On a cool Sunday evening in March, a geochemist named Sun Weidong gave a public lecture to an audience of laymen, students, and professors at the University of Science and Technology in Hefei, the capital city of the landlocked province of Anhui in eastern China. But the professor didn’t just talk about geochemistry. He also cited several ancient Chinese classics, at one point quoting historian Sima Qian’s description of the topography of the Xia empire — traditionally regarded as China’s founding dynasty, dating from 2070 to 1600 B.C. “Northwards the stream is divided and becomes the nine rivers,” wrote Sima Qian in his first century historiography, the Records of the Grand Historian. “Reunited, it forms the opposing river and flows into the sea.”

In other words, “the stream” in question wasn’t China’s famed Yellow River, which flows from west to east. “There is only one major river in the world which flows northwards. Which one is it?” the professor asked. “The Nile,” someone replied. Sun then showed a map of the famed Egyptian river and its delta — with nine of its distributaries flowing into the Mediterranean. This author, a researcher at the same institute, watched as audience members broke into smiles and murmurs, intrigued that these ancient Chinese texts seemed to better agree with the geography of Egypt than that of China.

In the past year, Sun, a highly decorated scientist, has ignited a passionate online debate with claims that the founders of Chinese civilization were not in any sense Chinese but actually migrants from Egypt. He conceived of this connection in the 1990s while performing radiometric dating of ancient Chinese bronzes; to his surprise, their chemical composition more closely resembled those of ancient Egyptian bronzes than native Chinese ores. Both Sun’s ideas and the controversy surrounding them flow out of a much older tradition of nationalist archaeology in China, which for more than a century has sought to answer a basic scientific question that has always been heavily politicized: Where do the Chinese people come from?

Sun argues that China’s Bronze Age technology, widely thought by scholars to have first entered the northwest of the country through the prehistoric Silk Road, actually came by sea. According to him, its bearers were the Hyksos, the Western Asian people who ruled parts of northern Egypt as foreigners between the 17th and 16th centuries B.C., until their eventual expulsion. He notes that the Hyksos possessed at an earlier date almost all the same remarkable technology — bronze metallurgy, chariots, literacy, domesticated plants and animals — that archaeologists discovered at the ancient city of Yin, the capital of China’s second dynasty, the Shang, between 1300 and 1046 B.C. Since the Hyksos are known to have developed ships for war and trade that enabled them to sail the Red and Mediterranean seas, Sun speculates that a small population escaped their collapsing dynasty using seafaring technology that eventually brought them and their Bronze Age culture to the coast of China.

China's historical records are very long. 100 years ago, the Chinese people knew more about Chinese ancestors coming from the West, but the Qing government stopped research on this issue. Over the past decade, this issue has been rediscussed in China. Su San and Liu Guangbao both wrote books to demonstrate that ancient Egypt are the Chinese Xia Dynasty.



Egyptian ‹mỉw› ‘cat’ — Mandarin 貓 (māo) ‘cat’
Sahidic Coptic ⲧⲱⲃⲉ /tōbe/ ‘brick’ — Mandarin 土坯 (tǔpī) ‘mud brick, adobe’
Egyptian ‹rꜥ› ‘sun, Ra’ — Mandarin 日 (rì) ‘sun, day’
Egyptian ‹mw.t› ‘mother’ — Mandarin 母 (mǔ) ‘mother’
Egyptian ‹tꜣ› ‘land, realm’ — Old Chinese 土 *t�ˤa� ‘earth’
Egyptian ‹ꜣpd› ‘birds, water fowl’ — Cantonese 鴨 (aap) ‘duck’
Coptic ϩⲟ /ho/ ‘face’ — Haikou Minnan 头 /hau̯˧˩/ ‘head’
Egyptian ‹bỉt› ‘honey’ — Hokkien 蜜 (bi̍t) ‘honey’
Egyptian ‹hꜣỉ› ‘to fall’ — Shantou Minnan 下 /hi̯a˧˥/ ‘to fall’
Egyptian ‹ḫꜥỉ› ‘to shine’ — Mandarin 輝 (huī) ‘brightness; to shine upon’
Egyptian ‹sꜣ› ‘son’ — Old Chinese 子 *tsə� ‘child, son’
Egyptian ‹ṯs› ‘sentence’ — Mandarin 句子 (jùzi) ‘sentence’
Egyptian ‹ḏw› ‘to be bad’ — Mandarin 臭 (chòu) ‘bad smell; to be bad’
Late Egyptian ‹pr ꜥꜣ› ‘pharaoh’ (lit. ‘big house’) — Mandarin 法老 (fǎlǎo) ‘pharaoh’


The best way to prove this idea is to decipher ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs using Chinese as the key. Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs are Chinese v1.0. Using Chinese pronunciations and historical materials to investigate ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, the early history of mankind, and the Xia Dynasty in China appear.

