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post Oct 22 2007, 11:51 AM, updated 19y ago

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PSP-2000 (Slim n Lite) Thread

Welcome all Onwers and potential buyers of the new PSP

Use this thread to :

* Ask anything about PSP Slim
* Post any Problems/errors/glitches encountered
* Contribute solutions about PSP Slim
* Post ur user experience/opinions/reviews on ur PSP Slim
* Discuss about PSP Slim Firmwares (OFW, 3.60, 3.71)
* Recommended Places/Shops to purchase accessories
* Reviews on PSP Slim accesories (case, TV-out cable etc etc)
* anything realted to PSP 2000



PSP 2000 F.A.Q. list (taken from sony)
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What is the model number of the PSP Slim & Lite?

The series model number for the PSP Slim & Lite system is PSP-2000.


How big is PSP Slim & Lite?

The dimensions for the new PSP are:
Height: 71.4mm (compared to 74.0mm)
Width: 170mm
Thickness: 18.6mm (compared to 23.0mm)

The PSP Slim & Lite is 19% thinner than the original PSP.


How much does PSP Slim & Lite weigh?

It weights just 189g. That's about 70g less, or 33% lighter, than the original PSP.


Does PSP Slim & Lite have a smaller screen?

No, the PSP LCD screen size remains the same at an impressive 4.3 inches (16:9) / 480 x 272 pixels.


Does PSP Slim & Lite have a smaller battery?

Although the physical size of the battery in the PSP Slim & Lite system is smaller, you will get the same battery life for gaming, movies and other functionality as you did with its predecessor.


Can I charge PSP Slim & Lite with a USB connection?

Yes, you can charge the PSP Slim & Lite from your PS3 or PC via a USB cable when it is in "USB Connection" mode.


How much memory does PSP Slim & Lite have?

The internal memory capacity of the PSP is doubled in the Slim & Lite system to 64Mb.


Will loading times be reduced?

PSP Slim & Lite is equipped with more internal memory and an enhanced feature to temporarily store game data from UMD. Although the effect will vary between titles, you should find that load times are generally reduced during game play.


Does the PSP Slim & Lite have a video out port?

Yes, the PSP Slim & Lite has a port that will allow you to output games, UMD movies, pictures and other media in standard resolution (4:3) and widescreen (16:9) to your TV.

Once your PSP Slim & Lite is connected via the appropriate cable (see below) to your TV, go to Settings > Connected Display Settings to switch the output between your TV and PSP.

The maximum resolution for viewing external video is 640 x 480 pixels.


What cables are required for TV and video output?

If you have a progressive-scan enabled TV, you will need a Component cable. The Component cable supports all PSP content.

If you have an interlace-scan TV, you will need an AV or Composite cable. The Composite cable supports all PSP content, with the exception of game content.

A Composite AV cable:

Important note:
These cables are specifically for use with PSP Slim & Lite. When you purchase them you will need to check to make sure that they are compatible with PSP Slim & Lite and have the correct connector. They will not work with the original PSP.

PSP Slim & Lite cable connector:

Cables are sold separately.

So I can view PSP games on a TV using video out?

Yes, but you will need to use a Component cable (sold separately) (see above) to view games played using PSP Slim & Lite on a progressive-scan enabled TV.

You will not be able to view games on an interlace-scan TV or with an original PSP.


Will my existing PSP headphones work with the Slim & Lite?

To use your existing PSP headphones with PSP Slim & Lite, you will need to disconnect them from the remote control cable and plug them directly into the headphone socket. Fully compatible headphones will be released soon.

You will be able to use standard stereo headphones with PSP Slim & Lite.


Will the new GPS and Camera, in-car cradle and microphone peripherals work with the Slim & Lite?

Yes, the GPS, camera, in-car cradle and microphone peripherals are compatible with both versions of the PSP.


What official peripherals will be available for the PSP Slim & Lite?

In addition to the peripherals mentioned above, you will be able to purchase the following peripherals for use with the PSP Slim & Lite in SCEE regions:
- 1200mAH Lithium ion rechargeable battery
- In-ear headphones with remote control
- Composite AV cable (2.5m)
- Component AV cable (2.5m)

Unofficial
- Crystal case
- Silicone case
- screen protectors
- 2400mAh battery


What colours will the PSP Slim & Lite be available in?

