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Electric Vehicle Maintenance Is Super-Cheap, But The Dark Secret Is Tires

Today I completed the annual maintenance on my 3.5 year old electric car. I refilled the wiper fluid and added a bit of air to the tires. That’s it. Except for two other things, that’s all I’ve done in the life of the car, though one of those things was a doozy.

The promise of the electric car is that it needs almost no maintenance. There are no oil changes or minor, regular and major service appointments. There are far fewer parts and fewer things to go wrong. In time, I’ll need new wiper blades and a few other minor things. Many drivers report their brake pads not wearing out after 200,000 miles because EV driving almost never uses the brakes.

I did change out the internal air filter to add a HEPA filter for the wildfire and Covid problems of today. That cost about $40 and a bit of time, and probably will need doing again 3 years later.

The doozy was needing new tires at around 28,000 miles. That was too early, far before their rated life. One reason for this was a stupid mistake on my part. In the past, I’ve taken my gasoline cars in for regular service, and they were rotating my tires as needed during this service. Not taking my EV in for service, I never got the rotation done. That not only meant the drive tires of my car wore out faster, it also meant I could not make a warranty claim on them. Lesson learned.

Bicycle, bus and trains cost less and more eco-friendly travel.

If you dunno tire rotation is required every 10,000km, then you are a useless car owner when it comes to maintaining your car.

My EV tyres cost RM2200 per donut. Sigh.

Gila... What size?

size?

Don’t they have linglong?

This post has been edited by msacras: Jul 17 2023, 02:01 PM

cc7 on EV ok anot?

its cheap until the battery, inverter start failing.

You all dont know real EV tires are really expensive, just google about EV tires.
Due to high torque and requirements to meet (long range/better efficient/ silent running) actual EV tires are made with more features to meet = more $$$
If you cheapskate and change normal tires it wont last long (shorter tread life), shorter running range (which most EV owners are scare of), louder road noise.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 17 2023, 02:05 PM

20 inch

yes, it is right now... later know the real deal

Not only that, they are also made to be very silent. There's a silence foam block inside it, like Tesla tyre.

Betul maintenance is cheap, but what happen if faulty it with the battery?

got cheap tires from china yet...?

maintenance cheap but battery mahal

In Malaysia, because petrol is super subsidized, else is comparable.

OK boomer, but BMW says don't rotate tires, https://www.cartalk.com/content/owners-manual-my-bmw-i-says

Tukar battery. Either whole, or send for repair (replace individual faulty battery).

This is bullshit lah. Aduhmak

How to rotate front & rear tyres when BMWs got use different sizes for them?

I dont rotate the tyre, just change when nearly botak, no need save

Where's your source?

Me. My wheels per unit is 250 myr that lasts a very long time (I live in sarawak where the furthers place I'll drive is 30 minutes away). I replace my tires when I feel the steering to be sluggish or driving becomes bumpier eventhough I pump air into it.

Donno how much you pay for rotation but is it really worth it bringing to workshop to do it every 10km?

if your car 2wd then worth to do alignment + rotation

balancing no need do unless u feel your steering vibrating at highway/speed


every 10k do rotation + alignment

so that u wont hit into uneven wearing in the long run

not really expensive ..about 40 bucks depending on car for alignment


if your car is 4wd then rotation might not needed

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jul 17 2023, 02:32 PM

Linglong EV tires je la.

Atto 3 use atlas batman tyres

Ora good cat iinm use Giti tyres

Cheap2

In order to boost ev car sales, gov will increase fuel price soon, agree?

Macam washing machine, kipas...

In Malaysia we got tayat celup or tayar masak

That article is from 2004, I'm guessing back then they were still using the same size tires front and back. Would have been strange to mention that otherwise.

dont be so high can or not. quote an article for ICE, and its BMW. You dont know they come in staggered tyre size? Front and rear different size. You can't even rotate left and right.

