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post Oct 20 2023, 10:46 AM, updated 3y ago

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It’s confirmed. The pictures from earlier this week showing what appears to toll gantries under construction at Gohtong Jaya are exactly what we think – we will soon have to pay toll to drive up to Genting Highlands.

The confirmation is from Sin Chew Daily, picked up by FMT. The Chinese language daily got the word from a spokesperson for the company that manages the road to Genting Highlands.

Lingkaran Cekap, which is 49.4% owned by Genting, will manage the toll operations, with drivers charged only when heading up the hill resort, and not on the way down – think Penang Bridge. The spokesperson could not confirm when toll collection will start, and the rate. However, she did dismiss the rumour of June 2024 and RM2.50 to RM3, telling Sin Chew that more discussions will be held before an official announcement is made.

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If you’re not aware, the road up to Genting Highlands was built by Genting in the mid-1960s and is a private road, which means that the company has the right to impose toll.

“Lingkaran Cekap is in charge of Genting’s roadworks, which include maintaining slopes, landslides, clearing fallen trees, trimming wild grass, maintaining sewage and streetlight systems and, most importantly, maintaining roads,” the spokesperson said, adding that the toll charges will take into account the maintenance work required and the costs involved.

Earlier this week, we shared pictures of a toll plaza under construction shared by Vincent Chow from the Eat Sleep Touge (Chat & Chill) Facebook group. The area in question looks like the tunnel inside the big Gohtong Jaya roundabout, going through to the Batang Kali side perhaps. Another image shows what looks like the side slip road going up to the Gohtong Jaya shop lots.

So, touge kaki, what say you? If you’re going to drive all the way up the hill for pleasure, and a cup of expensive coffee, what’s another few ringgit of toll, right? Or wrong?

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For the next trip to Genting...i plan to get a jackpot and stay there forever...

Oh coming down trip is free? O wai....
come down and stay at Bentong for retirement la...

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quite considerate already. lose all money still can go home

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good decision.
this will allow them to capture identities of all vehicles going up.

inb4 hill slopes brake failure while waiting in queue to pay toll. malaysians kan enggan bayar RM35 untuk sticker RFID - semua tuntut subsidi.
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genting know ...
when go up, all pocket fat fat...
that why go up got toll...

when go down all broke already...
that why no toll....
dont want throw salt on wound...
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inkambing longer traffic jam from gombak toll all the way to genting toll, fuck weekends and holidays
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post Oct 20 2023, 10:54 AM

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They really now "divide" Genting into 2 parts.... the "lower end" and "high end".

Those who want to stay and relax (makan and shopping) would be at the lower end area (Genting Permai & Gohtong Jaya + new developments around it). For those who want gambling and entertainment, they will take the "high end" part (Genting peak + Awana).

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Good la. Ex-rally driver got clearer roads to fly car now.
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post Oct 20 2023, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 20 2023, 10:54 AM)
They really now "divide" Genting into 2 parts.... the "lower end" and "high end".

Those who want to stay and relax (makan and shopping) would be at the lower end area (Genting Permai & Gohtong Jaya + new developments around it). For those who want gambling and entertainment, they will take the "high end" part (Genting peak + Awana).
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GPO is consider lower end? i prefer just go GPO and go cable car if necessary
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What’s the justification for this? To reduce number of vehicle up top?
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Oct 20 2023, 10:49 AM)
For the next trip to Genting...i plan to get a jackpot and stay there forever...

Oh coming down trip is free? O wai....
come down and stay at Bentong for retirement la...
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kena jackpot then run fast fast lo

if not long term semua donate back to them only laugh.gif
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macam mana mau content drift naik genting ni??
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 11:01 AM)
What’s the justification for this? To reduce number of vehicle up top?
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to prevent ys khong and gang come test car and endanger other driver ..owai
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can indirectly causes Cameron Highlands to be even more crowded
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why not enter free

but going out have to pay?
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Oct 20 2023, 10:49 AM)
For the next trip to Genting...i plan to get a jackpot and stay there forever...

Oh coming down trip is free? O wai....
come down and stay at Bentong for retirement la...
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Buy a property n stay there, dont come down. Happy city
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 20 2023, 10:54 AM)
They really now "divide" Genting into 2 parts.... the "lower end" and "high end".

