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BL98
post Oct 2 2023, 10:17 AM

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Soon parking rate will become RM10 per hour
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post Oct 2 2023, 10:19 AM

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use this car , no need damage

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Oltromen Ripot
post Oct 2 2023, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Oct 2 2023, 09:40 AM)
Habis la after this parking operators will increase their fees.
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Oct 2 2023, 10:17 AM)
Soon parking rate will become RM10 per hour
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this isn't even a new ruling or law.
everything should already all-inclusive when one charges.

if one wants to operate paid carpark, then need to provide proper facilities, proper space, proper security, proper lighting. most simply think as long as can open a space, then can immediately charge for the floor space.
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post Oct 2 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(fatman_xing @ Oct 2 2023, 10:02 AM)
IMHO, I don't think so that Operators are liable for any damage per se, but for this case, the negligence of the Operator in ensuring the CCTVs are in working condition. Without the CCTV recordings, authorities are unable to trace the perpetrators. Therefore, they faulted on this.
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if one operates a PAID car park, then providing security is implicit part and parcel of the deal. operator failed to shift damages onto the actual perp, so operator needs to shoulder the blame and compensation.
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post Oct 2 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Oct 2 2023, 09:18 AM)
What about those that come collect from you at those seemingly public spaces ?
If something happen can we ask them to bear it ? So easy come collect money on public space.
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That one is different. You're paying to make sure nothing happen to your car laugh.gif You're not paying for the parking.

QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 2 2023, 09:19 AM)
Those need to pay on weekdays one. Like last time need to pay at machine and now pay on tng app/jomparking/flexi parking.

Long time ago side windows got smashed but that time never thought of claim from dbkl.
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I think this one would be different case, cause you're considered parking at public space. Jurisdiction should be under JPJ, and I don't think they're liable for damages to your vehicle while parked in public space.
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post Oct 2 2023, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 2 2023, 10:25 AM)
if one operates a PAID car park, then providing security is implicit part and parcel of the deal. operator failed to shift damages onto the actual perp, so operator needs to shoulder the blame and compensation.
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Yes betul for this situation. But if adequate security was provided (i.e. recording of the incident, security guard was alerted upon hearing the damage and etc), then it would be deemed the Operator fulfilled its basic duty. Hence Operators cannot sewenang-wenang put the notice "park at own risk"

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post Oct 2 2023, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(fatman_xing @ Oct 2 2023, 02:55 PM)
Yes betul for this situation. But if adequate security was provided (i.e. recording of the incident, security guard was alerted upon hearing the damage and etc), then it would be deemed the Operator fulfilled its basic duty. Hence Operators cannot sewenang-wenang put the notice "park at own risk"
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in newspaper before, KPDNKKHEP or something said, displaying THAT disclaimer notice itself is ground for carpark operator to be compounded.
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post Oct 2 2023, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Oct 2 2023, 08:54 AM)
Car park operators liable for damage to vehicles

PETALING JAYA: Which party is liable for damage caused to a vehicle when it is parked at a car park?
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Lawyer Siva Ganish Sudrarajoo said car park operators can be held liable for damage to parked vehicles under contract law and the tort of negligence.

He said individuals have legal options and remedies available to them, including filing a civil claim for monetary compensation based on the tort of negligence and breach of contract.

“In Malaysia, the liability of car park operators under contract law is governed by the Contracts Act 1950. Their liability under tort is determined based on case law, with Donoghue vs Stevenson being the precedent followed by Malaysian courts,” he said.
In a landmark case, the Court of Appeal in Euro Rent A Car Sdn Bhd vs Sunway Parking Services Sdn Bhd (2020) held that the car park operator could not rely on an exemption clause to evade liability since the motorist had paid a fee to park at the facility. Hence, the parking operator must be held liable for negligence
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Link: https://www.thesundaily.my/local/car-park-o...cles-MD11563096
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Some ktard loyar buruk told me msia cnt enforce Contract Law even though there was a contract when parkers paid money to the parking operator. Still got loophole, so wanna see any external grad loyar want to to put up defence?

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What kind of accident that aoccur in a parking lot until need change windscreen and tyres? At most scratch & dents and maybe sidemirror broken only right, sounds like intentional vandalism.
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post Oct 2 2023, 05:48 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, I think many cashless parking facilities do not have the option to issue receipt upon exit payment, unlike autopay machine.

So in the event of unfortunate, how to get proof that you have parked in the facility ? surely we would heard of CCTV not functioning, no witness from security etc


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post Oct 2 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(wat de....?! @ Oct 2 2023, 05:48 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I think many cashless parking facilities do not have the option to issue receipt upon exit payment, unlike autopay machine.

So in the event of unfortunate, how to get proof that you have parked in the facility ? surely we would heard of CCTV not functioning, not witness from security etc
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All cashless payment have record of payment aka receipt.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 2 2023, 05:50 PM)
All cashless payment have record of payment aka receipt.
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You mean from the card database, such as credit card transaction, tng payment record etc.

What i meant is the receipt from carpark operator
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QUOTE(wat de....?! @ Oct 2 2023, 05:55 PM)
You mean from the card database, such as credit card transaction, tng payment record etc.

What i meant is the receipt from carpark operator
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Hello, skrg 2023!
Many transactions no long have physical paper.
What you need is proof of payment that is the electronic records which when required can be print out.

 

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