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 [AMA] I immigrated to Australia early 2022, Ask me anything!

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Ramjade
post Jun 12 2023, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 01:17 PM)
Foreign residents are subjected to more tax. For foreign workers, you're taxed 32.5% for everything you earn up to $120k. For permanent residents, the first $18.2k are not subjected to tax, while between $18.2k and $45k, the tax rate is 19%. All income earned above $45k are taxed the same rate regardless if you're a foreigner or PR.

You can set up your own super fund where you manage your own super. It's called SMSF, or self-managed super fund. If you can get better performance and are happy to spend your own time on it, why not?
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Even KWSP which you don't have access to? The taxes are what make me hesitant to move there. Very high tax Vs Malaysia tax. Not to mention all my overseas investment in Malsysia are tax free.

This is just one aspect. All the acocunting and book keeping. If it's just open brokerage and invest yourself without need for keeping record, don't mind it.
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post Jun 12 2023, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 11 2023, 11:25 AM)
Hi All,

I’ve been browsing Lowyat Forum on and off for the past decade or so and I’ve seen a lot of threads every now and then that centres around the topic of moving to Australia. There’s a lot of good information on here, but there’s also an equal amount of misconceptions about living and working in the land down under.

One saying that I’ve come across a lot which stands true is that the grass is not always greener on the other side, and this is something that I’ve always kept at the back of my mind when I was planning the big move. I’ve seen many migrants struggling as they did not deliberate enough when making the decision to uproot their established lives in Malaysia to give what they perceive as the land of opportunity a go.

I have a bit of time to spare over the next week, so I’d be happy to shed light on and provide some first-hand insights into moving, living and working in Australia. Some context about myself to kick start the AMA:

- I obtained my Australian permanent resident visa prior to the COVID pandemic
- I moved early 2022 at the tail-end of COVID border restrictions
- I am English-educated while my wife is Chinese-educated
- My wife and I are in our early 30s
- We are both currently working in our respective industries, either at the same level or higher that the jobs we had prior to leaving Malaysia
- We had a combined monthly salary of approximately RM35k per month in Malaysia with our house and cars paid off, which made the decision to move even more difficult

Feel free to ask me anything and I will endeavour to provide a candid answer based on my personal experience.  smile.gif
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So u successful already ?

found job as what ?

you in which industry? IT? accounting?
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post Jun 12 2023, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 12 2023, 02:36 PM)
So u successful already ?

found job as what ?

you in which industry? IT? accounting?
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If you take your time and read though he already mentioned engineering.
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post Jun 12 2023, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 12 2023, 01:34 PM)
Even KWSP which you don't have access to? The taxes are what make me hesitant to move there. Very high tax Vs Malaysia tax. Not to mention all my overseas investment in Malsysia are tax free.

This is just one aspect. All the acocunting and book keeping. If it's just open brokerage and invest yourself without need for keeping record, don't mind it.
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I didn't declare my EPF divided when moving to UK. I even transferred > RM 100k from Malaysia to UK without any major issues. I only got questioned by my UK bank of the source of the money and I said from my employment in Malaysia for 10 years

Not sure if Australia is really so strict on this, or TS just following strictly by the rules. I guess a tax consultant will advise the client to follow 100% of the rules
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post Jun 12 2023, 03:43 PM

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i got a degree in business and marketing, but basic experience with customer relations and etc.

Got hope to start life in AU?

savings not much either, somewhat starting from scrap.

age 29

This post has been edited by waka14: Jun 12 2023, 03:44 PM
KevProp
post Jun 12 2023, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 11:37 AM)
Nope, no longer planning to go back to Malaysia to work, unless I'm paid expat rates. At this point, I'm not really looking for expat roles until my kids are much older.

Reason to move is for the kids - better quality of life. That, and the work life balance is is great.

In terms of numbers, if you don't convert, I'm paid 75% what I was getting back in Malaysia. If I lose my job here in Australia and secure a different role, even with a contractor, I'll only take a very slight hit to my paycheck, no more than 10%. In Malaysia, if I lose my job and join a direct competitor, I'll be lucky to get 60% of what I was paid. Worst still, if I ended up with contractor/consultant, I'll need to take a pay cut exceeding 50%.
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Hi TS, my wife and I are planning for our kids to study and work in OZ. In fact we want them to migrate as well.

