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 Any Poorfag On Old Phone Locked Out Frm Bank Apps?, Me Still on Android 8/9 No More Updates

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post Jun 24 2023, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Yenactiet @ Jun 24 2023, 07:27 PM)
lmao, not sure you're being delusional or what, almost every neighbouring country is talking about how vulnerable SMS OTP is and how online banking fraud is getting concerning right now

and this push notification is not even a new thing, MBB has already introduced it like 3 years ago, it's just other banks refusing to make the changes until the very last minute
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Funny that the M2U app still works with my older version of Android. icon_idea.gif

This one along with HLB's Connect.
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post Jun 24 2023, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(13th @ Jun 24 2023, 07:28 PM)
actually BNM gives out the detail in 2019/2020 to bank. so bank had 3 years to study/implement it. source, trust me bro
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Funny again that this is pushed to a poor 3rd world country first to force its less educated citizens to change phones out of planned obsolescence instead of developed countries.

If I'm MACC start opening up questions on this developer who introduced this idea to BNM and Malaysian banks.
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post Jun 24 2023, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 24 2023, 07:34 PM)
You have many Malaysians defending those banks instead.  laugh.gif  doh.gif
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I'm sure at this time also the bank directors and management are now bombarding the app developer to solve this problem immediately even at night on weekends. The bank customer service must be overwhelmed by calls from uncles and aunties trying to find a way besides using SMS TACS/secure transaction OTPs which their phones were locked out. laugh.gif

Come Monday a long queue is expected at their branches for the token generators. If they run out of stock then what? GG...
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post Jun 24 2023, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Jun 24 2023, 07:12 PM)
If you can't afford phone with Android 10 and above, the bank knows you are just little fish and matters very little to them.
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Sure.. laugh.gif

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post Jun 24 2023, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Jun 24 2023, 08:04 PM)
if u use ur browser in the phone and select desktop site to browser, can you open banking site ?
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Of course you can just like you would on a PC using the web browser to login. But here's the problem, with SMS TACs phased out the only way to receive the SECURE confirmation for your transaction is through the app.

How are you going to authorize the transaction and complete it when the app already blocked on your old Android phone refuses to even launch/open and you can't even update it?
Bank branches only open on weekdays to apply for the token generators.

This is how I came across trying to pay my bills over the weekend. No way to complete the transaction.

If emergency situation you need to make payment for deposit to check in private medical facility and locked out how? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 24 2023, 08:44 PM)
RHB KLCC open on Sat. The one and only.
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My bank is not RHB unfortunately. sad.gif
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post Jun 24 2023, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jun 24 2023, 09:44 PM)
How old are u? 70s or 80s? So boomer issue

You're creating an issue out of nothing.

Use private medical facility, want to use bank transfer? Credit card don't have?

Not all banks have requirement for Android to be above android 10. If cannot use bank A, just use bank B la. Since u don't want to upgrade your phone.

If want to use phone for very long time, use iPhone. Don't use android.

Bnm tightened security, also wanna complaint.

Yes banks are not open on weekend, go weekday cannot? Aiyo
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Out of nothing? All my bill payment cannot transact this weekend and I've to wait till next working day to go collect the token generator when free.

Not even the bank will DARE answer a long time and loyal customer for over 30 years like that.

If they dare tell they customers to fly kite like that many will move their accounts out to other banks after this.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 24 2023, 08:47 PM)
Wise only requires Android 5. So Wise is not secure?
Tried it on my super old Redmi. It's too slow. From Android 6 to 13.
Based on this logic, China citizens must be mostly using Android 13 now.
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Seriously what are transaction limits for then when customers specifically set them for different types of transactions? Also recently the implemented cooling off period for large transactions.
If there's a limit already set for risky accounts with high amounts of money, combined with a cooling off period why can't the bank directly call up the account owner to ask for verification and implement multi level authentication to hardened the security?

I am very certain there's something more to this.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 25 2023, 09:29 AM)
Maybe you are blind or ignorant or last minute person. I received multiple reminder via email and in app.

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This SecureSign already existed for sometime and worked for older versions of the app so it's no excuse to disable it by surprising your users.

I've suggested earlier that you can make a Lite version of the app with a soft based token generator but with all the important risky functions of the full app disabled. That way people can still access the token/SecureSign feature while making transactions over the web browser logging into the site.

The switch from SMS TACs to SecureSign was fine but not the sudden forcing of users to adopt Android 10 above.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:44 AM)
Use browser apa susah

When your bank acc kena hack because of Android security issues, then you blame who?

Blame the bank, or blame Huawei for not providing security updates until today?
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The past scams there were cases where despite transaction limit were set millions were still able to be transferred out without proper authentication/verification. Has that anything to do with Android OS?
Pointing fingers and blaming others is what they're doing. This is not good to the bank's reputation for their customers.