I've clocked more than 1+ million mileage in all my cars. When you do spirited drives, and care about handling & grip, it makes a difference.
When I don't do it, the tyre wear is uneven. Of course, if you driving cars on cheap tyres, not really worth it, but I tend to use performance tyres, so it's important.

wait ev batt mati..
kekk

y
Maybe trade war. Linglong wait long long to enter their market

2004 article, read first. You sure old/all BMWs use asymmetrical tire sizes? Fwd 1 series also have bigger rear tires?

For real??

Topcake!

No, for FWD, no need to do so, New tires always go the back, let the front one wear off first. This will surely prevent overstreer

Inverter alone also can kill your wallet already haha

If I was a driver in Thailand or west Malaysia where you can drive 4 hours on a smooth highway yes it's a worthwhile investment. But where I'm from... Totally not worth it

lets talk about battery, when its new, how far u can drive with 1 full charge ? and now, how far u can drive with 1 full charge ?

is ok..janji ev

wait until your electric motor, battery, electronic things start going down...

Super cheap? Super cheap then don't wait.

If your EV is the super fancy type with 19inch 20 inch low profile racer tyre, confirm expensive.

If your EV is normal type with 16, 17inch tyre, should be cheap.

Linglongkanada.

unker cant wait for you to open /ter again when your battery or even worst after accident.(unker dont wish harm, just sayin)

it's not a china problem
it's the size problem

a 19-20 inch tyre no matter what chapalang tyre u use also won't be cheap
the profile of the tyre also low...so meaning it will run out faster if u constant highway use

normal tyre profile is 50 or 55
EV tyre profile is 35 or 40

so it's not something linglong can resolve...20 inch is like land cruiser tyre level already

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jul 17 2023, 03:35 PM

ask the owner to take Achilles ATR Sport 2 then. never botak one. Unless he went become drifter.

can get around rm280-330 per donut for 19" on China brand tyres than in UHP tyres. Their UHP cw Traction AA rating.

what kind of tyre in 19" cost RM300 ish?
even the 18" tyre that toyota owner used already cost more than that

the size for EV is like 245/35/20 around this size
so u can search how much u can get for it

Warranty 7 years kan ada

yes, it is super cheap, until it get expensive... owai..

Don't put in sports mode, put eco mode, then the tires can last longer.

China brand as stated prior. Windforce UHP, Powertrac Racing Pro, just name a few. Landsail as well.

can teach me how to rotate my bmw front 255/50/19 rear 285/45/19?

For Tesla

Basic Vehicle Limited Warranty
The Basic Vehicle Limited Warranty covers your vehicle for 4 years or 80,000 km, whichever comes first.

Supplemental Restraint System Limited Warranty
The Supplemental Restraint System Limited Warranty covers your vehicle for 5 years or 100,000 km, whichever comes first.

Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty
The Battery and Drive Unit in your vehicle are covered for a period of:

Model 3 Rear-Wheel Drive, Model Y Rear-Wheel Drive - 8 years or 160,000 km, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.

Model 3 Performance, Model Y Long Range, Model Y Performance - 8 years or 192,000 km, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.

These warranties cover the repair or replacement necessary to correct defects in the materials or workmanship of any parts manufactured or supplied by Tesla, which occur under normal use.

For further details, please review the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. This summary applies only to vehicles purchased directly from Tesla on or after the date listed on the New Vehicle Limited Warranty; any Tesla vehicles purchased prior to that date are subject to the applicable New Vehicle Limited Warranty effective as of the date of purchase of such vehicle directly from Tesla. You can find your applicable New Vehicle Limited Warranty in your Tesla Account.

https://www.tesla.com/en_my/support/vehicle-warranty

This post has been edited by eclectice: Jul 17 2023, 03:50 PM

can find some but they're not brand new
they're 2021 tyres

and i wouldn't trust my life with those tyres
if can afford a 200k+- car, get yourself some better tyres or just avoid buying the car alltogether

even this higher profile, fuel saving tyre need RM550/each
what more EV tyres
https://www.mudah.my/Tyre+TOYO+CR1-102824293.htm

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jul 17 2023, 03:52 PM

definitely new and the manufacturing date is new for that price. But agree on the 2nd part, just buy a Michelin PS tyre for peace of mind.

