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Zot
post Aug 8 2023, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(waka14 @ Aug 8 2023, 11:32 AM)
Well i prepare a fkton of economic/business reports that i need to spend hours reading. When i come to /k, that usually means that I sudah giveup...and need time to breathe lmao.

TBH, i would do that..but office computer sudah block alot of things..Cannot install a compiler here..else can jalan. But without compiler can jalan x? unless i use those from w3school. But that is not the same as the actualy working environment i suppose right?
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Well, long reading is tiring even though not much of physical movement.

laugh.gif I forgot. One advantage that I have is that I have admin right that I can install and uninstall anything and anytime I wanted like certain IT people. Even managers/directors do not have this right laugh.gif I get IT guy give me Admin right. Otherwise it would be difficult for me to work because clients files are using many apps thus many different format. I need to find apps to be able to open and view.

Maybe you need to get close to IT guys. If not one audit your PC, then probably you can bypass the admin right using software to install apps laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2023, 12:08 PM

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2023 still learn programming and plan for career change? AI will automates coding creation.
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post Aug 8 2023, 12:11 PM

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Stop giving excuses cb. Just sleep early.
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post Aug 8 2023, 12:18 PM

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post Aug 8 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(jurkflash @ Aug 8 2023, 11:43 AM)
when you are tired, don't learn things that requires your brain power. you will find it hard to focus and then waste more time, especially in programming. I always tell ppl never code when you are tired, it just get messy and making bad solution.
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im definitely feeling it lol

QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Aug 8 2023, 12:00 PM)
Do u exercise?? U need to do some workout, or at least walking in the park, drink lots of water n have enough sleep, enough sun also. Else u wont feel good
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i do, but just 2x weekly.

QUOTE(AeolusLite @ Aug 8 2023, 12:02 PM)
macam ktard Jasonist cakap..sleep earlier wake up earlier few hours will feel much fresher and take in stuff easier

all the best TS
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im not a morning person..but i can try i suppose..

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 8 2023, 12:04 PM)
I just quit my job & took a career break + study full-time instead.. lel
tried studying while working. after work, just too tired mentally/physically to study.
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i was actually contemplating of going that route,doing grabcar parttime or something.
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post Aug 8 2023, 12:48 PM

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post Aug 8 2023, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 8 2023, 12:07 PM)
Well, long reading is tiring even though not much of physical movement.

laugh.gif  I forgot. One advantage that I have is that I have admin right that I can install and uninstall anything and anytime I wanted like certain IT people. Even managers/directors do not have this right  laugh.gif  I get IT guy give me Admin right. Otherwise it would be difficult for me to work because clients files are using many apps thus many different format. I need to find apps to be able to open and view.

Maybe you need to get close to IT guys. If not one audit your PC, then probably you can bypass the admin right using software to install apps  laugh.gif
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IT guys do everything remote from the Australia...so i have no control at all..yamete

QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 8 2023, 12:08 PM)
2023 still learn programming and plan for career change? AI will automates coding creation.
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well, you got a better suggestion? for something that I can transition into and reach RM6-8k salary within 4yrs of working? Because i tried...nothing came up asides the programmer types of job.

QUOTE(cse.my @ Aug 8 2023, 12:11 PM)
Stop giving excuses cb. Just sleep early.
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Great advise thanks
QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Aug 8 2023, 12:18 PM)
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lmao...thats why im on /k no? to find ways of doing it

This post has been edited by waka14: Aug 8 2023, 12:50 PM
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post Aug 8 2023, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(waka14 @ Aug 8 2023, 12:49 PM)
well, you got a better suggestion? for something that I can transition into and reach RM6-8k  salary within 4yrs of working? Because i tried...nothing came up asides the programmer types of job.

lmao...thats why im on /k no? to find ways of doing it
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Working is not about salary, it's about your passion. You said you already tired and don't have the "motivation" to study after work, so I guess you don't have passion on this field.

Just FYI, I'm doing network security, I don't even reach your defined salary range within 4 years of working, but I always study after work and even on weekends, attend certification exams every 2-3 months, it's boring life and keep rinse and repeat. I dare not to say I have passion on this field but I'm still motivated to study after work...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 8 2023, 12:56 PM)
Working is not about salary, it's about your passion. You said you already tired and don't have the "motivation" to study after work, so I guess you don't have passion on this field.

Just FYI, I'm doing network security, I don't even reach your defined salary range within 4 years of working, but I always study after work and even on weekends, attend certification exams every 2-3 months, it's boring life and keep rinse and repeat. I dare not to say I have passion on this field but I'm still motivated to study after work...
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a friend of mine does cyberscurity...within 3yrs he sudah earning 7k++. But he took a bunch of certs along the way, started working at age 30 without any prior experience.

