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 Nakeds, fully faired or others?, Let's see which is the preferred style!

Between 1) Naked bike (well, you know what this is) 2) Fully faired sport tourer (e.g. R1250RS, GSX-s1000GT, V100 Mandello) 3) Fully faired sport bike (e.g. ZX6R, S1000RR) 4) ADV (you know this too). Which would be your choice?
 
Naked Bike [ 25 ] ** [43.10%]
Fully faired sport tourer [ 11 ] ** [18.97%]
Fully faired sport bike [ 7 ] ** [12.07%]
ADV [ 7 ] ** [12.07%]
Cruiser [ 5 ] ** [8.62%]
Scrambler [ 3 ] ** [5.17%]
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post Sep 13 2023, 06:40 PM, updated 3y ago

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There's a lot of bike styles out there. Just curious to know what's the general taste out there among this LYN group. There are 6 styles in the list. Choose your fav and maybe add a few lines why you prefer that particular style.

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Naked bike for me.. love the raw feeling of riding.
But I also added windshield to block some wind, maybe deep inside I'm a sport touring fan? laugh.gif
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post Sep 13 2023, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 13 2023, 06:54 PM)
Scooter : " I am discriminated.." laugh.gif
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post Sep 13 2023, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 13 2023, 06:54 PM)
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post Sep 13 2023, 07:08 PM

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am still riding my first bike, a naked bike and i'm liking the wind blast > 100 km/h(at least i wont sweat under my mesh jacket? ) so no idea how it feels like with a fully faired bike.
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 13 2023, 06:54 PM)
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post Sep 14 2023, 09:05 AM

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Useless poll.. hahaha...
Moto boys where can settle with only 1 bike?

Each bike style for each riding style. So it depends on what and how we ride.

Street, naked, or scooter
Highway , ADV or sport touring
Off road, kapchai with knobbies.

Personally, I have no preference. Sportbikes are nice but getting too old for the ergos.
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post Sep 14 2023, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 14 2023, 09:07 AM)
Useless poll.. hahaha...
Moto boys where can settle with only 1 bike?

Each bike style for each riding style. So it depends on what and how we ride.

Street, naked, or scooter
Highway , ADV or sport touring
Off road, kapchai with knobbies.

Personally, I have no preference. Sportbikes are nice but getting too old for the ergos.
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hehe, maybe a poll like "how many bikes do you want?"
then, name them in the comments

I'll probably "sportsbike" everything

then again, for practical reasons I'm looking at XJ6, SV650, Versys (a bit too heavy I fear)

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post Sep 14 2023, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 14 2023, 09:07 AM)
Useless poll.. hahaha...
Moto boys where can settle with only 1 bike?

Each bike style for each riding style. So it depends on what and how we ride.

Street, naked, or scooter
Highway , ADV or sport touring
Off road, kapchai with knobbies.

Personally, I have no preference. Sportbikes are nice but getting too old for the ergos.
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Yup, depends on what gets you best. Let's say, it is just one bike that you can have and own. I have friends who has several bikes for different purposes and also friends who must choose one bike for as many purposes they use it for. So, not that useless lah
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post Sep 14 2023, 10:51 AM

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My ideal

naked, less than 200kg wet, non water cooled, can ride upright sit straight, full service/workshop manual available, spare part ez to get/import, non low seat + forward control... less than rm35k

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post Sep 14 2023, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 10:51 AM)
My ideal

naked, less than 200kg wet, non water cooled, can ride upright sit straight, full service/workshop manual available, spare part ez to get/import, non low seat + forward control... less than rm35k

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795 fits all except for the easy spare parts.... desmo is kinda sakit
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post Sep 14 2023, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 14 2023, 10:54 AM)
795 fits all except for the easy spare parts.... desmo is kinda sakit
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dukahati kenot sit straight leh... nid to lean abit...
service manual kinda hard to get...

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post Sep 14 2023, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 10:51 AM)
My ideal

naked, less than 200kg wet, non water cooled, can ride upright sit straight, full service/workshop manual available, spare part ez to get/import, non low seat + forward control... less than rm35k

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why dont want water cooled? you like burning your legs? laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 10:58 AM)
dukahati kenot sit straight leh... nid to lean abit...
service manual kinda hard to get...
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not super leaning forward.... and yes why dont want water cooling? way i see it, the upkeep is a small price to pay
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 14 2023, 09:29 AM)
Yup, depends on what gets you best. Let's say, it is just one bike that you can have and own. I have friends who has several bikes for different purposes and also friends who must choose one bike for as many purposes they use it for. So, not that useless lah
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Its all about the compromises one is willing to make.