Those who want to stay and relax (makan and shopping) would be at the lower end area (Genting Permai & Gohtong Jaya + new developments around it). For those who want gambling and entertainment, they will take the "high end" part (Genting peak + Awana).
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Morelikely Genting shareholder pressure them for new revenue. The pandemic bashed them very hard causing their cruiseline business suffer bankrupt and mountain of debts.
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Nice. Now have to pay toll and parking as well.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:03 AM)
to prevent ys khong and gang come test car and endanger other driver ..owai
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Well I hope they charge like RM50 or something like that coz a few bucks won’t prevent “makan angin” ppl from going up clogging the area up top.
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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Oct 20 2023, 10:56 AM)
Good la. Ex-rally driver got clearer roads to fly car now.
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So happen last night I see yskhong video
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Go GPO and cable car there need to pay or not?
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Genting must be getting broke. This is just extra revenue with no value add.

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Belum start judi sudah confirm lose a few ringgit dulu (toll + parking)

Anyway hope no toll charge for motorbike, although I don't ride as often as I used to
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 20 2023, 11:06 AM)
Go GPO and cable car there need to pay or not?
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Pay. Toll is located before these places
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 20 2023, 11:06 AM)
Go GPO and cable car there need to pay or not?
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If it’s at that roundabout at gohtong then to cable car no toll but yes for GPO. Macam suicide je charge to go GPO.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Oct 20 2023, 11:01 AM)
GPO is consider lower end? i prefer just go GPO and go cable car if necessary
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Looking at where the toll position is, I would say.... yes (to a certain extend). Both GPA and Awana (+ cable car) are after the "toll".

If not mistaken, there would be another "GPO" at the tail end of Genting Permai there to cater for those who don't want to shop at the "high end". But for those who still want go to GPO or Sky Avenue for shopping, there are free(?) shuttle busses to the cable car area.....
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QUOTE(ah78 @ Oct 20 2023, 10:46 AM)
<img src='https://<link removed>/image/2023/10/Genting-New-Toll-1.jpeg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

It’s confirmed. The pictures from earlier this week showing what appears to toll gantries under construction at Gohtong Jaya are exactly what we think – we will soon have to pay toll to drive up to Genting Highlands.

The confirmation is from Sin Chew Daily, picked up by FMT. The Chinese language daily got the word from a spokesperson for the company that manages the road to Genting Highlands.

Lingkaran Cekap, which is 49.4% owned by Genting, will manage the toll operations, with drivers charged only when heading up the hill resort, and not on the way down – think Penang Bridge. The spokesperson could not confirm when toll collection will start, and the rate. However, she did dismiss the rumour of June 2024 and RM2.50 to RM3, telling Sin Chew that more discussions will be held before an official announcement is made.

<img src='https://<link removed>/image/2023/10/Genting-New-Toll-2.jpeg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

If you’re not aware, the road up to Genting Highlands was built by Genting in the mid-1960s and is a private road, which means that the company has the right to impose toll.

“Lingkaran Cekap is in charge of Genting’s roadworks, which include maintaining slopes, landslides, clearing fallen trees, trimming wild grass, maintaining sewage and streetlight systems and, most importantly, maintaining roads,” the spokesperson said, adding that the toll charges will take into account the maintenance work required and the costs involved.

Earlier this week, we shared pictures of a toll plaza under construction shared by Vincent Chow from the Eat Sleep Touge (Chat & Chill) Facebook group. The area in question looks like the tunnel inside the big Gohtong Jaya roundabout, going through to the Batang Kali side perhaps. Another image shows what looks like the side slip road going up to the Gohtong Jaya shop lots.

So, touge kaki, what say you? If you’re going to drive all the way up the hill for pleasure, and a cup of expensive coffee, what’s another few ringgit of toll, right? Or wrong?

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is this move to curb the ppl going up and picnic for free at genting?

if got toll, i think the traffic will be less, maybe if u go up, most probably have some reason....
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 20 2023, 11:04 AM)
why not enter free

but going out have to pay?
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You can't - for the simple reason of safety. Putting a toll while going downhill is very dangerous - one vehicle "tak makan brake", and disaster happens. Just see why the Jelapang toll had to be relocated further down the road.

