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post Nov 12 2023, 07:34 AM, updated 3y ago

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Is there anybody who has delivered a pre-term baby at UMSC/PPUM and was placed in the NICU? Looking for more recent experiences this year if possible. Some key queries:

1) Cost per day
2) What's included/not included
3) Standard of care in the NICU
4) Occupancy rates
5) Any risks to be aware of


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post Nov 14 2023, 04:55 PM

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many weeks preterm? need full incubation?

hope the little one doing well...

although not delivered in USMC, my spouse delivered 27w premie..


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post Nov 14 2023, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 12 2023, 07:34 AM)
Is there anybody who has delivered a pre-term baby at UMSC/PPUM and was placed in the NICU? Looking for more recent experiences this year if possible. Some key queries:

1) Cost per day
2) What's included/not included
3) Standard of care in the NICU
4) Occupancy rates
5) Any risks to be aware of
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this 2 consider gov or semi gov?


my son enter Selayang hospital NICU, damage:
NICU charges = RM1 registration
blood test = RM48


that all.

including mum stay and meal for 3D2N inside NICU.
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post Nov 14 2023, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(seather @ Nov 14 2023, 04:55 PM)
many weeks preterm? need full incubation?

hope the little one doing well...

although not delivered in USMC, my spouse delivered 27w premie..
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How long ago was this? Mind sharing what complications were there and how much NICU costs were? All info appreciated.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Nov 14 2023, 05:00 PM)
this 2 consider gov or semi gov?
my son enter Selayang hospital NICU, damage:
NICU charges = RM1 registration
blood test = RM48
that all.

including mum stay and meal for 3D2N inside NICU.
Semi Gov. NICU for how many weeks? What complications?
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post Nov 14 2023, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 14 2023, 05:55 PM)
Semi Gov. NICU for how many weeks? What complications?
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mine 3D2N only,

yellow problem.


stun when see the bill, RM1 + MR48.



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post Nov 14 2023, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Nov 14 2023, 06:00 PM)
mine 3D2N only,

yellow problem.
stun when see the bill, RM1 + MR48.
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Jaundice. Very minor. Is it preterm birth? how many weeks preterm?
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post Nov 15 2023, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 14 2023, 05:53 PM)
How long ago was this? Mind sharing what complications were there and how much NICU costs were? All info appreciated.
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4 years already.. at the start of MCO tongue.gif

at a private hospital NICU...

2.5 months for my dotter, 3 months for my boy

parents get 24hrs visiting hours.. no limit on how long can stay..

always got 1 nurse monitoring my twins round the clock.. doctor visit once daily at least..

we had to bring clothes, diapers, wet wipes, milk powder/breast milk and milk bottle..
(hospital can provide those but expensive so nurse ask us bring our own)

complications during NICU stay? premie can stop breathing suddenly.. so need to put in incubator and eventually breathing aid

doctor goal b4 discharging is two weeks no issues with the bb..

b4 discharge, mum will stay in hospital for 3 nites so nurse can train mum how to take care

total cost~ RM210K
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QUOTE(seather @ Nov 15 2023, 02:44 PM)
4 years already.. at the start of MCO tongue.gif

at a private hospital NICU...

2.5 months for my dotter, 3 months for my boy

parents get 24hrs visiting hours.. no limit on how long can stay..

always got 1 nurse monitoring my twins round the clock.. doctor visit once daily at least..

we had to bring clothes, diapers, wet wipes, milk powder/breast milk and milk bottle..
(hospital can provide those but expensive so nurse ask us bring our own)

complications during NICU stay? premie can stop breathing suddenly.. so need to put in incubator and eventually breathing aid

doctor goal b4 discharging is two weeks no issues with the bb..

b4 discharge, mum will stay in hospital for 3 nites so nurse can train mum how to take care

total cost~ RM210K
The total cost of RM210K was for 2 kids and each stayed in NICU for 2.5-3 months?

Whats the name of the hospital? Im looking at Pantai Bangsar. Delivery expected to be next week. 35 weeks gestation.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 15 2023, 04:50 PM)
The total cost of RM210K was for 2 kids and each stayed in NICU for 2.5-3 months?

Whats the name of the hospital? Im looking at Pantai Bangsar. Delivery expected to be next week. 35 weeks gestation.
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yes... total bill for both..

mine is private hospital in penang...

35 weeks? no biggie.. sud be out fast in a week if no complications...

doctor sud be able to advise u..

my fren's 25 weeks premie twins also doing well now.. 3 years old...
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post Nov 17 2023, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(seather @ Nov 16 2023, 06:35 AM)
yes... total bill for both..

mine is private hospital in penang...

35 weeks? no biggie.. sud be out fast in a week if no complications...

doctor sud be able to advise u..

my fren's 25 weeks premie twins also doing well now.. 3 years old...
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Thanks very much. May i know what complications you faced since your children were in the NICU or 2.5-3 months?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 17 2023, 12:09 AM)
Thanks very much. May i know what complications you faced since your children were in the NICU or 2.5-3 months?
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two main complications for all premies that is so early: weight n lung development..

when born both were around 1kg in weight

first three weeks they were in the incubator.. tubes n needles going in and out everywhere..

one of them had some reflux issue which can cause milk to go into the lungs.. that is resolved with medication...

that 10 weeks in NICU was to see them grow into a normal weight and develop their lungs..

when discharge both where around 2.8kgs... basically normal weight at week 40...

ur baby at 35weeks sud be no issue..

give birth already?
if not, ask ur wife to not be so nervous and rest more.. keep the baby in the womb as long as possible. that is the best place for a BB to grow smile.gif

if can hit 37 weeks, basically normal birth...

