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bee88
post Feb 15 2024, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 15 2024, 09:37 PM)
so, the inverter, db box, TNB meter all next to each other; can show a pic of the setup?
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Mine is just additional db box for solar. Next to the main db. Tnb meter is outside. Inverter is hidden behind panel. So u just imagine another db next to your existing db jer.
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post Feb 16 2024, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(meors @ Feb 16 2024, 07:42 AM)
still got NEM? want to try
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Got.if ur bill is quite high, go for it jer
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post Feb 16 2024, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(judas @ Feb 16 2024, 08:00 AM)
Mei 2023 = 1652kWh usage Rm800+++
Nov 2023 = 1240kWh usage Rm40+++ (solar)

Not fair comparison

Should be Rm600+++ vs Rm40+++
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The Nov bill is just the net import. U haven’t include the selfconsumption in the morning. The self consumption in the morning is not on the bill. So Nov bill is not rm600++
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post Feb 16 2024, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 16 2024, 09:20 AM)
Roof leaks are the worst effect, all savings let contractor walop fix leak
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That’s why it’s advisable to get the roof leak warranty from the vendor. Some promise as short at 3 months, some for years.



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post Feb 16 2024, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 16 2024, 11:26 AM)
Good luck getting them to come on time
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Urs didn’t come on time? Maybe can share ur experience and vendor so we can know which to avoid?
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post Feb 24 2024, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 23 2024, 03:15 PM)
Touch 1.5K and the whole amount gets charged with the surcharge right?

Mine 1.6K the past 2 months, and 2.2K the month before that, kena nicely LOL

Rn 1.2K for this month, still got 1 more week so RIP probably gonna be above also FML
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Yes. On solar or not, import value more than 600, no more icpt rebate 2 cent. Import value more than 1500, surcharge icpt 10cent.

U on solar?

This post has been edited by bee88: Feb 24 2024, 03:06 PM
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post Feb 24 2024, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Feb 24 2024, 03:30 PM)
Yea since August, just trying to understand the charges and trying to actively reduce. Its kinda stupid that they dont use net import for that ICPT charge.
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That is net import that they use.

If u are referring to “net import” whereby, u need to minus ur export, that isn’t the case.


But if u want to reduce import, u should change ur lifestyle and do everything in the morning. Like that ur import should be reduced. For example, charging ev in the morning.
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post Feb 24 2024, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Feb 24 2024, 03:48 PM)
and battery replacement
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Yes. That will be in year 20. For battery replacement. Coz first 10 years will be battery free. Year 11 maybe u opt for battery solution. And let’s say battery warranty is 10 years and it kaput in year 10, ngam ngam free battery replacement. So another 10 more years. Total 30 years no need to worry about battery.
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post Feb 24 2024, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Feb 24 2024, 08:19 PM)
if battery always free replaced then good deal, battery is as costly as the panels.
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Actually there is no battery in the setup. Coz it’s under NEM. TNB will work as the battery for free. So there is no battery to replace.
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post Feb 24 2024, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Feb 24 2024, 10:54 PM)
So direct feed to network

and night time withdraw from TNB

I have farm, meter on commercial rate, there is such scheme also ?
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Yes.sure.
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post Feb 24 2024, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Feb 24 2024, 09:14 PM)
Those do hotel and homestay why no install?
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Actually got la. Hotel also got install. Same goes to Homestay too. It all depends on the owner themselves whether they know about the scheme or not. Also some are quite skeptical and keep wondering battery lah, maintenance lah, Tnb not stupid lah and etc. these are the misconception that often stop ppl from seeing the potential of solar. Just like ev too. Some ppl Jsut don’t believe in ev though they never try before.


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post Feb 24 2024, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 24 2024, 11:26 PM)
How much you install bero?

I wanted to install but after NEM if you got no battery, you can only make use of the solar during day time whereas day time most people not at home and only utilize aircond at night during sleep. And battery cost lot of money.

I think for now I rather use the money put into some investment vehicle that generate 5%, and use the return to pay for utility bill.
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Actually, it depends on your Tnb usage. From there you can calculate and see if you feel it’s worth it or not.

Let me give u an example.

You have 25k cash in hand. Ur bill consistently rm350

You don’t need to pay 25k cash to solar installer.

You just need to get a card with credit limit 25k. And swipe it on epp max 60 months. And that will be 416.66 per month at zero interes repayment.

So right now, u still have ur cash with you which u can invest whereeger u want.

And your new bill for Tnb could be rm3.

So u effectively just pay for solar and already paying the minimal amount to Tnb.

So u are utilizing ur credit limit to work for you. And after 5 years the system is yours and still helping u save rm350.

Even if u don’t have credit card and u decide to use the cash, 25k.

Every month, ur 25k system will help u save rm350 ringgit , and one year is about 4200

If I put 25k in bank, I will only have 1250 per annum at 5 percent. And that interest is not enough to cover 4200 bill thst I have to py Tnb anyway.

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post Feb 24 2024, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 24 2024, 11:48 PM)
If we import and setup our own, can get approval from TNB for their NEM program? From where I read on TNB, need to appoint a contractor.
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Not for faint hearted I would say. From sourcing the pnels to installation and commision and applying for nem. Yes, u need seda approved service provider to help apply.

But solar is something u want to have assurance it will work for a long period of time , so engaging a provider isn’t that bad idea. Ur roi could be improved if u diy but when u have problem, u might have trouble to troubleshoot or getting warranty done.

But if you are competent and a builder urself, why not learn more about it and DIY.
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post Feb 25 2024, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Feb 25 2024, 12:01 AM)
I just check around. 20 panels 500w cost about rm6k, really can save a lot money.
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Like I said, it’s cheaper if you know your stuff, but if you don’t, better get a certified solar provider. Or else, it is not as easy as buying solar panels at 6k.


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post Feb 25 2024, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:18 AM)
How long you use adi the solar?
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Now entering second year.
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post Feb 25 2024, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Feb 25 2024, 12:31 AM)
Is the solar collection consistent through out the entire year? Feels like some certain month it's always raining or cloudy
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Usually for rainy months, the production will be about 10-30% lesser than sunny months. Depending on the weather of your place.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Feb 26 2024, 05:52 PM)
This NEM and ROI is all based on your system capacity. The larger the system the faster the ROI. In short it is huge savings for the rich but little to non benefit for the poor. I have calculated for those electricity usage less than RM200 there is little to no benefits because you need to pay up front and the ROI takes 7 to 8 years and within these period of time, anything happen to your solar panel or inverter is not covered after the initial 12 months.
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It’s 10-25 years. Not 12 month.

String inverter is up to 10 years. Micro can go up to 25 years warranty.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Feb 26 2024, 07:16 PM)
String inverter how much if rosak?
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Depending on capacity. But within NEM, it’s covered. So no question how much.
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post Feb 26 2024, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Feb 26 2024, 07:51 PM)
What would be the cost if install solar with battery for off-grid and not under NEM. Meaning using solely solar and only would tap into TNB if solar power not enuf.
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Right now unless u are in a remote area and don’t have Tnb, u are better off with solar and NEM.

BATTERY u can consider when after 10 years. Or u have sensitive appliances that need constant power.

The cost will be about 5k for a 5kwh storage. Depending on how much u need. Just for a reference.
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post Feb 27 2024, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(yeapsc73 @ Feb 27 2024, 11:10 AM)
I read news saying CATL going to cut battery cost in half this year. So battery storage will be much cheaper in 10 years time. Maybe can get 20kwh in 5k then
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Hopefully. Or I just scrap my dolphin to be a power wall.

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