Hi guys ,
Im dilemma of this three solar panel choice .

Alpha - 12.6kwh rm38k ( string inverter )
Solanatec - 13.6kwh rm42k ( string inverter )
Pathgreen - 13kwh rm46k ( micro inverter )

Or got any recommendation other than this three company .

For home use . Monthly bill around 700-900 .


Updated 12 june 23 : Thanks bee88 for guidance , now im going for micro inverters from GeenPath . Ill update this thread for results after the installation and so on .


Updated 8th October 23 :

Installation already completed on september 7th . Now is already 1 month after the solar installation .

30 days solar generated = 1440kwh .

My electric bill from RM650 drop to RM25 only .

During this 30 days of testing , i actually increase my electricity usage . I start to turn on my living room aircon 3-5 hours daily .


Pros of installing solar panel :
1) TNB electricity bill is subsidized and have tiers , it is cheaper for the first 300 kwh , and after 300kwh is about RM0.5 per kwh .

With solar , total kwh of the month will minus total solar generated , then only they will calculate according to the tier and bill you . In other words , the solar generated electricity will cover the most expensive tier for you .


2) With the new ICPT implementation, if your electricity monthly usage is above 1500kwh , you will be charged about rm150 extra monthly .

But with solar system , it is almost impossible to reach 1500kwh . As during day time when the solar is generating electricity, it will actually supply to your home electricity before sending the surplus back to the grid .

Example :
Monthly usage 1600kwh , solar generated 1500kwh .

But the meter will show 900kwh , solar generated 800kwh .

Coz the 700kwh is tallies during the day use .


3) You can have the freeeom to utilize air conditioner during hot days . Cause you will know that if it is a hot day , your solar will generate alot of electricity that day . This is a very good balance of temperature in your house , though not very environmentally friendly 😀


Why choose Pathgreen Sdn bhd ( non paid advertisement )

1) They offer micro-inverter at string-inverter price .

2) The price they propose is available for installment for up to 60 months .

3) They offer risk-shared plan after 5 years , which is not many solar company will offer . Quote from them " they are confident that their solar system will still perform well even after 5 years , hence they willing to share risk with buyer , they will charge 10% of your total solar generated every month and will cover every maintenance and repair work if needed "

His contact : Pathgeeen - Mr.Ihsan 014-9099471


*If i encounter any problem in the future ill also update on this thread . *

This post has been edited by seeseetv: Oct 8 2023, 10:52 AM

Parking

Try solarsave itramas?

This for home use to get rebate from TNB?

Never heard of , good ?

One of the biggest company iinm

Cimb also emailed me their partner solar company



Can contact each one of them

Your usage very high, 900 monthly....

Try buysolar.my.

Try Verdant Solar

Solar just doesn't worth the trouble in Malaysia with current pricing of battery and solar panel efficiency.

To best way to save electricity is to use high energy star electronic and practice rational use and house insulation.

Also don't be a fat ass, saving on food cost too.

Why would you need a battery? Whatever you generate will just minus back using NEM right? So it will just knock blocks off from your bill

show detailed quote lah.....inverter brand / solar panel brand etc

Vestech subsidary of Solarvest

NEM? I don't know how that work.
But our weather has too many cloud which can reduce the efficiency of solar power.
Also it is only better if the solar panel can follow the sun.

I'd go with the micro inverter option if you have the money, better energy yield as it doesn't get affected by shadows much

The other two options depend on what are they offering in terms of inverter and solar panel brands, plus the warranty.

Wait till the revise the tariff.
And with ringgit keep depreciating, u will see differently after 5-10 years

Go micro.

any available in kuching?

Monthly about 500 sesco bill

Micro inverter.




Usage Calculation for 1HP aircon = 8 Hours per day.

Seem to be expensive compare to normal electric bill.

It doesn’t work this way for real solar system. This is just some form of diy. Don’t expect to save electricity like the system I installed.

How many AC u run until that rates of monthly bill? Keep running it 24-7?

