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victorian
post Nov 30 2023, 10:49 PM

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I actually went to the Sentul Sales Gallery and there is a model of the project there. Still contemplating over the townhouses, if it will be a good buy given the size.

Anyway here's some details on the project:

Another project in the pipeline is Dedaun Rimba, an upcoming
gated-and-guarded development in the visionary township of Kwasa
Damansara, located northwest of Kuala Lumpur CBD. Dedaun Rimba
presents an opportunity to partner Kwasa Land Sdn Bhd in the
development of the Kwasa Damansara master-planned township.
The project is slated for launch in the fourth quarter of 2023.
Dedaun Rimba offers a unique urban living concept within a 12.7-
acre development site where the living experience is enriched by
the tranquility of nature complemented by a clubhouse and a host
of lifestyle facilities. The development features a total of 264
residential units comprising 68 units of 3-storey link houses featuring
five bedrooms, and 196 units of 1 ½-storey townhouses featuring
three bedrooms. The estimated GDV is RM200 million.
Kwasa Damansara is served directly by two MRT lines with two
stations in the vicinity of Dedaun Rimba. The development also
enjoys a strategic location with excellent connectivity by road and
multiple interconnected highways.

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post Dec 1 2023, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Chady @ Dec 1 2023, 03:25 PM)
Thank you for the recommendation. I went to the sales gallery just now and I really like masterplan of Dedaun Rimba, it's pretty impressive. Looking forward for their launch in Jan 2024 (the receptionist told me). .

I like the upper unit of the townhouse as it has double height ceiling in the living room.
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I actually wanted to take a picture of the model but I was not allowed to.

I'm assuming the upper level will be the bigger size and the lower unit will be smaller? And pricing wise lower is more expensive, right?
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post Feb 1 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Feb 1 2024, 11:06 AM)
Anyone going this Sunday?
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What’s happening this Sunday
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post Feb 1 2024, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Feb 1 2024, 02:41 PM)
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post Feb 2 2024, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Feb 1 2024, 06:34 PM)
Not sure tbh since they haven’t announced the price. If they still maintain the 800k for the townhouses then it might be out of reach for many and not worth since you can get far more in nearby areas like gamuda/rawang and Elmina. Pricing is key here
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Care to comment on the right pricing for this location?

16 Sierra also has a new launch townhouse at 900k, 2110 sqft.

Still contemplating if Dedaun Rimba is the right buy at this price.

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Feb 2 2024, 06:29 PM)
Seems based on the APDL on their brochure, townhouse will be 870k and above, 3 storey link house 1.9 mil and above LOL. I don’t know how much rebates they can give but assuming 10/15%, that’s still out of reach for many.
Without rebates, Dedaun is launching at RM635 psft for townhouse. I think that price for 16 Sierra townhouse is after rebates? SPA price is still above a mil. Both mrt connected, both in developing townships, both leasehold. At this rate I’d just go for the one most convenient to commute to work and family
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16 sierra townhouse is 11 cents, no facility. This one 28 cents but with facility.

Anyway will drop by this Sunday. A bit last minute for me, but I redeemed 30k cash just in case I need it lol.

A bit steep if you don't have so much cash in hand.
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post Feb 3 2024, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Chady @ Feb 3 2024, 04:02 PM)
I’ve booked a townhouse, upper unit today. Net price is RM730k for 1,559 sq ft, which translates to RM468 per sq ft, which I believe is quite reasonable.

Terrace house starting is RM1.39mil.

Lower unit townhouse is RM780k for 1,396 sq ft, equivalent to RM 559 sq ft.

Maintenance fees is RM0.28 per sq ft (tentative).

Today only open for YTL and EPF staff and many people booked the unit.

All the best for tomorrow!
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Ytl staff ka?

I'm assuming all the link house has been snapped up?

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post Feb 3 2024, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Chady @ Feb 3 2024, 04:27 PM)
Link house not many ppl booked when I checked in the afternoon. Maybe because it’s expensive
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Right, will drop by tomorrow to have a look.

Any idea how much is the premium for corner lot?
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post Feb 3 2024, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Chady @ Feb 3 2024, 04:55 PM)
corner lot with extra land of 1,269 sq ft is RM1.7mil net. U have to pay maintenance fees also for the land.

