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post Oct 9 2024, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jul 30 2024, 10:12 AM)
"12 Jul - 6.30 pm - Received the Email from TNB say NEM meter complete, and a bill for this month payment.

20 Jul - Received the Solaris welcome and claim form. - but IC number invalid, reported to TNB, they say is solar installer need to settle with TNB, then reported to Solar installer. Solar install say they have go to TNB HQ to deal with it."
My update.

21 Jun start installed solar panels and inverter.

27 Jun finally completed installation.

1 whole month of keep chasing installer and tnb till also fed up. ****pls note: the installer time line did mention up to 8 weeks for smart meter installation.

27 Jul - Installed smart meter - spoke to the TNB tech. they said their queue is so full and have so much to do, they are friendly and belanja them some softdrink. *** they completed the meter change in just 10 minutes.
***immediately turn on the solar power system.... now, a little relief.
30 Jul  - Just received the NEM completion letter.

looks like I will have to wait another 8 days for Solaris to welcome Us....before we can even fill out the rebate forms... I think this part is also very important as it seriously cut short the ROI, or in our case, enable us to buy Insurance for 3.5 years.
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Hi, you mentioned that you turned on the meter before the NEM Completion Letter, is this the same as the TNB Welcome letter? From some social media I read that turning on the system before the Welcome letter will include the export into our Billing, is this true? Any comments ? Thanks
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post Oct 14 2024, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(nicholas5141 @ Oct 11 2024, 03:41 PM)
Hey guys, I need some opinions. I'm comparing a few vendor solar system proposals and would like some advice on which vendor/system to choose especially on the Solar Panel and Inverter. I'm fairly new to solar systems, so any feedback or opinions are welcome!
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Is the 26K Trina Solar based on 36-60 months installment ?
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post Oct 20 2024, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(lancer193 @ Oct 19 2024, 05:53 PM)
I have send in enquiries for another two more company today let’s see if they will response.

My place has roof with tiles, some area is not so slanted but can only fit 3 panels, majority of the area are 43 degrees slanted.
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maybe due to the slanted angle, the gravity may add more pulling weight to your roof tiles and hence higher chance of roof leaking? Just thinking. Attached is how the panel rail bracket hooked into the truss..

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post Oct 23 2024, 03:29 PM

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I dunno about other facts, but the usual quotation from Solar company uses 3.5 sun hours to convince you that you need x kWh system to cover x amount of your TNB bill.

So, 1132kWh is roughlybased on 10.8kW system x 3.5 sun hour x average 30 days.

Based on my experience, unless it is a totally cloudy whole day, my system is able to produce more than the average 3.5 sun hours production daily. For eg. these few sunny days in KL, my system is able producing about 5.5 sun hours power. So, you have to decide which one suite you especially your location.

A total buy-out 9.xKwh system should be around 28-31K with the 4K rebate from Seda... Why not just buy it out right ?
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post Oct 24 2024, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(nikrizal @ Oct 23 2024, 06:57 PM)
My solar has been ON for two days. Rated 7.26, so far got 34 kWh perday? The weather not fully sunny, mixed with cloudiness. Acceptable readings? Tq
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QUOTE(utellme_6376 @ Oct 24 2024, 12:05 AM)
My solar is 7.2kw too. Switched on from 21 sept till now. So far higher day yield  is 37.4kw and lower day is 11.5kw. In month of sept from 21/9 to 30/9 is 274kw. Yields from  1/10 to 23/10 is 658kw.
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Mine too , 7.26kW system, hoymiles micro inverter, max output was peak out at 6.11kW, max total on a single day was about 38.01kw - 5.5 sun hours.. I wonder what's the max peak output for hoymiles inverter, anyone ?
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post Oct 25 2024, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Sep 30 2024, 02:01 PM)
should be about similar i think.

Anyway, for microinvertor like my house HMS2000, there will be clipping at 536.8W, so u have 1000W panel also no use

Not too sure about string invertor

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Edit: 1000W not no use still can generate more power than 600W panel during morning and evening, but will have heavy clipping during noon time so not efficient.
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mine has the same peak since the activation ..

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post Oct 25 2024, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Oct 25 2024, 12:08 PM)
can share the panel layout that show each of panel performance during the highest kwh?
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pls see a post above this.. Clipping, is this something normal ?
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post Oct 25 2024, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Oct 25 2024, 02:42 PM)
so that's mean with 605W panel, 1 microinverter should connect to 3 panel instead of 4 to get maximum output?
or get the higher W of inverter.
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HMS-2000-4T is connecting to 4 panels. So, 12 Panel system will have 3x HMS-2000 just like mine.


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post Oct 25 2024, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(mrstohchu @ Oct 25 2024, 03:43 PM)
Probably the outlier here. My HMT-2000 can hit 560w. But, it's been cloudy/rainy very often since my system started that i have never experience all my panels maxing out yet ...
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I think HMT is a true 3 phase Micro Inverter ... more expensive than the HMS model hence not many solar vendor offer this, mostly offer only HMS.
Spec wise there is some difference in terms of Max Input, but need electrician to decode what it means in terms of differences to HMS single phase model.

