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Icehart
post Sep 13 2023, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 12:18 PM)
Nope they can’t reject. As stated above ASEAN countries agreed to recognize each other’s domestic driving licenses

The agreement:
https://agreement.asean.org/media/download/...61129035137.pdf
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Lol you must be the one never kena stopped by police before

I kena once at Pattaya police roadblock riding bike, kena stopped and show my Malaysia driving license. not recognised. straight on the spot rampas passport and settle balai polis 500b with official receipt. Dun believe me? Call Malaysia embassy and say ur passport confiscated because they issue fine for driving with Malaysia license. The embassy people will advise you to just pay the fine.

Driving in Phuket/Hatyai with MY license is ok.
Northern like Chiang Mai/Udon better dun risk it.

Also Vietnam is also part of ASEAN. Good luck riding bike with Malaysia license there laugh.gif Either you cough up 250k-500k dong or prepare to sit in jail and deal with bureaucracy with the rental company because their motorbike impounded.

This post has been edited by Icehart: Sep 13 2023, 03:13 PM
Icehart
post Sep 13 2023, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 03:41 PM)
Sorry to hear of your bad luck, i’ve been stopped few times before by police no issue. So the fine of 500b is because you did not have IDP?
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Yah don't know bad luck or what
Phuket/Hatyai is ok. I stopped by police more than 10 times ok, no problem.
Only problem is when u go northern. I think the police there don't know how to read English. So just fine straight if no IDP. I see they holding one piece of whitepaper with IDP picture with what to check for in Thai words.
Icehart
post Sep 13 2023, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 04:16 PM)
I guess really bad luck. They cannot fine you for that, the ASEAN agreement recognises your malaysian license in thailand. Probably easier to just pay the fine. Vietnam wasn't part of the ASEAN agreement (in 1985) so that's why an IDP is required but it didnt stop me from renting a bike (though I did not have a run in with police in vietnam).
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Yeah 500b to pay the fine and keep the receipt so cannot fine again.

I also printed this: https://agreement.asean.org/media/download/...40119161921.pdf
But when go Vietnam and show this letter even the bike rental advise try to avoid police as much as possible. They will text if got police roadblock. But don't let this hinder everyone, Vietnam is such an amazing country to do bike tour. biggrin.gif
Icehart
post May 29 2025, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(gold member @ May 27 2025, 11:37 PM)
To drive legally in Vietnam, you at least need an International Driving Permit (IDP).

Back then, the process was really tedious — I had to go to the local Vietnam equivalent of JPJ (if you don’t have a runner, it’s even worse) to get registered under their system. If I remember correctly, it was expensive and took weeks to sort out. I eventually gave up and just used my IDP along with my home country’s license, and fortunately nothing happened.

Just a reminder: if you’re driving without valid legal documents, you won’t be covered under travel insurance.

Ignorant is a bliss- peace!
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Well just for the sake of conversation and correcting, Malaysia's issued IDP is not legally recognised in Vietnam either.
Icehart
post May 29 2025, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 29 2025, 10:15 AM)
So this is a we problem or just a Vietnam bureaucracy issue?
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It's Vietnam bureaucracy issue.
Fortunately we look like Asian/Vietnamese, so riding hardly get into issue. Unless you don't look the part or got into accidents.
Icehart
post May 29 2025, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 29 2025, 11:41 AM)
Protip if really die die wanna go ride motor and an adventurous road trip

I suggest going on the Mae Hong Son Loop. I'm thinking of taking this road trip loop after my Hokkaido loop is done
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Well I did Sapa, Hoi An, Dalat and Nha Trang renting motorbike 150cc. It was really great with the mobility and flexibility.

Generally I feel riding in Vietnam is a lot safer than in Malaysia because people there ride 35-40km/h max. However, the issue is when approaching junction need to be extremely careful.

I also passed by multiple roadblocks and I notice they tend to target angmos as these group standout from the crowd. 

This is not an advice - your mileage and riding experience may vary so do proceed with caution and you are at your own risk.

QUOTE(mobileoop @ May 29 2025, 12:12 PM)
Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit

If you check wikipedia, the are 3 types of IDP: 1929, 1949, 1968. You may ignore 1929 as only a few countries signed it.

Countries with 1949 only: Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Cambodia, Japan, USA, Australia, Canada, India, etc
Countries with 1968 only: Vietnam, Indonesia, Myanmar, Brazil, Pakistan, Costa Rica, etc
Countries with both: Thailand, Philippines, China, UK, Switzerland, Italy, Germany, etc

By right, ASEAN license can be used in anywhere within the ASEAN countries. But in reality, local enforcement is different and some countries (eg: Vietnam) don't recognise it.

IDP is just a temporary permit for tourists or short term foreigners to drive in the country. I feel that if tourism is a big contribution to the country GDP, the countries should have both 1949 and 1968 IDP. Why? It will provide convenience to tourists and temporary stay foreigners to drive locally and spend money. It will help the economy.

For example: Thailand and Philippines have both the IDP. They provides lots of convenience to foreigners/tourists. So, it helps in term of tourism.

If Malaysia government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1968 IDP only, Malaysia should sign 1968.
If Vietnam government wants to attract tourists from Countries with 1949 IDP only, Vietnam should sign 1949.

But the problem is based on ChatGPT:-
The last country to accede to the 1949 Geneva Convention on Road Traffic was Zimbabwe, on 18 February 1991.
After the 1990s, almost all new accessions have been to the 1968 Vienna Convention, not the 1949 Geneva Convention.
The 1949 Convention is now considered “closed” in practice, with no new major signatories in recent decades.

Conclusion: Malaysia government should sign the 1968 IDP to provide convenience to tourists (1968 only) coming to Malaysia and for Malaysians going overseas
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Haha you should send a response to Anthony Loke ask him to consider this issue.

Icehart
post Jun 2 2025, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(mobileoop @ May 29 2025, 04:30 PM)
You ride without IDP? Do they check you at the roadblock? Kena saman?

I believe only Ministry of Tourism can convince Anthony. They probably need to conduct a feasible study on how much extra tourism income the IDP 1968 can bring to Malaysia. Then, need to go through parliament debate, etc etc. The execution is probably many months/years from now
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Yes I ride but with Malaysia issued IDP hoping to convince police if kena stopped. But so far haven't happened before. All smooth.

 

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