Suggest u come early morning tomorrow, expected to have bigger crowds
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You mean townhouse 1.7 mil?

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post Feb 4 2024, 11:25 AM

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Was in the queue this morning and booked a lower one. Surprisingly most of the units are bumi lot and options are not many.

Majority of the lower units are booked.
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post Feb 4 2024, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(zack.gap @ Feb 4 2024, 11:30 AM)
Nice! I managed to snag a lower one as well. But tbh I would’ve picked an upper for investment purposes since the price is decent
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Nice one neighbor. Picked lower because really wanted the landed feel and the balcony is really nice from the master room.

Also lower has direct access to the linear path for jogging.

QUOTE(Chady @ Feb 4 2024, 11:37 AM)
Congrats future neighbours Jack & Victorian! : D Was there long queue?

I checked that the units 50% bumi and 50% non-bumi
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Yup long queue, even now there is still people waiting outside. Don’t think there is much units left

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post Feb 4 2024, 02:56 PM

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On another note, if the extra land is calculated in the maintenance fee, its gonna be real expensive. Was told that the accessory parcel is 50% of the normal maintenance rate.

Normal lower unit townhouse- 1,396 sqft
Accessory parcel- 376 sqft
Maintenance- (1396+376*0.5)*0.28= RM443.52

Normal upper unit townhouse- 1,559 sqft
Accessory parcel- 396 sqft
Maintenance- (1559+396*0.5)*0.28= RM491.96

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QUOTE(torres09 @ Feb 4 2024, 03:29 PM)
May I know what is Accessory Parcel?
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Parking lot I guess
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QUOTE(jo5h_ua @ Feb 4 2024, 03:44 PM)
How's the sales for the link house ? Killer maintenance fee haha

Also 3 year completion is quite long
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Fully booked for non bumi iinm.

I don't mind the 3 years completion, not in an urgent to move in
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QUOTE(jo5h_ua @ Feb 4 2024, 05:01 PM)
Is the bumi allocation equal between the link house and townhouse ? So only 32 units of link house available to non bumis?
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I think is 50/50 split, but I think there are slightly more link house for non-bumi
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Feb 5 2024, 12:41 PM)
Thats a bit pricey. What are the facilities on offer?
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In addition to the parks, playgrounds and jogging track, residents will have access to clubhouse amenities such as a 25m infinity pool, wading pool, gymnasium, multipurpose hall, meeting room and kindergarten.
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QUOTE(PAChamp @ Feb 6 2024, 12:39 PM)
Interesting. Are the maintenance fees also used to pay for the clubhouse facilities ie. you will forever be paying for the clubhouse even if you don't use the facilties? Parks, playground and jogging tracks should not cost too much to maintain but I am guessing since there are not many units therefore the maintenance cost is high.

Another landed strata development by a reputed developer separated the clubhouse facilities from the maintenance fees ie. if you don't use the facilities you can opt out of the membership fees. Also that development has about 200+++ units in total so landscape security facilities roughly about 200++
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Of course you cannot opt out, the clubhouse is within the premise, hence all residents can enjoy it equally.

If clubhouse is optional, it should not sit within the compound (Sierra 16 has separate clubhouse), and the maintenance fee is 11 cents only, meaning you are paying for the guard house only.
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QUOTE(Lucky_Wishes @ Feb 9 2024, 03:29 PM)
any buyer can share your view on this?
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- new landed development near MRT
- low entry price with townhouse
- YTL developer
- strategic location just next to Kota Damansara
- clubhouse facility

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 10 2024, 11:17 AM)
Anybody have the pricing of the units (with any rebates) for Type B
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What is type B
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post Feb 18 2024, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(pinan @ Feb 17 2024, 10:54 AM)
As someone who bought a upper townhouse unit here for my ownstay, here’s my 2 sen analysis regarding the pros and cons of Dedaun Rimba compared with other landed developments that have recently launched new phases with comparable prices including: Sime Darby Elmina @ Shah Alam, IJM Rimbayu @ Jenjarom, Gamuda Gardens @ Rawang, Gamuda Cove @ Putrajaya, Eco Ardence Setia Alam @ Shah Alam, Eco Grandeur @ Bandar Puncak Alam, Eco Majestic @ Semenyih, Bandar Sri Coalfields @ Sungai Buloh, Setia Alam Sari @ Kajang, Setia Templer Park @ Rawang, LBS Bina Kita Cybersouth @ Dengkil.

