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Avangelice
post May 27 2025, 01:32 PM

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I wouldn't ride bikes or even drive in Vietnam. Their roads and drivers are worst than all asean counterparts
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post May 27 2025, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(jex-koi @ Jan 7 2025, 07:02 PM)
seems that thai accepts our malaysian driving license, although i can't find any black-and-white on this.

Making IDP is a breeze.

1. Pay online @ JPJ website (RM150)
2. bring the payment-receipt (or can email them at JPJ office on the spot) & a passport photo (white background! No more blue background)  to JPJ office. There is a special counter for online-applications (no need to take or use number system). 
3. Pass the passport-photo to the officer and wait for your name to be called.

Took me ~10 minutes in JPJ Petaling Jaya office today.
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thai accepted our driving license. one of the perks of ASEAN.

sos. me. road block twice in Thai.

but need PHYSICAL LICENSE. myJPJ app they dont want. some work around can use (print color;laminated both side) like the 90s license worked.

looks like only Vietnam wont accept local driving license.
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post May 27 2025, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(mobileoop @ May 27 2025, 12:37 PM)
I just asked Chat GPT. Malaysia License can not be used in Vietnam. Not even IDP 1949. We need IDP 1968 which is not issued by Malaysia shakehead.gif

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Here is the most accurate, up-to-date, and brutally honest answer for your situation as a Malaysian wanting to drive or ride a motorcycle in Vietnam (as of May 2025):

1. Malaysian License Alone is NOT Sufficient
Despite Vietnam being an ASEAN country and Malaysia being part of ASEAN, in practice, your Malaysian driving license alone is not reliably accepted by Vietnamese authorities for driving or riding a motorcycle. While there is an ASEAN agreement on mutual recognition of driving licenses, Vietnamese police and rental agencies almost always require more than just your Malaysian license, especially for tourists and short-term visitors. This is confirmed by multiple sources and recent traveler reports [source].

2. International Driving Permit (IDP) – Which Version?
Only the 1968 Vienna Convention IDP is officially recognized in Vietnam.
Malaysia issues IDPs under the 1949 Geneva Convention, not the 1968 Vienna Convention.
Therefore, a Malaysian-issued IDP is not officially valid in Vietnam, even though some rental shops may accept it informally. If you are stopped by police, you risk fines and your insurance will likely be invalid [source].

3. Translation/Certification?
Some people claim you can get your IDP or Malaysian license translated and certified at a Vietnamese notary or transport department. This is only possible if you are staying long-term (with a residence permit/visa over 3 months), and the process is bureaucratic and requires a lot of paperwork, including a Vietnamese translation certified by a notary or embassy. For tourists, this is impractical and rarely done [source].

4. What Actually Happens in Practice?
Tourists: Most tourists rent and ride bikes anyway, but this is technically illegal unless you have a Vietnamese license or a 1968 IDP. If you are stopped, you may be fined (up to 5 million VND, about RM 1,000), and your bike may be impounded. If you get into an accident, your travel insurance will almost certainly refuse to cover you if you do not have the correct license.
Police: Enforcement is inconsistent. In tourist hotspots (e.g., Ha Giang Loop, Hai Van Pass), police checkpoints are common and they do check for the 1968 IDP. In other areas, you may get away with a bribe or warning, but this is not guaranteed and is risky.

Rental Shops: Many rental shops will rent to you with just your Malaysian license or even no license, but this does not make it legal.

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Hi, just to clarify — I’m sharing this based on personal experience, not as a customer service officer.

At least now someone is finally looking into this, which is what I was trying to highlight in my earlier post.

Some people assume that their country’s driving license works everywhere in ASEAN — much like certain nations assume their licenses are universally accepted — without actually understanding the local laws.

But please, take the time to understand each country’s specific legal requirements.

As I mentioned earlier, you can print out whatever ASEAN agreements were signed online by the ASEAN Ministers of Transport, but try showing those to a traffic officer, rental company, or worse, when dealing with insurance claims — and see if it gets you anywhere. The rules are still what matter.

To drive legally in Vietnam, you at least need an International Driving Permit (IDP).

Back then, the process was really tedious — I had to go to the local Vietnam equivalent of JPJ (if you don’t have a runner, it’s even worse) to get registered under their system. If I remember correctly, it was expensive and took weeks to sort out. I eventually gave up and just used my IDP along with my home country’s license, and fortunately nothing happened.

Just a reminder: if you’re driving without valid legal documents, you won’t be covered under travel insurance.

