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kochin
post Aug 21 2023, 02:04 PM

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for landed strata, is the management responsible for any leakages from external walls and roof?
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post Aug 21 2023, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Aug 21 2023, 02:00 PM)
Questions - Who does:

1. Sampah collection (local council)
2. Repair / resurface roads (within prescient handle by JMB)
3. Repair water pipe leakage underground (outside your house handle by JMB, within your compound handle by yourself)
4. Cut grass (JMB only maintain landscape, within your house if got small plot of land, you need to maintain)
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post Aug 21 2023, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Aug 21 2023, 02:00 PM)
Questions - Who does:

1. Sampah collection
2. Repair / resurface roads
3. Repair water pipe leakage underground
4. Cut grass
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Strata title.... all this the MC will take over.
which mean additional cost to be paid by owner.


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post Aug 21 2023, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 21 2023, 02:04 PM)
for landed strata, is the management responsible for any leakages from external walls and roof?
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Bear by owner after warranty period, even repaint the exterior wall of whole house also bear by owner.

The sinking fund is purely for infra and facilities
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post Aug 21 2023, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Aug 21 2023, 12:57 PM)
strate - many more guards, can have apps to register vsitors, when u away can make sure guards come ur house ronda more frequently

and prevent others from leeching by not paying monthly fees, every house needs to pay so its fair

downside, pay until hamkachan still need to pay
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wanna have more security, wanna be more premium, wanna have nice landscape, wanna enforce a lot of rule...
then gotto pay more loh.

as you said- everyone need to pay so it is fair.

but many time as i see, every owner have different need/view on how the money is to be spend. yes they can vote or suggest to MC.
it will never please every one.

so people will have a feeling that his/her money went for things he dont want/no value.


one example was my previous taman..... during AGM they have some simple food + 1 kambing golek.
nothing lavish la, just to get people together, be merry build rapport..... but some resident also eye red say ham ka chan waste my fvcking money

always hard to please the world
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Aug 21 2023, 02:09 PM)
Strata title.... all this the MC will take over.
which mean additional cost to be paid by owner.
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For my house under strata title, still need to pay for cukai tafsiran and cukai tanah.

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post Aug 21 2023, 02:18 PM

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My house is landed strata also. Maintenance fee only rm100/month, maybe due to higher density(600 units). But I can see that it is quite peaceful in the housing area. Properly maintained and does not have pet littering on your house compound. Downside is only the renovation limitation, cannot do much in front of the house(back is allowed to extend)
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post Aug 21 2023, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(kem96 @ Aug 21 2023, 02:18 PM)
My house is landed strata also. Maintenance fee only rm100/month, maybe due to higher density(600 units). But I can see that it is quite peaceful in the housing area. Properly maintained and does not have pet littering on your house compound. Downside is only the renovation limitation, cannot do much in front of the house(back is allowed to extend)
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well... good to hear so. it is really depend on the efficiency of the MC, and the mentality of the tenant.

one example on the other far extreme is Palm Spring KD..... despite strata with MC, that place is like Sh1T
guard just sit there, log book no one care,
parking dirty, facilities destroyed, lift not working.

in short- many unit dont pay maintenance fee, dont know how they sustain, until collapse.
similar situation in many many other condo as well.
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post Aug 21 2023, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 21 2023, 02:04 PM)
for landed strata, is the management responsible for any leakages from external walls and roof?
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biggrin.gif you dreaming, any problem within your house area, youself responsible
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 21 2023, 02:14 PM)
For my house under strata title,  still need to pay for cukai tafsiran and cukai tanah.
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of course, govenment willing to do it for you, just that you reject only. money still need to pay
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post Aug 21 2023, 04:20 PM

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yes- still need to pay the 2 cukai....

as they claim
1- you reject.
2- the cukai also cover other things- say the street light, or road nearby you taman.

so just pay ba.
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I am curious if we can install solar panel on top of strata houses..?
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QUOTE(OrangeGrove @ Aug 21 2023, 04:41 PM)
I am curious if we can install solar panel on top of strata houses..?
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As long as not breaching the Strata act should be fine
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QUOTE(OrangeGrove @ Aug 21 2023, 04:41 PM)
I am curious if we can install solar panel on top of strata houses..?
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Can, but depend on your JMB rule. My one no exterior piping is allowed, so have to conceal the conduit pipe at own cost
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post Aug 21 2023, 07:24 PM

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I don't understand, if it's a pipe bocor under the main road, and need to excavate and patch the road back again, it will cost a huge bomb.

