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Femsroot
post Jul 18 2023, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(wolftheyorkie @ Jul 18 2023, 12:22 PM)
Like this than no one will buy landed. All those developers can bungkus and go home, correct?

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U asking for opinion, we tell u the best we can. We say go buy landed 2nd hand near town. U wan worry developer bankrup eat sand. Ok la. Go la go go. Go help the the developer and u eat sand.

Someone here even put down the statistics for u. U make money or not u still wan geh kiang. Haiz...go go go.

Make sure u got money renovate after buying.

I'm telling u this not from some1 that don't own anything. I have condo in town. Stayed rent out and move to 3 storey landed house just slightly outskirt. But totally regret. Now looking to move back to town. Up to u.

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post Jul 18 2023, 03:50 PM

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My 2cents, "long term" in property investment should be 20 years at least. As many pointed out the housing market now is quite stagnant unlike the early 2010s, and without any significant boost on the average income of working class I don't see how property could appreciate above the interest you pay to the bank.

Best to aim for rental appreciation instead of capital appreciation but it mean landed house won't be a good option as compared to high rise. You also need a some commitment to manage your rental property, or pay an agent to help you manage it.
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post Jul 18 2023, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Jul 18 2023, 02:58 PM)
U asking for opinion, we tell u the best we can. We say go buy landed 2nd hand near town. U wan worry developer bankrup eat sand. Ok la. Go la go go. Go help the the developer and u eat sand.

Someone here even put down the statistics for u. U make money or not u still wan geh kiang. Haiz...go go go.

Make sure u got money renovate after buying.

I'm telling u this not from some1 that don't own anything. I have condo in town. Stayed rent out and move to 3 storey landed house just slightly outskirt. But totally regret. Now looking to move back to town. Up to u.
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I asked for opinion on best landed area/ development. Not whether or not I should buy landed or not. Pls read question first. If I wanted your opinion if I should buy landed or high rise, I would have done so. Anyway, no hard feelings
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post Jul 18 2023, 05:16 PM

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Bandar Rimbayu , Tropicana Aman, Eco Sanctuary, Gamuda 257.

Compare to other township, commercial is growing fast than other township, except Setia Alam.
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post Jul 18 2023, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Jul 18 2023, 05:16 PM)
Bandar Rimbayu , Tropicana Aman, Eco Sanctuary, Gamuda 257.

Compare to other township, commercial is growing fast than other township, except Setia Alam.
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Thanks. Any idea why setia alam not growing?
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post Jul 18 2023, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(wolftheyorkie @ Jul 18 2023, 05:56 PM)
Thanks. Any idea why setia alam not growing?
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I mean Setia Alam commercial growing the best among all.


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post Jul 18 2023, 07:02 PM

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Landed can't make good profit anymore in outskirt. For those 2nd hand in core area maybe possible.
Property investment is always location.

Ask yourself that is there anyone will buy from you next time for staying? Your buyer should be someone wants to settle down themselves. Definitely not investor for sure.
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post Jul 18 2023, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Jul 18 2023, 05:16 PM)
Bandar Rimbayu , Tropicana Aman, Eco Sanctuary, Gamuda 257.

Compare to other township, commercial is growing fast than other township, except Setia Alam.
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Surprise to see nobody mentioned Gamuda Garden
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post Jul 18 2023, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 18 2023, 08:32 PM)
Surprise to see nobody mentioned Gamuda Garden
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Or Gamuda Cove for that matter. I think Gamuda Cove is like a mix of Gamuda Garden and Jade Hills.
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post Jul 18 2023, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(southadam @ Jul 18 2023, 07:02 PM)
Landed can't make good profit anymore in outskirt. For those 2nd hand in core area maybe possible.
Property investment is always location.

Ask yourself that is there anyone will buy from you next time for staying? Your buyer should be someone wants to settle down themselves. Definitely not investor for sure.
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for last few decade, people said the same thing also.. like bandar sunway , leasehold, deep inside jungle, mining land, etc... u see today
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post Jul 18 2023, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Jul 18 2023, 02:58 PM)
U asking for opinion, we tell u the best we can. We say go buy landed 2nd hand near town. U wan worry developer bankrup eat sand. Ok la. Go la go go. Go help the the developer and u eat sand.

Someone here even put down the statistics for u. U make money or not u still wan geh kiang. Haiz...go go go.

Make sure u got money renovate after buying.

