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 [AMA] I immigrated to Australia early 2022, Ask me anything!

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sawannaibaan
post Jun 12 2023, 11:33 PM

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put in my application couple months ago and received the ITA last week, lets see how it goes.. tongue.gif
moving there mainly for my kid too.

my biggest concern is securing a job there,I did a quick search in linkedin, SEEK etc, and there seems to be plenty of opening for my roles at the place I intend to move to.
but I am not sure how well received my exp would be over there. My job exp is mostly in SG and some in MY, all are MNCs.
Qualification wise, pretty much tick all the boxes, Aus degree and prof qualification from Aus and UK, all equally recognized.

how open are employers over there in hiring fresh migrants with just overseas exp? assuming you have full working rights.

did you engage/approached recruiters/recruitment firms (e.g Micheal page etc) in your job search?

how's the work culture/colleagues over there? are they inclusive and accepting of people from different backgrounds etc?

I have set aside maybe around 60-70K AUD in cash for the initial relocation phase, where i will be seeking jobs, accommodation etc etc.
I plan to head over there by myself first and set up everything before bringing over the wife and kid.
Do you think that is enough?

This post has been edited by sawannaibaan: Jun 12 2023, 11:38 PM
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post Jun 12 2023, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 12 2023, 11:18 PM)
Yes I agree, but I was comparing more with SG hdb, is there anything similar in OZ?
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No, as it doesn’t make sense to establish a HDB-equivalent body when there’s no shortage of land. In SG you can’t just up and move further away from the CBD for cheaper houses. There’s literally no land. Yes, affordability is an issue in a Sydney and Melbourne, as with any major cities, but like KL, their urban sprawl will continue to grow as there’s ample space to do so. There’s also the option of moving to other major cities like Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide.


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QUOTE(sawannaibaan @ Jun 12 2023, 11:33 PM)
put in my application couple months ago and received the ITA last week, lets see how it goes.. tongue.gif
moving there mainly for my kid too.

my biggest concern is securing a job there,I did a quick search in linkedin, SEEK etc, and there seems to be plenty of opening for my roles at the place I intend to move to.
but I am not sure how well received my exp would be over there. My job exp is mostly in SG and some in MY, all are MNCs.
Qualification wise, pretty much tick all the boxes, Aus degree and prof qualification from Aus and UK, all equally recognized.

how open are employers over there in hiring fresh migrants with just overseas exp? assuming you have full working rights.

did you engage/approached recruiters/recruitment firms (e.g Micheal page etc) in your job search?

how's the work culture/colleagues over there? are they inclusive and accepting of people from different backgrounds etc?

I have set aside maybe around 60-70K AUD in cash for the initial relocation phase, where i will be seeking jobs, accommodation etc etc.
I plan to head over there by myself first and set up everything before bringing over the wife and kid.
Do you think that is enough?
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Securing a job is understandable every migrant’s biggest concern - it’s the biggest uncertainty you have no real control of. I can’t speak for your industry, but I’ve not had a single interview where the hiring panel did not recognise my overseas experience and neither did my wife. As long as you have an Australian number and address on your CV and indicate you’re available immediately, you should be able to find something fairly quickly.

Mining seems to be grabbing anyone they can get their hands on and despite not from a mining background, we managed to secure offers from them, which we eventually turned down in favour for offers from our respective industries. And these are not entry-level roles as well. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen comments FB groups and other forum posts stating Australian employers only recognise local experience, but this hasn’t been the case for us.

Yes I did initially reach out to a couple of recruiters from Brunel, NES Fircroft, Airswift, etc, but I had no luck in securing interviews through them, but that’s probably my fault as I was incredibly picky. I had a lot more luck with permanent, direct-hire roles.

Work culture is pretty good here. Walk into any office and it’s all pretty much a melting pot of cultures, and there’s almost always at least 1 Malaysian. That being said, I do have a friend who who works for a small family-owned business and he feels he does get discriminated against by one or two blue collar staff on the shop floor, but it’s not the norm here.