The PSP Slim & Lite will be available in the following colours:
- Piano black
- Ceramic white

What other differences are there between the original PSP and the new Slim & Lite version?

The Memory Stick Duo slot position has changed from the lower-left side of the unit to the upper-left side.
The front speaker positions have changed from being level with the lower edge of the LCD screen to level with the upper edge of the screen.
The latch for opening the UMD tray has been removed.
The infra-red IrDA port has been removed.

This post has been edited by fariq_azad: Oct 22 2007, 11:55 AM
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post Oct 22 2007, 11:57 AM

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if i were to connect the psp lite to a lcd tv that it able to upscale the reslution of up to 1080i would the pics form PSP lite be nice? say outputting at i think most 720P?

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post Oct 22 2007, 11:57 AM

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This is very important. If you're running 3.71 M33, don't use, I repeat don't use USB function to flash either your flash0 or flash1 nand either in the recovery menu or xmb. You'll end up corrupting your nand partitions and even worst your idstorage.

The most important thing for all PSP Slim & Lite owners....BACKUP YOUR NAND FLASH. This can be done with Despertar_cementerio v3 or nandTool or upNand64 and keep it in a very safe place. You won't know when you'll need it.

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 11:57 AM)
This is very important. If you're running 3.71 M33, don't use, I repeat don't use USB function to flash either your flash0 or flash1 nand either in the recovery menu or xmb. You'll end up corrupting your nand partitions and even worst your idstorage.

The most important thing for all PSP Slim & Lite owners....BACKUP YOUR NAND FLASH. This can be don't with Despertar_cementerio v3 or nandTool or upNand64 and keep it in a very safe place. You won't know when you'll need it.
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Thanx for the Warning tot31 thumbup.gif

I've done some googling and found out that accessing recovery menu on 3.60 M33 will also brick it... is this true?
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post Oct 22 2007, 12:45 PM

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got my unit yesterday piano black as a belated birthday gift
- i find the web browser too slow
- the free hori screen protector not fitting very well
- true about the fingerprints magnet - i find the unit catches stain/oil too much its everywhere
- not really enjoying the 'demo' games i got - i feel like the need to look for simpler type of games - maybe im just inclined to sports type games

i've google around but no clue how to backup the nandflash - any help to us noobie. want to know more bout homebrew but again googling around making me more confused - truly a psp noobie lol
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post Oct 22 2007, 01:29 PM

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just got my psp slim from bernard too last 2 weeks D:
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Hi, one of my fren bought his psp slim and brick it on the same day without knowing it.

May i know what is the caused of it because i do not want to repeat his steps.

He bought in the morning. Test ok before back home. When back at his house, he try to turn on the psp. Power green light up for 5 to 10 sec. No display on screen and finally power lights off. I was with my fren when he bought it. No Drop, No firmware flash, and No loading of any games.
I was shock to see this.

I think i saw a post where someone is selling off a brick white psp slim in lyn too. The reason, install theme is the caused. Will it be the same reason where my fren's psp are also having the same fate?

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post Oct 22 2007, 02:27 PM

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There's a bug actually in 3.71 M33 corrupting the nand flash if you try to write to it via usb connection. Normally people who wanted to mod their themes will try to access the flash0 folder to copy the files there via usb. This bug is due to SONY's new protection scheme on the slims...hahahaha way to go SONY. rclxms.gif

Have you ever heard of nand or idstorage corruption on the old fat? The answer is no. The easiest way to backup your nand flash is by using a Pandora Battery and DA's DC v3. The backup will be named as nand-dump.bin into your MS. It will backup all 4096 blocks of the 64M nand flash.

I've already backup mine thumbup.gif ...how about you guys? Better safe than later crying here to get help.

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Hmm, tot, I tried to fit the normal fat battery into a slim, it's tight and the connector doesn't touch. Can't switch it on. Mind telling us how u did it? Or did u use original Sony 1800mAH Battery?
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Anyone of you who are getting the new slim, make sure before you ask the shop to update to 3.71 M33 CFW, backup the nand flash of 3.60 OFW first and then you copy the file into your thumbdrive or what ever external storage you have.


