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BMW F30 - 330e 2017, Time to sell or maintain?
littlefire
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Oct 16 2023, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Oct 12 2023, 09:38 AM) I got a 320d from 2012 Spent about 40k with fix and upgrade since ownership It’s 12 year old and I got it second hand when it was 6 year old So far so good. Next change will be its absorber and sprints as it’s been 6 year since last change Overall since it’s fully paid I treat maintenance like it’s monthly repayment lol Only reason I keep it due to 220hp and 470nm of torque and it’s a diesel Also to add most of my cost are using original parts, and I don’t skimp on quality. For example when I change my absorber and sprint 6 year ago I changed to blistien b8 with eibach springs and my turbo kong also send to Tong turbo to fix and upgrade to hybrid design ( korek intake and exhaust as well use ball bearing for the fins). Rest are original bmw parts only. No china shit oem. Oh yah intercooler also using airtec So my maintenance cost is based on quality. It cheap part likely half of that kot Sad to break the truth, most aftermarket turbo spare parts are from China manufacturer especially those upgrade hybrid design. Dont believe, just search in Aliexpress. Dont assume few bad apples all are bad, some China suppliers does got quality parts also. I can say you pay what you get.
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Duckies
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Oct 16 2023, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 16 2023, 09:10 AM) Repair cost, after service, expertise available outside SC, dont take Volvo. Cause Volvo is more expensive to repair and harder to find outside expertise?
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ayamxxx
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Oct 16 2023, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 16 2023, 09:46 AM) Cause Volvo is more expensive to repair and harder to find outside expertise? lack of expertise other than SC. for BMW, Merz plenty of skillful outside, parts can even purchase online or at Parts shop and bring to workshop for installation. Volvo, most conti shop also reluctant and some don't even take it for problem issue for repair.
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Duckies
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Oct 16 2023, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 16 2023, 10:49 AM) lack of expertise other than SC. for BMW, Merz plenty of skillful outside, parts can even purchase online or at Parts shop and bring to workshop for installation. Volvo, most conti shop also reluctant and some don't even take it for problem issue for repair. Ah I see I see...Between BMW and Mercz which 1 more problem?
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TSSteven_aka_G
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Oct 16 2023, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 16 2023, 09:10 AM) Repair cost, after service, expertise available outside SC, dont take Volvo. This is good piece of info from the ground. I test drove the S60 over the weekend and honestly can say that the drive is immaculate. Cabin size, power, boot space are all better than my current drive. Only thing that I had to get used to was looking at a squared screen for the infotainment rather than a rectangular one. But if if one were to buy a Volvo now, they get 5 years warranty and free service no? After 5 years, one can sell off the car or hope to dear lord that the mechanics out there in the market have learnt to deal with Volvo cars?
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ayamxxx
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Oct 16 2023, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Steven_aka_G @ Oct 16 2023, 11:03 AM) This is good piece of info from the ground. I test drove the S60 over the weekend and honestly can say that the drive is immaculate. Cabin size, power, boot space are all better than my current drive. Only thing that I had to get used to was looking at a squared screen for the infotainment rather than a rectangular one. But if if one were to buy a Volvo now, they get 5 years warranty and free service no? After 5 years, one can sell off the car or hope to dear lord that the mechanics out there in the market have learnt to deal with Volvo cars? all Volvo models come with Hybrid system. Try follow their FB Group, have also issue that make the car need to sleep at SC for weeks. For peace of mind, better take car without any hybrid system. I know my friend fed up with BMW 530E cz keep pop up issue, he even said many similar cases as him at SC. Volvo with Hybrid, after warranty ended, sure hard to find brave buyer.
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TSSteven_aka_G
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Oct 16 2023, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 16 2023, 11:09 AM) all Volvo models come with Hybrid system. Try follow their FB Group, have also issue that make the car need to sleep at SC for weeks. For peace of mind, better take car without any hybrid system. I know my friend fed up with BMW 530E cz keep pop up issue, he even said many similar cases as him at SC. Volvo with Hybrid, after warranty ended, sure hard to find brave buyer. Not able to find the FB group you're talking about but will keep checking when I have time. Having said that, what are the good options out there at a RM300k range? Merc owners are telling me Merc got a lot of issues. BMW owners (and myself as a owner) experiences a lot of issues. Safe to say, just forgo conti cars then? Haha...
