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desmond2020
post Jul 3 2023, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jul 3 2023, 01:31 PM)
What is the cost vs this?
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just lay the radiant reflector on ceiling there i think at least save 50% of material.

and this is just radiant reflector, your rain noise will still be there unless you add insulation layer.
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jul 3 2023, 02:30 PM)
Mind sharing the Melaka one?
I'm closer with it since I'm from Johor.
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The catalogue I shared has a Melaka address (supposedly comes from there I guess?)
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:40 PM

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my house 2nd floor got a room full of glass

though facing south but the side there expose to sun making the room hot though tinted

so recently i renovate the room, to put woods panel cover the window i install the foil with bubble wrap triple layer becasue 1 roll was really alot using double side sticker

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RESULT

on the hottest day during noon , the room wasnt hot at all
amazing cheap solution
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Jul 3 2023, 12:34 PM)
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Decided to do a radiant barrier installation on the roof instead. How I did was:

1. Purchase material rolls directly from supplier (Find supplier from Shopee/Lazada and contact them to do pickup orders), comes in ~40-48m per rolls. Found 3 suppliers, 1 in Kajang, 1 P. Pinang & 1 Melaka. Just find the closest to you.
2. Find contractor to do roofing works, show video
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Jul 3 2023, 12:51 PM)
Don't have a temp. gun on hand so didn't measure, but I don't get headaches anymore for the whole week living on 2nd floor. Other family members also commented on it being noticeably cooler.
All you need is some air/insulation gap to the roof tiles, but might be hard to install if not much clearance. Mine is not a very high sloped roof design.
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My guess. Before installation, temperature likely around 32c ish

After installation,.around 27ish
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:41 PM

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My 40 years old years house already comes with this thermal barrier, yup it do block direct radiant heat from the rooft shingles.

Now in some area, the barrier already crumbling down, no barrier left and I can feel the radiant heat heating up my ceiling.



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post Jul 3 2023, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 3 2023, 01:34 PM)
just lay the radiant reflector on ceiling there i think at least save 50% of material.

and this is just radiant reflector, your rain noise will still be there unless you add insulation layer.
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This will save some cost but wont be as effective to shield the heat. Shielding below the roof tile will stop the radiation from heating the air in the roof thus reducing the heat transfer in both radiation and conduction. If you shield only the ceiling, the heat from the roof tiles will heat up the air in the roof area and trap the heat become like greenhouse.
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:44 PM

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wait so, what the difference with heat insulation?
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(transcend_2000 @ Jul 3 2023, 01:22 PM)
is the product obtained SIRIM/BOMBA certificate?
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The roof heat insulation membrane no need bomba cert wan, only the plaster ceiling board need to be class 0, can check your state ubbl uniform building by laws
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Jul 3 2023, 01:38 PM)
The catalogue I shared has a Melaka address (supposedly comes from there I guess?)
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okay, will check it out.
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Jul 3 2023, 12:34 PM)
Disclaimer: Not a sponsored post. Just sharing a project done last week.

So the house that I'm living in is a corner lot facing the setting sun, the radiant heat during evening can be very unbearable & headache inducing.  bangwall.gif
Wanted to do some low cost project this year to make it cooler somehow, some ideas that I thought of:

1. Install roof turbine (Installed previously, didn't help much)
2. Install some buffer / facade wall / agriculture netting on the outside (mounting issue)
3. Time-based water sprinkler on the outside (mouldy walls)

Decided to do a radiant barrier installation on the roof instead. How I did was:

1. Purchase material rolls directly from supplier (Find supplier from Shopee/Lazada and contact them to do pickup orders), comes in ~40-48m per rolls. Found 3 suppliers, 1 in Kajang, 1 P. Pinang & 1 Melaka. Just find the closest to you.
2. Find contractor to do roofing works, show video instruction on how to do.
3. 1 / 2 days job depending on roof size / design, contractor provide tools & labour.




Feedbacks & comments:
1. Cost = RM170/roll for 48m roll, bought 4 only used up 2.75 (House buildup 30*65). Labour+tools = Rm700
Total cost RM1.4k-ish. Not sure yet what to do with the leftovers.

2. Good quality product, does not tear easily (woven) and warranty is 15 years.

3. Workmanship not that important (could be better aesthetically, but not as important to serve intended purpose)  sweat.gif

4. Pretty good results for a low-cost passive solution (no numerical temp. measurement done before / after, but 2nd floor is noticeably cooler in the evening)  thumbsup.gif


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what if you paint your outer rooftop with glossy white .. gonna be cooler I bet....
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(wkchia @ Jul 3 2023, 01:43 PM)
This will save some cost but wont be as effective to shield the heat. Shielding below the roof tile will stop the radiation from heating the air in the roof thus reducing the heat transfer in both radiation and conduction. If you shield only the ceiling, the heat from the roof tiles will heat up the air in the roof area and trap the heat become like greenhouse.
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that look like a ventilated roof, the temperature won't get that high. the main heat flux will still be the radiant from hot roof tiles.
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:51 PM

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Basically fiberglass wool with aluminium sheet. Warehouse uses these. It's very effective.
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jul 3 2023, 12:44 PM)
TS sure it's not placebo effect?
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This method has been established in building sciences. Even the cheapest material would reduce the heat somewhat. So definitely not placebo.
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:51 PM

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Parking for future reference. Macam yes smile.gif
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:52 PM

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Someone posted this last month.
You dupe?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5384462

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Jul 3 2023, 01:55 PM
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post Jul 3 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(wkchia @ Jul 3 2023, 01:43 PM)
This will save some cost but wont be as effective to shield the heat. Shielding below the roof tile will stop the radiation from heating the air in the roof thus reducing the heat transfer in both radiation and conduction. If you shield only the ceiling, the heat from the roof tiles will heat up the air in the roof area and trap the heat become like greenhouse.
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somehow.. I Agree more on this, instead put shield btm of the roof that has been exposed thru the bright sun for 8 hours or more daily... better make good of the outer layer which in my opinion will give a higher impact on the reduction temp

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post Jul 3 2023, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Jul 3 2023, 01:49 PM)
what if you paint your outer rooftop with glossy white .. gonna be cooler I bet....
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Not going to work for an imobile object that will get the sun’s ray for the whole day.

Yes white do reflect more energy/heat, but over time, they will still be as hot as any other colour, plus the radient heat from the object itself (tiles/bricks) will still be the contributing factor of the building’s inner heat. Well duh, they’re the only source since light don’t penetrate bricks.

Ie. Car tint’s, no matter what fuck 99.99% of full black tint you use, your windshield’s radient heat by itself will act as a huge heater in your whole car. It dosen’t matter those sohai UV test at shop u see that shine through and you no feel, matter of fact is, glass itself becomes hot, and heat radiates from it - acting as a huge heater in the afternoon.

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post Jul 3 2023, 02:07 PM

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House r value before and after Install radiant barrier?
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post Jul 3 2023, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(vearn29 @ Jul 3 2023, 02:07 PM)
House r value before and after Install radiant barrier?
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When sell house, people emphasize no kena setting sun and not hot a lot more than you think.

If buy for investment, you want sell back also need to convince buyer right?

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