If only one bike, perhaps a street/retro scrambler type bike. Say a triumph scrambler 900, or a cheaper 700CLX.

Add a windshield, good for highway. Long flat seat means you can move about to whatever lean you want or just sit upright. With proper tyres, can do light to moderate offroading. Not too heavy about 200kg wet.

Right now, I'm pretty happy with my dominar despite its shortcomings, something I already known and willing to live with until a later time. I have it setup as a low cost mini touring/adv bike. Can handle light offroading, decent wind protection with my headlight riser and windshield. Just enough power for highway. Fun enough in the twisties. Most importantly, Cheap as fuck to not worry about trashing it and doing big miles. Mine seems to have avoided most of the lemon issues..now approaching 60k in 2.5years.

In any case, no point owning a garage queen.

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post Sep 14 2023, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 13 2023, 07:40 PM)
There's a lot of bike styles out there. Just curious to know what's the general taste out there among this LYN group. There are 6 styles in the list. Choose your fav and maybe add a few lines why you prefer that particular style.
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Mana retro-style bikes?
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post Sep 14 2023, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 14 2023, 11:38 AM)
not super leaning forward.... and yes why dont want water cooling? way i see it, the upkeep is a small price to pay
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QUOTE(Patent @ Sep 14 2023, 11:02 AM)
why dont want water cooled? you like burning your legs?  laugh.gif
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fewer parts, simpler to maintain, less headache,

yes some model of dukati, harli, etc are not water cooled, n hv been around for years...
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 12:56 PM)
fewer parts, simpler to maintain, less headache,

yes some model of dukati, harli, etc are not water cooled, n hv been around for years...
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ur other options... i think are some of the chinese bikes? i think there were some smaller cc aircooled models? not too familiar
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post Sep 14 2023, 12:59 PM

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by the way ts lowpro

is that your bike tht ur trying to sell..?

saw one... consider rare stuff...
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post Sep 14 2023, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Sep 14 2023, 12:30 PM)
Mana retro-style bikes?
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Alamak lupa that group lah. I guess can lump in with nakeds? Wait I see if can amend the polls...
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 12:59 PM)
by the way ts lowpro

is that your bike tht ur trying to sell..?

saw one... consider rare stuff...
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Yup, that's my SV up for sale. It is an X so it comes with the sportbike posture but without a sportbike fairing. Someone asked me if it was possible to convert it back to a non X model...I told him it would not make financial sense and better instead to look for a used non X. People buy the X for what it is.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 14 2023, 01:12 PM)
Yup, that's my SV up for sale. It is an X so it comes with the sportbike posture but without a sportbike fairing. Someone asked me if it was possible to convert it back to a non X model...I told him it would not make financial sense and better instead to look for a used non X. People buy the X for what it is.
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lol farney d fler...

change handle bar, the pegs got go up?
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 14 2023, 12:58 PM)
ur other options... i think are some of the chinese bikes? i think there were some smaller cc aircooled models? not too familiar
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chinese bikes kenot get service manual leh...
except leoncino.... and some other...
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 02:21 PM)
lol farney d fler...

change handle bar, the pegs got go up?
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Pegs at same position. It only changes the rider triangle to be a little more comfortable. But the cost is not worth it IMHO. Not just the handles, the cables need to be changed as well.
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post Sep 14 2023, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 14 2023, 01:12 PM)
Yup, that's my SV up for sale. It is an X so it comes with the sportbike posture but without a sportbike fairing. Someone asked me if it was possible to convert it back to a non X model...I told him it would not make financial sense and better instead to look for a used non X. People buy the X for what it is.
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the 'reluctant sale' belongs to you?
I've been drooling at it for a few days now.... but, why?
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I would choose ADV if there are lighter bikes than the existing ADV bikes >500cc.

If only they still make the light ADV bikes like BMW HP2 Enduro or the KTM LC4 640 Adventure R...

