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TSChowda
post Jun 25 2023, 08:08 AM, updated 3y ago

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Hello,

Any Public Banker IT staff here?

Can tell me why you guys decided to design the app like this?

I woke up this morning to my Pbe App needing an update, and the Playstore telling me that the app is no longer compatible with my phone.

How am I suppose to do anything with Public Bank now when EVERYTHING on Public Bank needs Pbesecuresign?
Can't move money out of the account to another bank without the app that I can't even reinstall on in Playstore, it is no longer an option.

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P/S: Using Huawei Nova 3i, guess I need to withdraw Cash now like some uncivilized barbarian.

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post Jun 25 2023, 08:11 AM

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Ask ppl why, expect ppl give answer. But didn't give basic info like what phone and what android version.

Seems like common sense is not that common already nowadays.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:11 AM)
Ask ppl why, expect ppl give answer. But didn't give basic info like what phone and what android version.

Seems like common sense is not that common already nowadays.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:13 AM

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post Jun 25 2023, 08:15 AM

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What Android version?
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Jun 25 2023, 08:13 AM)
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I say better wait until iPhone had usb-c

QUOTE(Atrocious @ Jun 25 2023, 08:15 AM)
What Android version?
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Definitely 9 and below.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5384779&hl=
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:16 AM

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other bank apps got minimum Android 9 if not mistaken.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Jun 25 2023, 08:15 AM)
What Android version?
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Android Version 9.

No update that I can find to 10; my phone is old I know, but no warning whatsoever from Public Bank is what triggered me.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:19 AM

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one way is change to newer phone
another method is go home branch request token for free (rm50 if you lost though)
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:08 AM)
Hello,

Any Public Banker IT staff here?

Can tell me why you guys decided to design the app like this?

Hello sir
We already notified you on this upgrade.
Didn't you receive the notice?


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post Jun 25 2023, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(akhito @ Jun 25 2023, 08:19 AM)
one way is change to newer phone
another method is go home branch request token for free (rm50 if you lost though)
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free token....only for certain banks, right?
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM

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Funny right? Last time when I’m at public bank, Many uncles aunties are told that their phones can’t support the apps. The staffs ask them to change phone.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:08 AM)
Hello,

Any Public Banker IT staff here?

Can tell me why you guys decided to design the app like this?

I woke up this morning to my Pbe App needing an update, and the Playstore telling me that the app is no longer compatible with my phone.

How am I suppose to do anything with Public Bank now when EVERYTHING on Public Bank needs Pbesecuresign?
Can't move money out of the account to another bank without the app that I can't even reinstall on in Playstore, it is no longer an option.

ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif

P/S: Using Huawei Nova 3i, guess I need to withdraw Cash now like some uncivilized barbarian.
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Redirect to the web? If so, turn off usb debugging. Mine was like that
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 25 2023, 08:21 AM)
free token....only for certain banks, right?
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ts ask about public bank so yes public provide free token since cater to many elderly customer
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:17 AM)
Android Version 9.

No update that I can find to 10; my phone is old I know, but no warning whatsoever from Public Bank is what triggered me.
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But think on the bright side. U just need to fork out maybe around 1k or less for a new phone to use the app, instead of losing much much more in your bank due to some scam or hack due to lack of securities patch in lower android.
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM)
Funny right? Last time when I’m at public bank, Many uncles aunties are told that their phones can’t support the apps. The staffs ask them to change phone.
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Refer my post above. I believe it is for the safety of consumers.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:17 AM)
Android Version 9.

No update that I can find to 10; my phone is old I know, but no warning whatsoever from Public Bank is what triggered me.
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Yeah, I've checked. And9 was launched a year before pandemic. Meaning to say, the developer now is only maintaining versions that's 5 years and lower..
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Silfer @ Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM)
Redirect to the web? If so, turn off usb debugging. Mine was like that
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No, not even a redirect, I tried topping up my ewallet, but when I wanted to access the app to do securesign, it says need to update, but then playstore state my phone no longer compatible.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(mick84 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM)
Funny right? Last time when I’m at public bank, Many uncles aunties are told that their phones can’t support the apps. The staffs ask them to change phone.
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Might as well partner with Digi/Maxis/Celcom for new phone contract
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM)
But think on the bright side. U just need to fork out maybe around 1k or less for a new phone to use the app, instead of losing much much more in your bank due to some scam or hack due to lack of securities patch in lower android.
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No news no nothing to inform customers, just let PR department sort it out right? Stupid Chinaman management
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:28 AM)
No news no nothing to inform customers, just let PR department sort it out right? Stupid Chinaman management
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Not sure if they have any other way to inform or any disclaimer in their app or banking system.

