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post Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM, updated 3y ago

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So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:06 AM

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Klang valley 10k is common la dey
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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> Your salary above 5k, really?

Yes

even our degree freshgrad also making 4.3k and 4.5k

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post Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM

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My salary above 7K, but minus EPF and taxes, same as B40 salary. I haven't done enough in my life. Some of my subordinates under me already getting RM10K above. Good for them
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Contact centre team leaders also can get more than 5k basic lah!

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post Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM

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10K is normal nowadays. Ramai sudah reach this lvl. Lompat katak 4-5 times u reach this lvl.
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM

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above 5k is alot meh ? 1 small car + 1 small house = how much left ? insurance ? eat ? phone ? 5k is like a joke now sad.gif
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:11 AM

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DOSM definition of M40 is RM4,360 – RM9,619, thus median salary should be around RM5k already.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM)
My salary above 7K, but minus EPF and taxes, same as B40 salary. I haven't done enough in my life. Some of my subordinates under me already getting RM10K above. Good for them
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I thought you is Honda SA long time ago? hmm.gif

Sudah change job?
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:13 AM

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Me and wife own business dah tua, dah tak tahu how much we earn, basically berapa earn pakai berapa , hutang dah lama bebas, tak ada anak sebab tak nak buang masa beranak di shit hope Malaysia , if that what ts want to know.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Just u poor saja , u look at those 00 gen majority 10k+ above rarely see them below that amount
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:15 AM

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it's your hourly rate that matters.
5k per month with 8 hours per day for 5 days per week is ok.
5k per month with 8 hours per day for 7 days per week is not ok.
5k per month with 12 hours per day for 5 days per week is not ok.
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:15 AM

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3k
5k
10k
20k

depends on your social circle.... if you just hang around grab rider, or restaurant helpers- then 3k lo.
if you hang around junior professional- then 5k -10k lo

and there are many which dadi kasi, or inheriting business, and so got side business, 50k/100k per month also normal.


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post Jul 2 2023, 11:17 AM

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Uhhjj 5k can't even feed me without house or car seriously
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM)
My salary above 7K, but minus EPF and taxes, same as B40 salary. I haven't done enough in my life. Some of my subordinates under me already getting RM10K above. Good for them
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How come your subordinates get paid more than you?
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:19 AM

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I think klang valley average at 7-8k for working adult.
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:20 AM

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You must be new to /K.
Most people here are trolls.
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:21 AM

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post Jul 2 2023, 11:22 AM

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Remember. Those who driving 300k car + 700k house. Monthly repayment is almost rm8k. Loan only.

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If you do not have car loan, house loan, credit card, and personal loan, 5k is enough.
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:23 AM

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ayam rm1.5k how?
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Incarnation @ Jul 2 2023, 11:18 AM)
How come your subordinates get paid more than you?
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if MNC thats normal

can be different job (like Principal engineer) and he/she is people manager or project manager


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post Jul 2 2023, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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See how many working in sinkapore.... Those are all your rm 10k
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:26 AM

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I just recently landed a 7k job.. So cukur..
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM)
My salary above 7K, but minus EPF and taxes, same as B40 salary. I haven't done enough in my life. Some of my subordinates under me already getting RM10K above. Good for them
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Your subordinates earn more than u?? Then u should be their subordinates lol
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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I think question about salary depends on years of experience and what field..

A lot of fresh grad comes out depress cause they only get RM2.5k so end up become Grab rider RM4k per mth for rest of their life … while some take the RM2.5k and grow their career become 10k in 5 years gradually…


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post Jul 2 2023, 11:29 AM

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No Malaysian salary only 1.5K, TS please enjoy your T1 life here devil.gif devil.gif
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5k is very little la. you cant even earn 5k, doesnt mean majority also cant
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:31 AM

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10k in klang valley is only M40...
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post Jul 2 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 2 2023, 11:28 AM)
Your subordinates earn more than u?? Then u should be their subordinates lol
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I know company that subordinates higher salary than manager cause manager only manage admin but his staffs are experts that on field help companies earn money… company can fire the manager but still operational but if without the staffs will have impact to company operations …

If the manager can do staff works when they not available likely the salary is higher than staffs, if the manager dunno how the staffs work … makes sense the salary is lower … those managers are likely called people manager in charge of administrative works or paper works …



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post Jul 2 2023, 11:33 AM

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5k, 6k, 7k all also still B40 in klang valley la. Pay loans, bills, left with 500-1k only. Why TS jelly? U min wage earner?
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Really ah why don’t believe Ah? 3-4k is freshie level to 3 years salary de

One must not waste time being average. Read back dreamer101 teachings.

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:32 AM)
I know company that subordinates higher salary than manager cause manager only manage admin but his staffs are experts that on field help companies earn money… company can fire the manager but still operational but if without the staffs will have impact to company operations …

If the manager can do staff works when they not available likely the salary is higher than staffs, if the manager dunno how the staffs work … makes sense the salary is lower … those managers are likely called people manager in charge of administrative works or paper works …
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In short the manager is only useful for approving leaves only? laugh.gif
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It's true some high salary but not majority. You ask those successful businessman, CEO or Director surely high salary. That's all.
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5k is like 3-3.5k 5 years ago…

Raise your standard pls..

1 pipur go makan chao fan with drinks already average rm8-11…. X 2.5 times per day.

Not yet counting if u married and wife kids no need makan??
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mostly falls around 7K-11K range.

but these are not majority if you count entire klang valley population. '

Even KL average also around 6k only.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 2 2023, 11:06 AM)
Klang valley 10k is common la dey
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Not common. It's rare.

Malaysia PayGap is a testimonial sort of.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 2 2023, 11:06 AM)
Klang valley 10k is common la dey
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If 10k is common then 10k is average salary

Roughly less than 20% of total workers in a company earning 10k or above, so it's not common as you tried to word it
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 2 2023, 11:42 AM)
If 10k is common then 10k is average salary

Roughly less than 20% of total workers in a company earning 10k or above, so it's not common as you tried to word it
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probably around his social circle lol

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I'm 41 years old. My nett salary is around RM2.4k. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Jul 2 2023, 11:46 AM)
Unker 40yo

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But got rental income rm3k
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Rental income RM3k. No need pay bank installment ah?
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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:23 AM)
See how many working in sinkapore.... Those are all your rm 10k
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20k you mean whistling.gif
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Ayam adi 10k many moons ago
But struggle to hit 20k now…
Need to be in the C suite level
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Depends on your job and company.

Like my company, fresh is 4.5k. So do you think the average pay ppl in that company is 5k? Or more?
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QUOTE(Don't Troll me! @ Jul 2 2023, 11:47 AM)
Rental income RM3k. No need pay bank installment ah?
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Sales kuli here

Basic conlanfirm above 5k

OTE above 10k per month incld 13 month

At this level u need manage ppl and not solo

OTE include own and team target

Wife actually earn more than me huhuhu ... But hers is high risk high reward ba ... Later she sure burn out and take another 6 month break again

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QUOTE(ctwice @ Jul 2 2023, 11:50 AM)
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Does that statistic count RM0 earner as well?

Nah 5k disposable income whistling.gif

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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:23 AM)
See how many working in sinkapore.... Those are all your rm 10k
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Lol that one is just low level kuli bragging 10k rm after conversion, padahal actual quality of life while in Singapore is just same level or slightly better than fresh grad over here. If I'm doing good over there i won't need to come in this forum and perform conversion to show how good I'm doing.
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After doing grab taxi for 8 years i peakes at RM9k nett a month 5 days driving a week in 2020 weeks b4 the ultimate lockdown laugh.gif rclxms.gif

My otai 7 days a week driving manages RM19k nett a month till 2020

After pandemic they ventured elsewhere while some others died of COViD like a hero🤝🤝🙏🙏
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How much you earn = how much you spend

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Lel.. 20k is not that hard actually.

U go sell chicken rice , if u r not making 20k sales per month better find other things to do

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Ayam 38, wife and one kid. My monthly income is only 4k. Very hard to survive.
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 2 2023, 01:00 PM)
Lol that one is just low level kuli bragging 10k rm after conversion, padahal actual quality of life while in Singapore is just same level or slightly better than fresh grad over here. If I'm doing good over there i won't need to come in this forum and perform conversion to show how good I'm doing.
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Fk this tered fk u all with high salary.

Fk life fk everything
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Of course got la. Not all in /k is trolls. Furthermore, most here are 30s.

You should be near 5 digits when you are in your 30s working with a stable job.
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QUOTE(arrowhead7372 @ Jul 2 2023, 12:09 PM)
Of course got la. Not all in /k is trolls. Furthermore, most here are 30s.

You should be near 5 digits when you are in your 30s working with a stable job.
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Fk. I should go restart my life

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have a fren who makes almost as same as me but younger. not even 30 yet. so yeah, there are those who earn 5K
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not rly
im in KL but earn 3.3k only
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QUOTE(arrowhead7372 @ Jul 2 2023, 12:09 PM)
Of course got la. Not all in /k is trolls. Furthermore, most here are 30s.

You should be near 5 digits when you are in your 30s working with a stable job.
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Tax rate high also, even earn 8k after minus EPF baru 6.5k nett
Summore no bonus doh.gif

Might as well kerja SG
13th month already in hand
14th and 15th month bonus is typical
And low tax laugh.gif
Flying someplace nice like Korea or Japan or Germany is typical for even freshie singkie.
Even as team lead back in KL is all local trip only, can’t afford shit. Lol

Summore can get madani handout kekwa

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 2 2023, 12:00 PM)
Lol that one is just low level kuli bragging 10k rm after conversion, padahal actual quality of life while in Singapore is just same level or slightly better than fresh grad over here. If I'm doing good over there i won't need to come in this forum and perform conversion to show how good I'm doing.
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If the work in sg is 9 to 5,no OT, minimal stress, can snake (abit la). I say, can brag la……..
If work till no energy….nothing to brag about la (converted to rm10k)…

Just saying, hope not offended anyone…

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5K if high commitment, live paycheck to paycheck dy
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I honestly have no friends with salary less than 5k. And I know them since high school. Diu if you work so long but salary no grow means it's your problem laaa
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jul 2 2023, 12:17 PM)
If the work in sg is 9 to 5,no OT, minimal stress, can snake (abit la). I say, can brag la……..
If work till no energy….nothing to brag about la…
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Go home while sun damn hot at 6pm
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Quick dinner then go skating or movie or classes (spin, yoga etc) afterwards
Back late 11pm-12mn also ok nobody will rob u

Unlike KL +2hrs jam each way or 1hr20 LRT ride
Wasting life away
“Quality of life”, they said whistling.gif

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jul 2 2023, 11:15 AM)
Just u poor saja , u look at those 00 gen majority 10k+ above rarely see them below that amount
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Just as poor as you?? 2020... 2 years old dupe accumulated 10k posts in /k/.... I more than 10 years here also only half your post count...

bet you are living off your parents money and dare to say other ppl poor whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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not earn T20 20k, do dialysis 10k per month....so, earn 10k...not inclusive HBP and diabetes pills, so you nett earn back to B40

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People are not equal, ada yang pandai dan ada yang bodoh cari duit.

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 12:21 PM)
Go home while sun damn hot at 6pm
Reach home 630pm
Quick dinner then go skating or movie or classes (spin, yoga etc) afterwards
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If in sg like this, it’s a decent job and work life balance……can brag la….thumbup.gif
Some, maybe most, might not be so lucky…
maybe which sector or role will decide on the stress level..office culture plays a role also

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ya because most /k here are living in KV with KV circle.

im 38 but salary still 4k.

no point with 7-8k salary also, because most of it are not a stable job. no pension and easily can kena VSS. kena press like kuli, no time for family.

this is reality in malaysia.


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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 2 2023, 11:06 AM)
Klang valley 10k is common la dey
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ayam rike making 5k
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good if u always stay under coconut shell.. or tinggal dalam telaga.

u'll be surprised how much other nationals earned for the same role we did here, u'll be asking wtf am i doing here.
the amount u say maybe is their daily rate only.

im sure some /k here have reached that (work locally/sg on expat rate)

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Last time I put my gaji as 5k in bank application the awek say I kaya
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5k lu ingat banyak ka? Lepas tax and epf deduction close to 4.2k je.

4.2k can't do jack shit in KL
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5k gaji is pretty easy to get
work few years, lompat sikit, done

but not if you fresh grad or frog in boiling water stay 1 company 10+years with gaji ciput lol
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I just eat popcorn je reading this thread.

But let's just say my fresh grad celery was 4.9k

Studying alone won't make u super rich

I realize a lot of those businessman are making a lot , and they spend without thinking much because they don't have income ceiling

Also can claim under company expenses

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Jul 2 2023, 12:26 PM)
ya because most /k here are living in KV with KV circle.

im 38 but salary still 4k.

no point with 7-8k salary also, because most of it are not a stable job. no pension and easily can kena VSS. kena press like kuli, no time for family.

this is reality in malaysia.
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 2 2023, 12:00 PM)
Lol that one is just low level kuli bragging 10k rm after conversion, padahal actual quality of life while in Singapore is just same level or slightly better than fresh grad over here. If I'm doing good over there i won't need to come in this forum and perform conversion to show how good I'm doing.
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I convert bnd and I bragging about >60k

I feel hurt by your comments.


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I many years ago fresh grads edi almost touching 3k.

If you worked 10 years can't reach 7-8k means your ability is very low, no boss wanna give u good increments that's why.