Added on October 22, 2007, 2:49 pm
QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Oct 22 2007, 02:45 PM)
Hmm, tot, I tried to fit the normal fat battery into a slim, it's tight and the connector doesn't touch. Can't switch it on. Mind telling us how u did it? Or did u use original Sony 1800mAH Battery?
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You must press it a bit hard to get it into the battery slot. I'm using SONY original 1800mAH Battery. Don't use third party/chaplang/cap chicken or clone batteries to make a Pandora Battery, same as the magic stick. Use original SONY MSPD.

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QUOTE(kimi @ Oct 22 2007, 12:45 PM)
got my unit yesterday piano black as a belated birthday gift
- i find the web browser too slow
- the free hori screen protector not fitting very well
- true about the fingerprints magnet - i find the unit catches stain/oil too much its everywhere
- not really enjoying the 'demo' games i got - i feel like the need to look for simpler type of games - maybe im just inclined to sports type games

i've google around but no clue how to backup the nandflash - any help to us noobie.  want to know more bout homebrew but again googling around making me more confused - truly a psp noobie lol
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Well, happy birthday. rclxms.gif
- Web browser is slow because it's using 802.11b instead of the 802.11b/g protocol.
- 3rd-party screen protector, I suppose? smile.gif
- It's been this way since the very beginning.
- Sports games? There are a lot of them waiting for you to try out (Tiger Woods PGA Tour (any year), Winning Eleven 9/Pro Evolution Soccer 6 and loads more)
- I suppose you can back your NAND up by using Pandora Battery.
QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 02:27 PM)
...The easiest way to backup your nand flash is by using a Pandora Battery and DA's DC v3. The backup will be named as nand-dump.bin into your MS. It will backup all 4096 blocks of the 64M nand flash...

* Pandora Battery is something that can bring a dead (bricked) PSP back alive.
* NAND flash contains your PSP's vital details, such as MAC address, serial number, etc. which is also called IDstorage
* DA is Dark-AleX, one of the greatest developers in the PSP homebrew scene.
* DC v3 is Despertar del Cementerio V3 which is a universal unbricker for the PSP.

For more information about homebrew, check them out at:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/408755/

For news and updates:
http://pspupdates.qj.net/
http://www.psp-hacks.com/

QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 02:27 PM)
...Better safe than later crying here to get help...
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...and probably getting none? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 02:27 PM)
There's a bug actually in 3.71 M33 corrupting the nand flash if you try to write to it via usb connection.
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howabout just changing the wall papers? is this also considered writing to flash?

My PSP Slim is ver 3.60 M33...

I guess i'll stay at this version for awhile... sweat.gif

currently looking for a nice Case to protect it.

would you guys recommend silicone or crystal?
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QUOTE(fariq_azad @ Oct 22 2007, 03:28 PM)
howabout just changing the wall papers? is this also considered writing to flash?

My PSP Slim is ver 3.60 M33...

I guess i'll stay at this version for awhile... sweat.gif

currently looking for a nice Case to protect it.

would you guys recommend silicone or crystal?
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Changing wallpaper is safe as it writes to flash1 from MSPD not via usb.

I'm using a silicone protector. Tried the crystal case but really don't like it seems it becomes a bit heavier...
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 03:32 PM)
Changing wallpaper is safe as it writes to flash1 from MSPD not via usb.

I'm using a silicone protector. Tried the crystal case but really don't like it seems it becomes a bit heavier...
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1.how bout changing the theme on 3.71 M33? there is a theme setting where noobs like me can change the theme easily.
?

2. U mean transfering theme file to Flash 1 folder > VSH > theme will also brick the slims?

I'm having one slim but scare to touch the theme setting after my frens incident. Already into 3.71 M33 ...did not manage to get my nand flash? am i still able to get it?

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Heres My mini review :

Practical Usage Comparison between PSP fat and PSP Slim

I just got my PSP 2000 (piano black) 2 days ago and here are my first impressions.


Compared to the fat PSP the slim PSP seems a little too light for comfort. maybe its just me but with my old fat PSP (wrapped in capdase silicone case) I used to be more carefree and did not worry about dropping it. With the PSP Lite my hands automatically readjusts and handle it more lightly. (coz it seems more fragile)

Yes the back of the PSP Slim is a fingerprint magnet so im gonna have to cover it up soon.

I've noticed that the D-pad on the PSP-Slim has been improved to allow better diagonal movements compared to the fat PSP which was very hard to play diagonal movements.