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So sekarang jalan jadi bapa dia punya. Lain kali charge udara pula. Sebab banyak orang pergi makan angin. Rezeki terhebat ni.
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yes, from the photos, the toll plaza is at the roundabout.

QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 20 2023, 11:06 AM)
Go GPO and cable car there need to pay or not?
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Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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why need to create unnecessary traffic jam? they are already collecting parking up hill.
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the taman roads were handed over to badaraya/majlis for maintenance. this one is maintained by Genting.

QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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No idea... But since it's private, it doesn't belong to government.

So, I don't see why they cannot charge pple money for using their road (whoever owns the road).

Btw, because it's private, they can even restrict who can use and who can't.
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2024 coming. Still got ppl go genting?
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?
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you are right

and ppl can choose not to go that private place, kasi boycott


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those just bought condo unit there must be shaking now. likewise for the developers
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:17 AM)
the taman roads were handed over to badaraya/majlis for maintenance. this one is maintained by Genting.
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Just an excuse to make more money. Had enough of this really.

If we are at Singapore level's economy and income, no issue. But we are not and far from it.
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I wonder who owns 50.6%?
Secondly its a private tolled road, liability to paid users ?

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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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Taman road are public road
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kek so everytime they want to earn more pocket money they just suck it up frm the rakyat and then spend it on their family and thats it?
the country just let this happen and happily crowdsource it so a certain people gets all the benefit?
isnt this basically findom? kek
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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Taman roads all belong to government lah, the developer build then handover to government even the street light, longkang, trees and playground is gov manage punya, it doesn't belong to you or the developer. Maintenance all u can complain to majlis, those ppl come cut grass is majlis punya. Genting is a different case, they own the bloody hill and the road is owned and maintained by themselves.

You got pay cukai taksiran to majlis right? That's for then to maintain the road and grass etc lo, even collect your rubbish.

Inb4 semua salah PH DAP

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previously the father time, everything is free
even drinks are provided in casino for free
now big boss loss money in other investment
started with parking need to pay
then no more free drinks in casino
share dividend also only small amount of 60 bucks
no more free room for share holders unlike his dad time
now even need to resort to tolled road going up
very greedy this son.
maybe desperate too, as HK also gulung tikar oledi
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they built and maintained the road but now got other developer come in and use the road. Do you know how much is the infra cost on the total development? they want to make money and not charity.

QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:21 AM)
Just an excuse to make more money. Had enough of this really.

If we are at Singapore level's economy and income, no issue. But we are not and far from it.
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I wonder if this new cost spur that apek has-been rally driver to drive even more crazy in order to get more ad revenue.
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
they built and maintained the road but now got other developer come in and use the road. Do you know how much is the infra cost on the total development? they want to make money and not charity.
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when you sell your land to developers, this is expected.
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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macam bodo
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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:24 AM)
Taman road are public road
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:27 AM)
Taman roads all belong to government lah, the developer build then handover to government even the street light, longkang, trees and playground is gov manage punya, it doesn't belong to you or the developer. Maintenance all u can complain to majlis, those ppl come cut grass is majlis punya. Genting is a different case, they own the bloody hill and the road is owned and maintained by themselves.

Inb4 semua salah PH DAP
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Got taman where the whole place is private, such as gated & guarded ones.
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
they built and maintained the road but now got other developer come in and use the road. Do you know how much is the infra cost on the total development? they want to make money and not charity.
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Excuses to suck the rakyat dry. Charge the developers then.

The road is free to use since Genting's inception.

Say what you want.
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you are too young to understand, read more.

QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:32 AM)
Excuses to suck the rakyat dry. Charge the developers then.

The road is free to use since Genting's inception.

Say what you want.
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 20 2023, 11:34 AM)
you are too young to understand, read more.
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:29 AM)
Got taman where the whole place is private, such as gated & guarded ones.
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Yes ur right, got 2 types,

Strata gated guarded
Non-strata gated and guarded

Strata one the road and all facility is owned by the joint management body (JMB) and everyone there is forced to pay "maintenance fee" and usually "sinking fund" to maintain the roads and other facility. This one majlis no care and you also don't own the road, your porch, your house facade also you don't own it u can't even paint or renovate the exterior of your house. But you paid your "toll" every month for them to maintain the road and facility.