Most ppl just plain lazy and doesn't want to work extra harder to earn
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TS from northern states? Really low pay there becos bosses cheapskates, even MNCs like Dell, Micron, etc.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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That's pretty much as high as you can go for wage earning bracket. Company don't want to pay higher for more tax relief and contributions.

Unless you're professional and required by company for official purposes, on board as director/shareholder, family related company brows.gif

If just wage earner you also don't want too high later next year not B40 cannot qualify for many subsidies...like Ron95, cheaper telco plans etc. rclxs0.gif
Also tax reliefs and others.
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I can tell you that 38k per month living in PJ with family is no where near T20 lifestyle.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Because ktard is not average person

All are 20k and above earners

Got even some mod earning 100k/month
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jul 2 2023, 01:08 PM)
TS from northern states? Really low pay there becos bosses cheapskates, even MNCs like Dell, Micron, etc.
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Actually smaller companies got workaround for it, cap salary at <5k, with all sorts of benefit claims such as entertainment, meal allowances, groceries under office pantry(but for own consumption), relocation, lodgings, etc.

MNCs pay one huge lumps because their workforce is big so if everyone given leniency in claims the company finished. From CEO to bottom all take small base salary and all place under company claims. innocent.gif

There's a reason why those CEOs in US companies only take annual salary of $1?
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Erm ts budak baru nak up?

D00d skys the limit....

Getting past 100k mark is the super tough one
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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inb4 TS butthurt cos siapa bukak thread kek.

TS, if you just starting out, pls focus getting more exposure and experience. This is more important than harping on low entry pay.

Graduates in my MNC company also smelly smelly 4k.
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 2 2023, 12:00 PM)
Lol that one is just low level kuli bragging 10k rm after conversion, padahal actual quality of life while in Singapore is just same level or slightly better than fresh grad over here. If I'm doing good over there i won't need to come in this forum and perform conversion to show how good I'm doing.
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Jul 2 2023, 12:04 PM)
Ayam 38, wife and one kid. My monthly income is only 4k. Very hard to survive.
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You you live with yourself earning so little?

If by 30 I didn't hit 10k/month I would kill myself for sure
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Age goes up, salary also goes up lah. This kind of forum is full of oldfags, in fact, even 10k also a bit paiseh.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2002034

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 18 2011, 09:17 AM)
We do not have COMPLETE CONTROL of our lives.  But, we have SOME CONTROL.  Are you saying that you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO free time that you can decide where to invest your life on??

<<Some have their talents undiscovered.>>

WHY do you need people to discover YOU??

LOSERS wait for things to happen.  WINNER make things happen.

<<Some just doesn't have the opportunity like other successful ones...>>

Which is another BS...

1) The successful people FAILED many many times.  They just keep on trying...

2) They make OPPORTUNITY.

3) They are PREPARED.  Hence, when the opportunity arises, they can jump on it.

4) Losers just WHINE and BLAME everyone else.

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1) Of course, lost track how many jobs by now

2) Dulu i kerja 5 days and moonlight on Sat.

2) In a bik 4, there was this director who will question everything just to show who's boss. Fk him, went for SQL training.
3) It was the upper hand "I know SQL whistling.gif" that got me the next job because "the other candidate was more experienced but had zero knowledge of SQL".

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Folks,

Time for me to tell another story.

Once upon a time, I was studying in Texas, USA.  Because I was foreign student, I paid international tuition fee and that is a few thousands per year.  And, I worked part-time at the university computing center.

I am NOT normal.  I actually read the university handbook completely a few times.  Then, I found something interesting.  Texas state law say that if you are a research or teaching assistant working part-time, you get tuition waiver.  Aka, you pay in-state fee and can save a few thousands per semester.  At the handbook, it claimed that you have to be graduate student studying master or Phd to qualify to be research assistant.

Now, if you are NORMAL people, you will stop there.  But, I am NOT.  So, I actually go to the LAW LIBRARY and FIND the EXACT LAW that define what RESEARCH ASSISTANT is.  The LAW stated that a RESEARCH ASSISTANT is a student working part-time on a job that related to their study.  I copied the law and went to admission office and ask for TUITION WAIVER.  They have NO FORM and NO IDEA what to do.  They had to create a form and ask me to ask my DEAN to certify my job is related to my degree (EE).  I won!!  Subsequently, every foreign students worked at university get waiver too.

So, tell me, will a person that always say

A) They have NO CHOICE.

B) They are undiscovered

C) They have NO OPPORTUNITY

do what I did??

This is MY ATTITUDE!!

I want HIGHER SALARY.  I read and research books on how to negotiate and get better salary.

I want to invest better.  I read and study how to be better in investing.

Now, for this kind of people, unless a rock fell from the sky and kill the person instantly, they will not fail.  They may be beaten down again and again.  But, they will keep standing up and keep trying..  They will get better and better.  They will get somewhere.

It is EASY to tell whether a person can succeed or not.  It is in THEIR ATTITUDE and MENTALITY.


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Possible if the company is ma pa/family relative run business..
High paying salary is tactic to relief taxes and laundering funds.

Same like what foreign investors have been doing when investing startups in Singapore..

Startup some tech firm whether profiteering or not, self draw high salary and among family members, provide some jobs for locals pay as cheap as possible for public relations, money comes in from own country with unknown sources gets cleansed. Red carpet from the receiving country as they too get a pie share. thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Yes, I pay the management trainees in the management trainee program RM5k as a starting, including in allowances, they make slightly more than RM5k.

I think you really need to go and open your eyes a little bit more in the world that is Klang Valley and Malaysia.
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jul 2 2023, 12:17 PM)
If the work in sg is 9 to 5,no OT, minimal stress, can snake (abit la). I say, can brag la……..
If work till no energy….nothing to brag about la (converted to rm10k)…

Just saying, hope not offended anyone…
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Well yes i suppose it's a human impulse to want to brag, but to us who know the reality, it looks childish. Just feels pathetic some people feel the need to brag about feeling rich after conversion when it's much better to actually be comfortable *without* conversion.
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TS social circle likely B20 to be surprise on many can earn 5 digits

Spent time to improve ur skill sets dude

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Still got people salary below 10k?
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jul 2 2023, 01:06 PM)
I convert bnd and I bragging about >60k

I feel hurt by your comments.
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60k is a big difference from 10k. Lol
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It really depends on your background.

In Malaysia a cronyism country where it's race institutionalized with a declining non community. Wage earners have to be clever and creative always to maneuver their way up the ladder.

If you're applying a job to a company as an outsider even with experience you'll always be lowballed. Unless the company directors and board are related to you or family business or good friends, then you'll be paid fairly or above industry standards.


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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 2 2023, 11:42 AM)
If 10k is common then 10k is average salary

Roughly less than 20% of total workers in a company earning 10k or above, so it's not common as you tried to word it
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You have to see the context of what TS is asking. He asks are they trolling? Which tells me context is in /k.
/K consists of mostly educated people able to discuss their ideas in English. We got politic, military, submarine experts and etc. All degree people. In in Klang valley people with degree change job every 3-4 year easily hit 10k.
If you thought this was referring to entire population then I am speechless
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 2 2023, 11:06 AM)
Klang valley 10k is common la dey
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anything wrong with people earning less than 5k?

i saw most of them owning latest iphone/samsung and drive new alza/aruz.

something just works then. but why hurting when people earn more?
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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Jul 31 2014, 09:41 AM)
You are engineering manager sure can buy stuff. My mentor also engineering manager also got special angpow (not annual bonus) each year from boss RM xxx xxx.

I am talking about the skinny underfed office clothed guys/girls in KV taking in 3k/mth. It's true farm hands of the old are on the same pecking order as these office workers. That was what my post is about.  That's average.

I follow your posts ma... fully agreed with your term average people get average results.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 31 2014, 10:00 AM)
kaiserwulf,

In any country, the AVERAGE people get the WORST DEAL.

1) If a person is RICH, he can hire accountant / lawyer and so on to protect his money.  And, he can move his money to other country if needed.  And, there is so few of them that even if you confiscated all their money, it would not matter.

Too hard to collect.  Too few to matters.

2) If a person is POOR, they have NO MONEY to collect from anyhow.  And, if you push too hard for them to survive, they will revolt since they can no longer live.

Too hard to collect.  Too little money to matters.

3) So, in the end, THE GOVERNMENT is designed to extract the MAXIMUM from the AVERAGE PEOPLE.

Easy to collect and the most amount of people and money to collect.  And, they still can live after you collect.

The per capita GDP of Malaysia is around USD10K ~ RM33K.  That means people earning around $3K per month is in the middle.

Do not be AVERAGE where you live.

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 2 2023, 01:32 PM)
Well yes i suppose it's a human impulse to want to brag, but to us who know the reality, it looks childish. Just feels pathetic some people feel the need to brag about feeling rich after conversion when it's much better to actually be comfortable *without* conversion.
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Its not about bragging.
Its about having the time to do the things you wanna do & are you using your time wisely?

Put it this way lah
Given that one still have to slave and work hard regardless of MY SG or wherever:

Might as well use the same time to earn better for the same work (within the 20 years of a person's prime money-making period) rather than paycheck to paycheck life

QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.
Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Not hai position at all already 8k.

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 2 2023, 01:43 PM)
You have to see the context of what TS is asking. He asks are they trolling? Which tells me context is in /k.
/K consists of mostly educated people able to discuss their ideas in English. We got politic, military, submarine experts and etc. All degree people. In in Klang valley people with degree change job every 3-4 year easily hit 10k.
If you thought this was referring to entire population then I am speechless
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That’s why saying it’s common is misleading. For every 1 getting 10k salary, there will be another 3 or 4 people with much lower salary.

But yeah, if you compare the salary with only the 20% top performers, it’s common.

Do most /ktard earn > 10k? Might be and might not be. But the quality of threads and posts seem to be deteriorating compared to let say close to 20 years ago.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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kek

TS trolling?

Dont say luxury, you think how they afford Camry, Cross, CX5, CRV, TIGUAN on the road if salary dont have RM8k and above?
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kek

TS trolling?

Dont say luxury, you think how they afford Camry, Cross, CX5, CRV, TIGUAN on the road if salary dont have RM8k and above?
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If you're living outside the KV or JB/Penang, chances of you getting filtered out for interview invites and selected as potential hire is slim if you put >RM5k salary range.
Unless it's an important management position for a fairly large company/MNC, even junior management/senior exec, the asking salary range is not very convincing/preferential to the employer.

Those of you who have gained enough experience and are already in your late 30s or >40s, you want to break this limit consider going self employed or start your own consultancy if you're confident enough.
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If not how to afford meksidis ?
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jul 2 2023, 02:02 PM)
kek

TS trolling?

Dont say luxury, you think how they afford Camry, Cross, CX5, CRV, TIGUAN on the road if salary dont have RM8k and above?
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With rising OPR many people now buy luxury cars under company registration. That's why some countries separate number plate types like in Singapore.

In Malaysia it's harder to guess if the car is company registered car unless we follow how Singapore does with number plates.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 01:40 PM)
It really depends on your background.

In Malaysia a cronyism country where it's race institutionalized with a declining non community. Wage earners have to be clever and creative always to maneuver their way up the ladder.

If you're applying a job to a company as an outsider even with experience you'll always be lowballed. Unless the company directors and board are related to you or family business or good friends, then you'll be paid fairly or above industry standards.
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to be honest

taichi master, ass lickers, TKSS sifu sure can be someone here in malaysia
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 01:49 PM)

Put it this way lah
Given that one still have to slave and work hard regardless of MY SG or wherever:

Might as well use the same time to earn better for the same work (within the 20 years of a person's prime money-making period) rather than paycheck to paycheck life
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Well said….
Had a colleague that left MY and worked in SG, he left his family (wife & child) in KL. He wouldn’t have done it if the pros isn’t significant better in sg.
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 2 2023, 01:59 PM)
That’s why saying it’s common is misleading. For every 1 getting 10k salary, there will be another 3 or 4 people with much lower salary.

But yeah, if you compare the salary with only the 20% top performers, it’s common.

Do most /ktard earn > 10k? Might be and might not be. But the quality of threads and posts seem to be deteriorating compared to let say close to 20 years ago.
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What you are saying is majority. Majority and common is 2 diff thing. Is 10k common? Yes. Is it majority? Then no.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 02:06 PM)
If you're living outside the KV or JB/Penang, chances of you getting filtered out for interview invites and selected as potential hire is slim if you put >RM5k salary range.
Unless it's an important management position for a fairly large company/MNC, even junior management/senior exec, the asking salary range is not very convincing/preferential to the employer.

Those of you who have gained enough experience and are already in your late 30s or >40s, you want to break this limit consider going self employed or start your own consultancy if you're confident enough.
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10k above is common as what i know. I am jealous of people who have BMW and Benz sad.gif
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when I made $500 a month right after spm, I thought that 10k a month was my ultimate goal.

it's all about perspective. poor ppl think that 10k is alot..



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QUOTE(supsupsui @ Jul 2 2023, 02:18 PM)
when I made $500 a month right after spm, I thought that 10k a month was my ultimate goal.

it's all about perspective. poor ppl think that 10k is alot..
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10k 20 years ago still something la.

10k nowadays close to worthless.
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10k above is common as what i know. I am jealous of people who have BMW and Benz sad.gif
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why jelly
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my dream car is C300, but to get one i need at least 350k annual salary...this sort of number never come sad.gif
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I only know 1.X mil ppl paytax only on Malaysia.

