Most of the tests are fine but I'm specially bad at Jalan atas titi and selekoh tajam.
Any sifu can give me some tips on overcoming these 2 tests?
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Jul 31 2023, 08:50 PM, updated 7 months ago
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Hi guys I've just started to get my B full license recently.
Most of the tests are fine but I'm specially bad at Jalan atas titi and selekoh tajam. Any sifu can give me some tips on overcoming these 2 tests? |
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Jul 31 2023, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 08:50 PM) Hi guys I've just started to get my B full license recently. On titi - look where you want to go, do not look on the titi... Most of the tests are fine but I'm specially bad at Jalan atas titi and selekoh tajam. Any sifu can give me some tips on overcoming these 2 tests? Similarly with selekoh tajam. ezpz... FYI, my 16 years old son got his B Full straight pass. Zero experience with any motorcycle at all. Good luck. |
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Jul 31 2023, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jul 31 2023, 08:55 PM) On titi - look where you want to go, do not look on the titi... On titi I can understand. But that selekoh tajam the road is almost as wide as the bike only. Don't look later won't langgar tepi ka? Similarly with selekoh tajam. ezpz... FYI, my 16 years old son got his B Full straight pass. Zero experience with any motorcycle at all. Good luck. |
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Jul 31 2023, 09:21 PM
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Titi focus on the cones ahead
Z corner you really need slow down, and keep ur balance while slow Anyhow practice practice practice until first try come can do This post has been edited by apieh23: Jul 31 2023, 09:21 PM |
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Jul 31 2023, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 09:08 PM) On titi I can understand. But that selekoh tajam the road is almost as wide as the bike only. Don't look later won't langgar tepi ka? For Titi do the following.1) line up at the titi, but as far back as possible without the rear tyre crossing the line. This will allow you to ramp up speed before getting on the titi. 2) focus on the (slalom) cones ahead, which usually will be in-line with the titi.. Give it throttle to get up on the titi. Immediately feather rear brake and throttle/clutch all through the titi run to keep speed and start counting down 8 seconds. As long as you are focused on going straight and moving, you won't fall off. For the sharp corner, again feather rear brake (don't use front brake) feather clutch, counter lean (lean slightly away from the corner; while turning right, shift your body left. bike will turn easier...and sharper). The titi test is more to test nerves than skill. I've seen completely new riders with mere hours on a bike pass the first time and see veteran riders fall off multiple times. One more advise, when practicing, go off the titi a few times, so you won't be scared of falling off. It will make you calmer later on. This post has been edited by jaycee1: Jul 31 2023, 09:48 PM |
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Jul 31 2023, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 09:42 PM) For Titi do the following. I see..... At sharp turn I always lean with the bike. Newbie mah...... 1) line up at the titi, but as far back as possible without the rear tyre crossing the line. This will allow you to ramp up speed before getting on the titi. 2) focus on the (slalom) cones ahead, which usually will be in-line with the titi.. Give it throttle to get up on the titi. Immediately feather rear brake and throttle/clutch all through the titi run to keep speed and start counting down 8 seconds. As long as you are focused on going straight and moving, you won't fall off. For the sharp corner, again feather rear brake (don't use front brake) feather clutch, counter lean (lean slightly away from the corner; while turning right, shift your body left). The titi test is more to test nerves than skill. I've seen completely new riders with mere hours on a bike pass the first time and see veteran riders fall off multiple times. One more advise, when practicing, go off the titi a few times, so you won't be scared of falling off. It will make you calmer later on. I have one question: for example like if I failed 1 section of the test do I need to redo all the tests again or only retry the the section that I failed? Now the bahagian 3 I no problem dy. Just that 2 sections of litar test I not really confident. |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 09:51 PM) I see..... At sharp turn I always lean with the bike. Newbie mah...... at the sharp z turn no need to lean because very slow speed, focus on turning the handle and try to put the tyre and the end side of the roadI have one question: for example like if I failed 1 section of the test do I need to redo all the tests again or only retry the the section that I failed? Now the bahagian 3 I no problem dy. Just that 2 sections of litar test I not really confident. example sharp turn right, put your bike at most left side of the road before turning handle right so the bike has more turning radius in jpj test, fail one section you will fail the whole test.. if that happen need to pay for retake I haven't take B full yet but this is what I remember when I took B2 license |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 09:51 PM) I see..... At sharp turn I always lean with the bike. Newbie mah...... If you fail the 1st section, you just need to do the first section next time....but since the circuit is continuous, you just have to do 2-3 at the same time.I have one question: for example like if I failed 1 section of the test do I need to redo all the tests again or only retry the the section that I failed? Now the bahagian 3 I no problem dy. Just that 2 sections of litar test I not really confident. Just to add for the titi. It's ok to go faster (to gain momentum and balance) for the first 1/4 of the titi as long as you slow down enough for the rest of it. A lot of people make the mistake of going too slow up the titi. Hence leaving 1-2ft of space for you to gain speed before hitting the titi. The test for me was fun though.... During practice did all the funny things ..like stopping in the middle of the titi while balancing, doing a slight wheelie during the run to e brake...steep lean angles during figure 8. Would be embarrassing if I didn't pass the first time out...hahahaha. This post has been edited by jaycee1: Jul 31 2023, 10:13 PM |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 10:01 PM) If you fail the 1st section, you just need to do the first section next time....but since the circuit is continuous, you just have to do 2-3 at the same time. OK... I'll tell my teacher to let me keep practice until I'm confident. Anyway I still need to wait 1 month for my L license to be able to register for test.Just to add for the titi. It's ok to go faster (to gain momentum and balance) for the first 1/4 of the titi as long as you slow down enough for the rest of it. A lot of people make the mistake of going too slow up the titi. The test for me was fun though.... During practice did all the funny things ..like stopping in the middle of the titi while balancing, doing a slight wheelie during the run to e brake...steep lean angles during figure 8. Would be embarrassing if I didn't pass the first time out...hahahaha. So I think I'll practice hard in this 1 month time. |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:16 PM
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If you already have a big bike, practice counter leaning in a parking lot. You will find the bike turns more easily and sharper for tight low speed turns.