The non-strata one is just the security guard, you pay "protection money" to the security guard/company for your security. However, the road drain lamps grass all still belongs to the majlis, infact to set up a gated guarded, need permission from majlis because it's majlis road and land. Infact, it's still a public road and they cannot stop people from entering, the guard is just there to well guard lol

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gorvement sudah approve , toll charges include sst..lol
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:37 AM

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facilities (including road) under strata title are not maintained by the council

QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:29 AM)
Got taman where the whole place is private, such as gated & guarded ones.
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you are too young to understand, read more.
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
previously the father time, everything is free
even drinks are provided in casino for free
now big boss loss money in other investment
started with parking need to pay
then no more free drinks in casino
share dividend also only small amount of 60 bucks
no more free room for share holders unlike his dad time
now even need to resort to tolled road going up
very greedy this son.
maybe desperate too, as HK also gulung tikar oledi
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Maybe just maybe if they lower the admission charges to their theme parks, lower the odds for games in their casinos or submit themselves to independent scrutiny to check on the “fairness” of all their gambling games (like in US via Gaming Commission), then perhaps their business could improve.
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At least can clear traffic at Karak a bit.. every weekend got some driver and rider main corner at Karak (and they exit at Genting)
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Lingkaran Cekap, which is 49.4% owned by Genting.
who own balance 50.6% ? which crony?
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:28 AM)
previously the father time, everything is free
even drinks are provided in casino for free
now big boss loss money in other investment
started with parking need to pay
then no more free drinks in casino
share dividend also only small amount of 60 bucks
no more free room for share holders unlike his dad time
now even need to resort to tolled road going up
very greedy this son.
maybe desperate too, as HK also gulung tikar oledi
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Well said. The son is super greedy and look at shorter term.
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post Oct 20 2023, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 11:01 AM)
What’s the justification for this? To reduce number of vehicle up top?
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to reduce visitors to the top. too many ppl dah
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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Uh yes you can. See the Taman Sea condo case.
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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Oct 20 2023, 11:57 AM)
to reduce visitors to the top. too many ppl dah
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To reduce certain types of visitor too. Those that just wanna go up jalan jalan. Take space and don't really spend much.

Those that go up to gamble or go theme park won't mind the tolls. Only those that like to go up to "feel cold" every week or so will think twice.
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Oct 20 2023, 11:05 AM)
Morelikely Genting shareholder pressure them for new revenue. The pandemic bashed them very hard causing their cruiseline business suffer bankrupt and mountain of debts.
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their cruise bankrupt already? sure or not?
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their cruise bankrupt already? sure or not?
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If I not mistaken Genting HongKong
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confirm this toll will cause jam all the way to before gombak toll and mrr2 during CNY
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 20 2023, 11:04 AM)
why not enter free

but going out have to pay?
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At least you are smarter. If they do not want to pay, they can stay and continue to gamble until no money to even go down. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:36 AM)
Yes ur right, got 2 types,

Strata gated guarded
Non-strata gated and guarded

Strata one the road and all facility is owned by the joint management body (JMB) and everyone there is forced to pay "maintenance fee" and usually "sinking fund" to maintain the roads and other facility. This one majlis no care and you also don't own the road, your porch, your house facade also you don't own it u can't even paint or renovate the exterior of your house. But you paid your "toll" every month for them to maintain the road and facility.

The non-strata one is just the security guard, you pay "protection money" to the security guard/company for your security. However, the road drain lamps grass all still belongs to the majlis, infact to set up a gated guarded, need permission from majlis because it's majlis road and land. Infact, it's still a public road and they cannot stop people from entering, the guard is just there to well guard lol
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About that last part..I know they can’t build permanent guard post but there is a section at SS8 near the former roundabout coming from Tmn Megan & now became the most confusing intersection ever….phew I hope you know where I’m talking about….where they built permanent guard structure & block off some access roads. In fact, there are many of these examples in PJ where they’ll just fence off a few sections where it used to be public access.

Can we lipot to majlis? Or songlap liao?
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 12:56 PM)
About that last part..I know they can’t build permanent guard post but there is a section at SS8 near the former roundabout coming from Tmn Megan & now became the most confusing intersection ever….phew I hope you know where I’m talking about….where they built permanent guard structure & block off some access roads. In fact, there are many of these examples in PJ where they’ll just fence off a few sections where it used to be public access.