I do not have a choice unfortunately, i need money to fix my life and other career's will force me to start at a salary of 2.6k or so (family commitment, parents and etc...so i got that nonsense to worry about)...even worse im 29, so those fresh grad jobs wont bother with me, i tried applying alot of places...probably closing 800 applications at this rate. So at this rate, i only know one thing.

passions wont put food on the table for me. Sales? well, i do not have that type of security to do sales lmao..so this is the last thing i can think of. My current industry is a super niche thing...as a trade officer to one of the embassies..so outside of my field, really macam no where to go at this rate. To make matters worse, the industry that I am in are slowly turning permanent staffs into contract staffs thanks to our political uncertainty..so pretty much no reason to stay in this line sudah and its just a matter of time before things get real sour.

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post Aug 8 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Aug 8 2023, 11:15 AM)
just sleep early, wake up at 3am or 4am study.. conlanfirm effective
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Aug 8 2023, 11:16 AM)
1) Use music as motivation / to improve your mood to study?
2) Do something that makes you happy first before studying.
3) Are you actually interested/passionate about programming, or is it just follow the crowd?
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True programming not for everyone. Same like doctor engineer lawyer
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post Aug 8 2023, 01:20 PM

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post Aug 8 2023, 01:26 PM

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If you passionate about something, you yourself will find way to do it

If u don’t look forward to it regardless how tired you are, stop kidding yourself and move on to something you are passionate about

For me fitness is my passion and no matter how fucked up my day was I will find time to do it.

If I can’t find it in myself, I will listen to David goggins podcast….a man that ran a marathon with bad cartilage is telling me to dig deep into myself. Always when I almost quit, goggin podcast give me strength.

Remember when u are in deep pain and can’t do it anymore, it’s only 40 percent of what you can achieved. There is 60 percent more to give

You don’t know me son…stay hard
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post Aug 8 2023, 01:28 PM

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Classic symptoms of wanting change because of own future but the interest to grind for it is not there.
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post Aug 8 2023, 01:41 PM

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post Aug 8 2023, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 8 2023, 11:28 AM)
What kind of work so tiring?

Since you have time to /k, then use the time between work to learn your interest. This way you keep being motivated on both work and hobby by keep switching your mind between subject.

I learn VBA to ease my work during office time and able to get more free time by reducing about probably 80% my work load. Now I can do also other hobby working on Adruino project. Weekend I can do other things like woodwork too  laugh.gif
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same here, but i use chatgpt to write the vba for me instead and those code work almost all the time.

with chatgpt now u dont even need to know coding, like myself just key in your condition or queries and chatgpt will do it all for you.



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post Aug 8 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(waka14 @ Aug 8 2023, 01:02 PM)
a friend of mine does cyberscurity...within 3yrs he sudah earning 7k++. But he took a bunch of certs along the way, started working at age 30 without any prior experience.

I do not have a choice unfortunately, i need money to fix my life and other career's will force me to start at a salary of 2.6k or so (family commitment, parents and etc...so i got that nonsense to worry about)...even worse im 29, so those fresh grad jobs wont bother with me, i tried applying alot of places...probably closing 800 applications at this rate. So at this rate, i only know one thing.

passions wont put food on the table for me. Sales? well, i do not have that type of security to do sales lmao..so this is the last thing i can think of. My current industry is a super niche thing...as a trade officer to one of the embassies..so outside of my field, really macam no where to go at this rate. To make matters worse, the industry that I am in are slowly turning permanent staffs into contract staffs thanks to our political uncertainty..so pretty much no reason to stay in this line sudah and its just a matter of time before things get real sour.
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You got interest in coding or just blinded with the reported salary figures?

If your determined enough you will sacrifice your sleep (i.e sleep and wake up early) and your weekends to achieve your goal.
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 8 2023, 01:46 PM)
You got interest in coding or just blinded with the reported salary figures?

If your determined enough you will sacrifice your sleep (i.e sleep and wake up early) and your weekends to achieve your goal.
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just salary, no passion involved. My passions are not something that can be monetised unfortunately.
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post Aug 8 2023, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 8 2023, 01:46 PM)
You got interest in coding or just blinded with the reported salary figures?

If your determined enough you will sacrifice your sleep (i.e sleep and wake up early) and your weekends to achieve your goal.
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Agreed, that's what I'm trying to say.

To TS, programming not really suitable for you based on observing your reply. It's really hard-core technical and really needed passionate. Ever thought of changing direction to Project Manager role instead? There are free course and gov sponsorship to study on project management.
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post Aug 8 2023, 02:11 PM

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what is your profession then? 4.8k at 29 is quite good though

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