Get comparison from gsparx,
Better itemised the price according to brand

Good quality brand worth with the price.

Nxt year usage more than 600kwh no more rebate, all follow market price

When he talks about battery I already know he doesn’t know much about solar.

lol good luck.

These fella simply just google and when they talk about battery, insulation, use at night better, I know ady simply google.

For info people who kept saying solar doesn't need battery, NEM 3.0 will only setback your extra generation for 10 years only. After 10 years, you probably need to look up for battery to store it

try pekat solar (solaroo)

https://www.pekat.com.my/solution/solar-pho...utions/solaroo/

Parking for interesting & useful information.

Based on the table there quite expensive compared to other companies

Greenpath or Pathgreen?

Tried google turns up both

can get some discounts if you have cimb

https://deals.cimb.com/my/E-Commerce/Solaro...a9-f7783b14b86f

that said, i've used their solar panels on my factory (more than 5 years ago), it had some problems and 80% of their panels failed, they said due to weather here causing the panels to deteriorate (rubbers getting harden) quicker, water seeped into electrical circuits and basically killing the panels. They've since replaced those panels, so far so good, crossing my fingers.

Pathgreen , sorry typo .

Depends on your usage.

There are other possibilities.

Like
1. Subscribe to NEM13.0 by then or whatever name they call it.

2. Self consumption without battery - cover morning usage for free

3. Self consumption with battery - battery by the time could be way cheaper and more reliable.

4. Diy into other projects thst u want.

This one ok tak? Micro inverter.

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 17 2023, 02:50 PM

Their price more expensive than pathgreen . For micro inverter .

Got quoted rm21k from pathgreen for 5kWp

how much roughly can save?

Went to Prefect Living 2023 at mid valley and Path Green quoted me
1) package B (RM 24K) - 6.06 KWP, 12 panels and 3 micro inverters
2) package C (arM 30k) - 8.08 KWP, 16 panels and 3 micro inverters

But just asking only without negotiating with them on the price

Hi the Budget 2024 announcement on the 13th Oct, care to share if u think the terms will be better that NEM 3.0?

Nem is to offset the cost of installing solar panel. Right now the cost ithas gone down, so don’t think it is going to be any better. Maybe only 5-8 years of contract instead of 10. In nem4.0. Or maybe a fix buy rate from Tnb.

I don’t think nem has any thing to do with the budget. It’s an initiative to encourage solar adopter.

Any update?

Condo solar anyone?

For individual or common use?

Individual, can install at my residential condo?

Yup .

How about maintenance???

Nice update! Glad that you are happy with your system.

Thanks brother , i owe you 1 asam laksa fish ya 😂

hi, just a quick question. After installation, how long does it take for TNB to change your meter?

and after TNB change meter, immediately the NEM offset started counting or there is a delay period?

Installed on 22th august
Change meter on 7th september

Once change meter can straight on the solar panel and offset .

According to them , digital meter is out of stock at that time otherwise it will be faster .

thanks for the info

This is an extract from a facebook post.

Can Condo unit owner Install Solar Panels on building Rooftop?
A written reply by Condo Dr. Joseph Wong
30062018

I live in a condo in Selangor, I made a request for possible installation of Solar Panel on our roof which has the best sun. Solar supplier & installer now looking at the project and would keep them informed.
The next thing I get is received a lawyer letter informing me Solar Panel on the roof “NO GO” JMB denies my request. Saying the roof is common property, JMB has no power to decide and give me the consent unless to convene an EGM meeting to seek all owner’s approval and I shall also bear all costs (RM 20K) for calling the EGM meeting if I insist.
Can JMB deny my reasonable request? Is there any law (legal recourse) that would support me? Your knowledge will be appreciated. Thank in Advance
Answer: NO, you cannot install Solar panels on the common area (the roof)
YOUR JMB is RIGHT unless the majority of your fellow owners have given approval to your request to install solar panels on the roof.
I am not a lawyer, please regard my advice as friendly. I am not aware of any law that would allow you as a condo unit owner to install solar panels (or anything else for that matter) on the common area.
Have you proposed to the JMB if the Condominium as a whole would also be interested in install solar panels to supply electricity to all common areas? It is possible that the JMB could actually save some money on electricity bills on the monthly basis (after an initial investment) that would benefit all unit owners also.
However, as an individual unit owner, it is highly unlikely that you as an individual unit owner can install your own solar panels on the common area. Landed property, you can do what you please but condo cannot.
Hope you are clear.
If you have any question to ask the consultant, please email your questions to gmsssb@gmail.com. But not posting it on Facebook.
Thank you