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 14 2023, 03:52 PM)
the 'reluctant sale' belongs to you?
I've been drooling at it for a few days now.... but, why?
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A few key matters but my job doesn't allow me much time to ride for now so I might as well let it go to someone who can appreciate it better. It has just 7700km on the clock. For a bike registered in 2021, that's quite low. It is a 2019 bike by the way. I'll get back to biking for sure in about 2 years. Till then I'll take short rides if I feel the urge on my brother's bikes.
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quite a good number prefer naked bikes from the poll
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Sep 14 2023, 06:37 PM)
quite a good number prefer naked bikes from the poll
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Ya I noticed too. This is aligned with the products brought out by manufacturers as well. I thought they just made it because of the global market without much regard to our tiny market. Hence, I was wondering about the situation in Malaysia, whether or not it followed the global landscape. But I am glad that CF Moto (500SR & 650SR), QJ (600RC) and the Japanese big 4 are coming back with fully faired bikes, whether full (or mini) sports bike like the ZX25R or ZX4R. or those based on nakeds like the R7, the R9, maybe the GSX8R and also the CBR750 based on the Hornet. I love fully faired bikes though... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Sep 14 2023, 06:37 PM)
quite a good number prefer naked bikes from the poll
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tbh i prefered sportbikes... but after trying nakeds, its just easy.... and when i wana do any work, mygod so so much easier..
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 14 2023, 12:27 PM)
Its all about the compromises one is willing to make.

If only one bike, perhaps a street/retro scrambler type bike. Say a triumph scrambler 900, or a cheaper 700CLX.

Add a windshield, good for highway. Long flat seat means you can move about to whatever lean you want or just sit upright. With proper tyres, can do light to moderate offroading. Not too heavy about 200kg wet.

Right now, I'm pretty happy with my dominar despite its shortcomings, something I already known and willing to live with until a later time. I have it setup as a low cost mini touring/adv bike. Can handle light offroading, decent wind protection with my headlight riser and windshield. Just enough power for highway. Fun enough in the twisties. Most importantly, Cheap as fuck to not worry about trashing it and doing big miles. Mine seems to have avoided most of the lemon issues..now approaching 60k in 2.5years.

In any case, no point owning a garage queen.

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 14 2023, 06:28 PM)
A few key matters but my job doesn't allow me much time to ride for now so I might as well let it go to someone who can appreciate it better. It has just 7700km on the clock. For a bike registered in 2021, that's quite low. It is a 2019 bike by the way. I'll get back to biking for sure in about 2 years. Till then I'll take short rides if I feel the urge on my brother's bikes.
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that's the exact cafe racer model I like
is it easy to carry a pillion? I notice it doesn't have the grab bar
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 14 2023, 12:27 PM)

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no excuse for courier/food delivery guy to get the wrong address huh
what's it made of?

QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2023, 12:56 PM)
fewer parts, simpler to maintain, less headache,

yes some model of dukati, harli, etc are not water cooled, n hv been around for years...
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first 5 years is virtually maintenance-free

QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Sep 14 2023, 06:37 PM)
quite a good number prefer naked bikes from the poll
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easier to service no need to take many parts apart
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 14 2023, 08:43 PM)
that's the exact cafe racer model I like
is it easy to carry a pillion? I notice it doesn't have the grab bar
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It is easy. Rear seat a little narrow though so if passenger butt not too wide should be oklah. Passenger can either grab the centre strap or your tummy biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 15 2023, 08:36 AM)
It is easy. Rear seat a little narrow though so if passenger butt not too wide should be oklah. Passenger can either grab the centre strap or your tummy  biggrin.gif
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that bike must be so full of character
hope to see you on the road someday
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 15 2023, 08:57 AM)
that bike must be so full of character
hope to see you on the road someday
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If the SVX has been sold, I can still take my brother's Dominar 400 or CFMoto 650GT or R25 plus, he still has the Naza Cruise 650 and other weird bikes.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 15 2023, 09:04 AM)
If the SVX has been sold, I can still take my brother's Dominar 400 or CFMoto 650GT or R25 plus, he still has the Naza Cruise 650 and other weird bikes.
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dude, sell your brother, keep his bikes.... tongue.gif

you do know the SVX is limited units, right?
then again, a bike is a bike, someday better ones will come along when time is right
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full fairing bikes, im interested in middle weight tourers like the cfmoto 650gt, tht can sit almost straight..

current trend, no major brand got style like this...
for middle weight class la
suma mao abit adventure style...

cfmoto me still tak brani oh.... if unlucky sadai kat mforce fak lo..
kenot find service manual..
reliable sparepart shop or runner frm china oso kenot find yet..

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 15 2023, 11:04 AM)
full fairing bikes, im interested in middle weight tourers like the cfmoto 650gt, tht can sit almost straight..

current trend, no major brand got style like this...
for middle weight class la
suma mao abit  adventure style...

cfmoto me still tak brani oh.... if unlucky sadai kat mforce fak lo..
kenot find service manual..
reliable sparepart shop or runner frm china oso kenot find yet..

