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post Oct 5 2023, 12:24 PM

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To be honest, all these calculation only prove one thing. If u instal solar, surely will be better than no solar. For lower amount of bill, the system is considered “free” while for higher amount bill the system is considered”free” and get to use some free energy.

So just go solar je if you wanna convert your Tnb payment into a cash making machine on your roof.
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post Oct 5 2023, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Zeliard @ Oct 5 2023, 12:34 PM)
How to install solar at condo?
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Balcony. Retractable structure.


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post Oct 5 2023, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(vin6 @ Oct 5 2023, 01:22 PM)
Remember your sheet shows after 10 years you cant sell back because nem contract is over (not sure if government will continue or extend confirm have to reapply).
Take note - ppl who did their homework abt NEM soalr already know after 10 years they buy batteries and store access energy for night use. This will also consider as saving already but upfront cost would be battery .

Currently estimate price for 5kwh = RM5k-6k (can get cheaper , battery and solar prices keeps dropping).

Average we need at least 10kwh per house depending on lood/usage.
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With current pricing i have to spend about 35k for 35kwh storage for night usage.

So , I hope by then the price drop to sub 20k and with my system, I can still give my system another round of good run.
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post Oct 5 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 5 2023, 06:44 PM)
That is true but at year 10 , investment side shows -37k which means additional 37k from the pocket.
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From the scenario that I show earlier, and all the calculation model point to the benefit of having solar, so year 11onwards, you just need to spend a battery (currently is 47k but could be only 30k in Year 11). Let’s take rm30k

So year 11, you spend on a battery for 30k. Another upfront you come out first. You can use a portion of the 130k that you have saved and then continues to enjoy the rm800 electricity bill.

The new cycle continues but roi is way faster now compared to first cycle.

So with solar panel, your ledger will always be in positive. Unlike u save in epf and pay Tnb, ledger become negative big time.
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post Oct 14 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(yakumo @ Oct 14 2023, 09:32 AM)
ohh 12~25 years not bad, long term gain, but how about the battery storage? , those should be the most expensive and warranty only cover like 1 year?
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Right now for the first 10 years under nem 3.0, we don’t have or need any battery. So battery maintenance or replacement is never an issue.

Even if you decide to go for battery solution after 10 years, the batteries nowadays come with 10 years warranty, so it’s not an issue either. It’s never 1 year warranty.
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post Nov 4 2023, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(CaffeineDog @ Nov 4 2023, 04:36 PM)
How u check the solar generation on myTNB app? Can teach me?
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U can see the export figure.

Thst is the generation that got pushed back to Tnb. This figure will be smaller than the solar generation shown in the app

For example. Your Tnb bill export is 1000kwh

Ur solar generation for the month from solar app is 1300kwh

That means you use some of the generated power of 300kwh.
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post Nov 4 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(CaffeineDog @ Nov 4 2023, 04:50 PM)
Apologies. What i mean is; currently i can view the electricity bill of my parents’ house on myTNB app. Few years ago, my father installed solar panel on the rooftop. Also from Jinko Solar (Ipoh). Do i need to register with TNB in order for the solar power generation statistics to appear on the monthly TNB bill in the app?
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U can view what I explained from their monthly bill. The monthly bill you can add the Tnb acc into your app in your phone. Then u can download already.
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post Feb 14 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 14 2024, 09:44 AM)
Just use lease method lar.

Can subscribe with petronas gentari. Put lil money as deposit they come, install and maintain their solar on your house rooftop.

You get discounted electricity rate.

The solar equipment maintenance, depreciation rate, ROI is not part of your risk already.

Its better that way.

Win win situation for renewable power provider and you.
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Calculated already. Not really worth it. Need to pay average 47cent.
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post Feb 14 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(archief @ Feb 14 2024, 09:41 AM)
hmm i dont understand TS... u have installed 26*550 = 14.3kwp
in your bill only see you generate 1071kWh... ada sikit rendah isn't it?