Lain is sembang kencang
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TS thinks 10k is alot, while I’m earning 38k a month.
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Nanti election you undi PN & PAS lah. Tengok berapa economy yang dibawa masuk & gaji awak masih dapat 10K lagi kah. Boleh cuba lah, nanti macam Kelantan you baru tahu.
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People do have multiple stream of income nowadays
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 2 2023, 12:23 PM)
Just as poor as you?? 2020... 2 years old dupe accumulated 10k posts in /k/.... I more than 10 years here also only half your post count...

bet you are living off your parents money and dare to say other ppl poor whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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my dream car is C300, but to get one i need at least 350k annual salary...this sort of number never come sad.gif
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Bank branch manager with sale volume rank top 10% in whole Mal can get this range .
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Lol 10k is nothing nowadays. Its so easy to achieve 10k a month. The question is how long u can maintain it
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QUOTE(supsupsui @ Jul 2 2023, 02:18 PM)
when I made $500 a month right after spm, I thought that 10k a month was my ultimate goal.

it's all about perspective. poor ppl think that 10k is alot..
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TS thinks 10k is alot, while I’m earning 38k a month.
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Seriously if I'm earning close to 50k a month I won't be telling anyone what industry I'm in or what my career is. Too many red eyed competitors and rivals out there who will die to learn my secrets to steal my job. laugh.gif

If I'm some CEO or top management/chief exec of a MNC, I'd prefer the derivatives/dividends stock options, claim a $1 monthly salary and have all my needs borne by my company as claims.
That's how top execs in US and many developed countries are doing to evade taxes.

Why draw such a large salary and allow taxes to be imposed?
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Define "so many"

"so many" /k?

People earning below 5k can hardly afford to pay their ISP / buy computers / buy phones. Of course they are not in /k.
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Earning 10k also go mall eat need see price before ordering

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Jul 2 2023, 02:18 PM)
10k above is common as what i know. I am jealous of people who have BMW and Benz sad.gif
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10k is not a lot. Your take home would be around 7k++ only

Not a good way to spend your take home pay on expensive car

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 02:41 PM)
Seriously if I'm earning close to 50k a month I won't be telling anyone what industry I'm in or what my career is. Too many red eyed competitors and rivals out there who will die to learn my secrets to steal my job. laugh.gif

If I'm some CEO or top management/chief exec of a MNC, I'd prefer the derivatives/dividends stock options, claim a $1 monthly salary and have all my needs borne by my company as claims.
That's how top execs in US and many developed countries are doing to evade taxes.

Why draw such a large salary and allow taxes to be imposed?
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go uk study accounting
graduate with first class honours
come back here instant 5k
this was my ex's friend back in 2019
now prolly 6-7k already
ex's guy friend that wants to fuck her went to uk study business
came back and work in marketing
worked at big names like nestle and now in f&n I think
11k /month
ex wont let him go despite us dating and always let him call her babe
yet he leech her Netflix account despite having a gf and makes 11k/month kek
so yes, all of therein KL, we dont live in loser land that isnt KL
despite that, all the job postings in job street only offering 3k/month and 4k for 3 years work experience

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jul 2 2023, 02:30 PM)
But yr seisohai level off human chart .
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 03:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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my celery per month is your per annum. (and that's before converted the total into x5 from gbp to ringgit. if ringgit conti to fall, x6 soon)

My job? clean and unclean business. from using other's name to settle menyetel my payslips to remittance and jadi big ear hole to students here in case they got duit cannot get in hand in the uk.
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bruh, many job easily stolen.

My undertable works, if 1 day i lanlan dun work hard enuf, easily replaced by other pokgai humgarchans.

same like 2feidei shop. can off? cannot. he try off 2 days, all his client go other port, forget who 2feidei liao.
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If your job is easily stolen by random people on the internet, it deserves to be stolen.
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You have no idea about what you're talking when you've reach such levels from experience. What have you got to gain by bragging your salary to the public?

I don't believe if you tell me you're just boasting on public stage. Most of the really rich people whom I know almost never bring up about their incomes during conversation. Taking a fixed pay check monthly is dreadful to them.
They don't even keep track of their monthly earnings except the yearly closing books and dividends announcements.

Everything they spend they just have their secretaries or personal accountants file it for claims from the company.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:03 PM)
bruh, many job easily stolen.

My undertable works, if 1 day i lanlan dun work hard enuf, easily replaced by other pokgai humgarchans.

same like 2feidei shop. can off? cannot. he try off 2 days, all his client go other port, forget who 2feidei liao.
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Then its your fault thats its taken. Relying on people not knowing is poor job security.
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You have no idea about what you're talking when you've reach such levels from experience. What have you got to gain by bragging your salary to the public?

I don't believe if you tell me you're just boasting on public stage. Most of the really rich people whom I know almost never bring up about their incomes during conversation. Taking a fixed pay check monthly is dreadful to them.
They don't even keep track of their monthly earnings except the yearly closing books and dividends announcements.

Everything they spend they just have their secretaries or personal accountants file it for claims from the company.
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im different.

i like to brag, but not face to face.

face to face, you dun tell others the exact amount of money you profit, burn, earned, and used or saved.

demn, not even the tesla of mine or the land rover sport im driving i tell them how much i pay for it.

furthermore, i deny owning all the studios in my business. even my staff might assume me sewa those studios, and they're not mine.

IRL, you low profile. online, be what you want.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:01 PM)
my celery per month is your per annum. (and that's before converted the total into x5 from gbp to ringgit. if ringgit conti to fall, x6 soon)

My job? clean and unclean business. from using other's name to settle menyetel my payslips to remittance and jadi big ear hole to students here in case they got duit cannot get in hand in the uk.
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Bro do you even draw salary at this stage? laugh.gif
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Then its your fault thats its taken. Relying on people not knowing is poor job security.
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kah kah kah, if the world works like you think, how good.

sadly, nope.

job security is a hoax when you gotta work your own. if youre a pipit worker, then yeah, you can talk about security.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 03:04 PM)
You have no idea about what you're talking when you've reach such levels from experience. What have you got to gain by bragging your salary to the public?

I don't believe if you tell me you're just boasting on public stage. Most of the really rich people whom I know almost never bring up about their incomes during conversation. Taking a fixed pay check monthly is dreadful to them.
They don't even keep track of their monthly earnings except the yearly closing books and dividends announcements.

Everything they spend they just have their secretaries or personal accountants file it for claims from the company.
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You see me posting my income? No one goes about talking about their income if they have any level of decorum, but also no one keeps their job hidden like some secret.

If you say youre a high level investment banker, for example, no one's going to randomly steal your job. Job security is a function of you knowing your stuff and your reputation over the years - if you rely on people not knowinh what you do, thats a very low barrier to entry.
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Pipits only talk about fixed income and drawing salaries.

Helangs talk about profit gains and dividends. Also net worth. devil.gif

It's totally 2 different level of mentality.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:08 PM)
kah kah kah, if the world works like you think, how good.

sadly, nope.

job security is a hoax when you gotta work your own. if youre a pipit worker, then yeah, you can talk about security.
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Its working well enough for me, thats all ill say.
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says the guy who has 10k posts in 2 years... you must be awfully lifeless to achieve such feat....
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jul 2 2023, 03:10 PM)
You see me posting my income? No one goes about talking about their income if they have any level of decorum, but also no one keeps their job hidden like some secret.

If you say youre a high level investment banker, for example, no one's going to randomly steal your job. Job security is a function of you knowing your stuff and your reputation over the years - if you rely on people not knowinh what you do, thats a very low barrier to entry.
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Sure with your assumption if you're still a wage earner drawing salaries.

Try being up there in a MNC at the peak of your career with a contracted position earning 50k. Go brag around lah what you earn to your company colleagues and industry peers. The count your days of survival.
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Bro do you even draw salary at this stage? laugh.gif
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I had to. I even had to borrow other people's name and some people that had legit working visa here in the UK to songlap some. Else how to cover and hide the amount of cash I get from all my pure profits? Me and my wife both paid, being worker and owner of the company.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 03:15 PM)
Sure with your assumption if you're still a wage earner drawing salaries.

Try being up there in a MNC at the peak of your career with a contracted position earning 50k. Go brag around lah what you earn to your company colleagues and industry peers. The count your days of survival.
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If it makes you happy to think that, im in no position to stop you.
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But how to win u ooo post lesser but tahap sohai offchart .
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Don't worry... I'm not winning anything... all the prizes goes to you my 2 year old dupe who have 10k posts brows.gif brows.gif


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I had to. I even had to borrow other people's name and some people that had legit working visa here in the UK to songlap some. Else how to cover and hide the amount of cash I get from all my pure profits? Me and my wife both paid, being worker and owner of the company.
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You don't tell me your official drawing salary is only $1 or RM2k to qualify yourself as B40 won't you? laugh.gif

Side businesses have some dummy run them and made scapegoats for the taxes. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Its working well enough for me, thats all ill say.
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I'll share a few that almost impossible to get the security you mentioned.

Travel Agent/Agency

Money remittance, changer

2feidei ports.

Runner, for all sorts. My case, arrival pickup.

Middleman, delivery orientated.

Food, especially sauces and condiments (I got a business here in the UK dealing with sauces and roast ducks many restaurant is selling. Trust me, once I kantoi production, the clients will run to elsewhere or opt to do themselves. Good or bad, nobody know, but one thing for sure, here in the UK, everyone else fuckup, my faults. Im like their customer service, from how terrible is harrods shopping experience to why no restaurants open after 12am)
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Because k isn’t the representation of the whole Malaysia.

Most of us here are T20. B40 no internet access.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:20 PM)
I'll share a few that almost impossible to get the security you mentioned.

Travel Agent/Agency

Money remittance, changer

2feidei ports.

Runner, for all sorts. My case, arrival pickup.

Middleman, delivery orientated.

Food, especially sauces and condiments (I got a business here in the UK dealing with sauces and roast ducks many restaurant is selling. Trust me, once I kantoi production, the clients will run to elsewhere or opt to do themselves. Good or bad, nobody know, but one thing for sure, here in the UK, everyone else fuckup, my faults. Im like their customer service, from how terrible is harrods shopping experience to why no restaurants open after 12am)
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You do realise that my original comment was in reply to someone who said that his proposed tactic is to not tell anyone of his business, right?

Can you explain how your statement relates to that because i think youre way off context.
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You do realise that my original comment was in reply to someone who said that his proposed tactic is to not tell anyone of his business, right?

Can you explain how your statement relates to that because i think youre way off context.
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You don't tell me your official drawing salary is only $1 or RM2k to qualify yourself as B40 won't you? laugh.gif

Side businesses have some dummy run them and made scapegoats for the taxes. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Of coz no la. your point is no different from a blatant asshole driving g-wagon claim b40 celery below 10k ringgit no need tax, itu mercedes saudi lengzai kasi punya.

The scapegoats, yeah. Or else how you cover your account huh?

My airbnb, truthful staff, 21 members, 3 working shift.
My airbnb, songlap staff, 35 members, the other 2 teams is backup, no need work, but all get paid similarly to the working one. One best thing is, tax reported under them, bank card and bank apps run on my password, my biometrics, and yeah, bank in my hand. 14 staff, each get 24k per annum, that's like I got 14 peoples worth of 20k after tax money to use for myself.

I love paying tax. They make my money clean.
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Do you tell people and the public where you hide your golden goose? brows.gif
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I can tell people what i do when they ask in real life. Whether they can do what i do is a whole different story.

We are not the same.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jul 2 2023, 07:23 AM)
You do realise that my original comment was in reply to someone who said that his proposed tactic is to not tell anyone of his business, right?

Can you explain how your statement relates to that because i think youre way off context.
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Ignore if it doesnt goes well to what you wanna read.

That's just how I write. All im doing is explaining your reply but if its not your liking, just ignore.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 2 2023, 11:10 AM)
My salary above 7K, but minus EPF and taxes, same as B40 salary. I haven't done enough in my life. Some of my subordinates under me already getting RM10K above. Good for them
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Why all high celery pipu here say high celery but no one post any proof?
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 02:41 PM)
Seriously if I'm earning close to 50k a month I won't be telling anyone what industry I'm in or what my career is. Too many red eyed competitors and rivals out there who will die to learn my secrets to steal my job. laugh.gif

If I'm some CEO or top management/chief exec of a MNC, I'd prefer the derivatives/dividends stock options, claim a $1 monthly salary and have all my needs borne by my company as claims.
That's how top execs in US and many developed countries are doing to evade taxes.

Why draw such a large salary and allow taxes to be imposed?
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Ignore if it doesnt goes well to what you wanna read.

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My salesgirl not yet graduate we edi giving 2700. Less aso no ppl do.
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No celery no dream la.
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Not to my liking and not having to do with what i was talking about are two different things. If you enjoy rambling out of context, then all power to you, i guess.
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Well, i was replying up to my own enjoyment, that's true. But the point is, it was to point out at what kind of security you could have on the few jobs i've mentioned. And its stated as well there "only worker pipits has the leisure to say about security, because they're just makan gaji buta, what risk do they even had?"

Apparently, you don't get it, and its sunday, I dun wanna play "you must accept my point" game with people, so yeah.