Only higher speed corners you can lean with the bike. Low speed is usually counter lean. |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jul 31 2023, 10:16 PM) If you already have a big bike, practice counter leaning in a parking lot. You will find the bike turns more easily and sharper for tight low speed turns. I don't own a big bike yet. Thinking of getting one after I get my license. But I'll try your method during my next lesson. Only higher speed corners you can lean with the bike. Low speed is usually counter lean. |
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Jul 31 2023, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 10:22 PM) I don't own a big bike yet. Thinking of getting one after I get my license. But I'll try your method during my next lesson. :thumbsup: Just to clarify. For the z turn, it helps to counter lean. It's not necessary. When I mean counter lean, I meant leaning your body away. The bike still leans in the direction of the turn. You are using your body to counter the bike "falling" into the turn. Same with the figure 8. You can do it better with counter lean. But again not necessary for the test. But low speed counter leaning is crucial for day to day riding on a big bike on the street...on sharp turns or U-turns. |
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Aug 1 2023, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 09:08 PM) On titi I can understand. But that selekoh tajam the road is almost as wide as the bike only. Don't look later won't langgar tepi ka? It's always look where you want to go, not where you are at + tons of practice. And practice with all available bike as you'll never know which one will be yours during the test day. |
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Aug 1 2023, 06:38 AM) It's always look where you want to go, not where you are at + tons of practice. My academy only have 1 bike for B full test. Because not many people willing to spend RM1k+ for that license. Most big bike rider at my place don't have B full. Some B2 also don't have. And practice with all available bike as you'll never know which one will be yours during the test day. You're right, I will discuss with my teacher let me have more practice. This post has been edited by Si kutu rayau: Aug 1 2023, 10:13 AM |
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Aug 1 2023, 11:11 AM
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practice practice and more practice
just wondering, er6 or z650? i imagine its more susah on the er6, its a hefty-ish bike |
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jul 31 2023, 08:50 PM) Hi guys I've just started to get my B full license recently. Nowadays got sharp corner test?Most of the tests are fine but I'm specially bad at Jalan atas titi and selekoh tajam. Any sifu can give me some tips on overcoming these 2 tests? Err... Care to let me know the flow of the test for B Full now? Feel so unker already. |
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Aug 1 2023, 11:11 AM) practice practice and more practice It's z650. just wondering, er6 or z650? i imagine its more susah on the er6, its a hefty-ish bike QUOTE(xnobys @ Aug 1 2023, 11:49 AM) Nowadays got sharp corner test? 1. Jalan titiErr... Care to let me know the flow of the test for B Full now? Feel so unker already. 2. Strolling between cones 3. Emergency brake 4. Bumpy road 5. Spinning 8 6. Sharp cornering Then test jalan. |
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Aug 1 2023, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Aug 1 2023, 10:10 AM) My academy only have 1 bike for B full test. Because not many people willing to spend RM1k+ for that license. Most big bike rider at my place don't have B full. Some B2 also don't have. Maybe you have to pay a bit more...You're right, I will discuss with my teacher let me have more practice. Z650 - ezpz bike, very light. |
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Aug 2 2023, 02:53 PM
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Aug 2 2023, 02:57 PM
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Practice.. you need to focus only on titi, you'll make it.
I failed 2 times because of titi. 3rd passed. This post has been edited by Natsukashii: Aug 2 2023, 02:58 PM |
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