The sketchy historical record has left room for more esoteric theories about Sanxingdui to flourish. For years, a conspiracy theory claiming the site is the remains of an alien civilization has been circulating in China.

According to this theory, extra-terrestrials came to Earth over 5,000 years ago and built a string of settlements along the 30th parallel north. This led to the creation of the Egyptian pyramids, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, the Mayan civilization, as well as the lost city in Sichuan province. The aliens then exited the planet through a wormhole in Bermuda, the story goes.

Despite carbon dating showing the sacrificial pits were made 2,000 years after the aliens’ supposed stay on Earth, the alien hypothesis has gained significant traction on the Chinese internet.

A more reasonable theory posits that Sanxingdui was founded by foreign settlers. Zhu Dake, a renowned cultural scholar affiliated with Shanghai’s Tongji University, has suggested the city was built by travelers from the Middle East or ancient Egypt.

we wuz kangs and shiet

5000 years of history and Chinese actually a pendatang asing?

Well chinese have habit of travelling everywhere. Almost every major city have Chinatown. Whitetown mana ada

Sanusi logic states China belongs to Egypt

Nanti LTZ triggered

Interesting

I do see the correlation Egypt and China's history

It is not shocking Pharaoh's times are one of the highest civilizations in the world

And China copy from it

imagine the claim is on the ehem almighty r*******

Atenism, also known as the Aten religion,[1] the Amarna religion,[2] and the Amarna heresy, was a religion in ancient Egypt. It was founded by Akhenaten, a pharaoh who ruled the New Kingdom under the Eighteenth Dynasty.[3] The religion is described as monotheistic or monolatristic, although some Egyptologists argue that it was actually henotheistic.[4] Atenism was centred on the cult of Aten, a god depicted as the disc of the Sun. Aten was originally an aspect of Ra, Egypt's traditional solar deity, though he was later asserted by Akhenaten as being the superior of all deities.

In the 14th century BC, Atenism was Egypt's state religion for around 20 years, and Akhenaten met the worship of other gods with persecution; he closed many traditional temples, instead commissioning the construction of Atenist temples, and also suppressed religious traditionalists. However, subsequent pharaohs toppled the movement in the aftermath of Akhenaten's death, thereby restoring Egyptian civilization's traditional polytheistic religion. Large-scale efforts were then undertaken to remove from Egypt and Egyptian records any presence or mention of Akhenaten, Atenist temples, and Atenist assertions of a uniquely supreme god.

Akhenaten carried out a radical program of religious reform. For about twenty years, he largely supplanted the age-old beliefs and practices of the Egyptian state religion, and deposed its religious hierarchy, headed by the powerful priesthood of Amun at Thebes. For fifteen centuries, the Egyptians had worshiped an extended family of gods and goddesses, each of which had its own elaborate system of priests, temples, shrines and rituals. A key feature of the cults was the veneration of images and statues of the gods, which were worshipped in the dark confines of the temples.

The pinnacle of the religious hierarchy was the Pharaoh, both king and living god. The administration of the Egyptian kingdom was thus inextricably bound up with and largely controlled by the power and influence of the priests and scribes. Akhenaten's reforms cut away both the philosophical and economic bases of priestly power, abolishing the cults of all other deities and, with them, the large and lucrative industry of sacrifices and tributes that the priests controlled.

At the same time, he strengthened the role of the Pharaoh. Dominic Montserrat, analyzing the various versions of the hymns to the Aten, argues that all versions of the hymns focus on the king; he suggests that the real innovation is to redefine the relationship of god and king in a way that benefited Akhenaten, quoting a statement of Egyptologist John Baines: "Amarna religion was a religion of god and king, or even of king first and then god".[12][13]

Initially, Akhenaten presented Aten to the Egyptian people as a variant of the familiar supreme deity Amun-Ra (itself the result of an earlier rise to prominence of the cult of Amun, resulting in Amun becoming merged with the sun god Ra), in an attempt to put his ideas in a familiar religious context. 'Aten' is the name given to the solar disc, and the full title of Akhenaten's god was "Ra-Horus, who rejoices in the horizon in his name of the light which is in the sun disc". (That is the title of the god as it appears on numerous stelae, placed to mark the boundaries of Akhenaten's new capital at Akhetaten.)