If you cant brain the comment, then its rambling. Done.
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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Jul 2 2023, 02:58 PM)
go uk study accounting
graduate with first class honours
come back here instant 5k
this was my ex's friend back in 2019
now prolly 6-7k already
ex's guy friend that wants to fuck her went to uk study business
came back and work in marketing
worked at big names like nestle and now in f&n I think
11k /month
ex wont let him go despite us dating and always let him call her babe
yet he leech her Netflix account despite having a gf and makes 11k/month kek
so yes, all of therein KL, we dont live in loser land that isnt KL
despite that, all the job postings in job street only offering 3k/month and 4k for 3 years work experience
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If the work in sg is 9 to 5,no OT, minimal stress, can snake (abit la). I say, can brag la……..
If work till no energy….nothing to brag about la (converted to rm10k)…

Just saying, hope not offended anyone…
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Actually, for those working in SG earning about RM10k (~SGD3K), there isn't much to brag about, considering the high living cost there nowadays.

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My salesgirl not yet graduate we edi giving 2700. Less aso no ppl do.
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Not yet graduate already confirmed a junior exec salary?

Your salesgirl is your doter, niece or reserve? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:41 PM)
Well, i was replying up to my own enjoyment, that's true. But the point is, it was to point out at what kind of security you could have on the few jobs i've mentioned. And its stated as well there "only worker pipits has the leisure to say about security, because they're just makan gaji buta, what risk do they even had?"

Apparently, you don't get it, and its sunday, I dun wanna play "you must accept my point" game with people, so yeah.

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QUOTE(BChLZ @ Jul 2 2023, 03:46 PM)
Actually, for those working in SG earning about RM10k (~SGD3K), there isn't much to brag about, considering the high living cost there nowadays.
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I said nothing to brag for those earning 3k, as a reply to another post mentioned about those making 3k in SG.
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Wow so confident and trusting?

Not yet graduate already confirmed a junior exec salary?

Your salesgirl is your doter, niece or reserve? laugh.gif
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Hawt maybe?

But again, if I see someone nice and presentable come to interview also I'll give some leeway.

Especially interviewing female applicants, I always make sure to ask them write something, but provide no pen for them.

Those with one in a tidy bag, plus points, those with a fukken messy bag, even Scarjo level also I will DGAF.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:54 PM)
Hawt maybe?

But again, if I see someone nice and presentable come to interview also I'll give some leeway.

Especially interviewing female applicants, I always make sure to ask them write something, but provide no pen for them.

Those with one in a tidy bag, plus points, those with a fukken messy bag, even Scarjo level also I will DGAF.
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I only know 1.X mil ppl paytax only on Malaysia.

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Can't imagine the burdens of the 1 mil +

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So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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It is 2023 the cost of living spike while the salary no difference in early 2000s
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Willing to join me for dinner tonight on a date? brows.gif

I'll fetch you in my brand new Tesla. innocent.gif
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jul 2 2023, 04:05 PM)
Are we living in 90s?

It is 2023 the cost of living spike while the salary no difference in early 2000s
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That's why we had the gig jobs which came in.

You need to adapt, that's how the idea of side incomes came in.
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Are we living in 90s?

It is 2023 the cost of living spike while the salary no difference in early 2000s
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Well, we're at the 2020s but the problem is,

cost naik, celery tak naik, then naturally, shouldn't you be wiser?

Apparently, that didn't happen. Not like it didn't happen, it was shifted, from bolui to just get into debt, fall into depravity, get into degeneracy, and die into useless wants.

in the 90s, you dun work, you dun get a sony walkman or gameboy. Today in the 2020s, you can dun work, but the bank will thorlong you to get the latest ipong promek 14 plus plus 1tb so you can keep all your porno in there to fap while being jobless.

That's the differences.

I might sound hateful, but that's just how I see the people nowadays. Not a single fuck put a bit of sweat into cari duit. But put sweat to piap and hutang another 200 quid boleh pulak!
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That's why we had the gig jobs which came in.

You need to adapt, that's how the idea of side incomes came in.
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Some of my younger siblings and friends say, wanna do FIRE or whatever fancy abbrevation investment safe and secure for future.

Sendiri celery 2k 3k, bayar mybi gone half. In-vest-ments?

I wonder where the word come into their head.

I back then no 5k 10k in hand I dun even bother all those shit worrying I got no money to eat for the next 3 months.
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That's why we had the gig jobs which came in.

You need to adapt, that's how the idea of side incomes came in.
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Lol dont talk about me, my income i wont disclose here but eligible a loan for 10mil easily

You need to do your own business dont become bagger work your ass for other company become rich but your salary just so2 only for more than 10 years
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jul 2 2023, 04:13 PM)
Lol dont talk about me, my income i wont disclose here but eligible a loan for 10mil easily

You need to do your own business dont become bagger work your ass for other company become rich but your salary just so2 only for more than 10 years
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But for many self employment is way more fulfilling, and safer in terms of job security. You don't have to face boss bad mood when revenues drop and wrong decisions made other than by yourself.

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Well, we're at the 2020s but the problem is,

cost naik, celery tak naik, then naturally, shouldn't you be wiser?

Apparently, that didn't happen. Not like it didn't happen, it was shifted, from bolui to just get into debt, fall into depravity, get into degeneracy, and die into useless wants.

in the 90s, you dun work, you dun get a sony walkman or gameboy. Today in the 2020s, you can dun work, but the bank will thorlong you to get the latest ipong promek 14 plus plus 1tb so you can keep all your porno in there to fap while being jobless.

That's the differences.

I might sound hateful, but that's just how I see the people nowadays. Not a single fuck put a bit of sweat into cari duit. But put sweat to piap and hutang another 200 quid boleh pulak!
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Because our education has zero input about personal financial

Proper education on how to manage money and the impact of inflationary

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 04:19 PM)
But for many self employment is way more fulfilling, and safer in terms of job security. You don't have to face boss bad mood when revenues drop and wrong decisions made other than by yourself.
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Job security is bullshit, the company can sack you anytime just like that.

A closer example is during covid era
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Lol dont talk about me, my income i wont disclose here but eligible a loan for 10mil easily

You need to do your own business dont become bagger work your ass for other company become rich but your salary just so2 only for more than 10 years
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As long you manage your credit score and background properly, I doubt one will have problem taking loan high enough that could turn into great use.

The problem here is many people is literally shit. Not like Im showing off, but damn, even me who had good business still works on sunday today, and they, those pipit, those no money buggers, those poor as fuck, actually had the balls to want extra off day because today drink tmr maybe hangover?

They deserve to be poor for life. They're lucky theres nobody out there sucking their blood out to be sold for money. So lazy, blood is their only tangible currency worth some moolah.
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Because our education has zero input about personal financial

Proper education on how to manage money and the impact of inflationary
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Makbapak education also important.

If the parents is some beranak enam lapan sepuluh but celery less than 2k punya, then all go down into the drain.

I wonder where is the responsiblity of a parent goes nowadays.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 04:32 PM)
As long you manage your credit score and background properly, I doubt one will have problem taking loan high enough that could turn into great use.

The problem here is many people is literally shit. Not like Im showing off, but damn, even me who had good business still works on sunday today, and they, those pipit, those no money buggers, those poor as fuck, actually had the balls to want extra off day because today drink tmr maybe hangover?

They deserve to be poor for life. They're lucky theres nobody out there sucking their blood out to be sold for money. So lazy, blood is their only tangible currency worth some moolah.
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Those who are lazy actually quite complacent with their life.

If compared with other countries outside south east asia our food at restaurant consider cheap, there is no urgency to find extra money to support

They never think about savings or any emergency fund. By the time they will blame others because not helping them
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Those who are lazy actually quite complacent with their life.

If compared with other countries outside south east asia our food at restaurant consider cheap, there is no urgency to find extra money to support

They never think about savings or any emergency fund. By the time they will blame others because not helping them
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Just as a fun trivia, It felts like these complacent people is trying to compare how they can survive without working in comparison to the Mainlander people.

The worst thing is, Mainlander people that goes let to rot, had a home, farm, land, and kind hearted people that wont let you starve to death.

But malaysia? If those food bank stop helping you, you'll die the next day lel.
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Because our education has zero input about personal financial

Proper education on how to manage money and the impact of inflationary
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True. I learnt from dreamer101 postings here.
However the problem last time was really no money cry.gif
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True. I learnt from dreamer101 postings here.
However the problem last time was really no money cry.gif
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We all start from takde duit.

Those with duit literally dun need start. They're forced to start from young liao.

I know someone who had his parent settle stuff for him, all he had to do was just pick what he wanna do, and he get it done.

Like he say he like IT, his parent sudah settle an IT firm for him from young young, all he had to do is keep that interest there and learn how to manage. Fukken good life.
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QUOTE(BChLZ @ Jul 2 2023, 03:53 PM)
I didn't say everyone in SG makes just 3k.
I said nothing to brag for those earning 3k, as a reply to another post mentioned about those making 3k in SG.
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I from 4k become 7k recently. Then do some part time to become 8k.

But I also don't feel too rich. Just comfortable only
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I from 4k become 7k recently. Then do some part time to become 8k.

But I also don't feel too rich. Just comfortable only
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As long your expenses for 4k dun suddenly raise to 8k punya level, I think you'll have a very very comfortable life.

I always see people with 2k celery, but had 5k expenses, then gaji naik to 4k, sudah gutsy can try 15k punya expenses. As if its their feverit time waster event is to get more hutang and spend more moneh.
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As long your expenses for 4k dun suddenly raise to 8k punya level, I think you'll have a very very comfortable life.

I always see people with 2k celery, but had 5k expenses, then gaji naik to 4k, sudah gutsy can try 15k punya expenses. As if its their feverit time waster event is to get more hutang and spend more moneh.
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Sure is rise.. Got new housing commitment. I also resign from the 4k job because of this. But so far still manageable. Food expenses need to control only, cannot go out so much
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jul 2 2023, 04:40 PM)
Those who are lazy actually quite complacent with their life.

If compared with other countries outside south east asia our food at restaurant consider cheap, there is no urgency to find extra money to support

They never think about savings or any emergency fund. By the time they will blame others because not helping them
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I concur to this. Been to Pune twice, celeri 1.5k is average but eating out if rm 30-40 per meal. Not sure how the fuck they survive. The ratio is not even that worse in EU.
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Sure is rise.. Got new housing commitment. I also resign from the 4k job because of this. But so far still manageable. Food expenses need to control only, cannot go out so much
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Adequate commitment is ok, but try best to not get more extra commitment.

If from toyota suddenly coz celery up sudah dream mau 9year a new Mercedes or BMW tin kosong then that's really cari pasal liao. I know someone, forever change new 2nd hand car whenever change a job. Loan nonstop, like its a motivation to hutang more.
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If you're in klang Valley and have over 10 years working experience as a professional white collar, you should be making at least rm7k. 15 years should more than rm10k.
Otherwise really need to re evaluate your life and career path.
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Who say common?
Mine still below 5k
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 05:36 PM)
Adequate commitment is ok, but try best to not get more extra commitment.

If from toyota suddenly coz celery up sudah dream mau 9year a new Mercedes or BMW tin kosong then that's really cari pasal liao. I know someone, forever change new 2nd hand car whenever change a job. Loan nonstop, like its a motivation to hutang more.
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Lifestyle creep issue. For me I stick to the same old pickup truck, cheap to run and maintain.. new car commitment is a waste of money tongue.gif at least pickup truck can moonlight with it
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 12:05 PM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Huh.... This is burger flipper trying to rationalize the world .

Dude , your pay is directly corelates to amount of money you make for the company . when u bring 2 mil , u expect certain pay and when u bring 80 mil , you get pay differently .
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Lifestyle creep issue. For me I stick to the same old pickup truck, cheap to run and maintain.. new car commitment is a waste of money tongue.gif at least pickup truck can moonlight with it
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I was told a lot about this too.

Saying driving a six seven years old car is a risk.

But hmm... If my new car boughted at 2016 until now is old, then what about your 2nd hand car that was 4 to 5 years old? It's not old because just come into your hand for less than 3 months?


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nah. so many people can get above 5k salary. i cut didi.

where got so good one life. almost every job is do more, pay less.

limpeh last time worked in one company, some senior engineers already worked there for more than 5 years salary still below 3k.

of course if you say MNC will definitely earn more lor. But malaysia got many people okay. Not everyone work in MNC.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 2 2023, 05:40 PM)
Who say common?
Mine still below 5k
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Im resigned and join gov. My salary now 3k plus
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Wow so confident and trusting?

Not yet graduate already confirmed a junior exec salary?

Your salesgirl is your doter, niece or reserve? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 05:56 PM)
nah. so many people can get above 5k salary. i cut didi.

where got so good one life. almost every job is do more, pay less.

limpeh last time worked in one company, some senior engineers already worked there for more than 5 years salary still below 3k.

of course if you say MNC will definitely earn more lor. But malaysia got many people okay. Not everyone work in MNC.
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Mine work at US MNC also salary 2K only.. so cheap they pay me

Later im join gov. My salary now 3K
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QUOTE(akidos @ Jul 2 2023, 09:48 AM)
Huh.... This is burger flipper trying to rationalize the world .

Dude , your pay is directly corelates to amount of money you make for the company . when u bring 2 mil , u expect certain pay and when u bring 80 mil , you get pay differently .
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I've seen many people assuming they're bringing millions into the company even before they're hired.

Where's the confident comes from, really tatau.
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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 05:56 PM)
I was told a lot about this too.

Saying driving a six seven years old car is a risk.