But being PB customers for so long time, I didn't receive such info before. So maybe they should improve on it.

Anyhow, small matter only la. If really can't use app, then use your phone browser lo if really urgent.
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(yongku99 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:16 AM)
other bank apps got minimum Android 9 if not mistaken.
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just check pbe reli android 10. mae only 9.
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:17 AM)
Android Version 9.

No update that I can find to 10; my phone is old I know, but no warning whatsoever from Public Bank is what triggered me.
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It’s time to hupgrade mapren
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:30 AM)
Not sure if they have any other way to inform or any disclaimer in their app or banking system.

But being PB customers for so long time, I didn't receive such info before. So maybe they should improve on it.

Anyhow, small matter only la. If really can't use app, then use your phone browser lo if really urgent.
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The browser can use PbeSecuresign? I thought only the app can do that?
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:35 AM)
The browser can use PbeSecuresign? I thought only the app can do that?
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Oh, u mean this? Then I not so sure.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:30 AM)
Not sure if they have any other way to inform or any disclaimer in their app or banking system.

But being PB customers for so long time, I didn't receive such info before. So maybe they should improve on it.

Anyhow, small matter only la. If really can't use app, then use your phone browser lo if really urgent.
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You cannot approve transaction without the app, so transfers are gg
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:37 AM

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All these problems apply only to the app, right? If you try and access using desktop, how?
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post Jun 25 2023, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 25 2023, 08:37 AM)
All these problems apply only to the app, right? If you try and access using desktop, how?
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I can log in no issue, the problems lies in the PbeSecuresign that you can only access through the app.

Want to transfer money in any way, if you don't have the app, online browser log in might as well be just me looking at numbers on the screen with no control.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:22 AM)
But think on the bright side. U just need to fork out maybe around 1k or less for a new phone to use the app, instead of losing much much more in your bank due to some scam or hack due to lack of securities patch in lower android.
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This is true when it comes to end user.

When our IT dept request them to reboot after some security patches
Complain why always update patches and kacau them.

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:28 AM)
No news no nothing to inform customers, just let PR department sort it out right? Stupid Chinaman management
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Are you sure no notice?
Or you are just being ignorant?


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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:40 AM)
Are you sure no notice?
Or you are just being ignorant?
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Bruh, my emails are clean, I always check the details proper from any Bank.

The only thing I managed to scour from the internet is their own website announcement:
https://www.pbebank.com/Announcement.aspx

Only Chinese news agency reported on the announcement, so I guess we English news consuming customers can go die lo.
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Ambank is going to do the same also. No Android 10+ cannot use app.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:34 AM)
just check pbe reli android 10. mae only 9.
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Sooner or later other banks will folo one.
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 25 2023, 08:37 AM)
All these problems apply only to the app, right? If you try and access using desktop, how?
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Nowadays app is like the key to your deposit, without the key you cannot do anything with your money except to go find an ATM kiosk and do transfer from there. And since all banks are doing the same thing, now you have to treat your phone as a very important device to access your money. Losing it is very bad for you. And you need to keep it working such as getting new update or buying new phone from time to time.


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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:08 AM)
Hello,

Any Public Banker IT staff here?

Can tell me why you guys decided to design the app like this?

I woke up this morning to my Pbe App needing an update, and the Playstore telling me that the app is no longer compatible with my phone.

How am I suppose to do anything with Public Bank now when EVERYTHING on Public Bank needs Pbesecuresign?
Can't move money out of the account to another bank without the app that I can't even reinstall on in Playstore, it is no longer an option.

ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif

P/S: Using Huawei Nova 3i, guess I need to withdraw Cash now like some uncivilized barbarian.
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Sometimes bank does thing for your own good, your phone is so old that it lack of alot of security patch which will open for vulnerabilities… in the end when you lost money, you will blame the bank not ownself ..

Huawei Nova model now at generation 10, your phone is 7 years old …
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 25 2023, 08:37 AM)
All these problems apply only to the app, right? If you try and access using desktop, how?
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still need to use phone for the securesign for transactions
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:48 AM)
Sometimes bank does thing for your own good, your phone is so old that it lack of alot of security patch which will open for vulnerabilities… in the end when you lost money, you will blame the bank not ownself ..

