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ally9970
post Jan 31 2024, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 26 2024, 11:40 AM)
not downgrade in term of comfort and NVH  biggrin.gif
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Of course, the comfort & NVH is part of the kehendak, but still downgrade in term of brand...
constant_weight
post Jan 31 2024, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 08:13 AM)
Personally speaking, I wouldn't mind driving whatever brand, as long as I like that car.

I've been toying with the idea of getting a stick shift for a weekend toy in Sydney. My Cayenne is obviously Tiptronic, and I don't know what got into my head when I opted for PDK in my 911 GTS (actually, I do know what got into my head - the faster 0-100kmh timing: 3.4s vs 4.0s).

So, I kinda have an itch for a manual that I'm trying hard not to scratch (but I know I will fail).

For that, I have 3 candidates in mind:

1. Stick with the Porsche brand: a 718 Boxster in manual - BUT, that's on its last legs, with an all EV platform replacement round the corner

2. Go back to BMW (the M2 still comes in manual) - but, the M2 is really, erm, shall I diplomatically say, an acquired taste in the looks department right now

3. Go for an MX-5

3 different brands, and one might argue that a BMW or a Mazda is a step down from Porsche, but as long as the driver gets his quota of enjoyment, who cares!
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Roof -> 992 911 S/T, only available in Manual!
No Roof -> 718 Spyder RS (technically is a speedster with attachable umbrella, not convertible tongue.gif), only available in PDK

It is final party for 9000rpm NA, at least play a few years before sell them, unfortunately my all in can only buy a base 718 (meaning I can't afford it, it is too big of a trade off)

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post Jan 31 2024, 12:17 PM

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post Jan 31 2024, 12:20 PM

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post Jan 31 2024, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jan 31 2024, 12:14 PM)
Roof -> 992 911 S/T, only available in Manual!
No Roof -> 718 Spyder RS (technically is a speedster with attachable umbrella, not convertible  tongue.gif), only available in PDK

It is final party for 9000rpm NA, at least play a few years before sell them, unfortunately my all in can only buy a base 718 (meaning I can't afford it, it is too big of a trade off)
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Bro.... you have expensive tastes hahaha.

I can never justify buying a 992 S/T - because I won't dare to take it out and use it like it was meant to be driven.

I'll stick with something that I can afford to live with scratches or the occasional dent, if I get too enthusiastic on the back roads with a stick shifter.

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post Jan 31 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jan 31 2024, 12:14 PM)
Roof -> 992 911 S/T, only available in Manual!
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Watched 2 Jason 1 car? Lol

QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 12:55 PM)
I can never justify buying a 992 S/T - because I won't dare to take it out and use it like it was meant to be driven.
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If i can afford it, you damn well guarantee it'll be driven hard.

Otherwise no point buying it as a garage queen/prop.
That's wastage to me and i don't like wasting.
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post Jan 31 2024, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 31 2024, 01:32 PM)
Watched 2 Jason 1 car? Lol
If i can afford it, you damn well guarantee it'll be driven hard.

Otherwise no point buying it as a garage queen/prop.
That's wastage to me and i don't like wasting.
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That and more... literally any one that pops up on my YT recommender. Mandarin, English, Japanese, Spanish...

Yes, will be driven hard for me too. Rev all the way.

My BBS RI-D got stone chips within 3 days on the road, but WTH the suspension response is sooooo much better, 5kg weight reduction per wheel is no joke.
Settle down and suck back to the road a lot faster, I feel like I don't need coilover until the current OEM shock done deal.

No regrets, now keep finding excuse to take car out for errand.

As a result I'm screwed.... Keep thinking of high end expensive monoblock brake caliper (below 3kg) on the front, but with minimal rotor size increase (345mm -> 355mm) to cut another 6kg or so (my OEM caliper is over 9kg!).
I don't want to mess with current brake bias that I really like, and OEM rotor is not that small to begin with.

No weight saving benefit of upgrading the rear, I don't track the car and happy with current braking with SportContact 7.
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post Jan 31 2024, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 12:55 PM)
Bro.... you have expensive tastes hahaha.

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I know, that hat I want is alway larger than my head.

It is about the experience, not the brand itself.

It is not justifiable to put on a set of wheel that cost 15% of the car when the car was brand new, I went ahead anyway.
I'm curious what is the impact. Turn out to be super satisfying, and I'm asking for more!

Now I know if one day I can afford the Porsche, I know I will pick PCCB and upgrade BBS/IPE/Manthey Racing wheel. I sorta know how to expect, it is a never ending learning/exploration process.
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post Jan 31 2024, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jan 31 2024, 01:50 PM)
I know, that hat I want is alway larger than my head.

It is about the experience, not the brand itself.

It is not justifiable to put on a set of wheel that cost 15% of the car when the car was brand new, I went ahead anyway.
I'm curious what is the impact. Turn out to be super satisfying, and I'm asking for more!

Now I know if one day I can afford the Porsche, I know I will pick PCCB and upgrade BBS/IPE/Manthey Racing wheel. I sorta know how to expect, it is a never ending learning/exploration process.
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That’s also because you have the skills to exploit the potential of the car bro.

I just enjoy the cruise and imagine how it would have been like if I had the money 25 years ago … as opposed to being moneyed now
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post Jan 31 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 02:36 PM)
That’s also because you have the skills to exploit the potential of the car bro.