HMT-2000-4T
Max. input voltage: 65V
Rated output power: 2000VA
Number of modules connected: 4
Commonly used module power: 400W to 670W+
MPPT voltage range: 16V–60V
Max. input current: 4 × 16A
Number of MPPTs: 2

HMS-2000-4T
Max. input voltage: 65V
Rated output power: 2000VA
Number of modules connected: 4
Commonly used module power: 400W to 670W+
MPPT voltage range: 16V–60V
Max. input current: 14A
Number of MPPTs: 4
Max. input short circuit current (A): 4 × 20A



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post Oct 25 2024, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(BaRT @ Oct 25 2024, 02:56 PM)
any of user here with 2 panel connected to 1 microinverter? User with system 6KW should be. Or with 10, 14, 18 panels.
What is your max generate for 1 panel?
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based on my vendor's 6kw quote, it will have 10 605wp panels , 2x HSM-2000 and 1x HMS-1000..
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post Oct 26 2024, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(mrstohchu @ Oct 26 2024, 03:28 PM)
Seems that most are on HMS as i can barely find any user contribution on HMT. Price wise, i got my system comparable to a HMS system so i went with it despite there being not much review on this series (To be fair, my vendor said he underquoted me).

So far only diff is i get a balanced distribution of the energy to each phase* n my per panel max is slightly higher. Asides from that, i cannot tell or have yet to discover.

*Good or bad i dont know, mr google n chat GPT says balanced better, others say ability to customise better 🤷🏻‍♀️.
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Yeah.. for someone who is on the verge of being charged by ICPT, balanced load hence balanced Import is important... For mine , one MI to one phase, so if all airconds so happpen are connecting to that MI then very likely Import will be needed even though the rest of the phases are producing enough to cover all airconds consumption.

Good on you.
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post Oct 27 2024, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 26 2024, 07:46 PM)
its not a problem having extra MI on a phase...

those single phase houses with 4-5 kwp all goes to 1 phase, MI is much less...

anyways just saying not an issue with home installations...

commercial is a different story amd have very rigid requirements
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I don't know the actual behavior of a 3P MI, but if it is what it is , each MI should distribute equally to all the 3 Phase power lines I presume..
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post Oct 29 2024, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 28 2024, 04:22 PM)
Would it be possible to upgrade the panel from 4.5 kwp to 9 in the future?
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The first requirement is : If the 4.5kWp is on TNB single phase, you have to upgrade to 3 phase to go to 9kWp system...
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post Oct 29 2024, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 29 2024, 12:06 PM)
Current house under construction is 3 phase.
Asking because developer included this solar system as part of the house.
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When I asked the question to my Vendor the answer is Yes.. can expand as long as spaces allowed.. mine is Micro inverter type.

++ And yes, got to apply additional kWp from Seda too..

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post Oct 30 2024, 12:53 PM

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Apparently HMS-2000 has 4 MPPTs, whereas HMS-2000-4T has 2 according to the spec. Not sure why the reduction though as HMS-2000-4T is the latest i think..
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Oct 30 2024, 12:53 PM)
Apparently HMS-2000 has 4 MPPTs, whereas HMS-2000-4T has 2 according to the spec.  Not sure why the reduction though as HMS-2000-4T is the latest i think..
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ahh.. some variation between Online page vs the Datasheet(downloaded). As per Downloaded Datasheet, HMS-2000-4T has 4 MPPTs. Online page says 2 only....

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post Oct 30 2024, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 30 2024, 01:22 PM)
which is that?...

i checked many -4T mi... they all show 2 mppts only...
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the image above comes from Datasheet downloaded.

Online page is this one, it says 2 MPPTs only : https://www.hoymiles.com/product/hms-1600dw...00dw-2000dw-4t/


4 MPPTs makes sense if we look at the Data in Hoymiles dashboard, every panel has a different output

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post Oct 30 2024, 03:33 PM

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Is there any external/3rd party meter device that could accurately measure Total Harvest, Total Self Consumption & Total Export ?
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post Oct 30 2024, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Oct 30 2024, 02:45 PM)
I also tot 2mppt based on website but my installer send this....they using 4mmpts.
I think this is the one in website Europe without D or DW behind just HMS-2000. The one in website for Asia comes with HMS-2000D or DW behind..

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Download the Datasheet, which i think it reflects the spec more accurately than a webpage..

https://www.hoymiles.com/wp-content/uploads...N_V20240712.pdf


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post Nov 5 2024, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(emjay @ Nov 4 2024, 12:07 AM)
My 10.89kw 18 panels (was quoted Trina 605w but got Trina 610w) just up 10 days ago. 2 panels facing south are on one HMS-2000. Max output for both panels are 536.8w and most productive so far. Highest output total for 18 panels are 9.44kW. Too bad only 2 panels can face south. The rest face north and west. Highest micro inverter temperature was 82 C.

Highest output per day so far was 50.5kWh. On rainy days will get just below 20kWh. On sunny days between 30 to 40 kWh.
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536.8w is the magic number, is the same Max from 605W+HMS2000 that i have got..

btw.. Mind asking, how do you get the the MI's temperature ?

Tks.

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