But hmm... If my new car boughted at 2016 until now is old, then what about your 2nd hand car that was 4 to 5 years old? It's not old because just come into your hand for less than 3 months?
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Mine last time 2K only salary at MNC.. mine kena tipu they give salary so low

Im resigned and join gov. My salary now 3k plus
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But again, im a sucker for rules and regulation, especially since I was here in the UK, taubat and jilat until I get my british passport. Sudah lost all those kiamsiapness, penny stretcher, and kiasu kiapokai mentality. takut shit comes then full of problem onto your head.


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QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ Jul 2 2023, 03:54 PM)
Hawt maybe?

But again, if I see someone nice and presentable come to interview also I'll give some leeway.

Especially interviewing female applicants, I always make sure to ask them write something, but provide no pen for them.

Those with one in a tidy bag, plus points, those with a fukken messy bag, even Scarjo level also I will DGAF.
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Lol. True must be tidy and dedicated.

But nowadays if do business everyday thinking sex only susah la. When we see good staff credits must b given so that they can stay with u long. Susah la lu orang.

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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There is truth to this actually because 5k is the breaking point for next income bracket which sees a drastic jump in tax from 13%-21% (2022) and 11%-19% (2023).

Any experienced accountant or HR will calculate your total estimated salary liable for tax based on 13-14 months with the excess months being performance bonus in addition to your salary.

13-month salary for 5k is already 65k, 14th month you'd already be in the next income bracket with additional claims included.

Thus the reason why if you're smart in calculation you don't want to earn more than 5k. At least for a wage earner, you'll be taxed almost double in the next income bracket level, F

Those earning above 7k GG for them income tax per year is almost 25% shakehead.gif

Those 1M above as high as almost 30% shocking.gif

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We are talking gross or nett?
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TS your age is below 30 I assume?
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sorry, no disclose.

but there are many 30s still earn below 5k okay.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 01:49 PM)
Its not about bragging.
Its about having the time to do the things you wanna do & are you using your time wisely?

Put it this way lah
Given that one still have to slave and work hard regardless of MY SG or wherever:

Might as well use the same time to earn better for the same work (within the 20 years of a person's prime money-making period) rather than paycheck to paycheck life
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I actually agree with your premise about using time wisely. The problem I have is the base assumption. The reality is you generally spend where you earn. RM 10K isn't really a lot: maybe less than 3K SGD. That's noob level salary there. In Singapore where inflation is imported, most of it is gonna go to one's rental or transport or food, that maybe some left over then to splurge when you save up for the occasional junket in JB. That's the reality for most of the folks at the lower end of the salary scale. So by saying one has RM10K after conversion one's just telling the world that they're the equivalent of B40/B50 in Singapore. If they are EP holders and above, then okla, got some chance for social mobility and upgrade if they are still young, maybe conversion to PR or Singapore citizenship. All the more less need to convert the money since they won't be spending much of it in Malaysia, unless they are talking about retirement, which is probably some way away.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Ukk lecturer is 5k plus
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We are talking gross or nett?
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LHDN calculates based on gross payout by your employer.

The difference between 5k and above separates you from 2 different brackets which requires you to contribute almost twice the amount of tax from 11% to 19%. Big jump.


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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Jul 2 2023, 06:15 PM)
Lol. True must be tidy and dedicated.

But nowadays if do business everyday thinking sex only susah la. When we see good staff credits must b given so that they can stay with u long.  Susah la lu orang.
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Maybe because they didn't get it easy....
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If u don’t yolo and simply buy useless stuffs, u will have reasonable amount of money left to save…….(not say just sgd 3k pay, more than that la)
Considering the cost of meals, everyday expenses, no car (take first class public transportation) and the low tax rate…end of the month confirm got money left…..

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jul 2 2023, 06:35 PM)
Ukk lecturer is 5k plus
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Nowadays I also seeing many lecturers applying for education non related jobs. Times are bad. They're also asking for <5k salaries.

University of Melbourne cuts 450 jobs due to projected losses of $1bn over three years
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/...ver-three-years


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Ukk lecturer is 5k plus
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8k nett after epf/tax is very normal in klang valley
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 06:30 PM)
sorry, no disclose.

but there are many 30s still earn below 5k okay.
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I think yes alot still earn below 5k, just that the demographic here in lyn probably got many high earner here hence giving u the said perceptions.

I think generally probably in 5ppl, only 2 are 5k or above earner.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jul 2 2023, 11:06 AM)
Klang valley 10k is common la dey
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i know there can be higher salary. But im not from there. And malaysia got many other places.

My point of view include all places, even rural areas like sarawak pahang etc and any other places that have lower cost living

if i go kl there work salary higher but living cost also higher. no use.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 06:19 PM)
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There is truth to this actually because 5k is the breaking point for next income bracket which sees a drastic jump in tax from 13%-21% (2022) and 11%-19% (2023).

Any experienced accountant or HR will calculate your total estimated salary liable for tax based on 13-14 months with the excess months being performance bonus in addition to your salary.

13-month salary for 5k is already 65k, 14th month you'd already be in the next income bracket with additional claims included.

Thus the reason why if you're smart in calculation you don't want to earn more than 5k. At least for a wage earner, you'll be taxed almost double in the next income bracket level, F

Those earning above 7k GG for them income tax per year is almost 25% shakehead.gif

Those 1M above as high as almost 30%  shocking.gif
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Can claim back some taxes ma... Because no want to pay tax you want lower salary..?

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QUOTE(dman @ Jul 2 2023, 06:42 PM)
I think yes alot still earn below 5k, just that the demographic here in lyn probably got many high earner here hence giving u the said perceptions.

I think generally probably in 5ppl, only 2 are 5k or above earner.
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yalor. i think maybe i misunderstood /k. it's a trolling place and i believed whatever ktard said is serios.

if so many people above 5k gg lor. i can't find much of them in real life. But that's maybe of my location.

Majority i see is 3k, and stuck there for their whole life.
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QUOTE(kens88` @ Jul 2 2023, 06:46 PM)
Can claim back some taxes ma... Because no want to pay tax you want lower salary..?
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Besides both your suggestions there're more tricks to get around.

The lower the income bracket the more you can claim tax exemptions if you know your calculations well.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 06:43 PM)
i know there can be higher salary. But im not from there. And malaysia got many other places.

My point of view include all places, even rural areas like sarawak pahang etc and any other places that have lower cost living

if i go kl there work salary higher but living cost also higher. no use.
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i think many misunderstood TS

i believe what TS meant is, out of 100% of the working population in the country

only about 20% are probably earning above 10k and above

while the remaining 80% earns anything below that 10k threshold

but majority are M40, so most are earning 5-8k range even at age 30

thats why there's T20, M40, B40
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 06:46 PM)
yalor. i think maybe i misunderstood /k. it's a trolling place and i believed whatever ktard said is serios.

if so many people above 5k gg lor. i can't find much of them in real life. But that's maybe of my location.

Majority i see is 3k, and stuck there for their whole life.
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My point of view include all places, even rural areas like sarawak pahang etc and any other places that have lower cost living
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From what I read, Sarawak and Sabah, normal working lunch is actually more expensive than most part of malaysia and almost as much as KL…is this true
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 06:46 PM)
yalor. i think maybe i misunderstood /k. it's a trolling place and i believed whatever ktard said is serios.

if so many people above 5k gg lor. i can't find much of them in real life. But that's maybe of my location.

Majority i see is 3k, and stuck there for their whole life.
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I'm sure you're a hiring employer yourself, did you see many people with more than 5k salary at your place(non KV, Penang/JB)?

Shown you the income bracket table based on 13/14-months estimated gross annual salary.
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Jul 2 2023, 01:21 PM)
You you live with yourself earning so little?

If by 30 I didn't hit 10k/month I would kill myself for sure
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Don't be like that bang. Everyone has their own rezeki. Some can make 10k before 30, some not.

That's life.
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Jul 2 2023, 06:48 PM)
i think many misunderstood TS

i believe what TS meant is, out of 100% of the working population in the country

only about 20% are probably earning above 10k and above

while the remaining 80% earns anything below that 10k threshold

but majority are M40, so most are earning 5-8k range even at age 30

thats why there's T20, M40, B40
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Judging from the replies you read from this forum, you can already make a wild guess what income type bracket people lurks around in here. icon_idea.gif

It gives you a false sense of the real situation of this country.
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My friend do housemanship also 5k salary le
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jul 2 2023, 06:38 PM)
If u don’t yolo and simply buy useless stuffs, u will have reasonable amount of money left to save…….(not say just sgd 3k pay, more than that la)
Considering the cost of meals, everyday expenses, no car (take first class public transportation) and the low tax rate…end of the month confirm got money left…..
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I don't have issue with how people spend their money. I only take issue with those who misrepresent it in the context in which it is discussed. How much one earns in Singapore is not particularly relevant to the majority of Malaysians after conversion to RM, unless they are remote working and actually living in Malaysia. Yes, other than remote workers there are some who actually earn sgd physically in Singapore and then live in Malaysia but these are majority B40 WP holders who commute across the Causeway anyway so really doesn't add value to the larger discussion of our own job market. So most of the time I consider it's just people bragging on the internet to feel good about themselves.

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5 figure salary common nowadays at KV cos ts u never friend with this people
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From what I read, Sarawak and Sabah, normal working lunch is actually more expensive than most part of malaysia and almost as much as KL…is this true
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 2 2023, 06:19 PM)
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There is truth to this actually because 5k is the breaking point for next income bracket which sees a drastic jump in tax from 13%-21% (2022) and 11%-19% (2023).

Any experienced accountant or HR will calculate your total estimated salary liable for tax based on 13-14 months with the excess months being performance bonus in addition to your salary.

13-month salary for 5k is already 65k, 14th month you'd already be in the next income bracket with additional claims included.

Thus the reason why if you're smart in calculation you don't want to earn more than 5k. At least for a wage earner, you'll be taxed almost double in the next income bracket level, F

Those earning above 7k GG for them income tax per year is almost 25% shakehead.gif

Those 1M above as high as almost 30%  shocking.gif
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That's the point also, as senior exec already paying close to senior management/C level taxes hmm.gif doesn't seem fair when the step is soooo high from 13 to 21 previously.

It's such a penalising move by LHDN rclxub.gif

It should be fairer stepping like what IRAS SG does:
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Can claim back some taxes ma... Because no want to pay tax you want lower salary..?
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How much can claim, medical fee of parent + smartphone + EPF standard stuff, won't make much of a dent because it's relief not rebate
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malaysia got like 33 million people.. how many people you heard got 10k salary?

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I think Malaysia does not spawn enough new local corporate companies that can spend money to hire high quality employee with high salary ...

And corporate that already existing in Malaysia if you look at their performance is so-so not growing significantly, so they will also not be willing to hire more with higher salary ...

This got worse due to our political instability, we failed to attract more foreign investment, most MNC rather setup office in Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines than Malaysia ... in fact some MNC are retrenching ...

So before we are asking why the number of people earning beyond 10k is low, i think we should look at our own economy ... which is not going anywhere ...

When you are earning 2k, will think 5k alot, and when you are at 5k will think 10k a lot .. so one will think 30k a lot ... everyone will go thru this process but always feel money not enough ... this is due to lifestyle, when you earn more you keep upgrading your lifestyle, bigger house, bigger car, bigger family, bigger vacation, bigger hobby etc ... so money will always not enough .. and it is not easy to retrace back worry of losing face in front of friends ... it is a perfect trap businesses wants you to fall into ...

So, it is right, if you want to earn more, you should start your own business, start small and grow it slowly ... and it will eventually breach the level you are stucked with ... 10k profit per month for business owner is totally possible ... and the perks, you have a lot of deductions from taxes. There are 20-50k jobs out there ... but not easy to get unless you have exceptional experiences ... and also you should ask yourself, if you are a business owner, how big is your business till you are willing to hire someone for RM30-50k? ...

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malaysia got like 33 million people.. how many people you heard got 10k salary?
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How many people:
Answer - about the number of /k.
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for convenience, we just take total member of lowyat.net forum including dupes.. that about 1 million members. so that around 3% of population. still less than the claim T20 (20%). so ya, the statistic still hold, a lot more 10K 20K out there..
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 07:55 PM)
That's the point also, as senior exec already paying close to senior management/C level taxes  hmm.gif doesn't seem fair when the step is soooo high from 13 to 21 previously.

It's such a penalising move by LHDN  rclxub.gif

It should be fairer stepping like what IRAS SG does:

How much can claim, medical fee of parent + smartphone + EPF standard stuff, won't make much of a dent because it's relief not rebate
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as usual lah, politician always hunt for the average rich. Because they are enough for them to collect tax but their cable is not high enough to threaten politician.

2023 tax rate they go and touch the middle bracket 24/24.5 to 25%, 26% to 28%.
while the left the top bracket unchanged top kek
and never bother introduce top bracket above 30%.

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as usual lah, politician always hunt for the average rich. Because they are enough for them to collect tax but their cable is not high enough to threaten politician.

2023 tax rate they go and touch the middle bracket 24/24.5 to 25%, 26% to 28%.
while the left the top bracket unchanged top kek
and never bother introduce top bracket above 30%.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 08:28 PM)
Gave up feeding the other 32++ million and dunno how many more undocumented laugh.gif
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they cant touch most undocumented as long as crony exist lol

unless those people self pwn themselves by showing off.

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QUOTE(brkli @ Jul 2 2023, 07:59 PM)
malaysia got like 33 million people.. how many people you heard got 10k salary?
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Quite a lot...

