Getting my first car, was wondering if I should consider 2nd hand car.
I like the design of Honda.

Had considered Proton X50 but seems like short of spare parts and other random issues info obtained from internet.

2nd hand Civic or New City, any advice

This post has been edited by bing0212: Jul 25 2023, 06:25 PM

Wow, first car also so expensive one ka. Hahaha

Always aim for 1st.
Never aim second-hand.

we need spending ppls to support our economy

since u can afford, why not looknat safety feature.
the more advanced will be wise choice.
no matter the price

2nd Civic way better than new City

It's C segment vs B segment

Anytime 2nd hand bigger car nobody knows you buy used otr

2nd hand civic can only get ketam version. Not the latest version, sure people know it’s second hand la.

2nd car - to check properly its not a flooded or got major accident before

Depends on your prorities and wants vs needs

we dont know what u want, if ask us personally you wil be buying based on other ppl's requirements and not yours

I only buy used cars, barely take any depreciation... infact my last car owned for 7yrs, depreciated 2k from purchase price. Dont include repairs, even if so, perhaps less 5k. Thus for me, neither as I dont fancy both City & Civic. In the past one of my cars appreciate several K as the market demand increased.

I support this, definitely need more people like this.

You buy car for your needs not for show. First of all what and where you always drive your ride? If you always in city/small town driving, Honda City (B-Segment) would be the better choice, if you always drive on highway travelling high-speed around Malaysia than the bigger Civic (C-Segment) will be the better choice.

Besides that if you plan to buy used, better get to know few trusted mechanic which you can bring along to go inspect as used cars some are gem but a lot are lemon.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 25 2023, 09:15 AM

New always better...warranty full 5 years..low interest..

if u meet a lot of ppl - 2nd hand civic
if u just admin work in office - city
if u admin and most the time wfh - axia

first car so we can safely assume ts not yet marry?

better get city instead of civic if u die die want H

at least new car n have warranty

I love my honda city more than accord. reason why, is very very fuel efficient, but that fc not what really concern me, the most I love about city is small size. everywhere also easy to park.

even u not park accurate also, u will still park in the parking box and not disturb others.

and city still can go max 140kmh with comfortable pace, but if u wish to go higher, yeah, need to use civic although city can go 190kmh, but thats not a comfortable speed to go.

bro, don't mind me asking, but what car did you buy used that only has depreciated 2k?
Wanna know cuz looking around for a 2nd hand car..

If the Civic condition is good, i will take it over the City any day.

anyway depends on people.
Give u a choice between "mostly" virgin GF but plain looking vs a hot chick but have history... choice depends lah.

All cars are trashed at the factory and during delivery, so there is no such thing as new.

What's your boxes of options & requirements to tick?

City hatchback owner here. Since I got the city, not even once I wish I went for used civic fc instead. I'm happy with my purchase.

At most I only cruise around 140 km/h at highway. City's 1.5 NA engine is more than capable of doing that. As for torque, the paddle shifter is very useful to cover the lack of turbo. Just downshift when overtaking and I get more torque for 10-15 seconds.

But if you plan to fit 5 people often, get civic instead of city. City's middle rear seat is higher than left and right, making it uncomfortable for long distance.

if 2nd hand civic is previous gen/model, please get. Older one too old.
C segment anytime > B segment.

Really depends on your usage. I have both civic ketam and current gen city hatch, for most of my KL city drive i prefer to drive the hatch as it is easier to fit into parking spaces especially at shop lot area. For proper shopping mall or my regular office parking, only i'd take the civic out.

Of coz when ferrying the whole family out for dinner or outstation trips, the civic will be best for space, comfort and also safety.

Civic will consume slightly more petrol per km... the larger 17" on the civic will have more choices on performance tyre selection... rear suspension of civic is multilink vs torsion on the city... better ride and handling!

Thanks for all the replies!

I'm driving my old family for so long ady that's why planning to get a kinda better car haha

I'm not married and working in KL, i really enjoy driving around in Malaysia longest drive i had was 8hrs.

My need is just comfortable and reliable car. Can fetch my mum girlfriend and sisters kid to go cuti around Semenanjung sometimes

This post has been edited by bing0212: Jul 25 2023, 06:23 PM

if Civic ketam, then can consider. any older, not worth it.

but nothing beats a new car with warranty and all. peace of mind for the next few years. while 2nd hand car is a luck of the draw.

I used to own second hand car for decades until last month i purchase my very first car.

It depends on what you requirement.

Civic ketam with the turbo? Sadly no, it is not recommended even by my mechanic for used as a lot are abuse quite badly and most seller sell it after fail CVT gearbox, engine or mods. Just try to get to know who is the previous owner if in mid 20~30's mostly are abused badly.

If you ask me the only model can buy is either the ketam 1.8L N/A version (sadly quite low spec.) or previous gen with the 2.0 N/A i-VTEC (K20Z2) engine, the 2.0 i-VTEC are the real gem in civic generation and mostly bullet proof engine & gearbox (still using 5-speed auto).

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 26 2023, 08:48 AM

I would take new car every time, way less headache.

2nd Honda Civic is better choice.