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post May 28 2025, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 27 2025, 01:32 PM)
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I wouldn't ride bikes or even drive in Vietnam. Their roads and drivers are worst than all asean counterparts
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Agree. But certain places like Danang/Hoi An are better in term of traffic. I thought of travelling and riding Bike around Danang/Hoi An but it seems that there is no way for me to riding a bike legally in Vietnam
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QUOTE(gold member @ May 27 2025, 11:37 PM)
To drive legally in Vietnam, you at least need an International Driving Permit (IDP).

Back then, the process was really tedious — I had to go to the local Vietnam equivalent of JPJ (if you don’t have a runner, it’s even worse) to get registered under their system. If I remember correctly, it was expensive and took weeks to sort out. I eventually gave up and just used my IDP along with my home country’s license, and fortunately nothing happened.

Just a reminder: if you’re driving without valid legal documents, you won’t be covered under travel insurance.

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Well just for the sake of conversation and correcting, Malaysia's issued IDP is not legally recognised in Vietnam either.
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post May 29 2025, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 29 2025, 09:38 AM)
Well just for the sake of conversation and correcting, Malaysia's issued IDP is not legally recognised in Vietnam either.
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So this is a we problem or just a Vietnam bureaucracy issue?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 29 2025, 10:15 AM)
So this is a we problem or just a Vietnam bureaucracy issue?
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It's Vietnam bureaucracy issue.
Fortunately we look like Asian/Vietnamese, so riding hardly get into issue. Unless you don't look the part or got into accidents.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 29 2025, 11:36 AM)
It's Vietnam bureaucracy issue.
Fortunately we look like Asian/Vietnamese, so riding hardly get into issue. Unless you don't look the part or got into accidents.
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Protip if really die die wanna go ride motor and an adventurous road trip

I suggest going on the Mae Hong Son Loop. I'm thinking of taking this road trip loop after my Hokkaido loop is done
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post May 29 2025, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 29 2025, 10:15 AM)
So this is a we problem or just a Vietnam bureaucracy issue?
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Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit

If you check wikipedia, the are 3 types of IDP: 1929, 1949, 1968. You may ignore 1929 as only a few countries signed it.

Countries with 1949 only: Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Cambodia, Japan, USA, Australia, Canada, India, etc
Countries with 1968 only: Vietnam, Indonesia, Myanmar, Brazil, Pakistan, Costa Rica, etc
Countries with both: Thailand, Philippines, China, UK, Switzerland, Italy, Germany, etc

By right, ASEAN license can be used in anywhere within the ASEAN countries. But in reality, local enforcement is different and some countries (eg: Vietnam) don't recognise it.

IDP is just a temporary permit for tourists or short term foreigners to drive in the country. I feel that if tourism is a big contribution to the country GDP, the countries should have both 1949 and 1968 IDP. Why? It will provide convenience to tourists and temporary stay foreigners to drive locally and spend money. It will help the economy.

For example: Thailand and Philippines have both the IDP. They provides lots of convenience to foreigners/tourists. So, it helps in term of tourism.

If Malaysia government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1968 IDP only, Malaysia should sign 1968.
If Vietnam government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1949 IDP only, Vietnam should sign 1949.

But the problem is based on ChatGPT:-
The last country to accede to the 1949 Geneva Convention on Road Traffic was Zimbabwe, on 18 February 1991.
After the 1990s, almost all new accessions have been to the 1968 Vienna Convention, not the 1949 Geneva Convention.
The 1949 Convention is now considered “closed” in practice, with no new major signatories in recent decades.

Conclusion: Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP to provide convenience to tourists (1968 only) coming to Malaysia and for Malaysians going overseas
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 29 2025, 11:41 AM)
Protip if really die die wanna go ride motor and an adventurous road trip

I suggest going on the Mae Hong Son Loop. I'm thinking of taking this road trip loop after my Hokkaido loop is done
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Well I did Sapa, Hoi An, Dalat and Nha Trang renting motorbike 150cc. It was really great with the mobility and flexibility.

Generally I feel riding in Vietnam is a lot safer than in Malaysia because people there ride 35-40km/h max. However, the issue is when approaching junction need to be extremely careful.

I also passed by multiple roadblocks and I notice they tend to target angmos as these group standout from the crowd. 

This is not an advice - your mileage and riding experience may vary so do proceed with caution and you are at your own risk.

QUOTE(mobileoop @ May 29 2025, 12:12 PM)
Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit

If you check wikipedia, the are 3 types of IDP: 1929, 1949, 1968. You may ignore 1929 as only a few countries signed it.