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QUOTE(seather @ Nov 17 2023, 12:26 PM)
two main complications for all premies that is so early: weight n lung development..

when born both were around 1kg in weight

first three weeks they were in the incubator.. tubes n needles going in and out everywhere..

one of them had some reflux issue which can cause milk to go into the lungs.. that is resolved with medication...

that 10 weeks in NICU was to see them grow into a normal weight and develop their lungs..

when discharge both where around 2.8kgs... basically normal weight at week 40...

ur baby at 35weeks sud be no issue..

give birth already?
if not, ask ur wife to not be so nervous and rest more.. keep the baby in the womb as long as possible. that is the best place for a BB to grow smile.gif

if can hit 37 weeks, basically normal birth...
Week 35 now. Weight 1.9kg. Yes target is to reach 37 weeks and hopefully 2.3kg if possible. If 37 weeks and 2.5kg then great. May not need NICU.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 17 2023, 10:45 PM)
Week 35 now. Weight 1.9kg. Yes target is to reach 37 weeks and hopefully 2.3kg if possible. If 37 weeks and 2.5kg then great. May not need NICU.
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piece of advise..

if your BB needs to be in NICU after mum has been discharged, and if mum is going to a confinement center, please visit and support mum a lot when the BB is not there with her.. for most mums it can be depressing for mum when all other mums there are nursing their BB while she is just alone.

post natal depression is no joke yoo..


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post Nov 20 2023, 06:13 PM

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Not the recent one but hopes can help. Paid PPUM in May 2017, RM 2,700+ for 24 days NICU + natural delivery RM700+, total around RM3,500. Basically nothing is free in PPUM unlike other government hospital, just it is cheaper than private. Occupancy rate was high that time as many cases. PPUM is like HUKM, different funding which is from MOHE, hence, fees are higher than other government hospitals under funding from MOH. Still much more affordable as compare to private one.
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Hello,

Can I ask how to get started with the check-up at PPUM please? Do I just walk in? I am under exceptional case and need to switch to semi-private.

Hope someone can give me some advice. Thank you.

QUOTE(dannychen @ Nov 20 2023, 06:13 PM)
Not the recent one but hopes can help. Paid PPUM in May 2017, RM 2,700+ for 24 days NICU + natural delivery RM700+, total around RM3,500. Basically nothing is free in PPUM unlike other government hospital, just it is cheaper than private. Occupancy rate was high that time as many cases. PPUM is like HUKM, different funding which is from MOHE, hence, fees are higher than other government hospitals under funding from MOH. Still much more affordable as compare to private one.
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QUOTE(joe_toh87 @ Jan 8 2024, 01:59 PM)
Hello,

Can I ask how to get started with the check-up at PPUM please? Do I just walk in? I am under exceptional case and need to switch to semi-private.

Hope someone can give me some advice. Thank you.
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perhaps you need a referral letter from other hospital to PPUM. then you can walk in, pass the letter and get first appointment from them. those born in PPUM will get appointments after discharged from NICU.
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Thank you for the helpful info.

QUOTE(dannychen @ Jan 8 2024, 05:04 PM)
perhaps you need a referral letter from other hospital to PPUM. then you can walk in, pass the letter and get first appointment from them. those born in PPUM will get appointments after discharged from NICU.
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My SIL delivered in HKL due to complication when bb at close to 28W. Bb born weight 1.1kg. Stay in NICU for 3-4months and damage was RM500.

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QUOTE(seather @ Nov 15 2023, 02:44 PM)
4 years already.. at the start of MCO tongue.gif

at a private hospital NICU...

2.5 months for my dotter, 3 months for my boy

parents get 24hrs visiting hours.. no limit on how long can stay..

always got 1 nurse monitoring my twins round the clock.. doctor visit once daily at least..

we had to bring clothes, diapers, wet wipes, milk powder/breast milk and milk bottle..
(hospital can provide those but expensive so nurse ask us bring our own)

complications during NICU stay? premie can stop breathing suddenly.. so need to put in incubator and eventually breathing aid

doctor goal b4 discharging is two weeks no issues with the bb..

b4 discharge, mum will stay in hospital for 3 nites so nurse can train mum how to take care

total cost~ RM210K
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How's your twins doing now?
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post Jan 24 2024, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(henry1118 @ Jan 24 2024, 10:50 AM)
How's your twins doing now?
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both 4 years olds.. and doing fine..

but i think their respiratory organs r weaker.. always get flu and cough..
becoz these organs r the last to develop in the womb

doctor say lets wait until they are 7++ years old.. sud be able to see some improvement.

of coz it is not so serious until they cant handle physical activities..
currently they can run around the playground for 2 hours with no issue




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QUOTE(seather @ Jan 24 2024, 11:51 AM)
both 4 years olds.. and doing fine..

but i think their respiratory organs r weaker.. always get flu and cough..
becoz these organs r the last to develop in the womb

doctor say lets wait until they are 7++ years old.. sud be able to see some improvement.

of coz it is not so serious until they cant handle physical activities..
currently they can run around the playground for 2 hours with no issue
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They probably have better stamina than you bro. Haha..

 

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