I don’t buy the excuse meter no stock. I also got into the same problem. After installation, Tnb said the meter will be available after 6 weeks, but after complain to st and Tnb, they came to change after a week like that.

They just give excuse no meter. But other places got meter and they can just request if they need.

TS,
you basically converted your monthly bill from 100% to TNB, to 5% TNB and 95% to the solar company for the next 5 years. At the end of the day, the total bill still maintains the same until the 60 months payment period finishes, ie 5 years down the road.

If you were to travel much and you don't utilize the power, the bill to the solar company (or credit card) still maintains.

Unless the government hike up the electric tariffs by more than 50%, then perhaps it's worth it.... my 2 pennies worth.

Bro, can I consult U also ka? I plan to help NGO install solar. But so many company approach me, I also don't know which is good. Thanks.

2) With the new ICPT implementation, if your electricity monthly usage is above 1500kwh , you will be charged about rm150 extra monthly .

But with solar system , it is almost impossible to reach 1500kwh . As during day time when the solar is generating electricity, it will actually supply to your home electricity before sending the surplus back to the grid .

Example :
Monthly usage 1600kwh , solar generated 1500kwh .

But the meter will show 900kwh , solar generated 800kwh .

Coz the 700kwh is tallies during the day use .

Some updates,

During daytime the solar electricity generated is used to offset our usage. But night time is entirely from TNB supply.
Since I got visitors stayed for 3-4 weeks, my Aug & Sep usage were above 1500kw, TNB will not offset these readings even though I have surplus of 600kw.

I was charged the ICPT penalty. So instead of getting the 2sen subsidy, now I was charged 10sen for the 15++ usage ( actually is 12sen since no 2 sen sub). An extra of RM180 if 1500kw used....
Then only they will deduct the surplus stored 600kw.

So my bills came up to RM600+ since solar generation also low .. last month usage was 1470kw, my bill is RM3xx only. So beware not to cross the magical 1500kw usage from TNB.

Cheers.

This post has been edited by etan26: Nov 4 2023, 12:10 PM

Yea. This is a known issue.

But if your import figure is around 1400, then u r lucky because u have just avoided the icpt charges. It makes ur roi faster.

So if most people use aircons to sleep ~8 hrs/night , solar will not help reduce ?

Getting quite technical here to calculate watts etc .... when exactly does solar generates and offset , when there is daylight eg from 7am onwards or must have sunlight eg 10am onwards

It helps. But for his case, his import already over 1500kwh.

So now I monitored online the usage. Nightly I switch off both my chest freezers since using TNB electric, morning switch on again. Cut down night aircond usage in the living/dining room area.

Hopefully, next month will go down to 1300kw or below.....

On normal months, I wouldn't even hit 1400kw but since got visitors for 3 weeks, it got past 1500 and 1600 for 2 months.
Yes, daytime the solar energy will offset TNB electric but no solar energy at night then solely used TNB and that's where the issue is.

The surplus solar electric will offset the total bill but after they calculate the ICPT charges, either negative or positive figures.

This post has been edited by etan26: Nov 5 2023, 10:28 AM

But u said the spike is temporary got ppl come and stay. Now no more so should be okay.

Since kena 2 months paying extra RM200+ will make me more cautious ...

Just in case we over used airconds at evening/night.... will monitored first....

