what car is that??

1.6 is C segment for the time also. Toyota Mazda Nissan all had 1.6, on lower spec la admittedly.

Alza?

ride and drive the Persona last batch Elegance last time, the Engine is massive weak points. low end torque is obvious. Another office car, Waja CPS on the other hand more animal at highway.

Saga is better than persona right?

Which segment doesn't matter. Not like it stated on your car grant.

Just be like delusional Mazda owners. All Mazda models are C and D segment only. Sometimes can be considered as luxury segment too.

Yup. The ride was really good, although not Waja level. Just the engine was really the weakest point.

No.

Mazda2 is a B segment.

Not really. Persona interior quality still better than Saga. Ride quality and handling also better. More quiet more comfortable.

Persona better than saga?

Of course. Price also higher than Saga.

But saga looks pretty than persona

What is persona have but saga do not have?


Just expensive few k right?

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Nov 8 2023, 10:37 PM

Malaysian company at the right hand can grow to World beater. Last time proton no bonus for so long. Now every year under geely confirm ada bonus.

Maybe those who work within hq itself. I can guarantee you suppliers and dealers are really not happy with Geely. I talked with 4S branch service manager before, they really really not happy, and not because they lazy la Geely force them to work hard la bla bla bla.

Current Saga based on very old platform from Proton Savvy. Savvy became BLM, became FLX, then became 2016 Saga, until now. Persona is much newer platform with HPF steel, more rigid means much higher safety and much better ride handling balance. This is why Persona 5 star but Saga only 4 star. Persona inside also higher quality plastic and quieter.

So directly under HQ and others 4S 3rd party staff have different benefits?

Who cares about the underlying platform when car manufacturers are the ones that classifies which car goes into which segment.

Also the Emgrand, the donor car for the S70 IS classified as a C-Segment car. Proton would have to follow suit as well.

T and H also have the same thing. All supplier and dealer not happy but they still survived till today. Thats what KPI is for. Cant have the same KPI every year. Need to push everyone to get a better result.

I explained already, not because of KPI lazy or what. Spare part issue was a big problem, SC facing customer everyday kena fark but HQ cannot give spare parts, SC in the middle. Even HQ I don't think is problem free, the few X series model Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.

I care because B segment engineering is just not C segment level fullstop. Proper C segment should have multilink suspension instead of torsion beam. And the interior quality of BMA platform compared to X70 proper C segment platform, you go showroom and compare X70 and X50 you will know. Platform is important.

can hear Mazda3 fanbois angry noises