Just go to MalaysiaPayGap... there also so many >RM10k earner at mid 20's to early 30's... so mid 30's to late 50's confirm easy RM10k...


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QUOTE(brkli @ Jul 2 2023, 11:59 AM)
malaysia got like 33 million people.. how many people you heard got 10k salary?
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From the social circle of mine lah (45-46-47 years old group)

Assume there's 100 people still in frequent contact, only few has over 10k nett masuk pocket per month. (As the makan gaji people)

Only a few that had business, which is super duper unstable but always make it look like business good until next year need open few more outlets.

The rest, all still selling Usana la, herbalife la, sharing their michelin star food weekly during weekend, panjat bukit la, pigi main air la, oversea la, etc. But looks pokgai humgarchan poor.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 2 2023, 08:54 PM)
Quite a lot...

Just go to MalaysiaPayGap... there also so many >RM10k earner at mid 20's to early 30's... so mid 30's to late 50's confirm easy RM10k...
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Idk but isn’t that selective bias? People with shit to show off will self report their income, or just plain trolling. Average people have no reasons to share. Admin also hand pick controversial cases to share.
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but even 5K, assuming they zero bonus and epf / socso deducted in taxable calculation, they still pay RM1,532, and deduct the PCB 1,320 which mean they pay 212 only, not even enough for 4 week food expenses.

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 12:13 PM)
Tax rate high also, even earn 8k after minus EPF baru 6.5k nett
Summore no bonus doh.gif

Might as well kerja SG
13th month already in hand
14th and 15th month bonus is typical
And low tax laugh.gif
Flying someplace nice like Korea or Japan or Germany is typical for even freshie singkie.
Even as team lead back in KL is all local trip only, can’t afford shit. Lol

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kesian TS can't even make 5k in 2023

even if you make 8-10k a month in kl/selangor, is just barely enough to live comfortably (with savings)
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haiyo, either jump or connection can get easily those 10 - 20 - 30 k, some born with already golden spoon and show off in instragram and everyday go cheong without STD. To be honest i think nett 6-10k is the bare minimum for most of expenses. I learn this the hard way but i need further education to secure higher salary later on.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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But i am chao sinkie
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If they claim 10k above just do follow up question how much money in epf. Those liar wont get figures align with salary one.
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10k and above is quite normal depending on your industry. I’ve 5 staff under me, 3 of them already I’m paying more than 10k
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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Dei, I was earning >5k before graduating from uni, more than 15 years ago...

Most people I know broke 5k barrier within 2-3 years of working. Almost everyone I know now are earning >10k, closer to 20k for most people.
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jul 2 2023, 06:52 PM)
From what I read, Sarawak and Sabah, normal working lunch is actually more expensive than most part of malaysia and almost as much as KL…is this true
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From my point of view, i think the answer is yes and no.

Sarawak is a big state. Got many cities in there. Each city has different living costs.

For example, in Kapit, the economy rice can cost a lot. I'm not sure about the current price. But in the past, when i went there, the economy rice can be RM9 (2 vegies, 1 meat).

However, in other places like Sibu and Sarikei, the economy rice just cost RM3.5 (2 vegies, 1 meat). The price is outdated now. But since I compare with Kapit's outdated price, so, i use outdated Sibu and Sarikei price.

Do bear in mind that right now in 2023, in Sibu and Sarikei, it's no longer RM3.5. The price has risen.

Miri also has higher living costs than Sibu and Sarikei.

Sabah like KK has higher living costs too.

So, it really depends on the location. There is no definite answer that says yes or no.
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QUOTE(tom_tombak @ Jul 2 2023, 07:46 PM)
5 figure salary common nowadays at KV cos ts u never friend with this people
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But it's just klang valley. There are more people outside KV than people inside KV. So, it's still minority.

Btw, the living cost there is high.

So, while it may be true that KV people are earning more than 10k (i said it may be true, because i havent seen anyone earning more than 10k in real life yet), the living cost is high.

So, i would say that, earning 10k salary in KV is like earning 3k in a rural area?


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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 2 2023, 07:51 PM)
2 vege, 1 meat, 1 rice = rm10
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where? RM10 seems like Kapit or Miri?

If RM10 in Sibu Sarikei Bintangor, will get raped
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in kl gaji 5-15k is normal

im a software engineer and worked for 4 years and recently changed new company now gaji 6k

i have friend who worked 5 years much higher gaji than me



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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 2 2023, 09:30 PM)
kesian TS can't even make 5k in 2023

even if you make 8-10k a month in kl/selangor, is just barely enough to live comfortably (with savings)
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5k should be relativity. 5k in KL is not rich. But 5k in rural area in Sarawak is a very respectable amount, where your degree holder peers are just earning 1.8k an month in that area. Some also just 2.5k, max is 3k.

Location is very important i think. i tell you, 5k is really a huge salary in some places. Do you know how many degree holders in some places just earning 1.8k-2.5k a month? and they are not fresh grad. They have experience already. It's not stupid jobs. It's engineering, accountant etc

So, if you earn 5k - 7k in that area, you are really looked high upon and many people will jealous you.

Let me surprise you with a fact. More than 5 years ago (before min gaji RM1.2k was announced), my friend fresh grad become accountant. Salary just RM900/month. Full time. Sarawak.

Another fact. Chemical engineering degree from USM. Go sarawak work, only RM1800/month.

My own experience? I went to sarawak work with my electrical engineering degree. My salary was RM2100. And my salary was higher than some of my colleagues. Enough to use or not? No. I managed to survive 2 years and found better job

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 2 2023, 10:55 PM)
Dei, I was earning >5k before graduating from uni, more than 15 years ago...

Most people I know broke 5k barrier within 2-3 years of working. Almost everyone I know now are earning >10k, closer to 20k for most people.
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Jul 2 2023, 11:04 PM)
in kl gaji 5-15k is normal

im a software engineer and worked for 4 years and recently changed new company now gaji 6k

i have friend who worked 5 years much higher gaji than me
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okay thanks. i didn't know kl salary that high
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Jul 2 2023, 11:04 PM)
in kl gaji 5-15k is normal

im a software engineer and worked for 4 years and recently changed new company now gaji 6k

i have friend who worked 5 years much higher gaji than me
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QUOTE(superbike @ Jul 2 2023, 10:04 PM)
This forum banyak 2 inch that is insecure with their income, hence they lie. Just look at that loudmouth brag sexysarah1992 talks like as if he is the richest man in the world.
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macam yes. maybe just blow.

when i join /k, i realized /k have so many rich people. Me in real life, hard to find such people with high salary like /k in real life.

made me wonder how /k people are so successful. Last time my branch manager just earn RM3k-RM4k.

I bingung see /k say RM5k is so low.

I always thought malaysia work culture is work more, pay less. I wonder how /k got such high paid.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 PM)
5k should be relativity. 5k in KL is not rich. But 5k in rural area in Sarawak is a very respectable amount, where your degree holder peers are just earning 1.8k an month in that area. Some also just 2.5k, max is 3k.

Location is very important i think. i tell you, 5k is really a huge salary in some places. Do you know how many degree holders in some places just earning 1.8k-2.5k a month? and they are not fresh grad. They have experience already. It's not stupid jobs. It's engineering, accountant etc

So, if you earn 5k - 7k in that area, you are really looked high upon and many people will jealous you.

Let me surprise you with a fact. More than 5 years ago (before min gaji RM1.2k was announced), my friend fresh grad become accountant. Salary just RM900/month. Full time. Sarawak.

Another fact. Chemical engineering degree from USM. Go sarawak work, only RM1800/month.

My own experience? I went to sarawak work with my electrical engineering degree. My salary was RM2100. And my salary was higher than some of my colleagues. Enough to use or not? No. I managed to survive 2 years and found better job
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Sarawak lol that is a secluded Soviet state which is a shitty place for pipits with no businesses there

you should have already know how expensive the property in Kuching has become

with the meagre wage of the salary earners there, they work till die in this life also can't get a place of their own

the economics of Sarawak is 90% concentrated on the oligarchs based on there, even businesses from the peninsular has no place there, how to not become rich if you own one of those homegrown businesses there? But pity their pipits, have to fly to peninsular for 3-4k job and probably can't afford a flight ticket to their hometown during festives


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Real question to see how financially rich a person are is to ask can they live without all the items paying installment now, ie Cars, House, etc
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:44 PM)
macam yes. maybe just blow.

when i join /k, i realized /k have so many rich people. Me in real life, hard to find such people with high salary like /k in real life.

made me wonder how /k people are so successful. Last time my branch manager just earn RM3k-RM4k.

I bingung see /k say RM5k is so low.

I always thought malaysia work culture is work more, pay less. I wonder how /k got such high paid.
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it really depends on which social circles you hang out with

on weekends take a stroll on the premium malls like Midvalley, Sunway, and Pavilion, you'd be surprised at the buying powers of the patrons there

the recent school holidays that just ended, even for just a few days already can see the surge in foot traffic in domestic tourism hotspots, and even some neighboring countries, young kids not even reaching college age already learn so many interest classes eg diving, swimming, ballet, free diving, yada yada

bookings for Mercs, BM reaches new record in 2022, concert tickets sold out in minutes, ROG Ally has people queuing since 3am, prop agents keep telling you this block that block already sold out

this is a norm in capitalist society, no need to feel jealous of them, instead just spend your energy on how to unlock more wealth in your pocket

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I work in KL, >10 years experience as videographer/ editor, now Producer and only this year got above 5K salary.
For my standard I consider myself damn loser ady, work so damn long only can achieve that figure.
Don't know why you think 5K is hard to achieve when it's actually very easy.
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kl gaji range is quite high
5 figure is normal for sr exec position, at least in my company la

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RM 10 x 40 students per session = RM 400

3 sessions per week = RM 1200

RM 1200 x 4 weeks = RM 4800

Practical approach, let say 70% from RM 4800 = RM 3300 (lebih kurang)

All of your commitments settle (pakai Saga bila perlu, duduk service apartment di KV, pergi kerja pakai motorsikal) without usik gaji kerja tetap
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If in KL, you don't earn more than 10k, then you are a loser

Really pathetic and useless

Unless you are fresh graduate

With 7 years of experience, 10k is nothing
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i want to say is ,a lot in /k are rich and not trolled.
rm10k-20k is so common nowadays.
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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jul 3 2023, 02:47 AM)
If in KL, you don't earn more than 10k, then you are a loser

Really pathetic and useless

Unless you are fresh graduate

With 7 years of experience, 10k is nothing
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Most earn it with work experience and age. Good qualifications

Real life ex of my family members.

- wife around 8-8.5k . 12 years+ working experience in banking age 37 this year

- my oldest sis. Around rm10.5-11k. 20 years exp in banking. Age 46 this year.

- younger sis. Blood specialist Dr. Head of Dept. Gomen Hosp. Her salary bracket max level edi before JUSA. Celery+fixed allowance around rm14-16k per month. Age 39.

- Uni best fren. Grad electrical engineer. Same age with me 41. Later got job with MISC and a few license and training later become shipping maintenance engineer. Always offshore. Income average rm30-45k a month.

- ex bro in law. Similar to unker best fren. Mid 30s. Grad ALAM academy. Navigational deck. Used to earn rm30-40k a month offshore. Now dunno why refuse to berlayar. Wanna open own biz but keep struggling. With mountains of property commitment. Probably gg soon.

- Another uni best fren. Struggle to do engineering. Change to mgmt/acct and grad at age 25-26. Work banking. Last few years take masters data science. Already grad. He became trainer in bank few years before jumping to trainers/consultant for banking client. He inform 5 figures celery edi. Not sure exact how much. Probably 10-14k. Age 41

- Own bro. Doctor. General practitioner in gomen. Trsrf to borneo now. Wife Head of Dept. Obviously once semenanjung por trsfr to borneo they gonna get extra harship allowance. Both income confirm >rm10k one…

So in a sense rm8-15k achievable. Coz most /k and their circle of family/relatives and frens is unker aunty level edi 😅😓

PS: oh yeah most unker real life example still mostly lose to /kturds 20k a month stabdard except for 2 pipur working in ships that i know off.

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if my sibling or in law

my sister about 7k as private school teacher (excluding tuition income)
her husband about 8k as private school teacher as well (excluding tuition income)

my young sister as QS (with SR title) - about 11k
her husband at construction/developer field - about 14k

my wife is real C.A. [unlike Lim Guan Eng] now in MNC company - about 7k excluding bonuses
myself is kuli in MNC - gaji 5 figure

my sibling info quite outdated ; about 2 3 years ago punya data

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:27 AM)
if my sibling or in law

my sister about 7k as private school teacher (excluding tuition income)
her husband about 8k as private school teacher as well  (excluding tuition income)

my young sister as QS (with SR title) - about 11k
her husband at construction/developer field - about 14k

my wife is real C.A. [unlike Lim Guan Eng] now in MNC company - about 7k excluding bonuses
myself is kuli in MNC - gaji 5 figure

my sibling info quite outdated ; about 2 3 years ago punya data
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Was lucky enough to somehow end up in tech, stuck with a pretty decent chinaman company which averages at least 1k increment annually due to one leg kick nature of job so kinda propelled the salary in the first few years, now hopping around looking for the perfect work life balance role with >15k income then I'm probably set

With a bit of luck and some hard work at the right timing, I think it's not too difficult,but I do get that different industries different la of coz
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 PM)
5k should be relativity. 5k in KL is not rich. But 5k in rural area in Sarawak is a very respectable amount, where your degree holder peers are just earning 1.8k an month in that area. Some also just 2.5k, max is 3k.