60k-70k should be more than enough, especially if you’re not bringing your family along immediately.
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post Jun 13 2023, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 11:36 PM)
No, as it doesn’t make sense to establish a HDB-equivalent body when there’s no shortage of land. In SG you can’t just up and move further away from the CBD for cheaper houses. There’s literally no land. Yes, affordability is an issue in a Sydney and Melbourne, as with any major cities, but like KL, their urban sprawl will continue to grow as there’s ample space to do so. There’s also the option of moving to other major cities like Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide.
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So there is no subsidised housing (flats/landed) for the poor in Oz, unlike MY and SG? As far as I know housing is also not cheap in other major cities like Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide.
To me SG has more pluses than OZ except work-life balance, SG is a good stepping stone to built one's qualification(education) n accumulate wealth for retirement in cheaper countries at old age. AUD is only slightly stronger than MYR but depreciated a lot if compare with SGD. Weather wise MY n SG is more livable than South OZ for the whole year. I never like the 40C summer there.
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post Jun 13 2023, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(laksamana @ Jun 12 2023, 09:14 PM)
Is it possible to retire in Australia with about AUD 100k in passive income (tax-free in perpetuity) ? Simple lifestyle ..
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There's always tax on passive income unless your income is below the tax bracket. Not sure how much.

One alternative is follow how the rich in Australia avoid taxes legally by going for trust via Singapore. There's a documentary on it. It's expose in pandora papers.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 13 2023, 05:49 AM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 13 2023, 12:19 AM)
So there is no subsidised housing (flats/landed) for the poor in Oz, unlike MY and SG? As far as I know housing is also not cheap in other major cities like Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide.
To me SG has more pluses than OZ except work-life balance, SG is a good stepping stone to built one's qualification(education) n accumulate wealth for retirement  in cheaper countries at old age. AUD is only slightly stronger than MYR but depreciated a lot if compare with SGD. Weather wise MY n SG is more livable than South OZ for the whole year. I never like the 40C summer there.
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I’m not sure where you’re going with this but it seems you’re digressing very far out of topic every turn 😅

To put it simply, there are public housing and assistance for the poor and HDB absolutely isn’t for the poor. I don’t have any further details as I have never needed housing assistance. If a median house price of $500k to $600k (for Adelaide/Perth) against a median income of $60k+ isn’t affordable, I don’t know what is.

Not going to turn this into AU vs SG. I respect your personal opinion but mine’s the complete opposite. The 40degC days here never felt hotter than SG/MY due to the low humidity and it’s great not having drenched in sweat. Being able to buy a house with a backyard for my kids to play in is a major plus point for me.

It’s not perfect, but for everything I value and look for in life, Australia (and even Malaysia) is much better which is why SG has never been in my consideration. It was always either AU or MY for me.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 13 2023, 12:19 AM)
So there is no subsidised housing (flats/landed) for the poor in Oz, unlike MY and SG? As far as I know housing is also not cheap in other major cities like Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide.
To me SG has more pluses than OZ except work-life balance, SG is a good stepping stone to built one's qualification(education) n accumulate wealth for retirement  in cheaper countries at old age. AUD is only slightly stronger than MYR but depreciated a lot if compare with SGD. Weather wise MY n SG is more livable than South OZ for the whole year. I never like the 40C summer there.
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If you want to live in stressful environment, without work life balance and force your kid to be super kiasu, live in shoebox house without a backyard or front garden by all means choose SG. I never liked the kiasu attitude of Singaporean and how their kids have no life balance. Tuition from after school until late at night. (My friend words not mine, he got ASEAN scholarship and came back to Malaysia and said he was approached by multiple of his friend parents to teach their kids how to to live life and score As without studying like crazy. He's a sports guy and consistently get As)