This post has been edited by etan26: Nov 5 2023, 10:53 AM

No la. The spike is definitely at night usage when ur guests blast air cons.

U said 3-4weeks. Thst easily 210 kWh extra per room for the whole month. .

If two rooms it’s 420 already.

This post has been edited by bee88: Nov 5 2023, 10:55 AM

Haiz. I wanna pasang oso. But bill monthly only 80-90.

Can pasang je. No need to see if worth it.

Coz your bill is low because of govt subsidy.

Your actual bill could be rm200-300.

When u pasang already, it means u are ready to be on your own and no need to rely on govt subsidy. That’s one thing u can be proud of yourself.

Wow
Sleep a few nights ac already over 1500 kwh?
How many ac you sleeping with and at what temp?
I still don’t it makes ROI sense to switch to solar with the current subsidies which will continue for a long time.

This post has been edited by dickybird: Nov 5 2023, 11:16 AM

Why pay more for solar when you can pay less to tnb?
Got extra money throw to holidays or other things is also a gain

Tnb subsidy won’t be there forever. It could be removed anytime. Though is quite unlikely lah.

Btw, it’s won’t be paying more actually. Worse case is the amount u pay for to Tnb for 10 years will be enough to cover to one system. The Roi is 10 years.

But that doesn’t mean I encourage ppl to install when their bill is low lah. Just another perspective of looking at why wanna go solar je.

Betul, spending abt 30k when bill is less than Rm800 is not feasible. Even if have EV, slow charge is ok and less consumption.

Rm800 bill usually solar cost will be around 40k. -50k

If rm80 bill, usually the cost will be 12-13k je.

This post has been edited by bee88: Nov 5 2023, 11:41 AM

My bill also around rm80 plus per month. If after peasant, can get sell back to TNB and end up nett bill no need pay, is it possible?

Your bill is rm 80 or rm800? If rm80, . ur roi won’t be as good. Just u get to have a 0 bill.

This post has been edited by bee88: Nov 27 2023, 04:49 PM

great sharing and follow-up!

Use to had rm300-350 bill monthly. So just change both room AC to Inverter 5 stars. So far November bill heading to rm150+. 1.5hp normal aircond just that before this is an old AC also 1.5hp.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Nov 27 2023, 08:38 PM

Okie thanks.

does it mean at night/no solar still need to draw from TNB line is it?

unless you have battery to store the generated electricity in the day?

yes, and pathgreen mentioned the battery system could cost 35k , maybe not so feasible for now and for residential.

Yes. It’s not so important to have battery system yet. But the price is getting cheaper for battery solution.

35k is already like my system price already.

How about ur system? Installed?

still contemplating between verdant and Pathgreen... which one is better actually..?

ok, doesn't sound that attractive if no NEM

Hi, any updates after 1 year+?
Maintenance? Degradation?
Total generated a year?

Your results are impressive—dropping your bill from RM650 to just RM25 is a huge saving, especially considering you even increased your electricity usage. It seems like micro inverters were definitely the way to go for maximizing efficiency and cost savings. If anyone else is deciding between string and micro inverters, your experience is a strong endorsement for micro inverters, especially from GeenPath.

Dropping from RM650 to RM25 while increasing usage is no small feat. Your experience makes a strong case for using micro inverters. I'm considering solar myself, so your story is really inspiring.

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This post has been edited by AnNamir: Jul 22 2024, 07:17 PM

Did I understand your situation correctly?


eg. Your solar generates 1800kwh.

Your power consumption is 1501kwh. Just because of the 2kwh --- you get fine rm150?

that is wtf....

What are the pros and cons for using battery ?

This post has been edited by LDP: Jul 29 2024, 03:55 PM

hi, just share my information after 2 month solar panel installation

-signed up NEM in May
-installed in july
-received rm 4k rebate after 2 week of installation
-solar panel: 12 x 605w
-total generated 815kw in August
-total generated 763kw in Sep
-my last 6 months tnb bill:

Which installer and what cost?