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post Sep 19 2023, 04:25 PM

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No brand is a downgrade to another brand.

It is all about what a brand build rather than the brand itself.

Look at what Hyundai has transform itself into. Decades of investment in testing around Nordschleife, investment in TCR racing.

Geely too doing very well in TCR with their Cyan Racing team.

The duo are perfectly capable of making high performance car, solid engineering capability. It is matter of decision of which market segments they want to focus.

See Koenigsegg when they made their first hypercar, they ain't have any heritage. It was a young company, and still is a young company. With right product, people will buy.

Now there are companies that make junks now (from engineering point of view) like Ora, Neta. They focus on cosmetic, and it is all about about assembly off the shelves parts in engineering department with little to none mechanical R&D. But one day if they decided to change the company direction, and build proper driving machine, they can do it with right investment.

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post Jan 31 2024, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 08:13 AM)
Personally speaking, I wouldn't mind driving whatever brand, as long as I like that car.

I've been toying with the idea of getting a stick shift for a weekend toy in Sydney. My Cayenne is obviously Tiptronic, and I don't know what got into my head when I opted for PDK in my 911 GTS (actually, I do know what got into my head - the faster 0-100kmh timing: 3.4s vs 4.0s).

So, I kinda have an itch for a manual that I'm trying hard not to scratch (but I know I will fail).

For that, I have 3 candidates in mind:

1. Stick with the Porsche brand: a 718 Boxster in manual - BUT, that's on its last legs, with an all EV platform replacement round the corner

2. Go back to BMW (the M2 still comes in manual) - but, the M2 is really, erm, shall I diplomatically say, an acquired taste in the looks department right now

3. Go for an MX-5

3 different brands, and one might argue that a BMW or a Mazda is a step down from Porsche, but as long as the driver gets his quota of enjoyment, who cares!
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Roof -> 992 911 S/T, only available in Manual!
No Roof -> 718 Spyder RS (technically is a speedster with attachable umbrella, not convertible tongue.gif), only available in PDK

It is final party for 9000rpm NA, at least play a few years before sell them, unfortunately my all in can only buy a base 718 (meaning I can't afford it, it is too big of a trade off)

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post Jan 31 2024, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 31 2024, 01:32 PM)
Watched 2 Jason 1 car? Lol
If i can afford it, you damn well guarantee it'll be driven hard.

Otherwise no point buying it as a garage queen/prop.
That's wastage to me and i don't like wasting.
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That and more... literally any one that pops up on my YT recommender. Mandarin, English, Japanese, Spanish...

Yes, will be driven hard for me too. Rev all the way.

My BBS RI-D got stone chips within 3 days on the road, but WTH the suspension response is sooooo much better, 5kg weight reduction per wheel is no joke.
Settle down and suck back to the road a lot faster, I feel like I don't need coilover until the current OEM shock done deal.

No regrets, now keep finding excuse to take car out for errand.

As a result I'm screwed.... Keep thinking of high end expensive monoblock brake caliper (below 3kg) on the front, but with minimal rotor size increase (345mm -> 355mm) to cut another 6kg or so (my OEM caliper is over 9kg!).
I don't want to mess with current brake bias that I really like, and OEM rotor is not that small to begin with.

No weight saving benefit of upgrading the rear, I don't track the car and happy with current braking with SportContact 7.
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post Jan 31 2024, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 12:55 PM)
Bro.... you have expensive tastes hahaha.

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I know, that hat I want is alway larger than my head.

It is about the experience, not the brand itself.

It is not justifiable to put on a set of wheel that cost 15% of the car when the car was brand new, I went ahead anyway.
I'm curious what is the impact. Turn out to be super satisfying, and I'm asking for more!

Now I know if one day I can afford the Porsche, I know I will pick PCCB and upgrade BBS/IPE/Manthey Racing wheel. I sorta know how to expect, it is a never ending learning/exploration process.
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post Jan 31 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jan 31 2024, 02:36 PM)
That’s also because you have the skills to exploit the potential of the car bro.

I just enjoy the cruise and imagine how it would have been like if I had the money 25 years ago … as opposed to being moneyed now
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Well by the time I can afford one, it will be approaching my retirement age.

I once heard from a well distinguished gentlemen, look at the distinctive life quality I have now but I can never imagine driving a BMW at young age 17-18.

Is that sad? At least there is still hope and I still can make it.

The goal is stay healthy and maintain body shape to crawl in/out of those sport carsss when I'm 80yo. rclxs0.gif





 

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