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Icehart
post Sep 13 2023, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 12:18 PM)
Nope they can’t reject. As stated above ASEAN countries agreed to recognize each other’s domestic driving licenses

The agreement:
https://agreement.asean.org/media/download/...61129035137.pdf
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Lol you must be the one never kena stopped by police before

I kena once at Pattaya police roadblock riding bike, kena stopped and show my Malaysia driving license. not recognised. straight on the spot rampas passport and settle balai polis 500b with official receipt. Dun believe me? Call Malaysia embassy and say ur passport confiscated because they issue fine for driving with Malaysia license. The embassy people will advise you to just pay the fine.

Driving in Phuket/Hatyai with MY license is ok.
Northern like Chiang Mai/Udon better dun risk it.

Also Vietnam is also part of ASEAN. Good luck riding bike with Malaysia license there laugh.gif Either you cough up 250k-500k dong or prepare to sit in jail and deal with bureaucracy with the rental company because their motorbike impounded.

This post has been edited by Icehart: Sep 13 2023, 03:13 PM
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post Sep 13 2023, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 01:09 PM)
So do tell us sir, which states do not allow?
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Google lor. Nah here

https://www.rhinocarhire.com/Car-Hire-Blog/...permit-USA.aspx


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post Sep 13 2023, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 13 2023, 03:12 PM)
Lol you must be the one never kena stopped by police before

I kena once at Pattaya police roadblock riding bike, kena stopped and show my Malaysia driving license. not recognised. straight on the spot rampas passport and settle balai polis 500b with official receipt. Dun believe me? Call Malaysia embassy and say ur passport confiscated because they issue fine for driving with Malaysia license. The embassy people will advise you to just pay the fine.

Driving in Phuket/Hatyai with MY license is ok.
Northern like Chiang Mai/Udon better dun risk it.

Also Vietnam is also part of ASEAN. Good luck riding bike with Malaysia license there  laugh.gif Either you cough up 250k-500k dong or prepare to sit in jail and deal with bureaucracy with the rental company because their motorbike impounded.
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Sorry to hear of your bad luck, i’ve been stopped few times before by police no issue. So the fine of 500b is because you did not have IDP?


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post Sep 13 2023, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(tZZ @ Sep 13 2023, 03:18 PM)
Well this is interesting. I lived in one of the states mentioned for 3 years and got stopped by police a couple of times. Maybe police and dmv are not working together lol

I would still not recommend getting an IDP for renting a car in the US. If you look at the major car rental companies, almost all do not require an IDP unless your government-issued license isn't in English. Lookup quora/reddit also you can see many do not recommend getting one and it's a waste of money.

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post Sep 13 2023, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 03:41 PM)
Sorry to hear of your bad luck, i’ve been stopped few times before by police no issue. So the fine of 500b is because you did not have IDP?
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Yah don't know bad luck or what
Phuket/Hatyai is ok. I stopped by police more than 10 times ok, no problem.
Only problem is when u go northern. I think the police there don't know how to read English. So just fine straight if no IDP. I see they holding one piece of whitepaper with IDP picture with what to check for in Thai words.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 13 2023, 04:11 PM)
Yah don't know bad luck or what
Phuket/Hatyai is ok. I stopped by police more than 10 times ok, no problem.
Only problem is when u go northern. I think the police there don't know how to read English. So just fine straight if no IDP. I see they holding one piece of whitepaper with IDP picture with what to check for in Thai words.
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I guess really bad luck. They cannot fine you for that, the ASEAN agreement recognises your malaysian license in thailand. Probably easier to just pay the fine. Vietnam wasn't part of the ASEAN agreement (in 1985) so that's why an IDP is required but it didnt stop me from renting a bike (though I did not have a run in with police in vietnam).

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 04:16 PM)
I guess really bad luck. They cannot fine you for that, the ASEAN agreement recognises your malaysian license in thailand. Probably easier to just pay the fine. Vietnam wasn't part of the ASEAN agreement (in 1985) so that's why an IDP is required but it didnt stop me from renting a bike (though I did not have a run in with police in vietnam).
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Yeah 500b to pay the fine and keep the receipt so cannot fine again.