PROS:

Dedaun Rimba is simply nearer to KL city centre compared to the other landed developments. I have compared traffic conditions during peak morning and evening hours using waze, and it requires the least travel time with reasonable toll rates. As someone who needs to travel daily to KL, the time and energy saved from traveling is priceless.

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It is also within reasonable driving distance to areas with established townships, amenities, variety of food and abundance of job opportunities such as Kota Damansara, Subang, Bandar Utama, Surian, Ara Damansara, Damansara Damai, Kepong and so on.

Alternatively, there is public transport access via around 700m walking distance (no covered walkway) or park and ride at the MRT Kwasa Sentral station (Kajang line), which can transfer to the MRT Putrajaya line in just 1 station away. None of the other landed developments have MRT access. Even if I drive most of the time, having the MRT as a backup is a significant advantage.

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The PSF price of around RM470-530 PSF is relatively low for its location and MRT access advantages. I previously considered Sunway D’hill which is a condo nearby selling at around RM722k for a 1079 sqft unit, equal to around RM670 PSF. So switching to a larger sized landed option (1559 sqft) at around the same absolute price and lower PSF price was an easy choice.

Within the immediate surrounding of Dedaun Rimba there is no industrial/farming activity (factories in Sungai Buloh are around 1km away, but I have not sensed any obvious noise or air pollution from them at the project site), no massive highway, no high tension cable, no PPR, no squatter settlement, no sewerage treatment plant, no cemetery and it is not in any low altitude aircraft flight path. It has honestly been quite difficult to find a newly launched project with no such elements within or surrounding KL.

Compared to other landed developments with similar prices, Dedaun Rimba has one of the lowest plot ratio and density with only 264 units on a 12.7 acre land, and 3 acres dedicated to landscaped greenery.

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There is also a 28 acre public park right in front of the site, providing further recreational activity space and greenery.

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As for the whole Kwasa Damansara masterplan, setting aside the decade long delays and failure to materialize, the projects that have now launched have reasonable densities and the road infrastructure that has been constructed hopefully should be able to cope with future traffic. Even the Rumah Idaman/affordable component of Kwasa Damansara has minimum 2 car parks for each unit, which would hopefully mitigate illegal roadside parking issues.

CONS:

There is a large mosque that is going to be built right next to the public park in front of the site, which may cause some to be concerned about noise and traffic. However, the public park has a large number of parking lots which would hopefully be able to cope with Friday prayer traffic.

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It is a landed strata development with a clubhouse inside, so owners will have to pay higher monthly maintenance fee as compared to gated & guarded individual title developments that provide an option to sign up membership at a developer maintained clubhouse nearby. However, I do appreciate that the unit owners in strata developments cannot change the exterior facade of the units. This also mitigates the risk of your neighbour carrying out months long drilling and hacking for renovation which can make life living hell.

The units only come with water heaters in the bathrooms and are otherwise bare. The title is also leasehold with 91 years remaining.

There is uncertainty in EPF’s (Kwasaland) ability to make Kwasa Damansara a successful township. Instead of playing the role of master township developer like Sime Darby in Elmina, IJM in Rimbayu and etc., EPF has split up the whole master plan into separate pieces of lands and is selling the development rights to individual developers like YTL, TSR, Gadang, Impiana and Exsim. EPF and MRCB are also jointly developing “Kwasa Damansara City Centre” which promises to be a 2,257 acres mixed development with residential, commercial, retail and central park components.

However, after around a decade of delays, nothing except the EPF office and public park has materialized and there were no projects launched until late 2023, whereby several other projects (Tujuh Residences, Daya Residence, Linari Damansara, Laman Waringan and Idaman Kwasa Damansara) are finally launching with actual construction work started at the respective sites.
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Good write up, I think the Elmina township is most comparable as it it the closest to Kwasa.

15 mins to Kwasa and it’s freehold for the same price as the townhouse.


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