2nd hand civic, but prefer u get from direct owner so that you know more about the car history and condition.

i think you can try join civic fc facebook group and you can look from there, some owners letting go their baby, if you wanna take loan you might need to get a 2nd hand dealer to help you to process it, might cost around 3k or 4k for all the fees and handlings.

the thing about 2nd hand is 70% luck

Even the 2020/2021 that still under warranty also not recommended? Because I'm looking for 2020/2021 one, just need to check with SC whether the warranty voided or not and history of maintenance etc.

Nop, the purchase for used unit especially for 1.5 turbo engine risk is high.
If the previous owner mod and found any non-original parts, the warranty = nothing.

yours is which spec? V - Sen?

civic is infamous for the steering rack issues.

plus for those models with turbo, also more risk of failing part. I'd say get the new city

I dunno others, I test drove Civic Ketam 1.5T a few times, good and satisfy with its pickup.

Recently test drove new City RS showroom unit at city area, the car was stubborn slow unless press more then it slowly accelerate, maybe need to press more or fully throttled only enough. It reminded me those old bulky continental car from 1980s and 1990s of slow acceleration.

V spec.

At first planned to get RS because of the marketed "253nm torque". But during test drive, I can't feel that extra torque at all, maybe it's just a marketing ploy.

I choose V over V-sensing because I not confident with honda sensing. Heard too much story of it doing false positive.

I know right? They marketed it as having 253nm torque, which would make it a godly B segment car. But during test drive, it feels more sluggish than the petrol version which supposedly has lower torque.

This post has been edited by apamise: Jul 26 2023, 05:17 PM

1st car better choose second perodua any model

If reliable car is your first priority then better take new City rather than used Civic. Btw H reliability isn't reliable compare to its rival T. If power is not your first priority then maybe can look at Vios. Some argue interior looks like Perodua but the quality is different. In term of comfort I believe Vios is more comfortable than City and also better handling, meanwhile City is better in power output.

Honda all these while sell is its higher hp engine in similar category, you never heard that buy Honda is to buy his engine technology while the car body is option/by-products? Engine is their strength, while others so-so...

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 27 2023, 10:29 AM

Powerful engine is surely syiok when accelerating but how often we use full power or 50% of the engine power? I own a VW GTI with over 200hp for my daily drive, honestly 90% of time I don't even use 50% of the power during city or highway drive. Of course with full load I will step harder to gain more power but it is quite rare. However good chassis which give good handling, well balance of comfort and body roll make more sense because we can feel it even in low speed.

depends on the person driving/owning the car i guess.

it's just like spare tires, foldable rear seats, fog lamps. our average use, we dun really use these things. but when you remove it from the (new) car entirely, now we feel something is missing. that 1-2 times in a year that we wanna use it, we lament the lack of it.

same goes to power in the car. daily driving probably have no need for it, but when i need it (to overtake cars in a busy highway due to lane hogger in the middle lane, or exiting a junction or just accelerating with a full load of passengers), i appreciate the car when it does have it.

that being said, i won't sacrifice everything just for the 1 thing. best car is really a car that performs averagely well in most aspect.

like so much power, but stiff ride until back pain, is pointless
super comfy ride but with the acceleration of a bus, also kinda pointless.
and everything good, but have parts commonly give out within 2-3 years of usage, also kinda pointless.

that's my take on cars

but i think honda not THAT big an issue if you don't abuse the car? used car takes away that peace of mind because you have no idea how hard the previous owner abuse the powertrain.

depends on user

I'm the type that "it is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it"

The 1.8s is not quite low spec, you can opt for it if you don't need the turbo and ADAS, the seats you could rewrap in leather, surprisingly the torque is there in S mode, just need to change for better tyres, since it's the last iteration it would have fix all the niggling issues.

sad things in malaysia, is those who sell their car abuse kaw kaw the car. example 1st owner. they in their mind already target use car for 5 years only. so they just abuse their car kaw kaw and after 5 years sell go buy newer car. while 2nd buyer need to face those shit that arise due to hard driven from 1st owner.

those who really take care their car, will not simply sell their car within 7 years time frame. thats what culture in malaysia is.

so if need to pick, new vs 2nd. please prioritize new car first. this is important especially in Malaysia.

Don’t forget about the big kl flood on end 2021. Maybe check from the maintenance records whether the car is used in kl or other states

There is a lot of quality issue with honda city in recent years.
Gear box issue, door panel sound, axle beam, electric steering rack issue, oil strainer issues.
How is urs ?

I got both civic 1.8s (fc) and city 1.5s (gn2) sedan. For short trip and town driving I'd take the City anytime. Only drive the civic for long trips >50 km.

always go for higher segment one gen old never mind
big difference imo

I'm a City GM6 owner. If I had to choose between used ketam and new City, I'd go for the new City. Fewer headaches in terms of unknown reliability due to unknown maintenance/usage pattern for the ketam.

How is the consumption? Any opinion about the HB RS?

Around 15 km/l, without using eco mode. City hybrid can get 50% more per liter, but that spec is almost rm20k more expensive than my V spec. Tambah rm5k can get HRV already.

Make sure you test drive both hybrid and petrol variant to find which you like more. I find the petrol one more responsive and paddle shifters make it even more fun to drive.

Thanks for the feedback. I also read that top speed on NA version is higher than the RS. What’s the top speed you’ve reached before?

I'm not really into top speed, so I haven't try to push it.

But yeah, the hybrid version use atkinson cycle, so better efficiency but lower horsepower and lower top speed.

This post has been edited by apamise: Aug 4 2023, 08:59 PM