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cooldog_777
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Oct 16 2023, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 9 2023, 02:14 PM) oh! the RM32k only refers to the lump sum payment that i made in the 9th year. not the actual amount spent by me throughout the duration of my ownership figured that amount would give TS a better picture of the sum to be spent since TS bought it used 6 years after. i have lost track on how much i have actually spent maintaining it throughout the 9 years and i don't intend to, going to cry later  RM32k? wow. My 8 year old Toyota Camry Hybrid, daily driver, touch wood i haven't spend a single cent fixing it yet. the only time i spend money is the regular service and changed the 12v battery once. Wiper, brake pad all still haven't change before.
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shaniandras2787
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Oct 16 2023, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Oct 16 2023, 11:39 AM) RM32k? wow. My 8 year old Toyota Camry Hybrid, daily driver, touch wood i haven't spend a single cent fixing it yet. the only time i spend money is the regular service and changed the 12v battery once. Wiper, brake pad all still haven't change before. yeah  RM32k is a LOT of money to fork out but I tend to do my calculations as an aggregate sum so that makes it a little bit more palatable but I guess you get what you paid for, nothing i currently own drives like it despite its age. however an aging continental IS an aging continental and there is going to come a time where the costs of repairs will outweigh the benefits. so, i'm presently looking to offload it and then buy a Harrier as a replacement. I think i had my fair share of continental fun and now it's time to be sensible
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Duckies
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Oct 16 2023, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 16 2023, 11:59 AM) yeah  RM32k is a LOT of money to fork out but I tend to do my calculations as an aggregate sum so that makes it a little bit more palatable but I guess you get what you paid for, nothing i currently own drives like it despite its age. however an aging continental IS an aging continental and there is going to come a time where the costs of repairs will outweigh the benefits. so, i'm presently looking to offload it and then buy a Harrier as a replacement. I think i had my fair share of continental fun and now it's time to be sensible  I wonder newer cars like 2021 and above will have more problem or not
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shaniandras2787
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Oct 16 2023, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 16 2023, 12:52 PM) I wonder newer cars like 2021 and above will have more problem or not  as far as i know, car manufacturers are using more and more lightweight plastics for construction (on the facade of saving weight but in reality, cheaper costs) PLUS with the increase of more and more electronics, i can only infer that reliability will suffer. after all, it's the manufacturer's job to make sure that the car will "die" otherwise they cannot sell more cars.
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blindmutedeaf
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Oct 16 2023, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 16 2023, 01:03 PM) as far as i know, car manufacturers are using more and more lightweight plastics for construction (on the facade of saving weight but in reality, cheaper costs) PLUS with the increase of more and more electronics, i can only infer that reliability will suffer. after all, it's the manufacturer's job to make sure that the car will "die" otherwise they cannot sell more cars. yaya... all brand the same... plastic is getting everywhere
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cooldog_777
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Oct 16 2023, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 16 2023, 11:59 AM) yeah  RM32k is a LOT of money to fork out but I tend to do my calculations as an aggregate sum so that makes it a little bit more palatable but I guess you get what you paid for, nothing i currently own drives like it despite its age. however an aging continental IS an aging continental and there is going to come a time where the costs of repairs will outweigh the benefits. so, i'm presently looking to offload it and then buy a Harrier as a replacement. I think i had my fair share of continental fun and now it's time to be sensible  when i was small my dad own a 3 series coupe. when my dad passed away, my mom sold it off as she said too expensive to maintain. that time i don't really know what she means expensive to maintain. now i know. My niece just bought the new 5 series. wonder what will it cost to maintain it in future.