However, in the ninth year of his reign, Akhenaten declared a more radical version of his new religion by declaring Aten not merely the supreme god but the only god, and Akhenaten as the son of Aten was the only intermediary between the Aten and his people.[14] He ordered the defacing of Amun's temples throughout Egypt. Key features of Atenism included a ban on idols and other images of the Aten, with the exception of a rayed solar disc in which the rays, commonly depicted as ending in hands, appear to represent the unseen spirit of Aten. Later still, even this was done away with.[15][16]

The idea that Akhenaten was the pioneer of a monotheistic religion that later became Judaism has been considered by various scholars.[235][236][237][238][239] One of the first to mention this was Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis, in his book Moses and Monotheism.[235] Basing his arguments on his belief that the Exodus story was historical, Freud argued that Moses had been an Atenist priest who was forced to leave Egypt with his followers after Akhenaten's death. Freud argued that Akhenaten was striving to promote monotheism, something that the biblical Moses was able to achieve.[235] Following the publication of his book, the concept entered popular consciousness and serious research.[240][241]

Freud commented on the connection between Adonai, the Egyptian Aten and the Syrian divine name of Adonis as stemming from a common root;[235] in this he was following the argument of Egyptologist Arthur Weigall. Jan Assmann's opinion is that 'Aten' and 'Adonai' are not linguistically related.[242]

There are strong similarities between Akhenaten's Great Hymn to the Aten and the Biblical Psalm 104, but there is debate as to relationship implied by this similarity.[243][244]

Others have likened some aspects of Akhenaten's relationship with the Aten to the relationship, in Christian tradition, between Jesus Christ and God, particularly interpretations that emphasize a more monotheistic interpretation of Atenism than a henotheistic one. Donald B. Redford has noted that some have viewed Akhenaten as a harbinger of Jesus. "After all, Akhenaten did call himself the son of the sole god: 'Thine only son that came forth from thy body'."[245] James Henry Breasted likened him to Jesus,[246] Arthur Weigall saw him as a failed precursor of Christ and Thomas Mann saw him "as right on the way and yet not the right one for the way".[247]

Although scholars like Brian Fagan (2015) and Robert Alter (2018) have re-opened the debate, in 1997, Redford concluded:

Before much of the archaeological evidence from Thebes and from Tell el-Amarna became available, wishful thinking sometimes turned Akhenaten into a humane teacher of the true God, a mentor of Moses, a christlike figure, a philosopher before his time. But these imaginary creatures are now fading away as the historical reality gradually emerges. There is little or no evidence to support the notion that Akhenaten was a progenitor of the full-blown monotheism that we find in the Bible. The monotheism of the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament had its own separate development—one that began more than half a millennium after the pharaoh's death.[248]

Interesting

I do see the correlation Egypt and China's history

It is not shocking Pharaoh's times are one of the highest civilizations in the world

And China copy from it

This hypothesis really does not mean much, even if it were true because ancient Egypt bears zero relation to the Hua Xia civilization. It is like saying humanity originates from Africa but do we actually feel the connection to BLM ?

Isn't it Abit late to dig this cerita out Again?

sorry i just came out from cave

and discovered this thing internet

5000 years of history and Chinese actually a pendatang asing?

huangdi is pendatang, some scholar claim he was from babylon, yandi is native, a miao. basing on this assertion, han chinese was pendatang that conquered china. national anthem during yuan shikai tell clearly chinese ancestry is babylon. some may ask why babylon, at that time, many chinese were whites wannabe, they look down on brown black red and believe whites was the most superior, they feel proud to know that yellow and whites were one family.

this?

China heroically stands in the universe,
Extending to the Eight Corners,
Descendants come from Kunlun Peak.
The rivers turn great and the mountains continue.
Five races open up the sky of Yao,
For many years to come.

correct.

and some chinese always bring out the topic of red indian genocide, they shd asked themselves why the ccp  55 ethnicity have no 匈奴、鲜卑、羌、铁勒、柔然、回纥、突厥、沙陀、党项、 契丹、女真、西夏 etc etc?

correct.

and some chinese always bring out the topic of red indian genocide, they shd asked themselves why the ccp  55 ethnicity have no 匈奴、鲜卑、羌、铁勒、柔然、回纥、突厥、沙陀、党项、 契丹、女真、西夏 etc etc?

never heard of that

where did those tribes went?

Why not ask ROC what happen to Taiwan original Chinese and aborigines during white Terror?

roc is pirate and bandit like prc.

roc is pirate and bandit like prc.

India the best loh

I always knew I got me some sand nigga DNA

never knew china got weed

Cannabis in China is illegal except for industrial purposes (hemp)[1] and some forms of medicine. Historically, cannabis has been used in China for fiber, seeds, as a traditional medicine, as well as for some ritual purposes within Taoism.