14.3kwp should generate around worth of rm1k electricity dy... why only export rm552?
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At 3.5 sun hour it shouldn’t be worth 1k of electricity Nyway. The generation is alright. It hasn’t include the self consumption figure.
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post Feb 14 2024, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(archief @ Feb 14 2024, 02:56 PM)
my vendors gave me a list from different brands.. apparently for 14.3kwp is rm1k electrcity bill already..
meaning they false claim the value?
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It’s a gimmick. Don’t fall for it.

If u interested to learn more, can pm me. Or later when I free i pm u.
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post Feb 14 2024, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(empire @ Feb 14 2024, 03:40 PM)
RM800+ bill?? What you have in your house..... 50 air cons and 50 fridges??
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No so much la. My house 13-15 aircond, bill only around rm650. Fridge got two. Dryer got two.
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post Feb 14 2024, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(machomama @ Feb 14 2024, 05:29 PM)
for a tropical sun drenched country like us...
solar power generation should be made available to all (with a roof/space) irrespective to how much the current household TNB bill is

current target group are those with bills amounting to above rm500
where got fair
suruhanjaya tenaga pon lg satu.......make it such that those however small be able to save laa a lil - the concept of saving is important
buatkan yg sudah kaya jadi lagi kaya butter toast watpe
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Actually bill 300 also can go solar. Not bad roi.
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post Feb 15 2024, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Feb 15 2024, 09:09 AM)
wad house is that so many airconds... i got 3 airconds... generally switch on 2, 1 fridge, 1 freezer... also 300 ish...
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Bungalow. Some room I install two. But not all on at the same time.
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post Feb 15 2024, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Feb 15 2024, 09:16 AM)
Maybe good if u use EV car
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Yes. Using ev now. Dolphin.
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post Feb 15 2024, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Feb 15 2024, 09:37 AM)
TS can Pm the contact? Want to evaluate more vendors.
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You want mine? I pm u ya.


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post Feb 15 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(nikitaaa @ Feb 15 2024, 12:10 PM)
Hi. Can I ask you .. since your gross usage is higher than 1500 units.
Do u get extra charged for the surcharge for touching tat level even though your true usage has been brought down by solar ?

I'm also using solar system now. My usage is around 1300kwh (gross). And my bill after inport export calculation is around rm40.
My worry is if I wan to buy ev car, will my total bill kena the new surcharge since it touches 1500 since I will need to charge the car at home.
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Impor figure if no more than 1500 u will avoid the icpt charges.
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post Feb 15 2024, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Feb 15 2024, 05:07 PM)

Can give more detail? my sixth sense telling those company will charge a fee for solar rental and maintenance. They don't charge upfront fee, but they will leech u off every month.

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Apparently u wil need to pay two bills instead of one. One to Tnb. One to solar companies.

When u total up both bill, ur saving is about 10% of ur existing / supposed to be bill.

Unless you are very very big consumer, like few thousand units, the saving is negligible. U are better off paying ur bill using credit card and get 5-10% cash back straight.
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post Feb 15 2024, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 15 2024, 05:48 PM)
Soon this will be removed, solar users will not be entitled to this. The subsidy is meant for poor but rich are benefitting from it!
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If they remove this, it doesn’t affect much. Any increase in tariff is welcome. Coz it’s across board. Poor will be affected too. But for solar user, The roi will be faster. Now it’s the bullshit icpt charges that they manipulate to punish solar users.


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post Feb 15 2024, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Feb 15 2024, 10:38 AM)
Yeap... My house, we kena RM12k for the penalty... Somemore they start calculating from 2016-2021 only...

Not worth...
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Total damage is more than that. Coz installation fee is at least 3k. So total is 15k. If divide by 6 years, it’s rm208 per month.


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post Feb 15 2024, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Feb 15 2024, 05:07 PM)

When u install solar there is two component that cost u money.
- solar panel to collect sunlight
- inverter to convert solar to usable electric.

The panel is relatively cheap when compared to inverter. So when u install solar system. It's recommended to sumbat as many solar panel as possible for one inverter. What i want to say is the system generation is not decided by how much u want to generate. Instead it's how many solar panel ur roof can handle, then u choose the number that a single inverter can fit.

The supplier will guide u in this.
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Actually, it depends on usage and ur single and three phase of your house. Too many pnels , u sendiri rugi coz over generation.

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