Location is very important i think. i tell you, 5k is really a huge salary in some places. Do you know how many degree holders in some places just earning 1.8k-2.5k a month? and they are not fresh grad. They have experience already. It's not stupid jobs. It's engineering, accountant etc

So, if you earn 5k - 7k in that area, you are really looked high upon and many people will jealous you.

Let me surprise you with a fact. More than 5 years ago (before min gaji RM1.2k was announced), my friend fresh grad become accountant. Salary just RM900/month. Full time. Sarawak.

Another fact. Chemical engineering degree from USM. Go sarawak work, only RM1800/month.

My own experience? I went to sarawak work with my electrical engineering degree. My salary was RM2100. And my salary was higher than some of my colleagues. Enough to use or not? No. I managed to survive 2 years and found better job
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Last twok week go Sabah, fulamak meal is quite expensive than JB, one pan mee soup cost you RM10 in Ranau area ( Hok Kien foortcourt, guess is tourism places.),
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QUOTE(malibuchong @ Jul 3 2023, 01:50 AM)
i want to say is ,a lot in /k are rich and not trolled.
rm10k-20k is so common nowadays.
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i need statistics for this. how common is it. 10k is a huge amount. If KL, i would believe it maybe, since i never work at KL before, but i did hear people say KL salary higher, but living cost higher.

If you say age is almost retire, and he work government job, yearly increment salary RM200, then i will believe his salary probably around 9k 10k la...

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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:33 AM)
Last twok week go Sabah, fulamak meal is quite expensive than JB, one pan mee soup cost you RM10 in Ranau area ( Hok Kien foortcourt, guess is tourism places.),
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Sabah is pretty high. Yes. I've been there too. Sabah quite expensive
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:34 AM)
i need statistics for this. how common is it. 10k is a huge amount. If KL, i would believe it maybe, since i never work at KL before, but i did hear people say KL salary higher, but living cost higher.
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Lulz never work in KL

When living under a rock, no need come out with stupid statements next time k

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Jul 3 2023, 09:37 AM)
Lulz never work in KL

When living under a rock, no need come out with stupid statements next time k
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do you expect everyone worked in kl? If like that, later those who go sg work look down you work in kl la.
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Jul 3 2023, 09:38 AM)
Even our service technician is making 5k - 7k a month, what's so surprise?
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really? technician level 5k? where?

My technicians last time only earn RM1.5k
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K got many unker la. Cikai2 Oso 10k easily
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do you expect everyone worked in kl? If like that, later those who go sg work look down you work in kl la.
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Well you didnt expect people to work in KL? Thats why come up with sohai thread to say 5k is high salary

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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:23 AM)
See how many working in sinkapore.... Those are all your rm 10k
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Yea, just an executive already can get $3k, which means RM10k+ already

QUOTE(squareballs @ Jul 2 2023, 11:30 AM)
5k is very little la. you cant even earn 5k, doesnt mean majority also cant
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:36 AM)
Really ah why don’t believe Ah? 3-4k is freshie level to 3 years salary de

One must not waste time being average. Read back dreamer101 teachings.
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Maybe, just maybe TS not from Selangor, KL, Johor? In many small states, companies still only paying RM1.6k - RM1.8k for freshies. After a few years increments, maybe still below RM2.5k.

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 2 2023, 11:40 AM)
5k is like 3-3.5k 5 years ago…

Raise your standard pls..

1 pipur go makan chao fan with drinks already average rm8-11…. X 2.5 times per day.

Not yet counting if u married and wife kids no need makan??
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But do companies care about these?

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Jul 3 2023, 09:41 AM)
Well you didnt expect people to work in KL? Thats why come up with sohai thread to say 5k is high salary
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KL population more than whole population outside kl meh? i suppose /k is not all from KL?
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really? technician level 5k? where?

My technicians last time only earn RM1.5k
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TS halo...alot ppl edi say KL KL KL...then u keep say dont troll la other place than KL la.. no other place la. Only KL. U wan make 10K. Come KL

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K got many unker la. Cikai2 Oso 10k easily
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The unker i saw working in government job also only 9k per month. want retire liao
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:38 AM)
do you expect everyone worked in kl? If like that, later those who go sg work look down you work in kl la.
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do you expect everyone to cucuk tanam anggur in the kampung goyang telo/goyang papaya BR1M drop from the sky? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

even in US teenagers also move out from ulu shit to work in the city taking a greyhound bus
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If you got degree, high chance To get above 5k with in 3-5years.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 3 2023, 10:42 AM)
Yea, just an executive already can get $3k, which means RM10k+ already
Maybe, just maybe TS not from Selangor, KL, Johor? In many small states, companies still only paying RM1.6k - RM1.8k for freshies. After a few years increments, maybe still below RM2.5k.
But do companies care about these?
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No choice u have to acquire specific in demand skills that not many ppl have. If you are just a generic worker with not much knowledge experience on specific in demand work. Sure got treat like sampah and paid minimal wage.

See this financial faiz podcast episode:



This 2 founders inform their student just SPM only and can speak and understand japanese language basic - intermediate level only. Not that good. Still got hited by Japenese MNC co for rm5k a month… They also used to work as Japanese language customer service/support and get paid rm8k a month. Only answering 5-8 calls a day.

Thats the difference when you have in demand skills that not many workforce in the market have.
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Jul 3 2023, 09:42 AM)
TS halo...alot ppl edi say KL KL KL...then u keep say dont troll la  other place than KL la.. no other place la. Only KL. U wan make 10K. Come KL
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oh ok lor.. no i dont want go kl work. food expensive, everything expensive. house expensive. for what earning more and expending more
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cinaman company where got that pay, in PJ senior staff get around 4k only

to get to 10k+, need to spend 10-20 yrs, work in MNCs and maybe work in sales then can get more than 10 lah
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:47 AM)
oh ok lor.. no i dont want go kl work. food expensive, everything expensive. house expensive. for what earning more and expending more
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that's why people go SG brows.gif
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:34 AM)
i need statistics for this. how common is it. 10k is a huge amount. If KL, i would believe it maybe, since i never work at KL before, but i did hear people say KL salary higher, but living cost higher.

If you say age is almost retire, and he work government job, yearly increment salary RM200, then i will believe his salary probably around 9k 10k la...
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Got one KL aunty, husband work in penang keep die die saying penang salary higher than kl. Is it true?
The hubby work as some mechanical engineer in penang cinapek kilang.
Or the hubby just lie to her and have another gf in penang
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TS, you may want to change your topic to "except people working in KL, Selangor and Johor"
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Overall in the whole malaysia only KL is moving fast and keep in need of people. Spore closing down call centre and low tech company. Moving to KL. Is near to regional HQ and people can speak English and other languages.

Second in place is of course Penang. Then the rest is mainly offshore works where HQ aso in KL but report to respective states. They got good salary 10k above and low expense. But mostly will come back KL to live in city.

So TS stop with malaysia only KL statement. Malaysia really only KL running. Other places slow like snail.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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lol mid level corporate/bank/MNCs easily 10k.
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KL population more than whole population outside kl meh? i suppose /k is not all from KL?
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You think k population not majority klang valley meh

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Weren’t there some details on median household income by state ?
Median household income in Malaysia is around Rm7k which means per person is around Rm3.5k.

But majority of those in this forum could be relatively wealthier.
Most people here likely have internet since the 2000s / early 2010s … which means they likely live in a city that has a better internet connection. Median income in KL is significantly higher.

Forumers here are also in their 30s-40s which has the highest earning capacity among the various age groups.

As this is mainly an English forum, this would already give them an advantage in the job market over the majority who do not have a good command of the language.

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Jul 3 2023, 09:49 AM)
Weren’t there some details on median household income by state ?
Median household income in Malaysia is around Rm7k which means per person is around Rm3.5k.

But majority of those in this forum could be relatively wealthier.
Most people here likely have internet since the 2000s / early 2010s … and they likely live in a city in KL. Median income in KL is significantly higher.

Forumers age group here are also in ghe 30s-40s which is the peak earning capacity for most.

As this is mainly an English forum, this would already give them an advantage in the job market over the majority who do not have a good command of the language.
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Wow, that's a good analysis. I do not doubt you are one of the high earners.
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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:47 AM)
cinaman company where got that pay, in PJ senior staff get around 4k only

to get to 10k+, need to spend 10-20 yrs, work in MNCs and maybe work in sales then can get more than 10 lah
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nice. this one seems more reality. i believe in this.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:47 AM)
that's why people go SG  brows.gif
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i got heard my sg friend work there said they regret go there and want back again. lol idk why
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 3 2023, 09:48 AM)
TS, you may want to change your topic to "except people working in KL, Selangor and Johor"
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i see.. i should have considered this.
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Jul 3 2023, 09:49 AM)
You think k population not majority klang valley meh
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Jul 3 2023, 05:49 AM)
Weren’t there some details on median household income by state ?
Median household income in Malaysia is around Rm7k which means per person is around Rm3.5k.

But majority of those in this forum could be relatively wealthier.
Most people here likely have internet since the 2000s / early 2010s … which means they likely live in a city that has a better internet connection. Median income in KL is significantly higher.

Forumers here are also in their 30s-40s which has the highest earning capacity among the various age groups.

As this is mainly an English forum, this would already give them an advantage in the job market over the majority who do not have a good command of the language.
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good points

not to forget being able to surf /k and blow water is a luxury

how many factory worker got extra time to play internet?

how many those having above 5 kids got time to play phone?

so blow water here is actually a luxury
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:56 AM)
how i know? here users no show location one.
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You can roughly sus out when nostalgia threads related to specific locations in Malaysia are opened and the amount of participants

However this covers only the active users. There are many users that just lurk

So your guess is as good as mine
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:58 AM)
good points

not to forget being able to surf /k and blow water is a luxury

how many factory worker got extra time to play internet?

how many those having above 5 kids got time to play phone?

so blow water here is actually a luxury
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Yup mostly this

Cept for cicak novblaze

He blows water here to tell the whole world how kesian he is kek
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 05:56 AM)
how i know? here users no show location one.
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i cna conlanfirm u here no people from state of teh tarik

caz everytime bash teh tarik no warrior appear
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i need statistics for this. how common is it. 10k is a huge amount. If KL, i would believe it maybe, since i never work at KL before, but i did hear people say KL salary higher, but living cost higher.

If you say age is almost retire, and he work government job, yearly increment salary RM200, then i will believe his salary probably around 9k 10k la...
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many rich uncle and working overseas ppl are also in /k…you think /k only for ppl that stay in malaysia?

you want to seek for higher salary/income,my advise is get out from the cave…
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nice. this one seems more reality. i believe in this.
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what I learned over the years is, people need to build up experience AND PAYSLIPS to demand for a certain pay

let's say if you work in SG before and got an offer to come back, definitely ur pay would be much higher than your upcoming colleagues with no overseas working experience(and payslip)
same story with people hopping to new place every few years or hop from MNCs to smaller companies

I found out that the same post won't necessarily pay the same for everyone, and if you got experience and payslip to nego, your pay can easily surpass the posted wage cause the employer might see something else from you and won't mind paying that
In the grand scheme of things, a few thousands every month is just one spare tyre for their new porsche or not even 0.1% of the company operation cost rolleyes.gif

OTOH, experience is a valuable thing that company can pay easily, imagine you got 5-10 yrs more experience than a fresher in a certain industry, the company is earning big times to just pay 50-100% more to save training a staff from ground up to be extremely efficient and have enormous networking and contacts with him

rich people buy time with money basically, if they can afford to fail a business in a year for tens of millionsm, then they can gain experience a CEO only can get after he has worked for 20-30 years icon_idea.gif

OR u work in a SG company, get paid in SGD but you get to stay here to work remote, easily 10K+++ after converted brows.gif

also pay is very industry dependent, like I said sales, or programming related or doctor confirm good pay lah icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 AM)
So many people claim their salary 5k, 6k, 6k, some even 10k 20k.

Really? Or just troll?

If so many people like that salary why malaysia is still developing country.

Just want lie and swag lar...

There's one quote saying: "If you are earning average, you are actually doing better than many people."

Many people still B40 and M40.

average salary should be 3k-4k

Those who claim 7k 8k, is either high position, or lecturer, or simply just doing dirty jobs.
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We need more people like u ts.

Hard to find good workers nowdays.



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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:53 AM)
i got heard my sg friend work there said they regret go there and want back again. lol idk why
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Strawberry gen expect everything done for them meh.
SG is tough love country.

Maybe this one better, free teh tarik, coz SG have to pay $1.60 per glass?
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chokia,

<<No need to pray. life will balance itself on everyone.>>

Really?? 

1) If that is the case, why do I see so many 40s and 50s people that REGRETTED that they did not fight for better pay when they can??

2) Why do I see so many hard working and productive people taken advantage of by their employer, colleagues, and supervisors??

<<Those people who thought they're smart to negotiate, they don't always win.>>

Versus people that DO NOTHING and just PRAY??  In that case, DO NOTHING people will lose for sure.

Squeaky wheels get the grease.

It is a CHOICE.

A) Do you WAIT and PRAY for things to happen and if they don't, you WHINE?? We have plenty of WHINERS in J&C forum everyday.

Or

B) You LEARN how to negotiate and get the best deal for you versus counting on someone else to do it for you.