I just enjoy the cruise and imagine how it would have been like if I had the money 25 years ago … as opposed to being moneyed now
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Well by the time I can afford one, it will be approaching my retirement age.

I once heard from a well distinguished gentlemen, look at the distinctive life quality I have now but I can never imagine driving a BMW at young age 17-18.

Is that sad? At least there is still hope and I still can make it.

The goal is stay healthy and maintain body shape to crawl in/out of those sport carsss when I'm 80yo. rclxs0.gif




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post Jul 21 2024, 10:24 PM

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Can't afford fancy cars like honda, toyota, proton x70, merc, bmw...etc

Now only drive my trusted Isuzu pickup truck for daily use and hopefully until retirement.

Nobody says "Wow" to Isuzu brand and I'm happy that my car's brand is not associated with status symbol.

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post Jul 22 2024, 01:14 PM

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My last car was an E250 coupe 2012, it was fun to drive but the last 3 months things started going wrong like turbo KO, oil leaks, ecu acting up, creaking suspension, etc.
So decided to sell and found a buyer who loved the condition and drove off after transferring funds.
So I set my eyes firmly on the Civic FE turbo but then discovered the hybrid version which I immediately bought after getting a very good discount and swift delivery. No regrets shifting from a conti to a jap. Easy to drive with great fuel economy plus fantastic acceleration.
Now to live with it for 5+ years before thinking of changing.
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post Jul 22 2024, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(DenshaOtoko @ Jul 21 2024, 11:24 PM)
Can't afford fancy cars like honda, toyota, proton x70, merc, bmw...etc

Now only drive my trusted Isuzu pickup truck for daily use and hopefully until retirement.

Nobody says "Wow" to Isuzu brand and I'm happy that my car's brand is not associated with status symbol.
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H, T and Proton X70 are not fancy cars ler...these are normal cars for the masses.
When I retire, I will downsize to either of these brands.
A HRV or a WRV would a nice daily runabout.
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post Jul 22 2024, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ride19 @ Jul 22 2024, 02:14 PM)
My last car was an E250 coupe 2012, it was fun to drive but the last 3 months things started going wrong like turbo KO, oil leaks, ecu acting up, creaking suspension, etc.
So decided to sell and found a buyer who loved the condition and drove off after transferring funds.
So I set my eyes firmly on the Civic FE turbo but then discovered the hybrid version which I immediately bought after getting a very good discount and swift delivery. No regrets shifting from a conti to a jap. Easy to drive with great fuel economy plus fantastic acceleration.
Now to live with it for 5+ years before thinking of changing.
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Hybrid version? Well your decision to use for 5+ years is a good thing to sell to another buyer, Honda hybrid system keep on changing every generation and the parts is not cheap. No more warranty will be headache for new buyer if he did not got budget to fix.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jul 22 2024, 01:51 PM)
H, T and Proton X70 are not fancy cars ler...these are normal cars for the masses.
When I retire, I will downsize to either of these brands.
A HRV or a WRV would a nice daily runabout.
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Damn, doing great there my n*gga! Glad you are enjoying life. Piece of advice, if you are thinking to downgrade for any reason except financial, just get a second Myvi. Speaking from experience:
4 years back I bought a brand new E200. Drove for 2 years and decide to downgrade, cause I miss my old Myvi so much. Just like everyone in the topic said, great fuel consumption, cheap services, easy parking and so on. I sold the E200 and bought myself a axia.
Fast forward last month, my hand start to itch again and bought the new 330i. But this time, I kept my axia with me just in case the nostalgia hits again. So ever since, been juggling between these two cars.
End of the day, I enjoy driving. That being said, nothing beats conti driving experience.
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post Jul 22 2024, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(DenshaOtoko @ Jul 21 2024, 10:24 PM)
Can't afford fancy cars like honda, toyota, proton x70, merc, bmw...etc

Now only drive my trusted Isuzu pickup truck for daily use and hopefully until retirement.

Nobody says "Wow" to Isuzu brand and I'm happy that my car's brand is not associated with status symbol.
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Come buy x70 used or from fb group at very good condition, warranty intact, mileage low proof at SC. Make sure it is CKD cz the current tech of DCT gb. Price now is affordable. To drive long distance in this car is great, NVH is good. Cons, city drive fuel consumption is high if push the acceleration but drive sedately can get 8.5-9L/100km by meter, push more can hit 12L/100km at city drive
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post Jul 22 2024, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jul 22 2024, 01:51 PM)
H, T and Proton X70 are not fancy cars ler...these are normal cars for the masses.
When I retire, I will downsize to either of these brands.
A HRV or a WRV would a nice daily runabout.
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I have no idea what car to buy if I want to downgrade someday. I always prefer a vehicle that has spacious cargo storages such as CRV, Innova, fortuner, pickup truck etc. Not much options unless I go for Xpander or Alza. But I have no interest for these cars.
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post Jul 22 2024, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 22 2024, 04:16 PM)
Come buy x70 used or from fb group at very good condition, warranty intact, mileage low proof at SC. Make sure it is CKD cz the current tech of DCT gb. Price now is affordable. To drive long distance in this car is great, NVH is good. Cons, city drive fuel consumption is high if push the acceleration but drive sedately can get 8.5-9L/100km by meter, push more can hit 12L/100km at city drive
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I heard so many issues with X70 both cbu & ckd. Not confident with this car.

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