QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 9 2023, 10:38 PM)
with RSVP only. Thats why I crop it out.Proton S70 discussion, Budget Volvo sedan
Proton S70 discussion, Budget Volvo sedan
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 9 2023, 10:55 PM) AmOne Auto Sdn BhdLot 13698 , Jalan Bridge 21/64, Jalan PJU 6a/3a, Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara, 47400 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia. Regal Motors Holdings Sdn Bhd 7B, Jalan Bersatu 13/4, Section 13, 46200 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia. Authorized Proton 4S Dealer 23, Jalan 51A/223, 46100 Petaling Jaya, Malaysia AIMAN MOTOR SDN. BHD. Near Asia Jaya LRT
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QUOTE(ahter @ Nov 9 2023, 11:23 PM) AmOne Auto Sdn BhdLot 13698 , Jalan Bridge 21/64, Jalan PJU 6a/3a, Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara, 47400 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia. Regal Motors Holdings Sdn Bhd 7B, Jalan Bersatu 13/4, Section 13, 46200 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia. Authorized Proton 4S Dealer 23, Jalan 51A/223, 46100 Petaling Jaya, Malaysia AIMAN MOTOR SDN. BHD. Near Asia Jaya LRT
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Nov 11 2023, 03:30 PM
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XJP assistant visit Proton factory
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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 11 2023, 03:30 PM) XJP assistant visit Proton factory ![]() fuuuh Geely big boss also come ![]() ![]() this proton workers not look like local, means Geely send assembly worker from China to Tg. Malim? ![]() https://www.forbes.com/profile/eric-li/?sh=7a55887a2c1c
Chinese Automaker Geely Ups Its Stake in U.K.'s Aston Martin The Chinese parent company to Volvo, Polestar, Lotus and others is now Aston Martin's third-largest shareholder. May 19, 2023 Geely doubles its stake in Aston Martin to 17% at a cost of £234 million ($291 million), giving it a non-executive seat on the board and extending its financial influence over the British sports car maker. The move makes the Chinese automaker the third-largest shareholder in Aston Martin, behind the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, which commands an 18% shareholding, and the Yew Tree Consortium, currently Aston Martin's largest shareholder at 21%. Geely’s stake places it ahead of Mercedes-Benz in the shareholding structure of Aston Martin. Geely purchased 42 million shares from the Lawrence Stroll-controlled Yew Tree Consortium and was issued 28 million new shares in the deal announced May 18. Stroll (pictured, below left), a Canadian billionaire businessman, is executive chairman of Aston Martin and owner of the Aston Martin F1 Team. Geely says the increased shareholding will provide Aston Martin with an additional £95 million ($159 million) in funding. As part of stipulations tied to the deal, Geely has agreed to acquire no more than 22% of Aston Martin before August 2024 unless it makes a formal offer that is endorsed by the Aston Martin board. The Chinese automaker can also increase its stake in the British luxury marque if a third party, not acting in the interests of Geely, announces a formal offer for Aston Martin. The Yew Tree Consortium has agreed not to buy or sell any ordinary shares in Aston Martin for the next 90 days and will not exceed a 25% stake in the company until August 2024. Revenue at Aston Martin grew 26% to £1.35 billion ($1.67 billion) last year, largely because of price increases. Its core average per-unit selling price in 2022 rose 18% to £177,000 ($219,400). The British company reported an adjusted operating loss of £118 million ($146.3 million) for the year ended Dec. 31, 2022. Known throughout its storied history for sports cars. Aston Martin’s best selling model today is the DBX SUV. -----------------------------‐-------------- In February 24, 2018, Geely Group acquired a 9.69% stake in Daimler AG, becoming its largest shareholder with nearly $9 billion. This rapid expansion under Li Shufu's leadership significantly increased his wealth, estimated at $110 billion in 2017 alongside his son Li Xingxing. Geely's high-profile moves and Li Shufu's visible role in the media spotlight have led to speculations about his family, especially regarding his wife, whose name was revealed in 2018. Li Shufu's ties with Xi Jinping, China's president, have also been subject to public scrutiny. Reports suggest that Xi had shown support for Geely during his tenure in Zhejiang, where Geely was the only car manufacturer, and during subsequent visits to car expos. The company's expansion overseas, notably the acquisition of Volvo Cars, took place during Xi's official visits abroad, further fueling speculation about high-level support for Geely despite the strict scrutiny of other Chinese conglomerates in overseas acquisitions. The alleged connections between Li Shufu and Xi Jinping, especially regarding the latter's supportive visits to Geely-related events or facilities, have sparked discussions about the company's resilience in overseas acquisitions, contrasting with the fate of other Chinese conglomerates like Anbang Group, HNA Group, and Wanda Group, which faced sell-offs and regulatory takeovers. After the arrival of Geely 4.0, the comprehensive implementation of the CMA platform became widespread, with models like the Geely Star Yue and Star Rui utilizing this platform. Consequently, the platform advantage once held by Lynk & Co faded away. Before this, Lynk & Co was positioned as a "budget Volvo," but with Geely making the Geely brand an even more budget-friendly version of Volvo, it led to internal competition between their own products. Proton now become "Budget Volvo"..... This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 11 2023, 05:37 PM |
