I really hope W11 won't take off for how bad its direction.
I have some experience since windows xp all the way to 11, fresh and bloated, low end to high end cpus.
The reason i hate W11 is how resource intensive it is.
When we speak of resource, yes, heavier system with more functions and all, size will be bigger and so on.
But for average user, W11 ram consumption seems to be ARTIFICIALLY HIGHER.
Even with minimal amount of background apps, that thing soars all the way to 3.6gb!!!!
That's too high for idle. JUST WHY?
If im running some apps, i know to close it. Maybe some background services due to some windows function/features i'm using, fine, acceptable. BUt what was it actually??
W10 have 1.8 gb on fresh install and fully updated. W11 to 3.6gb? What is it holding???
Let me give another example. I recently tried out W11 on a core 2 duo and core 2 quad system(Yes, not officially supported but there was a simple work around, it worked).
-W7 give same usability on both system. Ofc, games(sub 2012 games) run much better on core 2 quad but c2d was still able.
-W11. C2q was able to run the windows. BUT C2d, basically the system was struggling all the time. Even Youtube 1080p was on limit.
IN Other words, just to apgrr and run W11 alone(Just OS), it's like running a game with itself, kinda robs/consume resource equivalent to a games' performance?
Mybe sounds like exaggeration, but this is where we are, slowly, without being drastic, from W7 SP 2, W8, W10 and now W11.
So, even with a decent performance cpu with, lets say 6 cores,,some big chunk(my money) of its performance is going for just windows alone?????????
Why i feel this trend is really disturbing.
1. Because W11 caches a lot?? But what exactly is it even caching?
Back from Windows 7(with a decent 7200rpm hdd -not the recent crappy smr 5400rpm ones), i never experienced any slow down when lauching windows components. Everything is snappy as possible. If anything, W10/11 was noticeably slower on hdd's.
Is it windows store apps components?
Most of us don't use it and why don't let us choose to have running or not? Isn't this the idea of Computer customization? Not let smthing that we won't use be running all the time.
I'm not going into how even Windows 10 will run completely unwanted services in background, i.e; contact data, syncdata, and none of this can be easily disabled.
BUt i need none of it.
Or is it the new settings/personalization interface? BUt then there is also Control Panels(the legacy ones), to which most of useful settings are contained, except some basic functions.
So, running both of this, lots RAM,
HEnce a matter of optimization??
2. Most people will argue,,if "i have lots ram, lets windows use", but for what?? "to make the system fast as it pre-load stuff(or trashes)", sounds nice, but that's theory, this wasn't my experience at all.
The way i see it, caching is done on RAM, and as long as it is on RAM, CPU handles it and taxes performance wise.
Point is, cpus maximum stretch of performnce will alwys be better without this high amount of idle ram/cache.
"it's alright, i have i7/i9 and tonnes of ram".
But most of students laptops with i3/i5 series, there is adverse effect.
On other words, for budget laptops with slow cpu(low power envelope) and minimal amount of ram to run without any hiccups, the lappies that actually needs the performance help, high idle ram consumtion actually ends up not as perfectly smooth as it could be.
3. Youtube benchmark shows that W11 is just as fast??
Well, most of them will be runnning at least i9 or i7 with tonnes of ram. Not low end to mediacore system(many PEople use Windows cause cheap, not Expensive MAcs).
Second, those gaming benchmark won't change as they are as using high performance cpu which is not the bottleneck for the games YET.
BUt in the event of the cpu bottlenecking a game, system with lighter resource consumption will give extra juice,,, no doubt here,, unless poor optimized game.
Even if it doesn't now,, in future,, where the games starts to push limit of cpu performance,, any extra head room is welcomed, high performnce cpu or low.
We can use out system longer without upgrading,,, which means we won't have to spend money,
WHICH MEans it is bad for BUSINESS? errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Please don't say cause ram is cheap. Cheap or expensive, there is no need for such inefficiency or waste.
ANd to make it worse,, there is no clear cut or guide on what kind of safety measure a user needs.
vbs? tpm1.0 and 2.0? exploit prtctn? spectre meltdown?
secure boot? defender with cloud protection(this is nice actually)?
BUt why are there so many of it?
SO, day by day,, i start to think that, those Apple computer makes more sense of for average students. Its just smooth, very low power consumption and works just fine.
Or can i say pc is loosing customers because of their own greed??
Oct 25 2023, 10:23 AM
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