I also printed this: https://agreement.asean.org/media/download/...40119161921.pdf
But when go Vietnam and show this letter even the bike rental advise try to avoid police as much as possible. They will text if got police roadblock. But don't let this hinder everyone, Vietnam is such an amazing country to do bike tour. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 14 2023, 07:58 AM

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For peace of mind, just apply for it… when on holiday, the last thing I want to be doing is to be arguing with the local cops about what the ASEAN charter allows or disallows… especially if the local police are actually out to cari makan….
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post Sep 14 2023, 09:44 AM

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IDL is just a language translation document.
Our DL is in English, so most country can understand that hence no need to translate.
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Just pay RM150 for a peace of mind. Different countries different laws. You may argue with the police about the ASEAN agreement in a road block.
I have been to Indonesia and Vietnam (their) JPJ. In Indonesia's JPJ, it's stated clearly about this ASEAN agreement.
If you read carefully, it's mentioned for "temporary stay".
And in a road block, these enforcers sometimes would not listen to you and they have many reasons to fine you.
Vietnam JPJ when I went there many years ago is very old school type, everything manual, not computerized yet.
Well, one can argue that when you rent a vehicle from the rental company, it's allowed blah blah blah.
Let me tell you they just want to rent out their vehicle. Whatever happens on the road is not their problems.
Remember that whenever you rent a car you need to sign an agreement, please read that agreement.
Ignorant is a bliss.
Thing is, one can take chances but once get into accident, even can argue that the rental company let you rent the car but that is with a foremost condition, valid driving license.
I do not think that one's life is as cheap.
I read up a bit about using Malaysian license to drive in Indonesia, it says that the person has to make report at the nearest JPJ (Satpas SIM terdekat).
To make thing easy, it's better to get a piece of paper than sorry.
Other than just a piece of paper/ booklet can cost RM150 per year, one need to follow each country's laws.
To properly driving in Vietnam, the minimum document is IDL but this does not mean you can drive legally. You need to convert so called this IDL to their local Tieng Viet Driving license.
Just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Sep 13 2023, 10:14 AM)
The only countries I know that need IDP are just japan and korea

Almost everywhere else no need
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The reason for IDL is just for translation purposes. Depending on the country you are going, the written language on your driving license may not be understood by the law enforcement from that countries hence need IDL. Since our driving license is in BM & English, most ppl can understand except maybe Japan and Korea.
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QUOTE(creations @ Sep 12 2023, 10:47 PM)
Hi all,

I intend to apply international license for vehicle ride at Thailand.

FYI, I have applied the IDP from jpj mysikap website, and already made the payment, receipt has been issued, and the website told me to go to JPJ to handle for the next step. I'm not sure anything I have skipped at this point.

Any required documents I need to prepare before I proceed to JPJ branch to proceed the next step? Anyone who has experience about this, can enlighten me about this?

Thank you.
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No need international license jn Thailand lah bro. I drove there multiple times. Learn the agreement between all asean countries
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post Apr 9 2024, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 8 2024, 11:57 PM)
No need international license jn Thailand lah bro. I drove there multiple times. Learn the agreement between all asean countries
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haha.. no choice. the car rental company wants my international license before the car get rented, so I have to get the license issued for them biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(creations @ Apr 9 2024, 02:20 AM)
haha.. no choice. the car rental company wants my international license before the car get rented, so I have to get the license issued for them biggrin.gif
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which car company? I always used Budget Car Rental Thailand.
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post Apr 9 2024, 09:33 AM

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sometimes yes u can get ur rennted car n all goes well is ok.
worry is if got accident then insurance gona play a game then it's hassle..better get 1
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Sep 12 2023, 11:42 PM)
Plot twist. Our driver license is recognized throughout whole of ASEAN.

There is an agreement to this, as long as there is English translation (which we already have), then it is recognized & valid.

I've used it to rent cars in Thailand.
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In Philippines, it is recognized up to 90 days only
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 9 2024, 10:04 AM)
In Philippines, it is recognized up to 90 days only
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The validity period of your visa
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Apr 9 2024, 11:01 AM)
The validity period of your visa
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I see. Apparently this is even for PR. They encourage you to change to theirs if driving more than that
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 9 2024, 08:41 AM)
which car company? I always used Budget Car Rental Thailand.
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The name called north wheel. The best part I booked this that I can start rent my car at Chiang Rai, and return back the car at Chiang Mai as they have branch over there too.
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Can we use the JPJ app to show softcopy during car rental etc. or still need the physical card? Tho I have the expired one..
How about during a roadblock aboard?


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