Lel electric bill also increase.

Freedom and door to door.

You everyday challenge people for a drag race?

basikal also freedom and door-to-door LOL
also skip jam, easier parking, more eco-friendly.
nice try, enjoy the jam.

Ya no problem at all.

when battery fail its time to scrap the car buy new car

its like smartphone

i dont bother change battery better buy new phone beacause by the time battery loose capacity the hardware is outdated

This post has been edited by Raddus: Jul 17 2023, 04:49 PM

Wait until some bodywork or internal change is required. You would probably cry at the bill.

Frankly, I don't do this as my tyres are not that expensive (less than RM400 per piece), and the extra mileage gained will not match the cost of the rotation, balancing and alignment work.

Unless during the servicing, the shop is willing to do only rotation without balancing and alignment then I will let them do it in order to balance out the wear and tear of the front and rear tyres. Else I will just change all 4 tyres every 60-80k mileage even though most of the time the rear tyres will still have quite some amount of tread depth left.

battery warantty 8 years i think, so no need worry

got many years warantty la

some cheaper EV trim uses normal tires right and not specific EV tire, smaller size too so should be way way cheaper. Of course it'll have some drawbacks like louder noiser and worse fuel efficiency but i think should be worth it if so much cheaper

TS u forget replace batter need rm100k++

last time a merc owner went SC chg battery it was cost rm150k++ owaiii

Pakai buang memang no need to maintain. Or cannot maintain

Because EVs weight more than 2 tonnes.

Read on fb
Some sohai buy e class and turned off the hybrid battery after it had broken down.
Now drive as only ICE.
Lol

this is why when buy car, look at tyre size.

external battery and generator not cheap yo....

Is not about drag race, EV cars got very instant torque (100% of torque are available once you press the pedal down) high torque will create more traction = friction. Besides from that, heavier EV car weight for similar car segment when compare to like ICE car also increase the tire wear rate (if use normal tires). There are a lot of factors thus why more tire manufacturers came out with dedicated EV tires. Just google/do research about EV tires, want to spoon feed all here meh..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jul 17 2023, 05:48 PM

no, but that what the manufacturer specs required. unless lu suka suka down spec. that up to you.

Wait until u change the tire or aircon the u’ll see..


5-8 years it will be shit cheap

B40 like me stick to ICE cars je. Fak EV

EV no need use brake? Then use what?

DC motor turned electric generator. EV version of engine braking.

This post has been edited by brkli: Jul 17 2023, 06:04 PM

Basikal bas dan tren and u cannot kao loi and stay foreveralone

Very soon

https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/wh...e-pedal-driving

Keep up

With tyres, for what it’s worth, difference between regular PS4 and PS4 T0 or T1 seems to be marginal.

That you ask you mom / sis how to kao loi
Good character, cash, condo, credit card and ability to live without car will supercede those that rely on car.

That amount can get me around 13 tires, and my total tire changes for these 8 years haven't even reached half of that. 😄

what car model ?

15 years dulu see menyesal or not

WTF... which car? Hot wheels? My normal SUV tyre cost about 600-700 per piece.

you just removed engin out from the equation
but then you add one other things that's more expensive
like battery, inverter, motor with regenerative braking

so you will still need to do transmission fluid, brake fluid, coolant changes and brake pads even when brake is not frequently used due to age

lol tfw grown men use RC car as daily OMEGALUL real men burn fuel as per my BRAND NEW AMG fuiyoooooooooo

So what is the maintenance fee and other cost for an ev. Per year Vs say a normal myvi.

Anyone did the calculation?

Difference between rich and peasants

So what is the cost after warranty then.
Remember, your car cost includes the warranty servicing as well

Already there in market. Need to search in fb etc

Last time talked about exhausted pollution. Now it is tire pollution.

The main reason for fast tire wear in EV is the EV car is probably about 300~400 kg heavier than your regular petrol car. So, rubber has to be sturdier. If use normal tire probably wear out in 1 year+. Since EV car is still new, the tire is expensive + the process/material I believe is expensive too