Anyway this is a Australia migration Q&A thread. Not a Singapore thread.
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post Jun 13 2023, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 13 2023, 12:19 AM)
So there is no subsidised housing (flats/landed) for the poor in Oz, unlike MY and SG? As far as I know housing is also not cheap in other major cities like Brisbane, Perth or Adelaide.
To me SG has more pluses than OZ except work-life balance, SG is a good stepping stone to built one's qualification(education) n accumulate wealth for retirement  in cheaper countries at old age. AUD is only slightly stronger than MYR but depreciated a lot if compare with SGD. Weather wise MY n SG is more livable than South OZ for the whole year. I never like the 40C summer there.
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not everything is about money

qualify of life, work life balance, job satisfaction


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post Jun 13 2023, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Jun 13 2023, 08:36 AM)
not everything is about money

qualify of life, work life balance, job satisfaction
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Exactly. If money is everything I wouldn't have quit my job. If I had stayed with my companh,.sooner or later I am going to get high blood pressure at young age. No thank you.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 13 2023, 08:43 AM
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post Jun 13 2023, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 07:41 PM)
I wouldn’t say successful, rather my life has stabilised following the big move.

Oil and gas industry - engineering (pick one - process/mechanical/structural/electrical/controls)
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no wonder.

Oil and Gas pretty big in Australia, I know a few personally migrated with OnG experience.

Its all about the fit between the prospector and what Australia is looking for.

if we happen to be at the wrong place and wrong time, not having matched skillset, migration could become a disaster.

i also known several migrants who failed, they went to australia couldn't find a job for 2 years, burnt their savings and have to return secretly, their tails between their legs.

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 09:47 PM)
It seems that our experience here is quite different. Happy to hear your gripes with the education system here.

I live in a good high school zone and so far the people I know who’ve sent their kids there and their alumni have nothing but praise. Curriculum isn’t just academic centric as well, but despite it’s flaws, it’s exactly what I’m looking for - and that’s as good as it gets without going private. Perhaps my expectations were set at the right level, wouldn’t you agree?
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You’ll understand when your kid starts primary school smile.gif

Learning is different, there’s more exposure, more hands on, more public speaking which is great, lots of time to spend on extra curricular activities but sacrificing a lot on the basic stuff like hand writing, sentence structures, etc … and because of that, I heard a lot struggle when then move onto high school, those who pushed a bit at home do fairly well, this who go with the flow don’t…
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post Jun 13 2023, 10:24 AM

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Question i have in my mind. Once i received the AUS VISA grant (Subclass 189 or 190, or 491) , do you suggest i move there early before securing a job first? Or apply AUS job when i'm still in Malaysia before i go there? Any suggestion?
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post Jun 13 2023, 10:34 AM

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I think you are very helpful. Thank you,...

I have assets in Msia, Singapore and in a few other countries. My children are PRs in Australia. How am I able to transfer my assets to them without attracting ATO taxes ?
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QUOTE(sawannaibaan @ Jun 13 2023, 12:33 AM)
put in my application couple months ago and received the ITA last week, lets see how it goes.. tongue.gif
moving there mainly for my kid too.

my biggest concern is securing a job there,I did a quick search in linkedin, SEEK etc, and there seems to be plenty of opening for my roles at the place I intend to move to.
but I am not sure how well received my exp would be over there. My job exp is mostly in SG and some in MY, all are MNCs.
Qualification wise, pretty much tick all the boxes, Aus degree and prof qualification from Aus and UK, all equally recognized.

how open are employers over there in hiring fresh migrants with just overseas exp? assuming you have full working rights.

did you engage/approached recruiters/recruitment firms (e.g Micheal page etc) in your job search?

how's the work culture/colleagues over there? are they inclusive and accepting of people from different backgrounds etc?

I have set aside maybe around 60-70K AUD in cash for the initial relocation phase, where i will be seeking jobs, accommodation etc etc.
I plan to head over there by myself first and set up everything before bringing over the wife and kid.
Do you think that is enough?
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Sounds like a well thought plan.

Bravo 👍🏼💪🏼💪🏼
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post Jun 13 2023, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 13 2023, 02:08 AM)
There's always tax on passive income unless your income is below the tax bracket. Not sure how much.

One alternative is follow how the rich in Australia avoid taxes legally by going for trust via Singapore. There's a documentary on it. It's expose in pandora papers.
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There is no such thing abt avoiding taxes via trust in SG. Everything must be declared under the 'Foreign Income' section of the ATO's MyGov system or via their tax agents.