The only way that we can think of is the twinning/transfer programmes.

Do you have any comment or advice on this? Any recommendation will be great too.

Thanks in advance

This post has been edited by KevProp: Jun 12 2023, 04:48 PM
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post Jun 12 2023, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 11 2023, 11:25 AM)
Hi All,

I’ve been browsing Lowyat Forum on and off for the past decade or so and I’ve seen a lot of threads every now and then that centres around the topic of moving to Australia. There’s a lot of good information on here, but there’s also an equal amount of misconceptions about living and working in the land down under.

One saying that I’ve come across a lot which stands true is that the grass is not always greener on the other side, and this is something that I’ve always kept at the back of my mind when I was planning the big move. I’ve seen many migrants struggling as they did not deliberate enough when making the decision to uproot their established lives in Malaysia to give what they perceive as the land of opportunity a go.

I have a bit of time to spare over the next week, so I’d be happy to shed light on and provide some first-hand insights into moving, living and working in Australia. Some context about myself to kick start the AMA:

- I obtained my Australian permanent resident visa prior to the COVID pandemic
- I moved early 2022 at the tail-end of COVID border restrictions
- I am English-educated while my wife is Chinese-educated
- My wife and I are in our early 30s
- We are both currently working in our respective industries, either at the same level or higher that the jobs we had prior to leaving Malaysia
- We had a combined monthly salary of approximately RM35k per month in Malaysia with our house and cars paid off, which made the decision to move even more difficult

Feel free to ask me anything and I will endeavour to provide a candid answer based on my personal experience.  smile.gif
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A few questions:
Family and Friends
- How are your parents? Are they still alive? Who is caring for them now?
- Tough leaving friends behind?

Income
- Did you make dollar for dollar after moving?
- By %, you save more in Msia or Australia?

Weather
- I dont like long term winter, how do you find it?

Food
- Are you used to local foods yet?


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post Jun 12 2023, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 12 2023, 02:43 PM)
If you take your time and read though he already mentioned engineering.
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need to know what kind of engineering.

Mechanical? Electrical? transporation? civil ?
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post Jun 12 2023, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 11 2023, 12:09 PM)
IIRC two 9’s one 8.5 and one 8.0.
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damn... your english damn good. You mentioned before that you are an english ed, still, your english command is good !

Part of the reason i couldnt apply for a PR because back then i need band 8 to fulfil the point system. oh well.

still, congrats !
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post Jun 12 2023, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Salary @ Jun 12 2023, 11:20 AM)
I think that's a misconception (which I had as well). You will be taxed upon becoming a tax resident in Australia. The one question my tax accountant asked me was - when did you apply for your Medicare card? Upon making that application, you've shown your intention to stay permanently and is it from that point you become a tax resident as you've started benefiting off their government services.
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I don’t believe things have changed but I might be wrong… you are only deemed a tax resident if you stay in Australia for more than 180 days. And yes that applies to most people who have or is planning to work in Australia
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jun 12 2023, 04:40 PM)
I don’t believe things have changed but I might be wrong… you are only deemed a tax resident if you stay in Australia for more than 180 days. And yes that applies to most people who have or is planning to work in Australia
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You also Australian d ah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 12 2023, 04:03 PM)
A few questions:
Family and Friends
- Tough leaving friends behind?

Income
- Did you make dollar for dollar after moving?
- By %, you save more in Msia or Australia?

Weather
- I dont like long term winter, how do you find it?

Food
- Are you used to local foods yet?
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Your friends are not going to help your kids have a better life. Just leave and make new one over there.

My earn and saved more even after tax.

Not every where got long winter.

Lots of Asian good available there. You can cook yourself too.
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post Jun 12 2023, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 12 2023, 01:34 PM)
Even KWSP which you don't have access to? The taxes are what make me hesitant to move there. Very high tax Vs Malaysia tax. Not to mention all my overseas investment in Malsysia are tax free.

This is just one aspect. All the acocunting and book keeping. If it's just open brokerage and invest yourself without need for keeping record, don't mind it.
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Yep you’re on point there. That’s one of the downsides here unfortunately. Not easy to build wealth at the upper middle class level.
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jun 12 2023, 02:36 PM)
So u successful already ?

found job as what ?

you in which industry? IT? accounting?
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I wouldn’t say successful, rather my life has stabilised following the big move.