Battery life on the PSP slim is quite amazing since even though the battery is smaller it still last just as long.

I welcome the USB charge feature so that I dont have use the 2 in 1 charge cable anymore.

for now ver 1.5 homebrews dont work so my emulator usage is pretty limited to the ones that can run on \GAME340 folders

Playing ISO's without UMDs so far so good and running PSX games are fine biggrin.gif (playing GT2 and rival schools)

ok thats all for now.

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QUOTE(ben5173 @ Oct 22 2007, 03:41 PM)
1.how bout changing the theme on 3.71 M33? there is a theme setting where noobs like me can change the theme easily.
?

2. U mean transfering theme file to Flash 1 folder > VSH > theme will also brick the slims?

I'm having one slim but scare to touch the theme setting after my frens incident. Already into 3.71 M33 ...did not manage to get my  nand flash? am i still able to get it?

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As long as you don't touch flash0falsh1 via usb you are safe. You still can make backup of your nand flash even though you already updated to 3.71 M33. The most important is to backup the nand flash while it is still in a working condition no matter on what FW you're on. I did mine on 3.71 M33-2 CFW.
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 03:48 PM)
As long as you don't touch flash0falsh1 via usb you are safe. You still can make backup of your nand flash even though you already updated to 3.71 M33. The most important is to backup the nand flash while it is still in a working condition no matter on what FW you're on. I did mine on 3.71 M33-2 CFW.
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I'm still new in this, it would be great if there is a step by step guide and *potential risk for doing a backup of nand flash.

i used to have a fat psp before but psp slims are too new for me. If i was not mistaken, theme file are store in flash1 ? or MSPD?
If MSPD, when i wanted to change theme, it will read from MSPD and copied into flash1? (i think my fren's psp brick because of this)

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QUOTE(ben5173 @ Oct 22 2007, 03:55 PM)
I'm still new in this, it would be great if there is a step by step guide and *potential risk for doing a backup of nand flash.

i used to have a fat psp before but psp slims are too new for me. If i was not mistaken, theme file are store in flash1 ? or MSPD?
If MSPD, when i wanted to change theme, it will read from MSPD and copied into flash1? (i think my fren's psp brick because of this)

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All the ptf themes are safe as they are offcially supported. The unsupported themes involving flashing some .prx / .rco files to the flash1/flash0 folders via usb. These themes are dangerous.

Your friend's psp brick because he flashed some files via usb to flash1...I don't believe it will brick with no reason..


Added on October 22, 2007, 4:02 pmIf you're too lazy to make Magic Stick and Pandora Battery, just go to any game shop that have expertise or have Pandora Battery and DC v3 and ask them to dump your nandflash and copy it from their mspd to your thumbdrive.

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Oct 22 2007, 03:59 PM)
All the ptf themes are safe as they are offcially supported. The unsupported themes involving flashing some .prx / .rco files to the flash1/flash0 folders via usb. These themes are dangerous.

Your friend's psp brick because he flashed some files via usb to flash1...I don't believe it will brick with no reason..


Added on October 22, 2007, 4:02 pmIf you're too lazy to make Magic Stick and Pandora Battery, just go to any game shop that have expertise or have Pandora Battery and DC v3 and ask them to dump your nandflash and copy it from their mspd to your thumbdrive.
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yeah~ i was going to do tat.~ Thx in advance for ur precious advice~! notworthy.gif


To be frank, i'm with my fren all the time. Starting from he bought the psp and went home with him. Did not even open the psp after sticking the hori protector. once home, just power on for the first time, and it so called bricked. Power led still on, but no display. Few seconds later, poer led went off.
Tested on the spot, everythings fine. The last thing done on that psp is changing the theme from a collection of theme (not via usb, no usb attach). Then power off and proceed to screen protector.
I would really like to know the caused. if anyone knows anything about it.
The most answered reply would be "It is impossible not to touch on the flashing or software and bricked." but it was so true. Unit is totally new.
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QUOTE(ben5173 @ Oct 22 2007, 04:11 PM)
yeah~ i was going to do tat.~

To be frank, i'm with my fren all the time. Starting from he bought the psp and went home with him. Did not even open the psp after sticking the hori protector. once home, just power on for the first time, and it so called bricked. Power led still on, but no display. Few seconds later, poer led went off.
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may be your friend bought a brick psp.... smile.gif

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