I wanna buy car soon, which one is better?

topup sikit beli Proton S70

Saga anytime

https://www.carbase.my/car-comparison?id=Uk...rQq8,TvJvXUTqvm,

Bezza is so good. Bought 1 for my staff . Superb car for that price range. Saga? Avoid it like a plague

Definitely Saga

Rented a Facelift Saga 3D2N in Langkawi ago, the fuel consumption is RM12 higher compared with City GN2 for total of 250km town driving

But, the handling and suspension setup is superior than City, almost like a BMW although it is a Torsion beam rear set up

in the end, it all depend on user's pocket depth, purpose and service centre preference.
given the option, i choose saga over bezza any day for its comfort, handling and pirce tag

Top up a big get civic and bj from awek.

proton S70

facelift saga handling is kinda less sharper and the suspension is softer than the pre facelift tbh

honda city handling kenot lah, floating wei

those fellas who approved the seats of bezza should kana whipped in the public

knn betul

Why?

fixed that for you.

Because heavy car drive nicer

Perodua is overrated. I own a saga and did not regret it.

Because you like pay more petrol for heavier car

>topkek treblecase
Nearlee

I suggest get persona more power more comfort fr additional rm10k

Saga is the better car to drive
Bezza is slightly more fuel efficient

be sure to test drive both of them

bezza 1.3
- higher resale value, extremely fuel saving, roomier, bigger boot opening

saga
- best comfort ride handling, cheaper, better design

especially the vertical rear passenger seat, they sacrifice comfort for boot space. not that everyday user fiil up the trunk with big ash bags

Bezza. Resell value deng high.

rent both car and do test drive kaw kaw.

i rent saga during my kk trip. i dont like saga interior. lack of lighting eg emergency button.

For me both fugly.

But value for money go for bezza.
If u think like as long can drive from point A to point B, go for bezza.
Toyota dna.
Spare part easy and everywhere.
Maintenance easy.
Fuel efficient.
High resale value. After 5 years u might wanna change car, easier to sell off.
So far this year, bezza is best selling sedan in Msia with 65,158 unit sold as for Q3 of 2023. By year end might overtake king maibi sales. Hail new king bezza! Lulz!

Saga? No komen. Lulz!

it's not even a comparison.
saga if u wan a cheap working car.
bezza if u wanna die young.

This post has been edited by unknown_2: Nov 3 2023, 02:30 AM

this whole "toyota DNA" is the stupidest lie P2 owner tell themself.
bezza is 1 of the shittiest car put there.
it's uncomfortable to sit in, handles like shit, & made of tin milo.
this car is for people who doesn't value their life.

get saga if u value your life and u dun want to visit chiro every few months

bezza is soft at the wrong spot (chassis) and hard at the wrong spot also (seats)

What is doe young?

What is chiro?

chiropractic, bone massage

Bezza chassis body is soft as tin milo?

This is very wrong advice. Saga can only achieve 4 stars ASEAN NCAP, Bezza is 5 stars. Scientifically and factually speaking Bezza is safer than Saga. That's only crash test, not even counting ADAS system which Saga and Persona dont have.

sexysarah aka kevin the kok sucker must be driving a bezza daily to know of its “superb” quality. His other ride is of coz a classic 1982 BMW 3 series.

I drove a bezza x at langkawi last time.

I was honestly impressed. The boot space are damn big. The acceleration are so so . but its decent and comfortable and no frills for going around town. Jimat minyak too.

handling is not as bad as people make it to be. ppl say its a tin kosong, but you can choose to drive responsibly and avoid accidents . This car is not made for racing one.

If I was given a choice, I would choose the bezza instead. Saga, will have problem will low RV and aftersales in the future. However waiting for bezza now, good luck man. I heard its 5-6 months. Even or carsome/mytukar, most are purchase pending. Get the X enuf ya, dont need get AV, as ppl are avoiding the stop start idle function

This post has been edited by MegaCanonF: Nov 3 2023, 08:16 AM

Well I have 2 friends who recently made a purchase of both the cars. Saga Premium S (highest spec) and Bezza X (2nd highest spec).

If you ask my honest opinion, I would definitely without a doubt take the Saga. Please don't bother too much about resale value. The only pros that Bezza have is fuel saving.

Saga the interior is much more premium and the body feels solid. I noticed this hugely when I was closing the door after sitting inside and also after closing the door once out of the car. Bezza definitely feels cheap.

Secondly, another pro is that the boot space is bigger in Bezza but it doesn't make much of a real life difference.

Saga handling and drive is way better than Bezza. I would not risk my life with Bezza just because of fuel and boot space.

To be fair I am a toyota owner. So definitely not being biased with my views at all. The rest I leave it to your best judgement. 1 sure way would be to rent both the cars for a day (socar) and figure out which one suites you the most.