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From my bro's bike, the signal light stalks don't last. He's using aftermarket front and rear signal lights. Engine no issues though. I do like that genre of bikes too.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 15 2023, 11:04 AM)
full fairing bikes, im interested in middle weight tourers like the cfmoto 650gt, tht can sit almost straight..

current trend, no major brand got style like this...
for middle weight class la
suma mao abit  adventure style...

cfmoto me still tak brani oh.... if unlucky sadai kat mforce fak lo..
kenot find service manual..
reliable sparepart shop or runner frm china oso kenot find yet..

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haha I also want this kind of bike.. take out the side box can become good enough for city commute
unfortunate that this kind of bike only has market on 1000+ cc

so then back to naked and just modify to your needs
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QUOTE(k41AA @ Sep 14 2023, 11:53 PM)
no excuse for courier/food delivery guy to get the wrong address huh

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Lol. Its fake grass. Its my office.

And yet, they still can't find the place. Go figure. I have even bigger letters on my balcony. I guess they don't look up.

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 15 2023, 11:04 AM)
full fairing bikes, im interested in middle weight tourers like the cfmoto 650gt, tht can sit almost straight..

current trend, no major brand got style like this...
for middle weight class la
suma mao abit  adventure style...

cfmoto me still tak brani oh.... if unlucky sadai kat mforce fak lo..
kenot find service manual..
reliable sparepart shop or runner frm china oso kenot find yet..

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You are exactly in the same position as I am.

Been looking at the 650GT for over 3 years now, ever since they brought it in..... Even before I got my Dominar. Still can't bring myself to buy it.

I might be more tempted if they throw the 700CLX engine in and add cruise control. Since they already announced the updated 700MT

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Looks like the vote is still for naked bikes. Even with sport bikes and sport tourers added, still cannot match the numbers for naked bikes...I guess I will do another poll (and add in retros) in a few months just to see the trend by numbers. I thought the ADV fan base would be higher though with so many GS and GSA running around. Thanks all for participating.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 20 2023, 08:27 AM)
Looks like the vote is still for naked bikes. Even with sport bikes and sport tourers added, still cannot match the numbers for naked bikes...I guess I will do another poll (and add in retros) in a few months just to see the trend by numbers. I thought the ADV fan base would be higher though with so many GS and GSA running around. Thanks all for participating.
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ADVs are indeed popular. But for those that actually do go off road, we know better to go with something lighter and lower. Besides there is a significant ADV tax on the bikes.

Those big GSs are mainly used as highway mile munchers, and great in that role. Or perhaps the big bike ADV demographics are different from the ones in this forum, both in size of our wallets and size of our stature. I for one can't see myself trying to muscle a tall 260kg, 150k bike on the soft stuff.....



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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 20 2023, 11:57 AM)
ADVs are indeed popular. But for those that actually do go off road, we know better to go with something lighter and lower. Besides there is a significant ADV tax on the bikes.

Those big GSs are mainly used as highway mile munchers, and great in that role. Or perhaps the big bike ADV demographics are different from the ones in this forum, both in size of our wallets and size of our stature. I for one can't see myself trying to muscle a tall 260kg, 150k bike on the soft stuff.....
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GS masuk Rimba Raid
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Got finish? Machiam all DNF leh.

Hahaha.

Not to throw dirt on the GS. it's an immensely capable bike. But not for me. I neither got the skill nor size to handle a machine of that size.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 20 2023, 03:43 PM)
Got finish? Machiam all DNF leh.

Hahaha.

Not to throw dirt on the GS. it's an immensely capable bike. But not for me. I neither got the skill nor size to handle a machine of that size.
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I don't even wanna look at it, for many reasons haha, doesn't mean those who got it are wrong

Tomorrow go checkout the CBR hope all goes well

And yeah, I check the gearing of D400 and Duke 390.... it's geared to max at 140, wth lah.
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post Sep 21 2023, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 20 2023, 06:44 PM)
I don't even wanna look at it, for many reasons haha, doesn't mean those who got it are wrong

Tomorrow go checkout the CBR hope all goes well

And yeah, I check the gearing of D400 and Duke 390.... it's geared to max at 140, wth lah.
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It'll do 155. Buts that's not saying much. Definitely needs a rear sprocket downsize. I'm running 3T down. Top speed now is about 165 without my panniers.

Good luck on the CBR hunt.
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post Sep 21 2023, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 21 2023, 09:04 AM)
It'll do 155. Buts that's not saying much. Definitely needs a rear sprocket downsize. I'm running 3T down. Top speed now is about 165 without my panniers.

Good luck on the CBR hunt.
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thanks for the numbers... is that matched against GPS?
CBR to replace my 2 stroke, more comfortable, heavier, with box

 

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