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shaniandras2787
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Oct 16 2023, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Oct 16 2023, 02:50 PM) when i was small my dad own a 3 series coupe. when my dad passed away, my mom sold it off as she said too expensive to maintain. that time i don't really know what she means expensive to maintain. now i know. My niece just bought the new 5 series. wonder what will it cost to maintain it in future. ouh... was it a 325Ci (E46)? P/S: I love this car too bits but can hardly find a decent one that is not modded to hell.Did she bought the 5series new, used or CPO? if it's new then she shouldn't have much to worry about (for 3 years at least) however if it's either used or CPO then she might be in for a trip. just curious, how old is your niece and what is her occupation? very rarely i heard for a women to buy a sedan of that size. most of them either go for the X3 or the 3series
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Duckies
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Oct 16 2023, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 16 2023, 01:03 PM) as far as i know, car manufacturers are using more and more lightweight plastics for construction (on the facade of saving weight but in reality, cheaper costs) PLUS with the increase of more and more electronics, i can only infer that reliability will suffer. after all, it's the manufacturer's job to make sure that the car will "die" otherwise they cannot sell more cars. That's sad...there goes my dream to get one..I don't wan to send my car frequently to workshop
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shaniandras2787
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Oct 16 2023, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 16 2023, 03:28 PM) That's sad...there goes my dream to get one..I don't wan to send my car frequently to workshop  hahaha owning a continental car is not all about going to workshops. this misconception is widespread because the owners have either zero knowledge in car maintenance or is too cheap to give the car the good parts. i have been in an argument with a club member who insist that his F10 can take the same lubricants/parts/service as his Camry and coincidentally, he is the one of the few that rants the most about the car giving him issues in summary, it's an experience. i have learned so much about cars just by attending to my F10 because my other Japanese makes gave me no problems at all to worry about as long as you have reliable car ready at your disposal, i say go ahead and live your dream.
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Duckies
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Oct 16 2023, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 16 2023, 03:51 PM) hahaha owning a continental car is not all about going to workshops. this misconception is widespread because the owners have either zero knowledge in car maintenance or is too cheap to give the car the good parts. i have been in an argument with a club member who insist that his F10 can take the same lubricants/parts/service as his Camry and coincidentally, he is the one of the few that rants the most about the car giving him issues in summary, it's an experience. i have learned so much about cars just by attending to my F10 because my other Japanese makes gave me no problems at all to worry about as long as you have reliable car ready at your disposal, i say go ahead and live your dream. I am driving Mazda CX-5 now for 5 years...so far no problem. Not sure if I want to switch that to a potential problematic conti hahaha  I do prepared a budget for the repair...but if the car is stuck at workshop for weeks or months...then it sucks
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shaniandras2787
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Oct 16 2023, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 16 2023, 03:52 PM) I am driving Mazda CX-5 now for 5 years...so far no problem. Not sure if I want to switch that to a potential problematic conti hahaha  I do prepared a budget for the repair...but if the car is stuck at workshop for weeks or months...then it sucks  Mazda is a very reliable car (as far as I am concern) so you pretty much have that aspect taken care of. you can start by scouting F30s (if BMW is your choice), have heard that the F30s are generally a very reliable car but do avoid the 1.5 litre engine. as far as time spent in workshops, you probably could get the car in and out in no more a week now. diagnostics have come a very long way whereby one plug into the OBD port can tell the mechanic exactly what is the problem. no more poking around in the engine bay and "assuming" what is wrong
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Duckies
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Oct 16 2023, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Oct 16 2023, 04:47 PM) Mazda is a very reliable car (as far as I am concern) so you pretty much have that aspect taken care of. you can start by scouting F30s (if BMW is your choice), have heard that the F30s are generally a very reliable car but do avoid the 1.5 litre engine. as far as time spent in workshops, you probably could get the car in and out in no more a week now. diagnostics have come a very long way whereby one plug into the OBD port can tell the mechanic exactly what is the problem. no more poking around in the engine bay and "assuming" what is wrong  Was planning to replace the current one with a conti SUV...so a bit redundant to get 2 SUVs hahaha
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shaniandras2787
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Oct 16 2023, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 16 2023, 04:59 PM) Was planning to replace the current one with a conti SUV...so a bit redundant to get 2 SUVs hahaha i see, i assume you bought your CX5 new from BERMAZ, yes? to me, it will always be a bad idea to replace a brand new car with a used car (no matter the brand). too risky. to own a continental car, one must always have a reliable Japanese make car on standby
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