When their customers lose trust in them they'll be pulling out their funds soon from the bank. Buying a new phone is secondary because once trust is breached we the customers will know there will always be excuses later again.


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post Jun 25 2023, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(lahart @ Jun 25 2023, 09:47 AM)
Blame
Lge
Dap
Cina babi
Pmx
Bank
Janji not self
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Seriously after Teh Hong Piow departure, the bank is really going down with whoever that is taking over.
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 25 2023, 09:51 AM)
Did you see the date on that email? Surprised? You kidding me?
I see who exactly is the problem now, sorry but it is totally on you and bank offer free token and free replacement of broken token too. Don't be an ignorant.
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You can blame your customers all you want, later when they move all their funds out from your bank you don't cry mader fader. Are you going to send your bank's reputation down the sewer?
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post Jun 25 2023, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 25 2023, 09:13 AM)
Yeah I kinda agree with TS. Maybe the app should trigger a notification when it detects that the phone android version is already the minimum supported version.

"hi loserguy, this is the minimum supported version of android liao. Time to make muka Kecian and see if your kids will buy you a new phone."
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Kids buying a new phone is fine but the hassle of migrating and reinstalling all the previous apps into the news phone securely...do you think your kids will have the time to patiently do that for you when they all have their families on their own and busy work schedules? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(GTA5 @ Jun 25 2023, 09:56 AM)
TS,

You only have 2 options

-Shift out to other banks. But who knows in the future the other banks might also implement the same thing? Back to square one.

-Get a new phone. Your Nova 3i is a 2018 model. A 5 years old phone. In tech terms, that's very long.
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Won't likely those other banks who did not made this mistake will already know this underlying issue and will avoid it in future.

Also I'm beginning to lose trust in a bank where they are now starting to blame their customers for their own wrongdoings without even a single apology. That speaks a lot for their reputation. Never like PB in the first place they have very weak security and unprofessional.

Their bank counters when you doing transaction with the teller, always got weird customers who come and barge in trying to interrupt you or peek at your receipts. Could be crooks or scammers doing such things. Unlike other banks they have separate cubicles with partitions.

Not a very professional bank if you ask me.
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QUOTE(tvcat @ Jun 25 2023, 09:58 AM)
Bro can you read??? PBB SENT OUT MULTIPLE EMAIL + IN APP NOTIFICATION + WEBSITE. FOR EMAIL IT IS AS EARLY AS FEB 2023, FOUR FUCKING MONTHS BRO!

I'm talking to a donkey it seem lol
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If you're a spokesperson for PB, sorry to tell you that your efforts are sending your employers reputation down the sewers.

Instead of apologizing for the inconvenience you're accusing your customers who feed you that it's their mistake for not reading carefully what the notices you posted and it's not your fault that caused their inconveniences/hardships.

So much for a bank's reputation.
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QUOTE(Oishiteru @ Jun 25 2023, 10:02 AM)
Plz switch bank, they will say kthxbai to u , u tink customer wit juta juta in the bank so poorfag using outdated phone ka?
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Yes for being a customer over 30years+ and counting I will.

The bank must be proud to have a exemplary PR exec like you.
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QUOTE(Oishiteru @ Jun 25 2023, 10:11 AM)
Nobody cares la. Juz switch & open thread next .. i suppork u

Bising betul
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If I were PB I would probably consider demanding a detailed query on the app developer which is handling their app or even consider terminating their service.

Worst in place of their customer service the app developer even dared to do damage PR for them by telling off their customers and insult them on public space.

Also this needs to open a serious query on BNM by the banks on their decision to introduce such requirements without proper auditing and proper measures before setting such rules.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 25 2023, 11:31 AM)
Banks refuse to spend any money on Malaysian customers and instead get the Malaysian customer to spend at least few hundred MYR to get new phone. Every couple of years.

And these banks suddenly became more understanding if they are in different country, becos they suddenly seem to get it that in other countries, many people are using old phones. So they order their developer to make a compatible app.

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All the other major banks like Tiger Bank, Sotong Bank, Affin Bank, MBSB, HLB and even OCBC Malaysia all still available and usable on poorfag old Android phone.

PB got played out by the gang by being the 1st black sheep?
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QUOTE(hoilok @ Jun 25 2023, 11:43 AM)
Is security measure just like windows patches , we no longer in Sony or Nokia phone era
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Just like some had mentioned, you can do security patches without needing to force people to upgrade the OS entirely.

Newer doesn't always suggest better. US Military always use a security hardened older version of Windows XP OS for close to 15 years until 2014!






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