Can we lipot to majlis? Or songlap liao?
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Yes can lipot can viral also. The guard house and boom gate can be erected and they cannot actually deny you from entering and they cannot take your ic or even ask for your ic.

Blocking public road is also illegal. Approval from majlis only allow it to be guarded and gated not walled they cannot block public roads. That is if they even have permission to be guarded.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 11:38 AM)
Maybe just maybe if they lower the admission charges to their theme parks, lower the odds for games in their casinos or submit themselves to independent scrutiny to check on the “fairness” of all their gambling games (like in US via Gaming Commission), then perhaps their business could improve.
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You have a strange definition of improving business..Reducing profit to increase revenue? LOL
Every company out there will gladly reduce their revenue if they can profit more. That's why all property developers nowadays only make "high end" properties.
Rich people don't become rich by giving money away.
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QUOTE(kotaro_minami @ Oct 20 2023, 12:49 PM)
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Dulu parking free....no more
Now impose toll

Next time everyone buy ticket to enter Genting.


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Inb4 genting flooded with visitors until april 2024

Then management decided to change the toll to pintu gerbang

Owaii
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If anything I believe more people will go there now.

Something about any news is good news
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blame youtuber, all use the road for test run car for YouTube
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QUOTE(PS8805 @ Oct 20 2023, 01:20 PM)
You have a strange definition of improving business..Reducing profit to increase revenue? LOL
Every company out there will gladly reduce their revenue if they can profit more. That's why all property developers nowadays only make "high end" properties.
Rich people don't become rich by giving money away.
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I’m not advocating gambling but I reckon they’re resorting to collecting tolls because business, especially on the gambling side, is not going well. There is a way to attract more ppl to gamble & that is using my suggestions…lower the odds (of coz the casino still has a huge upper hand) & make sure you’re not err..tilting the odds more to the house’s favour (for example using a non regulation dice).
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nice move creating traffic bottleneck
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QUOTE(ah78 @ Oct 20 2023, 10:46 AM)
<img src='https://<link removed>/image/2023/10/Genting-New-Toll-1.jpeg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

It’s confirmed. The pictures from earlier this week showing what appears to toll gantries under construction at Gohtong Jaya are exactly what we think – we will soon have to pay toll to drive up to Genting Highlands.

The confirmation is from Sin Chew Daily, picked up by FMT. The Chinese language daily got the word from a spokesperson for the company that manages the road to Genting Highlands.

Lingkaran Cekap, which is 49.4% owned by Genting, will manage the toll operations, with drivers charged only when heading up the hill resort, and not on the way down – think Penang Bridge. The spokesperson could not confirm when toll collection will start, and the rate. However, she did dismiss the rumour of June 2024 and RM2.50 to RM3, telling Sin Chew that more discussions will be held before an official announcement is made.

<img src='https://<link removed>/image/2023/10/Genting-New-Toll-2.jpeg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

If you’re not aware, the road up to Genting Highlands was built by Genting in the mid-1960s and is a private road, which means that the company has the right to impose toll.

“Lingkaran Cekap is in charge of Genting’s roadworks, which include maintaining slopes, landslides, clearing fallen trees, trimming wild grass, maintaining sewage and streetlight systems and, most importantly, maintaining roads,” the spokesperson said, adding that the toll charges will take into account the maintenance work required and the costs involved.

Earlier this week, we shared pictures of a toll plaza under construction shared by Vincent Chow from the Eat Sleep Touge (Chat & Chill) Facebook group. The area in question looks like the tunnel inside the big Gohtong Jaya roundabout, going through to the Batang Kali side perhaps. Another image shows what looks like the side slip road going up to the Gohtong Jaya shop lots.

So, touge kaki, what say you? If you’re going to drive all the way up the hill for pleasure, and a cup of expensive coffee, what’s another few ringgit of toll, right? Or wrong?

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Fark. Got tolls cannot do this already.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 12:56 PM)
About that last part..I know they can’t build permanent guard post but there is a section at SS8 near the former roundabout coming from Tmn Megan & now became the most confusing intersection ever….phew I hope you know where I’m talking about….where they built permanent guard structure & block off some access roads. In fact, there are many of these examples in PJ where they’ll just fence off a few sections where it used to be public access.