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Nov 12 2023, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 11 2023, 05:27 PM) ![]() https://www.forbes.com/profile/eric-li/?sh=7a55887a2c1c
The Chinese parent company to Volvo, Polestar, Lotus and others is now Aston Martin's third-largest shareholder. May 19, 2023 Geely doubles its stake in Aston Martin to 17% at a cost of £234 million ($291 million), giving it a non-executive seat on the board and extending its financial influence over the British sports car maker. The move makes the Chinese automaker the third-largest shareholder in Aston Martin, behind the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, which commands an 18% shareholding, and the Yew Tree Consortium, currently Aston Martin's largest shareholder at 21%. Geely’s stake places it ahead of Mercedes-Benz in the shareholding structure of Aston Martin. Geely purchased 42 million shares from the Lawrence Stroll-controlled Yew Tree Consortium and was issued 28 million new shares in the deal announced May 18. Stroll (pictured, below left), a Canadian billionaire businessman, is executive chairman of Aston Martin and owner of the Aston Martin F1 Team. Geely says the increased shareholding will provide Aston Martin with an additional £95 million ($159 million) in funding. As part of stipulations tied to the deal, Geely has agreed to acquire no more than 22% of Aston Martin before August 2024 unless it makes a formal offer that is endorsed by the Aston Martin board. The Chinese automaker can also increase its stake in the British luxury marque if a third party, not acting in the interests of Geely, announces a formal offer for Aston Martin. The Yew Tree Consortium has agreed not to buy or sell any ordinary shares in Aston Martin for the next 90 days and will not exceed a 25% stake in the company until August 2024. Revenue at Aston Martin grew 26% to £1.35 billion ($1.67 billion) last year, largely because of price increases. Its core average per-unit selling price in 2022 rose 18% to £177,000 ($219,400). The British company reported an adjusted operating loss of £118 million ($146.3 million) for the year ended Dec. 31, 2022. Known throughout its storied history for sports cars. Aston Martin’s best selling model today is the DBX SUV. -----------------------------‐-------------- In February 24, 2018, Geely Group acquired a 9.69% stake in Daimler AG, becoming its largest shareholder with nearly $9 billion. This rapid expansion under Li Shufu's leadership significantly increased his wealth, estimated at $110 billion in 2017 alongside his son Li Xingxing. Geely's high-profile moves and Li Shufu's visible role in the media spotlight have led to speculations about his family, especially regarding his wife, whose name was revealed in 2018. Li Shufu's ties with Xi Jinping, China's president, have also been subject to public scrutiny. Reports suggest that Xi had shown support for Geely during his tenure in Zhejiang, where Geely was the only car manufacturer, and during subsequent visits to car expos. The company's expansion overseas, notably the acquisition of Volvo Cars, took place during Xi's official visits abroad, further fueling speculation about high-level support for Geely despite the strict scrutiny of other Chinese conglomerates in overseas acquisitions. The alleged connections between Li Shufu and Xi Jinping, especially regarding the latter's supportive visits to Geely-related events or facilities, have sparked discussions about the company's resilience in overseas acquisitions, contrasting with the fate of other Chinese conglomerates like Anbang Group, HNA Group, and Wanda Group, which faced sell-offs and regulatory takeovers. After the arrival of Geely 4.0, the comprehensive implementation of the CMA platform became widespread, with models like the Geely Star Yue and Star Rui utilizing this platform. Consequently, the platform advantage once held by Lynk & Co faded away. Before this, Lynk & Co was positioned as a "budget Volvo," but with Geely making the Geely brand an even more budget-friendly version of Volvo, it led to internal competition between their own products. Proton now become "Budget[B] Volvo"..... |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 12 2023, 03:35 PM) https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant Tanjong Malim,Perak This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 12 2023, 03:45 PM |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 03:44 PM) https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233 The 1.5 Turbo engines for x50 and x70 is manufactured in Malaysia? ImpressiveWow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant Tanjong Malim,Perak |