What was spread back then was Bezza is a product of value engineering. Which means optimization of the maximum allowable safety factors before production. Not surprised about such claims above after seeing and sitting in that car.

There are reasons why Perodua are associated with coffins you know.

go testdrive both.

saga - high fuel consumption - heavier - sturdier when cornering - smaller boot space - more comfortable seats - cheaper
bezza - lower fuel consumption - lighter by 140kg - floating - bigger boot space - flat straight seats - more expensive

Bezza only redeeming point is RV, but u beli car to use or to sell? lmao

drive safely also no use, 1 mabuk cb langgar u, also gone case

This post has been edited by General_Nic: Nov 3 2023, 11:18 AM

why not take a look on axia if u want a cheap car?

All I know that Bezza got nicknamed Sampan..

Driving alone most of the time Bezza ok lah

If u have passenger especially at rear, better take Saga, don't torture them with the upright seating

if you are car enthusiast choose saga. if not hust choose bezaa save fuel

really tegak like F

I think many of us naik Grab tau how torturing to sit at the back

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Nov 3 2023, 12:16 PM

well u can trust asean ncap as much as u can but each to their own

perodua's adas is as good as nothing

if u don't need that boot space better consider on new alza or top up abit new myvi

Well it actually not a lie. Basically Perodua is a Daihatsu for Malaysia market.
Daihatsu wholly owned subsidiary of Toyota Motor Corporation.
Toyota, Daihatsu and Perodua car all using Toyota engine.
Perodua rebadged from Daihatsu and Toyota car, except for 3rd gen maibi and bezza which designed in house by local designer.
Since kancil until today all Perodua engine are Toyota/Daihatsu engine. So basically Toyota DNA very strong in Perodua.

Same like Axia rear seat. Lulz!

Bezza actually base on Axia platform.

the day when people are finally saying proton is better than perodua. nice.

true that

but cant they make a better one than this?

Bezza is underpower car, safety unknown (maybe part of toyota safety scam?) and the rest is all the same for a cheap car.

It's all Aisin engine and some other car brand also used same engine model.

Ya they should make it better for bezza since bezza is sedan and hv more space at the back.
Honestly bezza hv quite big boot space.
Axia then no much space at back. Tats y rear seat shit straight.

This post has been edited by Revoz: Nov 3 2023, 02:02 PM

Proton. Safer sturdier, petro consumption slightly higher due to heavier/saver car body. Handling everyone who have driven both will tell yiu proton is better.

How now Perodua under Sime Darby? N tiyira is slatted to come in sell its cars directly??

Aisin owned by Toyota Corporation.

Both Toyota and Aisin founded by Kiichiro Toyoda.

Saga not a cheap car?

Not sure how it gonna be under Sime Darby. They bought 61% stake right?

dont you know Bezza comes from Axia backbone / chasis?
is the same thing underneath, perodua just added a boot to the old Axiacar.

not only upright, Bezza is also very cramp. it is narrower than most of the cars, Saga is the side width.

saga with magma engine

if u drive within KL and seldom oustation, Bezza is ok, for long term why?

it;s all about the after sales service and issue. Just go to the service centre Managed directly by P2 and if can avoid the authorize centre.

Pton, if you want comfort, the suspension is better. for some reason p2 use lousy suspension, which makes the ride worse but you might need to be prepared mentally with the not great after sales service which has been shared numeraous time over socmed


but in terms of engine efficiently, Daihatsu engine in P2 is pretty value buy.

This post has been edited by shadowglow: Nov 3 2023, 02:27 PM

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This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Nov 3 2023, 02:31 PM

Actually if you take grab before, you already know the answer.

If you get Bezza VS you get Saga, which one u feel more relieve? To me Bezza is the least I wish to see especially a trip to KLIA from KL.
1st gen Myvi and Bezza is the least I want to get from grab for long distance drive.

I think many of us here know about it from Grab lah where else hahaha

imagine from kl to klia in bezza

x murah pun, starting ady 40k

Both no for me persona still ok.. but minimum s70

This is assuming Toyota is not direcfly setting up sales office in MY.

For safety, Saga is better

See how frugal you are... I prefer driving exp rather than fuel saving.

Other than fuel saving, don't see Bezza winning anywhere else .