You wait for thing to happen or make it happen.

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If ppl want to lie, of course won’t lie having such a low salary as 5-10k la.

Taking commitments and failed financial management aside, in KL, even with 12k net, you ain’t swagging around at all, hell if you masuk bmw/mercs showroom and show a measly 15-17k gross/12~nett payslip, they’ll think twice if you’re a serious buyer or not, and just laugh at your back or ask you go buy used car only.

You need to know, there are alot of business operators, and opportunity is plentiful, in my family business one of our subs are doing f&b, and we could charge outrageous price and serve absolute shit quality food, hiring cheapass under qualified workers and cook, and we’ll still rake in a clean 500-700k profit before we just shut that whole restaurant down and just re-open a new one under a different name but same SOP.

It works because i only need people to “alah can try once lah”, and there’s so god damn many people, we don’t even care about returning customers, we only need to get these waterfish once every 2 years or so, then change name.

Oh and you know what, despite my family businesses, i’m still a full-time employee in a MNC that can wfh, just doing stupid work type shit in front of PC also got 5 figures clean monthly PLUS “privately working” ->managing and looking out for business opportunities.

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Jul 3 2023, 09:47 AM)
cinaman company where got that pay, in PJ senior staff get around 4k only

to get to 10k+, need to spend 10-20 yrs, work in MNCs and maybe work in sales then can get more than 10 lah
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No need 10 yrs

Now a lot of talent shortage

Companies will push ppl through to achieve the breakneck growth targets they had set before covid

Mine target 15% yearly growth ...


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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 3 2023, 10:10 AM)
Strawberry gen expect everything done for them meh.
SG is tough love country.

Maybe this one better, free teh tarik, coz SG have to pay $1.60 per glass?
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if can easy job and decent pay, enough to spend, i better stay there. go out work hard hard burn liver and sacrifice health and happiness just because of hungry money, no need la.

Just live a balance life enough
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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Jul 3 2023, 10:07 AM)
what I learned over the years is, people need to build up experience AND PAYSLIPS to demand for a certain pay

let's say if you work in SG before and got an offer to come back, definitely ur pay would be much higher than your upcoming colleagues with no overseas working experience(and payslip)
same story with people hopping to new place every few years or hop from MNCs to smaller companies

I found out that the same post won't necessarily pay the same for everyone, and if you got experience and payslip to nego, your pay can easily surpass the posted wage cause the employer might see something else from you and won't mind paying that
In the grand scheme of things, a few thousands every month is just one spare tyre for their new porsche or not even 0.1% of the company operation cost  rolleyes.gif

OTOH, experience is a valuable thing that company can pay easily, imagine you got 5-10 yrs more experience than a fresher in a certain industry, the company is earning big times to just pay 50-100% more to save training a staff from ground up to be extremely efficient and have enormous networking and contacts with him

rich people buy time with money basically, if they can afford to fail a business in a year for tens of millionsm, then they can gain experience a CEO only can get after he has worked for 20-30 years  icon_idea.gif   

OR u work in a SG company, get paid in SGD but you get to stay here to work remote, easily 10K+++ after converted  brows.gif

also pay is very industry dependent, like I said sales, or programming related or doctor confirm good pay lah  icon_idea.gif
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I just fired an executive earlier while adopting the no payslip theory. Just experiences.

UNCLE WAS 47 year old .

1) told me he was retrenched from a famous bank earlier in his life.
2) sit on a pool of money and decided to take care of his kids
3) Comes with ample experience- was a team leader in earlier job.
4) no pay slip as it was years ago
5) seems well spoken and looks decent .

Ok la - what the heck just do it- i hire him kasi 10 k basic as starting.

Then my nightmare starts

1)He is the oldest in my team- can’t lead my other members instead poison them- open separate whatsapp group & create politics
2) stubborn and insist on his own way of doing things but cant be measured with end results
3) always ponteng work & inefficient in driving things up
4) doesn’t know how to kiss ass- ya i know that is not necessary but we need this in corporate- he needs to respect the chair and act accordingly.
5) bloody fucking smart and loves to debate on his old way of doing things -doesn’t work as it too slow.


Everything we do nowdays required speed and efficiency & RESULTS.

I pay that cibai 10k and he says i am too hard and too fast to judge him after 6 months- need more time maybe 1 year to GROOM HIM.

WTF BRO- i hired A SUPPOSEDLY EXPERIENCE GUY.

NOT A FRESH GRADUATE.

needless to say i trap him and fire his ass- HR WANTED TO EXTEND HIM DUE TO MERCY - NAH - i will just gull blown exposed him and fire.

Lesson learned-

I know i cannot judge everything or everyone via the same way and all is diff.

But i cant take the risk anymore. I need proven data and CAPABILITY- i need it to be factual and CONLANFIRM sure my next guy can do it. So i am shame to say i revert to the good old recommendations and payslip hiring .

Just my 2 cents of life experiences

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 3 2023, 10:19 AM)
if can easy job and decent pay, enough to spend, i better stay there. go out work hard hard burn liver and sacrifice health and happiness just because of hungry money, no need la.

Just live a balance life enough
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That is very subjective, what amount is enough?

Can you define "enough to spend"?

Are you thinking from a 5k per capita mindset or /2 /3 /4 when you have a partner and/or kids?

What happens if your house loan increase?

What happens if you need new tyre suddenly?

What happens if roof leaking?

What happens if recession hit bolehland?

Technically can ah.. in 2008 already got such job whistling.gif

QUOTE(iDk @ Apr 4 2008, 02:22 AM)
In sabah you can get 5k income, either you are selling fishes, tourist related, ah long, or the kayu balak man. The last one was known 10~20 years back, now they are properly not in malaysia anymore and they are filthy filthy rich.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 3 2023, 10:25 AM)
That is very subjective, what amount is enough?

Can you define "enough to spend"?

Are you thinking from a 5k per capita mindset or /2 /3 /4 when you have a partner and/or kids?

What happens if your house loan increase?

What happens if you need new tyre suddenly?

What happens if roof leaking?

What happens if recession hit bolehland?
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bro... in my place here, many many are just earning 1.5k only. And both couple work. Maybe wifey salary higher, or maybe husband salary higher. But also around 2.5k only. It's majority. So, husband 1.5k, wife 2.5k. We all survived.

Your 5k is not enough maybe is at your place. If 5k in my place, can sit kopitiam brag like boss already

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 3 2023, 09:42 AM)
Yea, just an executive already can get $3k, which means RM10k+ already

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A million of them in sinkapore.... This means 1 million over 10K.
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post Jul 3 2023, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(badmilk @ Jul 3 2023, 10:21 AM)
I just fired an executive earlier while adopting the no payslip theory. Just experiences.

UNCLE WAS 47 year old .

1) told me he was retrenched from a famous bank earlier in his life.
2) sit on a pool of money and decided to take care of his kids
3) Comes with ample experience- was a team leader in earlier job.
4) no pay slip as it was years ago
5) seems well spoken and looks decent .

Ok la - what the heck just do it- i hire him kasi 10 k basic as starting.

Then my nightmare starts

1)He is the oldest in my team- can’t lead my other members instead poison them- open separate whatsapp group & create politics
2) stubborn and insist on his own way of doing things but cant be measured with end results
3) always ponteng work & inefficient in driving things up
4) doesn’t know how to kiss ass- ya i know that is not necessary but we need this in corporate- he needs to respect the chair and act accordingly.
5) bloody fucking smart and loves to debate on his old way of doing things  -doesn’t work as it too slow.
Everything we do nowdays required speed and efficiency & RESULTS.

I pay that cibai 10k and he says i am too hard and too fast to judge him after 6 months- need more time maybe 1 year to GROOM HIM.

WTF BRO- i hired A SUPPOSEDLY EXPERIENCE GUY.

NOT A FRESH GRADUATE.

needless to say i trap him and fire his ass- HR WANTED TO EXTEND HIM DUE TO MERCY - NAH - i will just gull blown exposed him and fire.

Lesson learned-

I know i cannot judge everything or everyone via the same way and all is diff.

But i cant take the risk anymore. I need proven data and CAPABILITY- i need it to be factual and CONLANFIRM sure my next guy can do it. So i am shame to say i revert to the good old recommendations and payslip hiring .

Just my 2 cents of life experiences
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no payslip is a redtape man, it's like banging a girl with no condom with other guys sweat.gif

I'm not sure hiring people outside of the field is a right idea, beginner or entry role can give chance lah
management or leadership role doesn't need ALOT of technical skill, but langsung no skill is a gone case from my experience, won't be able to fit into the company culture that's a start sweat.gif
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post Jul 3 2023, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 3 2023, 09:24 AM)
Most earn it with work experience and age. Good qualifications

Real life ex of my family members.

- wife around 8-8.5k . 12 years+ working experience in banking age 37 this year

- my oldest sis. Around rm10.5-11k. 20 years exp in banking. Age 46 this year.

- younger sis. Blood specialist Dr. Head of Dept. Gomen Hosp. Her salary bracket max level edi before JUSA. Celery+fixed allowance around rm14-16k per month. Age 39.

- Uni best fren. Grad electrical engineer. Same age with me 41. Later got job with MISC and a few license and training later become shipping maintenance engineer. Always offshore. Income average rm30-45k a month.

- ex bro in law. Similar to unker best fren. Mid 30s. Grad ALAM academy. Navigational deck. Used to earn rm30-40k a month offshore. Now dunno why refuse to berlayar. Wanna open own biz but keep struggling. With mountains of property commitment. Probably gg soon.

- Another uni best fren. Struggle to do engineering. Change to mgmt/acct and grad at age 25-26. Work banking. Last few years take masters data science. Already grad. He became trainer in bank few years before jumping to trainers/consultant for banking client. He inform 5 figures celery edi. Not sure exact how much. Probably 10-14k. Age 41

- Own bro. Doctor. General practitioner in gomen. Trsrf to borneo now. Wife Head of Dept. Obviously once semenanjung por trsfr to borneo they gonna get extra harship allowance. Both income confirm >rm10k one…

So in a sense rm8-15k achievable. Coz most /k and their circle of family/relatives and frens is unker aunty level edi 😅😓

PS: oh yeah most unker real life example still mostly lose to /kturds 20k a month stabdard except for 2 pipur working in ships that i know off.
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yea, i think 10k is definitely doable la

unless you are blue collar workers, that one i got nothing to say

but for a skilled worker or office worker or white collar worker, as long as got degree or even a diploma, 10k is definitely achievable

dont say for IT la, IT now come in minimum also 3.5k d, in 7 years confirm can get 10k, unless you really suck. the bottom of the bottom shitty tier

even factory workers these days without degree can get other certifications, then can jump up the pay too
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post Jul 3 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Jul 3 2023, 10:30 AM)
no payslip is a redtape man, it's like banging a girl with no condom with other guys  sweat.gif

I'm not sure hiring people outside of the field is a right idea, beginner or entry role can give chance lah
management or leadership role doesn't need ALOT of technical skill, but langsung no skill is a gone case from my experience, won't be able to fit into the company culture that's a start  sweat.gif
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Ei itu diff.. girl got wash with dettol - just roll dices when fucking anyway.

Like licking the same spoon everyone did in ikea kan.

Thats how i lie to myself. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Jul 3 2023, 10:30 AM)
no payslip is a redtape man, it's like banging a girl with no condom with other guys  sweat.gif

I'm not sure hiring people outside of the field is a right idea, beginner or entry role can give chance lah
management or leadership role doesn't need ALOT of technical skill, but langsung no skill is a gone case from my experience, won't be able to fit into the company culture that's a start  sweat.gif
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Ei itu diff.. girl got wash with dettol - just roll dices when fucking anyway.

Like licking the same spoon everyone did in ikea kan.

Thats how i lie to myself. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 2 2023, 11:05 PM)
5k should be relativity. 5k in KL is not rich. But 5k in rural area in Sarawak is a very respectable amount, where your degree holder peers are just earning 1.8k an month in that area. Some also just 2.5k, max is 3k.

Location is very important i think. i tell you, 5k is really a huge salary in some places. Do you know how many degree holders in some places just earning 1.8k-2.5k a month? and they are not fresh grad. They have experience already. It's not stupid jobs. It's engineering, accountant etc

So, if you earn 5k - 7k in that area, you are really looked high upon and many people will jealous you.

Let me surprise you with a fact. More than 5 years ago (before min gaji RM1.2k was announced), my friend fresh grad become accountant. Salary just RM900/month. Full time. Sarawak.

Another fact. Chemical engineering degree from USM. Go sarawak work, only RM1800/month.

My own experience? I went to sarawak work with my electrical engineering degree. My salary was RM2100. And my salary was higher than some of my colleagues. Enough to use or not? No. I managed to survive 2 years and found better job
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comparatively yes

same thing as making 5k in malaysia vs making 5k in singapore

instead of complaining small towns/ rural areas giving peanut pays, you can always find a way to work at kl/selangor/penang/jb. more stress and more spending yes, but isn't that why you are paid more to begin with?

i had my accounting degree and some of my mates ended up at areas like ipoh where starting pay is rm2k lol. and i also have some friends getting paid rm3k as a freshie in KL firms. both former and latter are Perak-ians just that those that came to KL had a better idea of career growth and progression.

as for me, i gave up joining corporate since the 1st day of graduating and make around 8-10k monthly within my first year in sales field. no regrets even though it is a tough job with a lot of uncertainties.

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