Oil and gas industry - engineering (pick one - process/mechanical/structural/electrical/controls)
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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Jun 12 2023, 03:32 PM)
I didn't declare my EPF divided when moving to UK. I even transferred > RM 100k from Malaysia to UK without any major issues. I only got questioned by my UK bank of the source of the money and I said from my employment in Malaysia for 10 years

Not sure if Australia is really so strict on this, or TS just following strictly by the rules. I guess a tax consultant will advise the client to follow 100% of the rules
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My wife and I have a pretty sizeable combined EPF. Unless we’re happy to leave it in Malaysia, I’ve been advised by two separate tax accountants to declare them. A lot of Malaysians do not declare them, but it’s one of the things they look out for if you’re picked for an audit by the Australian Taxation Office.
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QUOTE(waka14 @ Jun 12 2023, 03:43 PM)
i got a degree in business and marketing, but basic experience with customer relations and etc.

Got hope to start life in AU?

savings not much either, somewhat starting from scrap.

age 29
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Without knowing your full work experience, it’s hard to say. Check if you’re eligible for a PR or temporary work visa here:

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list

You’re still young - plenty of opportunities in Malaysia or Australia, but please don’t waste away your career by taking jobs in Australia where there’s no pathway to permanent residency or career progression. A lot of people are lured by unregistered agents to work in farms in Australia, but the conditions are terrible and more likely than not, you’ll head home without much savings,
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Jun 12 2023, 03:48 PM)
Hi TS, my wife and I are planning for our kids to study and work in OZ. In fact we want  them to migrate as well.

The only way that we can think of is the twinning/transfer programmes.

Do you have any comment or advice on this? Any recommendation will be great too.

Thanks in advance
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The cheapest way is to have them do at least two years of their study at an Australian institution - usually the last two years. This will get them 5 additional points when applying for PR.

Also, their course will need to fall under the SOL in the link below to be eligible to apply for the right visa following their graduation.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/worki...occupation-list

Do keep in mind that the SOL does get reviewed on a yearly basis and things may change - what’s on the list now may not necessarily be there when your kids graduate. Courses like nursing and medicine are pretty much a shoe in though.
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What about the fields of aircraft engineering and maintenance ? Is that in demand down under ?
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post Jun 12 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 12 2023, 04:03 PM)
A few questions:
Family and Friends
- How are your parents? Are they still alive? Who is caring for them now?
- Tough leaving friends behind?

Income
- Did you make dollar for dollar after moving?
- By %, you save more in Msia or Australia?

Weather
- I dont like long term winter, how do you find it?

Food
- Are you used to local foods yet?
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Our parents are still healthy and we have siblings as well. None of them are keep to move, but they encourage us to. We do miss hanging out it’s friends though, but I guess the pandemic has sort of desensitised us a little. Also, our kid pretty much takes up all our time, so that helps.

For base salary, if you don’t convert and compare based on numbers alone, my number is sitting at 75% of what I earned in Malaysia, while my wife earns slightly more than what she was getting previously. By %, we’re saving more here if you don’t take into account our mortgage - we were debt free in Malaysia.

Winter in Brisbane is very mild, while other states are further south experience colder winters, but still doesn’t compare to the likes of a Europe or North America. Even for places like Melbourne, sometimes you’ll find that you don’t even need a jacket at noon. Nights are very cold though and can drop to sub-zero temps. I never liked the heat, so it’s a great place for me. My wife hates the cold but she’s enjoying the weather here as it’s much less humid than Malaysia.

You can find food from everywhere here - it truly is a melting pot of cultures and that extends to food as well. Having a large Malaysian population here means there’s plenty of decent Malaysian restaurants (can’t beat Malaysia though). Food has never been an issue for us.
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QUOTE(siew14 @ Jun 12 2023, 04:24 PM)
damn... your english damn good. You mentioned before that you are an english ed, still, your english command is good !

Part of the reason i couldnt apply for a PR because back then i need band 8 to fulfil the point system.  oh well.

still, congrats !
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Haha, you’re too kind. I scored the lowest for writing - I find that I struggle a lot with creative writing especially since I haven’t done any outside of secondary school, so it’s really gone downhill compared to my SPM days.

Sometimes it’s down to luck as well and who assesses your writing and speaking modules. You can always give it another go!

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