Bezza win in engine reliability, remember its a toyota
parts are cheaper

Saga win in safety, size, comfort but its an old school car
and makan more petrol

Fair enough. However given that you're buying lower bracket cars, Saga's parts are only expensive when compared to Perodua cars, it's still relatively cheap overall. Also value-for-performance it makes sense.

reliable+good after sales= p2
good handling and more stable+ hit/miss after sales=p1

No wonder some engine work like crapped.

even if it has toyota DNA, doesn't mean it's good DNA.
your poop also got your DNA, doesn't make it a good nutritional food.
the whole, "it has toyota DNA, so it's good" mentality is so outdated.
bezza is 1 of the worst car out there cuz it's just so dangerous.

good FC? questionable.
if u driving alone, sure. but if i hav any load, FC goes out the window, cuz that's how it is wit small underpowered engine.
& part of the reason it achieve good FC on paper is the use skinny "fuel saving" tire that has less grip.
couple that wit narrow & tall body, it's a recipe for accident.

it's no coincidence that a lot of accident involves P2.
handling & grip.

What is P1 ?

You want tongkang handling, go buy bezza.

You want fuel guzzler, go buy saga.

Regardless of what you heard about Proton’s VVT engine (not Geely’s)

It is tried and tested over decade of minor improvements starting with Campro

Proton’s engine can last 200,000km easily with fairly minor maintenance (timing belt) and repair (oil leak) while you can expect sensor faulty in Bezza’s around 50,000km

If you decided on Proton Saga, my advise for you is to avoid manual transmission model

This post has been edited by h0riz0nLine: Nov 4 2023, 08:34 PM

Why avoid manual transmission? I thought manual is always more reliable?

Ya why avoid manual transmission?

Susceptible with clutch pump leak

Which is troublesome because it’s located inside gearbox

2023 buyers say it's Bezza. The new King.

Damn, vios is not in list. This is new to me

Probably just top 15, they were top last year.

How about bj from amoi, need drive what car?

Good enuff for most of people worldwide for sure. Bad dna is those lemon unit. Every car brand have lemon unit for sure.
If not, Toyota wouldnt be the best seller car in the world.
Bezza so far best seller sedan for 2023. Maibi also lose already.
Different people different view on every car.
Me myself oso dun like bezza cos fugly design. Saga oso fugly for me.
Just tat i dun deny the fact tat is already very clear.

I sometimes use Grab if malas drive. Whenever I ride Bezza, always feel like vomiting although only a short 14 km journey from my home in KL to my office in Damansara. Not sure why even if the driver drive it slowly. Saga okay acceptable.

bezza grab = all bush longgar
can hear suspension
proton better but drink more oil

proton comfort > bezza

This post has been edited by and85rew: Nov 5 2023, 09:00 PM

Saga actually can get 5 star ASEAN NCAP but simply cannot because P1 so kedekut.

1. P1 doesn't equip all variant with seat belt reminder (SBR) for front passenger (compulsory for 5 star)
2. P1 sent the test unit with the non ESC spec (compulsory for 5 star)

If they retest with this 2 spec included, surely can get 5 star
And I think P2 mis advertised their Bezza for 5 star which only AV variant get 5 star
You can google at ASEAN NCAP web and see Bezza got 5 star & 4 star rating (this one no SBR for Fr passenger & ESC)

This post has been edited by nazmiesukasuki: Nov 7 2023, 11:00 PM

How about spare parts available for Saga MC2. No problems kan? What are the common problems for Saga after 3-5 years?

U need to change ur mindset la. Of course Toyota is legendary when it comes to reliability and fuel efficiency.

Thats why ppl say it has toyota DNA so of course its good. Comparing that with ur own shit is really stupid and childish. Doesnt even make sense . U must be one of those failures in school.

Bezza is fuel efficient, easy to drive, reliable and thats what most buyers at that price range want. They are not looking for a superb handling car, they are not looking for a "harder body" car. Remember, u are not racing on the roads everyday. They need a reliable car to go from A to B . And thats why Bezza is the best seller.

Its just that good. Whoever buys Saga in 2023 is really retarded. Its an unreliable car using cheap China technology and it drinks fuel like a 1.8L car. After 1 year, the whole car is rattling everywhere like its gng to break apart

and yet according to my cousin repair shop, saga is the most frequent customer

proton can't be more reliable than those japs car,the amount of engineering went behind is more than our local engineering, it not even on par

Off topic: I have been driving a bezza (2020 advance model) for quite some time, but only recently when I was driving on a slope, I realized when I let go the brake, the car was falling backwards.
All this while, Perodua mentioned the car has "hill-start assist" which prevents this from happening, so what's the deal? Is this how the car is supposed to act? Or is the feature not working on my car?

This post has been edited by Bananahead: Nov 8 2023, 08:42 AM

Of course frequent

It’s cheap so many people bought it

Cheap to maintain, abundance of spare parts on market.

Not denying the reliability of the jap cars

But if you got 40,000 to spare for new car

Choose proton

it's cheap so many bought it? more than p2? last i checked saga not even in top 3 listing

if u got 40k for segment A or B, most likely u gonna upgrade to x50 or vios in the future

please choose rv and reliable over these 5 to 7 years

if u won't upgrade and use it forever, then can use saga