If you look at the many statements in many banks in SG, they're talking abt not offering many instruments to AUst residents. This reason for this is simple - the taxation procedures too follow for these residents is tedious.

But I do admit,... there was one doctor here once who claimed he managed to circumvent the ATO, IN A LEGAL WAY. Don't know whether he was a bigmouth or what (he was totally proud abt his achievements in everything, from the funds in his bank acct to his results in IELTS biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ),... but he has since disappeared from this forum after someone warned him abt something.

If he is still around, we could learn from him and gauge what he says,...
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post Jun 13 2023, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 08:50 PM)
Despite our income, good international schools were out of our reach. We’re talking about 6 figures per child per year, it’s something we would struggle with even with one child.

Also, if I lose my job, it’ll be difficult for me to even touch 60-70% of what I was earning even with if I joined our closest competitor. What am I going to do then? Transferring them to local schools would pretty much ruin them. Australia offers much better income stability for me.

I also never liked the rote learning techniques in our local schools. Have you ever noticed how the majority of our students can’t articulate themselves well right out of school? Our blue collar workforce struggles to put pen to paper and in my industry, we have to plop the “engineer” designation for what were traditionally blue collar roles just to have engineers become paper-pushers. What if my kids want to become something other than a lawyer, doctor or engineer and want to earn a living wage? Options are far and few between in Malaysia.

Having gone on a primary school tour here recently, their education system is much better than expected it further reinforced our decision to move.
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Yes bro,... my daughter wants to become a dancer - performing artist. I sent her to Australia at a young age,... she has lots of opportunities there now,.. AND she is soon, moving to Vancouver to further develop her career in Canada and in The USA.

I can see the your points clearly here, and am agreeable with all you wrote in the above.

... because my boy chose a career in Eng'g,... he managed to enter the top uni with an ATAR of 91. The subjects he took were Chem, Physics, Specialist Maths, 'another simpler' Maths (can't remember the name) and English. These are hard subjects. Some scored 99 in their ATAR,.. but err,... need to look at the subjects they took. Not putting anyone down...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 12 2023, 08:59 PM)
You are living in which zone? I understand Australia have 7 zones and 1 being the city and 7 being the most rural.

I think Malaysia can FIRE faster as we have the advantage of no tax on overseas income.

Btw how racist are Australian if you are not from Australian uni and if you are Chinese?
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This is if you are able to earn overseas income. Not many Masians are able to do this,... And you continue to pray hard that our Lembaga Hasil Dlm Negeri will never be able to find employees smart enough to impose and enforce international taxation effectively.

Having travelled vastly and invested in many parts of the world,... I think i'd always stay as a Msian Tax Resident.
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Okay bros,... I've written enough,...

I'm going to do something adventurous very soon,... contributing medical supplies and services to a war zone.... Since I have nothing better to do in life.

If you don't see me writing here anymore after tonight,... means I did not make it back,........ biggrin.gif

Wishing all bros here Good Luck in their Investing Career,... and hoping what I have contributed here these few years has helped yuo guys.

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 13 2023, 10:49 AM)
There is no such thing abt avoiding taxes via trust in SG. Everything must be declared under the 'Foreign Income' section of the ATO's MyGov system or via their tax agents.
If you look at the many statements in many banks in SG, they're talking abt not offering many instruments to AUst residents. This reason for this is simple - the taxation procedures too follow for these residents is tedious.

But I do admit,... there was one doctor here once who claimed he managed to circumvent the ATO, IN A LEGAL WAY. Don't know whether he was a bigmouth or what (he was totally proud abt his achievements in everything, from the funds in his bank acct to his results in IELTS  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif ),... but he has since disappeared from this forum after someone warned him abt something.

If he is still around, we could learn from him and gauge what he says,...
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Don't know. Saw it on a documentary on Pandora papers. Let me get the YouTube link. The office in question is still operational in Singapore. Last time I google them. tongue.gif
https://youtu.be/4kPLpZN3I3A

Watch if you have time. Might learn a thing or two.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 13 2023, 11:14 AM
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