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hampc
post Jul 17 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(wolftheyorkie @ Jul 16 2023, 11:22 PM)
For investment
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If for landed property investment...LH or FH does not really matter as much.
Main thing to consider is if the place can be 'ong' or not.
You will typically know the place is 'ong' if the place has a certain type of demographics and characteristics (young families, SRJK schools, lots of non halal food choices, traffic jams)
Old day PJ, Subang, USJ, Puchong, Sunway, etc all started like that until they become mature like today.
Lots of capital appreciation over time to reap for those invested in these areas.

I think all these below are fine.
1) setia ecohill Semenyih fully gated and guarded ( precinct 2 and 3). Individual title but with DMC. Very well maintained township with a neighbourhood mall and clubhouse
2) Elmina Green. Individual title but not gated and guarded. Very good location closer to subang
3) Eco Majestic Semenyih. Strata title. Very well maintained . A bit pricey
4) Tropicana Kajang townhouse: Strata title. Nice location but it’s not a double storey terrace

I would add Bandar Rimbayu/ Tropicana Aman/Gamuda 257 areas into the list too.

Good luck.

hampc
post Jul 18 2023, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Jul 18 2023, 02:58 PM)
U asking for opinion, we tell u the best we can. We say go buy landed 2nd hand near town. U wan worry developer bankrup eat sand. Ok la. Go la go go. Go help the the developer and u eat sand.

Someone here even put down the statistics for u. U make money or not u still wan geh kiang. Haiz...go go go.

Make sure u got money renovate after buying.

I'm telling u this not from some1 that don't own anything. I have condo in town. Stayed rent out and move to 3 storey landed house just slightly outskirt. But totally regret. Now looking to move back to town. Up to u.
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My opinion differs from yours.
I used to live and own a condo in town. Now move and live in landed property outskirt.
No regret at all. I really prefer landed property in outskirt. Kids happy, family happy and pet happy.
Spending some extra time on the road is just a small sacrifice for me for the kids, family, and pet. :-)

My next goal is to buy a Tesla with autopilot and install a solar panel.

If I am in a condo, owning a Tesla will be a pain (no place to charge the car) and I cant save money on electricity e.g. solar panel.


hampc
post Jul 18 2023, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 18 2023, 11:11 PM)

Nice. Very nice plan. Just I didn't know Tesla can install solar panel. I think you can also include solar panel installation on your landed house
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Yes u can.
My monthly electricity cost average around myr500-myr700 ( 8 aircons, lights, fan etc)
Current monthly petrol cost myr300-400.
Cost to install solar panel myr20k-25k (depending on number of solar panels)

It makes sense for me to install solar panels and get a Tesla.(number wise)




hampc
post Jul 19 2023, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jul 19 2023, 03:30 PM)


Bandar Rimbayu, ES, 257 and Aman seems a better bet. It can enjoy spillover demand from Klang, Puchong, Shah Alam and Subang Jaya. Proximity to Shah Alam industries provide employment opportunities and steady growth of population in establish location gives it potential.
Only downside is it leasehold status which some ppl will be reluctant to proceed. If freehold is a must Setia Alam Impian will provide a choice not too far away.

The floods in Klang area will also drive demand for housing located in these areas as many will want to move out but not move too far away from their familiar locale.


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Good analysis and observations. Thank you.
I have been to all the townships listed.
Definitely agree with your analysis on this ' Bandar Rimbayu, ES, 257 and Aman seems a better bet.'
LH status does not bother me. The location is superb to absorb all the spillover from neighboring Klang, Shah Alam, Puchong, Subang Jaya, USJ, PJ and its in between Port Klang, manufacturing hub, industrial and logistics hub and not too far from KLIA, Cyberjaya,Putrajaya.
Demographics wise also not bad. ...lots of young families moving in, non halal food choices, international schools, SRJK schools, special ed schools, etc
One can feel the 'ong' atmosphere/feeling just like the early days of Subang, Sunway, Puchong at the location
The highway connectivity needs to be improved further though.
hampc
post Jul 19 2023, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jul 19 2023, 03:30 PM)

I would say instead of looking for capital appreciation from landed, I would look for capital preservation i.e. the value of the property will increase in tandem with inflation to protect my real purchasing power. A good property will do that and a bit more extra.

Happy hunting...ya
And please take the above with a bucket of salt....ya
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Another good point.
Capital protection and preservation from inflation etc should be the goal nowadays.
A good property will do that with a bit extra ((land price rising and housing demand from the population)

hampc
post Jul 22 2023, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Jul 21 2023, 08:54 AM)
Bosses,
I'm not saying Elmina is not good.
I'm just highlighting the possibility it might not achieve what the thread starter wanted in terms of capital appreciation. Using Bukit Jelutong and Denai Alam as a guide, the appreciation feel rather stagnant if you refer to Napic report for 1st half of 2022. However, it doesn't mean there is no appreciation. If the TS or bosses here expect the psf to hit RN1kpsf in 10 years time, then it's very unlikely but a modest rate might be achievable. It's about expectation of your ROI which different individuals will have different ROI expectations. That's why I moved away from appreciation to say it is better to look at capital preservation in line with inflation rate. This is a more define level where everyone can relate to and if the increase goes above the inflation rate, then it's extra.

In regards to catalyst, the ECRL in Puncak Alam, if I am not mistaken, it is a passenger only station (please double check, I vaguely remember seeing this at a website report) which means it lack the goods handling capabilities at the station.

In terms of air freight, it doesn't help much as air freight cost is extremely high. Of course it also depends on type of goods, hence the industrial lots could be for niche market. It really difficult to say what is the outcome of the industrial lots but in terms of location far away from main port, I would say it is at a disadvantage. Unless prices are attractive and compensating factors can mitigate the distance issue. There will still be buyers as some might be find it appealing if there base of operation is around that area. Many factors to consider when looking at industrial lots.

Schools are important and boost the place up. Especially Chinese school but it does take time especially where the initial teachers are coming from and for the school to establish itself. Other township also have schools, even better schools and their houses price could be more attractive, potential buyers or the market will compare and evaluate.

As I said, it's good but you have to see your entry price and compare vis a vis with other township nearby.

Looking at it has schools, highway, industrial lots, malls etc in silo without comparison is not a good way to arrive at a conclusion. You have to make comparison and manage your expectations.

Hope bosses find the above sharing from a toilets cleaner helpful.

Have to start washing toilets, almost 9.00am
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In my opinion, having an ECRL train station at the proximity has its pros and cons.
Pros: If one needs to go the east coast of Penisula Malaysia often e.g. balik kampung etc

Cons: 1) Traffic congestion from train passengers heading to and from the train station
2) Noisy train sound and noise pollution
3) and potentially industrial train accidents like those happening in US e.g. h t t p s : / / www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/ohio-train-derailment-hazardous-
chemical-polluted-air-rcna93640


For me, the cons outweigh the pros. if given a choice I would not choose to live anywhere near an ECRL station but for someone with relatives on the east coast...it could be a different story.


 

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