well
they said its gonna arrive by christmas - http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/05/22/pc..._by_christmas/1
but already implanted in 2900xt
what will happen to the high end dual gpu config boards of 939 / AM2 and 775?

pci-e 2.0?
any special?

more power input
double bandwith
and more
but im worried bout my ati xpress 3200
haha

but last time got 1 forumer said that card these days dont even fully ultilize pci-e x16

it backward compatible, so it can be pair with pci-e 1.1, need to attach pci-e power cable.

Is it PCI-Express 2.0 = Direct x11?

the latest direct x i heard is 10.1...

PCI-E 2.0 is hardware and dx is software and the latest one dx10.1, dx10 compatible with all agp, pci-e 1.1 and pci-e 2.0

scored!!!
ahaha

anyways, i only know from one of asus' site that the x38 platform will support pcie 2.0 tapi im just sad thinking about socket 939
aha

Alamak so should I upgrade now?or wait until pcie 2.0 release only upgrade? The last time I upgraded my AGP GFX card pcie 1 was released, Now I want to upgrade from AGP to PCIE 1 this release * headache*. Technology is so hard to catch up with

This post has been edited by Paile: Oct 21 2007, 08:58 AM

pcie 2.0 relase already, got few x38 based mobo out there.. all x38 mobo support pcie 2.0

not just asus, got gigabyte, msi, abit and foxconn also

Correct me if I am wrong. From what i know, the advantage of PCI-E 2.0 over 1.0 are below:
1. Double bandwidth
2. Draw more power for Graphics Card (PCI-E 2.0 is 150W and PCI-E 75W)
3. GC manufacturer save more cost by working out less component. ?You can expect cheaper GC compare to PCI-E 1.0 card.

The X38 and AMD RD790FX will support PCI-E 2.0.

However, current PCI-E 1.0 user won't need to worry as need a extra power source needed (PCI-E Express cable). One more thing, ATI card require PCI-E express card need to plug in no matter it is in PCI-E 2.0 or 1.0 environment. nVidia not sure.

Performance wise, it only benefited in Crossfire or SLI time. About 10%. In single card time, no different as it is not yet fully utilize the bandwidth in PCI-E 1.0.

Nothing really innovative if you ask me, as it just encourages GC companies to let their solutions consume even more power. No point in upgrading for this alone if you ask me.

This thread already exist. Here

Since the PCI-2.0 is cater for new generation GPU, that must require high power. Any PSU suite that at the moment? Any PSU support PCI-2.0 now?

get at less 550w.. due pci-e 2.0 consume more power

new graphic chip G92 and RV670 are using pci-e 2.0 tech ..

may i ask?? any benchmark result can share here when using pci-E 2.0??

Any good brand recommeneded? i was told to get Enermax....is it good??

need to change to new motherboard to support the pci-e 2.0?

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Added on October 21, 2007, 3:25 pmsilverstone st56f 560w or acbel ipower enermax r.....i heard people say quality drop edi .m i right?

This post has been edited by fcuk90: Oct 21 2007, 03:25 PM

I was told not to coolerM and Acbel because they really not reliable high RMA rate, power no stable.


Those recommend me to go for good quality one like Antel, Enermax,Silverstone


But i prefer Enermax, cause a lot of my frens are highly recommned that to me after they had use

The only advantage I see is the extra power. I wouldn't be pretty to have 4 cables plugging in to a video card.

Which of course this means it prepares a new platform for newer cards. It doesn't matter if it comes out before or after xmas, it will only be use when both motherboard and graphic card is ready.

The best performance is still to have as much of all texture and other stuff in the VRAM itself, not swapping it in and out, cause that will slows down the performance no matter how many X the bus can get. There will still be the physical distance and other limitations...

what really matters to me is the card manufacturer. hope that they will still produce pciex1.1 at large scale if not those(including me) who own pciex1.1 mobo will be at lost. look what happens to our agp friends, they pay more for the same card as us but with lower bandwith. i've changed my mobo with my gc 3 times already, first the agp 4x to agp 8x then to pciex now what? again hav to change ka? gimme a break...at least for few years...anyway, pciex 1.1 still can beautifully blow grunt's head what?

ok guys, this pci-e 2.0 stuff is only about the pci-e slot amirite?

not kacau the cpu? 775, am2, etc..

i already got the cpu (q6600) and on a verge of buying mobo+gpu.. ack!!


@karim_effendy, i bought x1950P agp for almost twice the price from its pci-e sibling!

it's only the pcie slot. affect mobo only. u can still use the cpu as long as the mobo chipset supports it.

No real advantage for now if u want to compare between PCI e 1.0 to AGP..

So only high ends board support the pcie 2.0 ?
maybe the new 2.0 will be "standardized"early in 2008?

draw more power, more bandwidth.

Will this cause :
1) GC generate more heat
2) GC works harder

Thus Lifespan decrease.... Correct?

no with sufficient cooling system
heat would not be a problem to the GC

only to the world, ice cap and enviroment a well as increase in green house gasses

To allow for more flexibility with increase higher power output through the the pci-e 2.0 slots... does not mean all graphic cards will need the added power.. of more interest would large bandwith for the ability for terabit LAN/mutiple SAS raid/RAM drives

lol i still usng agp . then the pci2.0 come out

PCIe should provide 150 Watt power so typically midrange graphic card wont need external power like 8600GTS.

intel P45 chipset will make it standard.