Huawei Nova model now at generation 10, your phone is 7 years old …
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My problem is not the requirement to update, my problem is that no proper communication between bank and customer.

I know my phone is old, but don't lock me out without properly informing me that you are going to change the locks.

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post Jun 25 2023, 08:56 AM

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Crazy world we're living where banking security responsibility is passed to the phone and user while bank wash hand.
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I wish they would start using passkeys or TOTP via third party apps like Google Authenticator. Each bank has their own app wadepak.
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QUOTE(nuvi @ Jun 25 2023, 08:56 AM)
Crazy world we're living where banking security responsibility is passed to the phone and user while bank wash hand.
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I don't see wat is the problem
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Jun 25 2023, 08:46 AM)
Sooner or later other banks will folo one.
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any current cheap xiaomi phone also got 10 already i think. Tat why ccp so rich now.
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Believe it or not PBB actually realise that many account holders got the same issue huashit or samseng old phones (from 2018 or older) still stuck at android 9

That's why PBB give alternative for FREE: a physical token device that resemble a mini calculator you can get for free from PBB. Of course you may need to get it during lunch hour or take leave to go branch for that


If you don't want the hassle of getting to the branch, then no choice get a new phone only can use app

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:45 AM)
Bruh, my emails are clean, I always check the details proper from any Bank.

The only thing I managed to scour from the internet is their own website announcement:
https://www.pbebank.com/Announcement.aspx

Only Chinese news agency reported on the announcement, so I guess we English news consuming customers can go die lo.
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:17 AM)
Android Version 9.

No update that I can find to 10; my phone is old I know, but no warning whatsoever from Public Bank is what triggered me.
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No warning? PBB send out early notice in app and email. Either you rarely use the app or never check email or just blind.

For this kind of stupid user better get the free token, no need to worry for a long time.

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QUOTE(Raexim @ Jun 25 2023, 09:05 AM)
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Aside from the last one that I could have missed, the first 4 topics didn't have ANDROID 9 IS NO LONGER supported as the contents. That bottom grey area is not properly conveyed.
It just says the bank is using Securesign which I am already using.
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 25 2023, 09:12 AM)
No warning? PBB send out early notice in app and email. Either you rarely use the app or never check email or just blind.

For this kind of stupid user better get the free token, no need to worry for a long time.
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Yes I did receive notification to use Pbe Securesign, as I have been using it for many years.
But I have never received a notice about Android 9.0 not being supported, as per my post above, those pictures are not specifying Android 9 being locked out.
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 09:13 AM)
Aside from the last one that I could have missed, the first 4 topics didn't have ANDROID 9 IS NO LONGER supported as the contents. That bottom grey area is not properly conveyed.
It just says the bank is using Securesign which I am already using.
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No need to justify anything else. Just say salah email, salah bank, salah newspaper, salah DAP, salah PMX, salah Shamsiah, salah grey colour, but not salah me for not reading email properly.
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QUOTE(nuvi @ Jun 25 2023, 08:56 AM)
Crazy world we're living where banking security responsibility is passed to the phone and user while bank wash hand.
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So ur house security not ur problem but ur neighbour and police?
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QUOTE(Raexim @ Jun 25 2023, 09:22 AM)
No need to justify anything else. Just say salah email, salah bank, salah newspaper, salah DAP, salah PMX, salah Shamsiah, salah grey colour, but not salah me for not reading email properly.
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Sure, blame the many customers that are facing this issue, ownself PR fail, gaslight customer for being stupid yeah?
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:08 AM)
Hello,

Any Public Banker IT staff here?

P/S: Using Huawei Nova 3i, guess I need to withdraw Cash now like some uncivilized barbarian.
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they need to comply to bnm new rules especially the sms thing and new apps dont support older androids. or perhaps your droid is rooted? else just upgrade ler. can get newer used phones for rm400.
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 09:15 AM)
Yes I did receive notification to use Pbe Securesign, as I have been using it for many years.
But I have never received a notice about Android 9.0 not being supported, as per my post above, those pictures are not specifying Android 9 being locked out.
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I suggest you use the free token since you really don't know how to read email or in app notification.