I'm telling u this not from some1 that don't own anything. I have condo in town. Stayed rent out and move to 3 storey landed house just slightly outskirt. But totally regret. Now looking to move back to town. Up to u.
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My opinion differs from yours.
I used to live and own a condo in town. Now move and live in landed property outskirt.
No regret at all. I really prefer landed property in outskirt. Kids happy, family happy and pet happy.
Spending some extra time on the road is just a small sacrifice for me for the kids, family, and pet. :-)

My next goal is to buy a Tesla with autopilot and install a solar panel.

If I am in a condo, owning a Tesla will be a pain (no place to charge the car) and I cant save money on electricity e.g. solar panel.


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post Jul 18 2023, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Jul 18 2023, 02:58 PM)
U asking for opinion, we tell u the best we can. We say go buy landed 2nd hand near town. U wan worry developer bankrup eat sand. Ok la. Go la go go. Go help the the developer and u eat sand.

Someone here even put down the statistics for u. U make money or not u still wan geh kiang. Haiz...go go go.

Make sure u got money renovate after buying.

I'm telling u this not from some1 that don't own anything. I have condo in town. Stayed rent out and move to 3 storey landed house just slightly outskirt. But totally regret. Now looking to move back to town. Up to u.
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Hi can share where is the slightly out skirt place that you regretted? Issit because the longer travelling time or lack of amenities?
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post Jul 18 2023, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(arffrhn @ Jul 18 2023, 09:20 PM)
Or Gamuda Cove for that matter. I think Gamuda Cove is like a mix of Gamuda Garden and Jade Hills.
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Oh I agree with you, GC really feel like a mixed of GG and JH. I love their Japanese concept and spalshmania. Not to mentioned their master plan including a lot of other commercial development including medical centre too

QUOTE(hampc @ Jul 18 2023, 10:17 PM)
My opinion differs from yours.
I used to live and own a condo in town. Now move and live in landed property outskirt.
No regret at all. I really prefer landed property in outskirt. Kids happy, family happy and pet happy.
Spending some extra time on the road is just a small sacrifice for me for the kids, family, and pet. :-)

My next goal is to buy a Tesla with autopilot and install a solar panel.

If I am in a condo, owning a Tesla will be a pain (no place to charge the car) and I cant save money on electricity e.g. solar panel.
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Nice. Very nice plan. Just I didn't know Tesla can install solar panel. I think you can also include solar panel installation on your landed house
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post Jul 18 2023, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Jul 18 2023, 09:54 PM)
for last few decade, people said the same thing also.. like bandar sunway , leasehold, deep inside jungle, mining land, etc... u see today
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You cannot compare with last time, last time we are still a undeveloped country.
land is something static and vicinity within KV is limited. You simply can't create another Kuala Lumpur or Bandar Sunway out of some land. Eg. Cyberjaya?

Unless there is a shift of populations due to government policy such as moving a city to another one. It could happen but rare.

Try your luck to predict another Bandar Sunway or Petaling Jaya.
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post Jul 18 2023, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 18 2023, 11:11 PM)

Nice. Very nice plan. Just I didn't know Tesla can install solar panel. I think you can also include solar panel installation on your landed house
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Yes u can.
My monthly electricity cost average around myr500-myr700 ( 8 aircons, lights, fan etc)
Current monthly petrol cost myr300-400.
Cost to install solar panel myr20k-25k (depending on number of solar panels)

It makes sense for me to install solar panels and get a Tesla.(number wise)




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post Jul 19 2023, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(augusta23 @ Jul 18 2023, 10:49 PM)
Hi can share where is the slightly out skirt place that you regretted? Issit because the longer travelling time or lack of amenities?
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Seri kembangan
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post Jul 19 2023, 09:02 AM

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There are lots of comments on purchasing landed vs high rise. I think investors/ owners of landed property are not stupid. We know that rental yield is very low for landed and we know that new townships with affordable landed products ( below 1 million) are all far away. To play the landed game, it needs to be a long term horizon with capital appreciation as potential upside( but not guaranteed)

So based on the latest recommendation , best freehold landed area to recommend with a price of 750-800k in no particular order. Preferably gated and guarded with potential growth of township in the next 10-20 years

Setia ecohill
Eco majestic
Gamuda garden
Setia alam
Bandar rimbayu
Tropicana kajang

Anything else?