Countries with 1949 only: Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Cambodia, Japan, USA, Australia, Canada, India, etc
Countries with 1968 only: Vietnam, Indonesia, Myanmar, Brazil, Pakistan, Costa Rica, etc
Countries with both: Thailand, Philippines, China, UK, Switzerland, Italy, Germany, etc

By right, ASEAN license can be used in anywhere within the ASEAN countries. But in reality, local enforcement is different and some countries (eg: Vietnam) don't recognise it.

IDP is just a temporary permit for tourists or short term foreigners to drive in the country. I feel that if tourism is a big contribution to the country GDP, the countries should have both 1949 and 1968 IDP. Why? It will provide convenience to tourists and temporary stay foreigners to drive locally and spend money. It will help the economy.

For example: Thailand and Philippines have both the IDP. They provides lots of convenience to foreigners/tourists. So, it helps in term of tourism.

If Malaysia government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1968 IDP only, Malaysia should sign 1968.
If Vietnam government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1949 IDP only, Vietnam should sign 1949.

But the problem is based on ChatGPT:-
The last country to accede to the 1949 Geneva Convention on Road Traffic was Zimbabwe, on 18 February 1991.
After the 1990s, almost all new accessions have been to the 1968 Vienna Convention, not the 1949 Geneva Convention.
The 1949 Convention is now considered “closed” in practice, with no new major signatories in recent decades.

Conclusion: Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP to provide convenience to tourists (1968 only) coming to Malaysia and for Malaysians going overseas
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Haha you should send a response to Anthony Loke ask him to consider this issue.

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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 29 2025, 02:25 PM)
Well I did Sapa, Hoi An, Dalat and Nha Trang renting motorbike 150cc. It was really great with the mobility and flexibility.

Generally I feel riding in Vietnam is a lot safer than in Malaysia because people there ride 35-40km/h max. However, the issue is when approaching junction need to be extremely careful.

I also passed by multiple roadblocks and I notice they tend to target angmos as these group standout from the crowd. 

This is not an advice - your mileage and riding experience may vary so do proceed with caution and you are at your own risk.
Haha you should send a response to Anthony Loke ask him to consider this issue.
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You ride without IDP? Do they check you at the roadblock? Kena saman?

I believe only Ministry of Tourism can convince Anthony. They probably need to conduct a feasible study on how much extra tourism income the IDP 1968 can bring to Malaysia. Then, need to go through parliament debate, etc etc. The execution is probably many months/years from now
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It's actually the IDP that gets converted into a document recognized by the Vietnamese authorities. If not, then what did I submit back then? It definitely wasn't just my Malaysian driving license.

This is the key point: "You need to comply with local laws."
Yes, ASEAN Ministers of Transport may have signed mutual agreements, but at the end of the day, compliance with local laws is still mandatory.

It’s not just Vietnam. This also applies to other ASEAN countries like Indonesia. I’ve shared my experience in previous posts. Countries like Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia (Kalimantan), and Thailand are directly connected to Malaysia, so they might recognize our license more readily — though I’m not 100% sure about Brunei, Kalimantan, or Thailand.

In practice, if nothing goes wrong (like an accident), some local enforcers might turn a blind eye — it's a grey area. But if something does happen, authorities will check your documents strictly. If you're not in full compliance, you could face penalties and also risk your travel insurance being void.

To be on the safe side, always verify with:

- Local transport authorities

- Your travel insurance provider

- The car/motorbike rental company (though they might not always give accurate info)

Better safe than sorry.

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QUOTE(mobileoop @ May 29 2025, 04:30 PM)
You ride without IDP? Do they check you at the roadblock? Kena saman?

I believe only Ministry of Tourism can convince Anthony. They probably need to conduct a feasible study on how much extra tourism income the IDP 1968 can bring to Malaysia. Then, need to go through parliament debate, etc etc. The execution is probably many months/years from now
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Yes I ride but with Malaysia issued IDP hoping to convince police if kena stopped. But so far haven't happened before. All smooth.
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QUOTE(mobileoop @ May 29 2025, 12:12 PM)
Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit

If you check wikipedia, the are 3 types of IDP: 1929, 1949, 1968. You may ignore 1929 as only a few countries signed it.

Countries with 1949 only: Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Cambodia, Japan, USA, Australia, Canada, India, etc
Countries with 1968 only: Vietnam, Indonesia, Myanmar, Brazil, Pakistan, Costa Rica, etc
Countries with both: Thailand, Philippines, China, UK, Switzerland, Italy, Germany, etc

By right, ASEAN license can be used in anywhere within the ASEAN countries. But in reality, local enforcement is different and some countries (eg: Vietnam) don't recognise it.