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 09:28 AM)
Sure, blame the many customers that are facing this issue, ownself PR fail, gaslight customer for being stupid yeah?
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Jun 25 2023, 08:45 AM)
Bruh, my emails are clean, I always check the details proper from any Bank.

The only thing I managed to scour from the internet is their own website announcement:
https://www.pbebank.com/Announcement.aspx

Only Chinese news agency reported on the announcement, so I guess we English news consuming customers can go die lo.
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Nuff said.

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Change phone je or change bank

Not going to cost much compared to losing money to hacker or scammer due to outdated poor security phone
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QUOTE(lahart @ Jun 25 2023, 09:27 AM)
So ur house security not ur problem but ur neighbour and police?
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More like if you house(the bank) security was breached immediately blame it's your neighbor or the police were the culprits.

Did you ever consider the house occupants within among one of your family members were suspects?
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QUOTE(la bella @ Jun 25 2023, 09:34 AM)
Change phone je or change bank

Not going to cost much compared to losing money to hacker or scammer due to outdated poor security phone
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If I'm a long time customer and old, I might consider change bank and move my funds just as investors losing trust in this country moving out all their FDIs.

PB is not the only bank in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Raexim @ Jun 25 2023, 09:05 AM)
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Almost all the notices emphasized on the ending the SMS based OTP and making the switch to SecureSign. The Android version warning was put on fine print below you expect elderly citizens to have sharp eye and read every sentences from top to bottom?

Also I did mentioned before if you're going to make drastic changes and push for update on Google Play Store, why can't you just maintain the usability of the old apps for a time for the transition? Why immediately disable the old version and block the update for older Android at the Play Store? You say cooling period for transactions but no cooling period on Android apps? At least when the update is pushed users will find out their old Android can no longer support the new app but for emergency reasons still able to use the old version of the apps for SecureSign for some time without being blocked over the weekend or await collection from the bank branches counters.


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post Jun 25 2023, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 25 2023, 09:35 AM)
More like if you house(the bank) security was breached immediately blame it's your neighbor or the police were the culprits.

Did you ever consider the house occupants within among one of your family members were suspects?
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It is more like ensuring that the key holder is not cloning the key and give it out to everyone by making it very hard to do so and that your zip lock is good enough to not have anyone siphons your key out.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:47 AM

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just go change new phone

new phone just cost m400 for innfinix or something

ur Huawei already 5 year in service, it's about time
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 25 2023, 09:42 AM)
Almost all the notices emphasized on the ending the SMS based OTP and making the switch to SecureSign. The Android version warning was put on fine print below you expect elderly citizens to have sharp eye and read every sentences from top to bottom?

Also I did mentioned before if you're going to make drastic changes and push for update on Google Play Store, why can't you just maintain the usability of the old apps for a time for the transition? Why immediately disable the old version and block the update for older Android at the Play Store? You say cooling period for transactions but no cooling period on Android apps? At least when the update is pushed users will find out their old Android can no longer support the new app but for emergency reasons still able to use the old version of the apps for SecureSign for some time without being blocked over the weekend or await collection from the bank branches counters.
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They have it for MONTHS. Read it the first email is from JANUARY.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 25 2023, 09:42 AM)
Almost all the notices emphasized on the ending the SMS based OTP and making the switch to SecureSign. The Android version warning was put on fine print below you expect elderly citizens to have sharp eye and read every sentences from top to bottom?

Also I did mentioned before if you're going to make drastic changes and push for update on Google Play Store, why can't you just maintain the usability of the old apps for a time for the transition? Why immediately disable the old version and block the update for older Android at the Play Store? You say cooling period for transactions but no cooling period on Android apps? At least when the update is pushed users will find out their old Android can no longer support the new app but for emergency reasons still able to use the old version of the apps for SecureSign for some time without being blocked over the weekend or await collection from the bank branches counters.
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Lol! ppl show u the bank notify since long ago then pong peng pong peng tak puas hati still .. aiyoyo go switch to another bank la
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:50 AM

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get the token

also shit app
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:07 AM

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k standard is ipong 15
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Jun 25 2023, 09:50 AM)
get the token

also shit app
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When uncles and aunties start zerg rushing to their counters tomorrow, they must ensure that they have enough stock of token generators at hand. Have their directors and management prepared for it?
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post Jun 25 2023, 10:09 AM

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Aiyo shit, I close this thread better. Everyone go to @petpenyubobo thread to argue.

Disclaimer: I am not not penyu dupe

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