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post Jul 19 2023, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(wolftheyorkie @ Jul 19 2023, 09:02 AM)
There are lots of comments on purchasing landed vs high rise. I think investors/ owners of landed property are not stupid. We know that rental yield is very low for landed and we know that new townships with affordable landed products ( below 1 million) are all far away. To play the landed game, it needs to be a long term horizon with capital appreciation as potential upside( but not guaranteed)

So based on the latest recommendation , best freehold landed area to recommend with a price of 750-800k in no particular order. Preferably gated and guarded with potential growth of township in the next 10-20 years

Setia ecohill
Eco majestic
Gamuda garden
Setia alam
Bandar rimbayu
Tropicana kajang

Anything else?
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Worth checking out Emerald Rawang and Templer Anggun City. The spillovers are great. To forumers, drop by to see before simply commenting negatively. Every development has pros and cons.

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post Jul 19 2023, 02:59 PM

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Elite highway is the then Federal highway.

Just me, you can never go wrong with air&sea freight route
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post Jul 19 2023, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(wolftheyorkie @ Jul 19 2023, 09:02 AM)
There are lots of comments on purchasing landed vs high rise. I think investors/ owners of landed property are not stupid. We know that rental yield is very low for landed and we know that new townships with affordable landed products ( below 1 million) are all far away. To play the landed game, it needs to be a long term horizon with capital appreciation as potential upside( but not guaranteed)

So based on the latest recommendation , best freehold landed area to recommend with a price of 750-800k in no particular order. Preferably gated and guarded with potential growth of township in the next 10-20 years

Setia ecohill
Eco majestic
Gamuda garden
Setia alam
Bandar rimbayu
Tropicana kajang

Anything else?
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Just my RM0.02 cents view.
I would not prefer Eco Majestic or only selected part of Ecohill.
Both have been in development for a number of years and the biggest stumbling block for this 2 township is the lack of high paying job opportunities in the vicinity. The thought of WFH will provide some catalyst to this 2 township to grow seems to have fizzled. The newly opened mall seems to have gave it a minor boost but not sure if it is sustainable in the long run.

Bandar Rimbayu, ES, 257 and Aman seems a better bet. It can enjoy spillover demand from Klang, Puchong, Shah Alam and Subang Jaya. Proximity to Shah Alam industries provide employment opportunities and steady growth of population in establish location gives it potential.
Only downside is it leasehold status which some ppl will be reluctant to proceed. If freehold is a must Setia Alam Impian will provide a choice not too far away.

The floods in Klang area will also drive demand for housing located in these areas as many will want to move out but not move too far away from their familiar locale.

Moving on to Gamuda Cove, Warisan, Suncity, Greenwoods, Coalfields and Serenia, these shouldn't be ignored but you"ll need to choose very carefully. Their proximity to KLIA , Xiamen, ERL, Cyberjaya, Putrajaya and ELITE highway gives it potential. If Cyberjaya does develop it's tram mobility services, there is a possibility for it to be extended to nearby development for economy of scale. A curious observation is that GC sometimes promote itself as close to Cyberjaya with their direct link, giving the impression that being associated to Cyberjaya is good but when you look at their properties prices, they are on par or even some are priced more expensive than the landed in Cyberjaya. It's like my project has a direct link to Damansara Height but my properties are also higher priced that Damansara Height?

At 1 time, ppl bought property in Nilai or Seremban 2 but travel to work in KL, these township now gives them some options and possibility to relocate to these township from Seremban or Nilai. Creating a pull or push factor.

Notable mention should be Bandar Enstek. Huge land bank, near KLIA in Sepang but again too far away from any major catalyst. Can the developer do better?

Another notable mention is Elmina but I see it more as an extension of Denai Alam which itself was an extension of Bukit Jelutong. I've not done any in-depth study of Bukit Jelutong and Denai Alam but just generally speaking, the appreciation "feel" (I use the word feel as I don't have data to support myself) rather mooted or stagnant. I feel Setia Alam and Eco Ardence is more vibrant and in demand than this 2 township. Not sure if Elmina will suffer the same fate as the other 2 township but initial response from subsale buyers of the early phase seems good. Again, not sure if this is sustainable as later phase has gone up in prices from developer. Timing, location and entry point are key factors here.

I would say instead of looking for capital appreciation from landed, I would look for capital preservation i.e. the value of the property will increase in tandem with inflation to protect my real purchasing power. A good property will do that and a bit more extra.

Happy hunting...ya
And please take the above with a bucket of salt....ya


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