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QUOTE(lioncarlsberg @ Nov 12 2023, 04:01 PM) Proton S70 sales high chance will be good.The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue. But geely add on something to avoid. True for x70 and x90? This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 12 2023, 04:12 PM |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:11 PM) Proton S70 sales high chance will be good. Shame on those people. Always kecam proton 3 cylinder but its okay with perodua ativa and axia 3 cylindersThe news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue. But geely add on something to avoid. True for x70 and x90? I own X50 and i tested Ativa extensively from my family member Conclusion is for X50, the vibration inside is suppressed tremendously. My car already 2 years old. Still no problem with mounting. Hardly feel any vibration inside either at steering wheel or pedal Ativa meanwhile has poor insulation From inside, can feel vibration on the pedal quite bad. Steering wheel will judder from time to time So yeah. Proton 3 cylinder is better than perodua 3 cylinder |
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Nov 12 2023, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Nov 12 2023, 04:31 PM) Shame on those people. Always kecam proton 3 cylinder but its okay with perodua ativa and axia 3 cylinders hope s70 can overtake myviI own X50 and i tested Ativa extensively from my family member Conclusion is for X50, the vibration inside is suppressed tremendously. My car already 2 years old. Still no problem with mounting. Hardly feel any vibration inside either at steering wheel or pedal Ativa meanwhile has poor insulation From inside, can feel vibration on the pedal quite bad. Steering wheel will judder from time to time So yeah. Proton 3 cylinder is better than perodua 3 cylinder |
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Now we stuck with 1.5 3 cylinder. Malaysian lov it so much now all damn proton model from geely will use this damn engine that china cannot sell jblittleboy liked this post
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Nov 12 2023, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:11 PM) Proton S70 sales high chance will be good. Go Proton showroom test drive X50 yourself. Most X50 test drive unit should be at least 2-3 years old now. My experience is my CBU X70 mounting need change after 3-4 years only. When I test drive X50 can feel vibration in back seat.The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue. But geely add on something to avoid. True for x70 and x90? |
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Nov 12 2023, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 12 2023, 03:35 PM) We have Proton EV way before all this, Proton management didn't push for production. DCT? Already obsolete in consumer car when VW and Ford already moving away from DCT and Toyota Honda choose CVT. We were supposed to get Jatco CVT and TGDI engine built with McLaren engine supplier before Geely cancel the project, engine is already ready to go. Autonomous is no big deal at all la nowadays, even Perodua these days also got Level 2. Just ask supplier like Bosch to supply. |
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Nov 12 2023, 05:25 PM
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for this price range
just go buy Vios and peace of mind after that |
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:11 PM) Proton S70 sales high chance will be good. You wanna buy S70 is it ?The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue. But geely add on something to avoid. True for x70 and x90? Trust me, let the market decides on the first batch first. However , if you wanna buy the alternative Vios or City, go ahead , proven tested already. |
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QUOTE(jblittleboy @ Nov 12 2023, 05:33 PM) You wanna buy S70 is it ? The slogan 'Budget Volvo is now Proton' delineates the current branding. Trust me, let the market decides on the first batch first. However , if you wanna buy the alternative Vios or City, go ahead , proven tested already. My unwavering belief stands in the attainability of Proton's monthly sales target of 2000 units of the S70. This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 12 2023, 06:17 PM |
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 12 2023, 05:20 PM) We have Proton EV way before all this, Proton management didn't push for production. DCT? Already obsolete in consumer car when VW and Ford already moving away from DCT and Toyota Honda choose CVT. We were supposed to get Jatco CVT and TGDI engine built with McLaren engine supplier before Geely cancel the project, engine is already ready to go. Autonomous is no big deal at all la nowadays, even Perodua these days also got Level 2. Just ask supplier like Bosch to supply. DCT are expansive, hence many manufacturers just cut cost for production and choose CVT, especially the Japanese brand. VW and Ford take or use normal torque converter auto, they dont choose CVT. For Chinese car brand in general, the base spec use DCT wet clutch and more premium brand of them use 8-10 gear normal auto torque converter, which both are miles better than CVT. For TGDI proton plan, all only on paper or planning process, long process before production, cut cost, etc. Doubt we get the best of all considering only sell for how many units locally, bring ROI? Else we retain back the Campro for another decade. Autonomous is big thing, related to safety, plenty of testing, r&d. P2 take the Daihatsu model not asking Bosch as that. |
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