Is it wise for strata landed in this case?
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How about if 200 identical 20x70 houses are built on a 25 acre land (bet it leasehold or freehold). Assume for simplicity, 10 acres is the land belonging to owners directly. 15 acres is to roads, parks, facilities etc.

Do the 200 owners have a claim to that 15 acres of land?

That means, is it fair to say they own the surrounding land, not just the house?

If in the future the government or private entity wanted to take over the entire housing township, must the government or private entity only compensate for the 20x70 parcel belonging to each owner, or also for their equal share of the remaining 15 acres of "public" land within the strate development?

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post Aug 22 2023, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Aug 21 2023, 07:24 PM)
I don't understand, if it's a pipe bocor under the main road, and need to excavate and patch the road back again, it will cost a huge bomb.

Is it wise for strata landed in this case?
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Not sure whether Air Selangor will have to bear the cost or since the underground pipe is belong to them. Maybe next time I can ask office for this challenging question, lol

Anyway, assuming in the worst case scenario, something very bad happen damaged your precient's infra like whole fencing collapse or all facilities breakdown and incur huge cost, and it is not covered by insurance bought by JMB, and worst the JMB ACC no more money inside, then answer is yes, all owners as strata title holder must bear the cost equally.

So the conclusion is strata landed house always incur higher cost compare to normal individual title house due additional features (infra, landscape, design, security). So you should ask yourself whether you need these and willing to pay for it or not, instead of thinking whether it is wise or unwise. Same like a person can either buy BMW 330 or myvi, both are drivable for daily use, but they provide different user experience and enjoyment.

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Aug 22 2023, 06:50 AM)
Not sure whether Air Selangor will have to bear the cost or since the underground pipe is belong to them. Maybe next time I can ask office for this challenging question, lol

Anyway, assuming in the worst case scenario, something very bad happen damaged your precient's infra like whole fencing collapse or all facilities breakdown and incur huge cost, and it is not covered by insurance bought by JMB, and worst the JMB ACC no more money inside, then answer is yes, all owners as strata title holder must bear the cost equally.

So the conclusion is strata landed house always incur higher cost compare to normal individual title house due additional features (infra, landscape, design, security). So you should ask yourself whether you need these and willing to pay for it or not, instead of thinking whether it is wise or unwise. Same like a person can either buy BMW 330 or myvi, both are drivable for daily use, but they provide different user experience and enjoyment.
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if fencing or retention wall collapse which is very rare case, may ask from developer for assistance ( of course JMB must provide strong justification)
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post Aug 22 2023, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Aug 21 2023, 03:37 PM)
biggrin.gif you dreaming, any problem within your house area, youself responsible
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just asking since for highrise, the management is responsible for facade which covers external walls and also roof.
hence if the penthouses or top floor units leaks, its under management. and for water intrusion to any of the units, presumably it's also under management.
was under the impression for landed strata, facade still belongs to the management?
anyway thanks for clearing it up.
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post Aug 22 2023, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 22 2023, 05:04 AM)
just asking since for highrise, the management is responsible for facade which covers external walls and also roof.
hence if the penthouses or top floor units leaks, its under management. and for water intrusion to any of the units, presumably it's also under management.
was under the impression for landed strata, facade still belongs to the management?
anyway thanks for clearing it up.
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if not mistaken for water leaking issues if ur top floor is roof then yes its under MC

if ur top floor is another neighbour then it is bared by ur neighbour not the MC

so ur upstairs neighbour if damn sohai dont wanna pay to repair his house pipings then u suffer the leaking

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