IDP is just a temporary permit for tourists or short term foreigners to drive in the country. I feel that if tourism is a big contribution to the country GDP, the countries should have both 1949 and 1968 IDP. Why? It will provide convenience to tourists and temporary stay foreigners to drive locally and spend money. It will help the economy.

For example: Thailand and Philippines have both the IDP. They provides lots of convenience to foreigners/tourists. So, it helps in term of tourism.

If Malaysia government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1968 IDP only, Malaysia should sign 1968.
If Vietnam government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1949 IDP only, Vietnam should sign 1949.

But the problem is based on ChatGPT:-
The last country to accede to the 1949 Geneva Convention on Road Traffic was Zimbabwe, on 18 February 1991.
After the 1990s, almost all new accessions have been to the 1968 Vienna Convention, not the 1949 Geneva Convention.
The 1949 Convention is now considered “closed” in practice, with no new major signatories in recent decades.

Conclusion: Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP to provide convenience to tourists (1968 only) coming to Malaysia and for Malaysians going overseas
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The above information is very useful - thank you.

I intend to drive in Indonesia.

From the list above, I noticed that Malaysia has signed the 1949 Geneva Convention IDP, but Indonesia signed the 1968 Vienna Convention IDP. Would our Msian IDP be accepted by the Indonesian police in the event of a roadblock ?

I wished to drive in Indonesia, on Flores Island and on the Maluku Islands.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 6 2025, 06:00 PM)
The above information is very useful - thank you.

I intend to drive in Indonesia.

From the list above, I noticed that Malaysia has signed the 1949 Geneva Convention IDP, but Indonesia signed the 1968 Vienna Convention IDP. Would our Msian IDP be accepted by the Indonesian police in the event of a roadblock ?

I wished to drive in Indonesia, on Flores Island and on the Maluku Islands.
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I went to Bali about 10 years ago and rode a motorcycle without IDP. Only used Malaysia Physical License. But, I didn't see any police roadblock when I was there for about 1 week though. I hope Indonesia recognises the ASEAN agreement more than Vietnam since Indonesia is driving on the left like Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand
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QUOTE(mobileoop @ Jun 18 2025, 10:03 AM)
I went to Bali about 10 years ago and rode a motorcycle without IDP. Only used Malaysia Physical License. But, I didn't see any police roadblock when I was there for about 1 week though. I hope Indonesia recognises the ASEAN agreement more than Vietnam since Indonesia is driving on the left like Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand
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Thank you, brother,... for taking the time to reply here,... ok. I think it's better to have both identifications,... but that's just me.

Don't have time to prove this out yet because I lost my chance to go to see Mt Lewotobi for now,... it just erupted.


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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 18 2025, 11:24 AM)
Thank you, brother,... for taking the time to reply here,... ok. I think it's better to have both identifications,... but that's just me.

Don't have time to prove this out yet because I lost my chance to go to see Mt Lewotobi for now,... it just erupted.
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No problem bro. Yes, both is better. But, if the police really tries to "drink coffee", he can find any excuse to trouble you

Ah... better safe than sorry. Maybe next year
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QUOTE(mobileoop @ Jun 20 2025, 08:16 AM)
No problem bro. Yes, both is better. But, if the police really tries to "drink coffee", he can find any excuse to trouble you

Ah... better safe than sorry. Maybe next year
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Yes,... I agree to ur first para,...

To ur second para,... I'm still thinking of going to Maumere,... to see the aftermath of the eruption. But I'm nervous that I might be stuck there because I need to do some imoprtant work in SG in July,... it's called the AGM Month for every year,... Following that,.. I am going to start my expedition to drive across Southern Europe and thru Eastern Europe.

So,... not risking it first. There will be other volcanoes erupting in Indonesia in future for which I can go to.

Tks again, bro,... we can talk more here.
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QUOTE(mobileoop @ Jun 20 2025, 08:16 AM)
Ah... better safe than sorry.
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Bro,.. if there is not eruption, there is nothing to see, right ??? We need an eruption for motivation to be there. We can buy equipment and do scientific observations there too,....
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QUOTE(tZZ @ Sep 13 2023, 12:59 PM)
This is incorrect; it depends on the state that you are renting the car from.
The IDP requirement depends on the state as USA DMV is within state jurisdiction and not federal.
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It is true its state jurisdiction and not federal.
However as tourist and not long term stayers those states do not require IDP.






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