Can we lipot to majlis? Or songlap liao?
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I think it was done under communities approval for more secure living environments act like strata land function.

Yes you can report and remove it but then you'll lose safety measure which everybody going in and out will bypass security pos.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 20 2023, 02:14 PM)
I think it was done under communities approval for more secure living environments act like strata land function.

Yes you can report and remove it but then you'll lose safety measure which everybody going in and out will bypass security pos.
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That’s not the point isn’t it? Gazetted as public roads it remains as public roads. You can’t just block off some section because of “safety”. At least they don’t seem to care about safety because I’ve seen some where the fire truck will have difficulty getting in to save their asses. If everybody can just seal off access what’s stopping me from doing the same too perhaps by blocking half the road in front of my house for “security purpose”?
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Some hardcore gamblers go up every week.

They shall waive the toll or give special rate for Genting member.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 20 2023, 02:32 PM)
That’s not the point isn’t it? Gazetted as public roads it remains as public roads. You can’t just block off some section because of “safety”. At least they don’t seem to care about safety because I’ve seen some where the fire truck will have difficulty getting in to save their asses. If everybody can just seal off access what’s stopping me from doing the same too perhaps by blocking half the road in front of my house for “security purpose”?
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It's up to them. They dont have difficulty of letting fire truck get in then you kecoh what?

Report to authority la if you really thinks it annoying you, simple thing.
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QUOTE(la bella @ Oct 20 2023, 02:34 PM)
Some hardcore gamblers go up every week.

They shall waive the toll or give special rate for Genting member.
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Usually hardcore members are sitting bus.

My aunty just went back Genting for the 3rd time this month.

Previously got free bus go genting from my place, but now no lor.
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QUOTE(la bella @ Oct 20 2023, 02:34 PM)
Some hardcore gamblers go up every week.

They shall waive the toll or give special rate for Genting member.
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Unker Lim always appreciate those "go big or go home" players.

don't worry will get waive one lah.
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Wait...if next election PAS becomes State Govt then Genting gaming license revoked so the toll booth becomes white elephant?
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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feel free to understand taman road n road to genting highlands' road. see who maintain.
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those touge kaki and car reviewer can contribute to Genting road maintenance, since during and after MCO, the road at genting is really at horrible state
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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Taman roads are public roads. Once the development is completed and permits issued, the public portions (roads, playground, etc) are handed to the local council.
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Maybe they ask you join as member, then got cheaper toll rate or "entry fee"
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ada tongkat pun tak boleh gip back to locals.
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https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/10/...project-genting

Wanna bet, after applications and approval, a newco is set up joint venture with a "sharing" by various parties....
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Oct 20 2023, 03:13 PM)
Maybe they ask you join as member, then got cheaper toll rate or "entry fee"
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So platinum card no need to pay?
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 20 2023, 02:36 PM)
Usually hardcore members are sitting bus.

My aunty just went back Genting for the 3rd time this month.

Previously got free bus go genting from my place, but now no lor.
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From which area / state to genting?

Need to buy RM500 nnchips right?
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QUOTE(bsa12 @ Oct 20 2023, 11:53 AM)
Lingkaran Cekap, which is 49.4% owned by Genting.
who own balance 50.6% ? which crony?
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50.6% Should be owned by Tan Sri L.........
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QUOTE(OPT @ Oct 20 2023, 02:40 PM)
Wait...if next election PAS becomes State Govt then Genting gaming license revoked so the toll booth becomes white elephant?
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They already anticipated this by opening more casinos in different countries. Once they capture Selangor, it’s unlikely they’ll not revoke the license. Fewer people will go up to the hill and maintaining the theme park won’t be worthwhile in the long run as it’ll probably close down eventually. Selling the land will also be difficult since no one would buy it at the current market price, which largely depends on the gambling license. Without that license, the property’s value drops significantly.
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QUOTE(ykj @ Oct 20 2023, 11:14 AM)
Private road can build toll? Why not every taman, developers build a toll as well?

PH really made all these taxes, tolls & money making from rakyat mistakes. In the end all these coffers, hand given back to opposition
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But why would anyone want to build a toll in their Taman?


 

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