Má (Mandarin pronunciation: [mǎ]), a Chinese word for cannabis, is represented by the Han character 麻.[2][3][4] The term ma, used to describe medical marijuana by 2700 BCE, is the oldest recorded name for the hemp plant. [5]

The word ma has been used to describe the cannabis plant since before the invention of writing five-thousand years ago. Ma might share a common root with the Proto-Semitic word mrr, meaning "bitter."[citation needed] Evidence of the earliest human cultivation of cannabis was found in Taiwan.[6][7][8] Ancient Chinese prose and poems, including poetry in the Shi jing (Book of Odes), mention the word ma many times. An early song refers to young women weaving ma into clothing.[2][9][8]

The word ma is often paired with the Chinese word for "big" or "great" to form the compound word dama or 大麻 (dàmá). Dama is sometimes used to describe industrial hemp, as there is a negative connotation meaning "numbness" associated with the word ma by itself.[10][11] Historical Chinese medical texts (c. 200 CE) through contemporary twentieth century Chinese medical literature discuss individual terms for ma, including mafen (麻蕡), mahua (麻花), and mabo (麻勃), referring to specific parts of the male and female flowers of a cannabis plant with differing cannabinoid ratios.[12]

Cannabis has been confirmed to have originated in Northwest China before the Ancient Chinese domesticated the plant to India and other parts of Asia, particularly the Central Asian steppe in 10,000 BC.[13] In the 19th century, Xinjiang province was a major producer and exporter of hashish, with Yarkand being a major center.[14] Tens of thousands of kilograms annually were exported to British India, legally and under tariff, until 1934 when Chinese authorities cut off the legal trade, though smuggling continued for some years after.[15]

According to the Ministry of Public Security in 2015, cannabis use was on the rise among Chinese youth.

Interesting

I do see the correlation Egypt and China's history

It is not shocking Pharaoh's times are one of the highest civilizations in the world

And China copy from it

correct.

and some chinese always bring out the topic of red indian genocide, they shd asked themselves why the ccp  55 ethnicity have no 匈奴、鲜卑、羌、铁勒、柔然、回纥、突厥、沙陀、党项、 契丹、女真、西夏 etc etc?

Dude. Some of these were absorbed into the Han culture before the world knows what the fuck is communism or Karl Marx or Mao Tse Tung.

how and why being absorbed is that diff with most native worldwide including america? so china or usa is not unique, the difference is timing. han chinese shd look at the mirror when accusing the genocide of red indian, and imperialism.

never knew china got weed

how and why being absorbed is that diff with most native worldwide including america? so china or usa is not unique, the difference is timing. han chinese shd look at the mirror when accusing the genocide of red indian, and imperialism.

i wish u would defend china like how u defend your murican daddy when ur daddy accuse of xinjiang genocide. but i guess i wont see that. kek

LOL. I'm not saying the "Chinese" Dynasties were right to do that. But what you are suggesting is the PRC should not comment about Red Indian situation in USA?

how and why being absorbed is that diff with most native worldwide including america? so china or usa is not unique, the difference is timing. han chinese shd look at the mirror when accusing the genocide of red indian, and imperialism.

i wish u would defend china like how u defend your murican daddy when ur daddy accuse of xinjiang genocide. but i guess i wont see that. kek

why look at mirror? just cos one group did something, it doesn't mean the other group is not capable of doing the same thing....

From Babel

read kmt/roc history from 1927 to 1987, they are not that diff with ccp/prc

I cannot take your reply seriously anymore when as West Worshipper you dare condemn ROC

babel is babylon right?

when the cowboy stop shooting red indian on the street, they expect others to do the same. since we know shooting red indian / native is wrong, we blame the one that still do it today, for eg komunis.

correct.

and some chinese always bring out the topic of red indian genocide, they shd asked themselves why the ccp  55 ethnicity have no 匈奴、鲜卑、羌、铁勒、柔然、回纥、突厥、沙陀、党项、 契丹、女真、西夏 etc etc?

I cannot take your reply seriously anymore when as West Worshipper you dare condemn ROC

ur angmoh daddy they do be shooting ppl on the street thou.

everyday live action

white shoot mostly white bother you?

sometimes u wonder what these ppl racing are? chinese? he hates his root so much ?

every country ppl that get invaded hate the invaders. but he hate his own root but not the invaders.

very close to taiwanese thinking. japan gor gor invaded them, but taiwanese love die their japanese gor gor.

must be someone with very low self esteem that cannot look at their own root and just be proud of/or at least accepting it

get rid of your hatred, japanese no more wanting to invade taiwan, komunis are.

syrian? afghan? iraqian ?

fight back to mainland is not komunis quote thou

thats sort of invasion, is wrong, like russian and komunis.

when are you going to tell russian and komunis are wrong?

and the red indian was not an invasion ?

this subject to debate and proper definition. if han chinese killing minority surrounded yellow river basin is deem invasion, then killing red indian is deemed invasion as well. or in malaysia, orang asli also kena invaded by malay chinese indian.

5000 years of history and Chinese actually a pendatang asing?

the idea of the abrahamic religions

could of originated from egypt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism
sounds like John 3:16

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten#Akh...hamic_religions

which explains my genuine appreciation for the exquisite flavors of shawarma

All thanks to her.

From Babel

A study has energized a century-long debate at the heart of China's national identity. - https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/02/did-ch...ional-identity/
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