Please don't take this negatively but you sounded as if you have some deep anger within you towards local girls. You have a good local GF and yet you still think most local girls are bad. In my opinion, any girls are entitled to sulk a little, speak about women's rights etc. I wouldn't see them as feminism as those are just opinions. Eventually it comes down to the dynamics between the two person. Does she understands you, can she detect issues you're facing and compensate (works both ways here but TBH up till today I've tough time reading women's mind) and are both of you willing to sacrifice for each other. Perhaps you mixed around more with ladies from rich families and thus you faced ladies with different mindset. Ladies with more humble families might not always be that "entitled" and definitely won't feel superior to Vietnamese ladies (take note that some ladies have worked in Vietnam and have see how superior Vietnamese ladies might have performed at work). You also mentioned that you have local friends that do not look down on TFC girls. Give MOST local girls some credits and not just be influenced by /k thinking Anyway, nice discussion topic

I dont have deep anger towards local.
Just my experience with the 1st one kinda make me lose faith with local.
I am still ok with being friends but I will think twice before going into serious relationship.
Maybe you are right is the social circle I am in that made me feel that way.
Or maybe i prefer girl from more kampung and humble mindset.
Vietnamese girl coming from poor background and working hard to have a better future and the ability to draw the line.
I really respect that.
Gods know how many sad story i hear from them.

Ok, if I understand correctly, TS did not spend a single RM0.01 on the Vietnamese girl and now is wondering why she never contacts him anymore?

Well, if that's correct, she failed to extract cash from you so there's no point in talking with you any further.

Myvi is not the issue for genuine gals... i got one friend driving old Proton Saga, and another driving Kancil.
The Kancil driver is over 35 yrs old i think.

Buy a car because you like, want it, or need it.. not to impress girls.
but but but... fastest car is Myvi, that's why it's the king 

LMAO oh poor you... Let me try to decipher this... You probably did one of these:
- took something she dislikes (in case you're not aware, not everyone likes pork, not everyone likes veggies etc. Etc...)
- took wrong part of a chicken
- took fish along with the bones
- she's already full
- she has serious inferiority complex with her height(?!?!)

Not saying your fault, cuz the girl could've easily said what she wants and everyone's happy. But yeah, immature ones would expect you to read their minds and get upset without explaining anything when you don't meet expectations. I'm sorry that happened to you.

yo....

back to ts topic

tfc or any bar/pub worker espisially foreign girl JUST NO man.....u r asking for headache.....imagine if u really merid....more headache about paper work at immgresin side.....they come here looking for money 1st.....
maybe u r the type that fall inlove easylly just like me,but downside also come with upside and that is will get bored fast too...
maybe we should hangout share experince

btw what age r u in now?

and if u keep looking for the one...its hard to get the 1.......just stop finding and let it come as in fate

Immigration paper work is not difficult, once you know what is needed. It’s more straightforward than getting msian pr

cannot said let it come as in fate, TS also need to action punya, the most important is "where" he go find

like money ma, money wont come as in fate, we kena go work then oni got money in return

Look, if you take food for all around you, then it's natural, but if you only take food for her.... of course her eyes go round round When we go out to eat in a group, if we take food for others (not wife/gf) we always take for those around us.

As for girls demanding you to give them... give what? Money?

err... no...  if you take food for others using your own spoon/chopsticks/etc... i don't want your saliva.
Ok, if you're using dedicated cutlery for the food.

It's not genuine. If she is into you, she will keep in touch with you. Either that, or once she replies you (if any), then it's about $.

Don’t worry Ts. So many việt mới incoming. I’m sure you will find another.

Or straight go hcmc and look. In your spare time, try pickup the language, it helps, start from basic phrases

yesterday morning i msg my cambodia gf no reply till she start work at around 6pm
felt pain waiting for her msg too...but 1 side of me tell myself'wtf dude?she is not compile no answermy wa pun'

ya those felling do apear when i need some1 to chat with,but knowing she is not really exclusive to me....she might even doing it with other guy.....
haizzz such life huh...guess only new/other girl can erase this feeling

You met the wrong kind of girls dude. So far not a single lady (all locals) asked me bout how much money I can give her. Do look into your social circle, something is wrong if all the girls you're interested in asked for money.

TFC again meh? can find girl at another place ma? hahahahahaha, oh ya....TS dun wan try Thai mois meh?

i planing to go vietnam ho chi min...looking for kaki jer..alone kindda boring

Actually what made you think the local girls look you down? Back when I was in highschool I didn't know I was popular with girls and always thought no one liked me and it's only until after I was out working that some girls from highschool told me that I'm actually quite popular amongst them. So it could be just your own perception that you're inferior but actually the ladies don't see that.

You could have hang RM 100 see what happened... Doesnt mean you must hang RM 1000... You door also havent open then you making speculations lol...
I also spent roughly 3-5k (makan, drinking, go penang, sponsor some shit) with my GF to even start talking about dating...
Eh brother you go buy vietnamese bride from official channel also need RM10k bro...

Going out with customers means few things.
1. Go out sleep get more money [RM500-RM3000 one night... easy money... that entire week they can stay home for 1 night.]
2. Build connections [So they come back to hang more]
3. Old customers/friends [Maybe these customer helped them in the past. Some vietmoi will repay what is owed. My GF lokap before, got few customer helped her get out. She will forever be in their debt.]
Whatever you just describe here is the exact reason I no longer interested to date local girls.
And becareful of the feeling you get from vietnamese girls.
Most of them know how to bait, is their job scope.
Ask your junior how many year loan or who paid for the car then we talk.

just want to give some advice from an older man

your first point of taking dishes for another person especially a female at a wedding dinner can send the wrong message that both of you are a couple.  unless you also do that for a few other people at the same time,  it's probably not a good idea to do it.

for your second point, how long have you been dating for this question to come up.

it's not a normal questions to ask and even some people going to marry also never ask ti's question

share us which TFC is it

we help to you test car and check her loyalty.

I'm afraid to say that 2 weeks is hardly enough time to get to know a person deeply. It seems like you have a serious case of limerence. I suggest you take a step back to really evaluate the reality of the situation. Please don't hang on to fantasy and false hope anymore. Remove all her contacts and focus on yourself. You'll thank yourself later.

Vietmoi who works in TFC... TS, dont even think about it for a sec. Just move on. 100% into your money only. Been there done that.
Dont belif those ppl who encouraged you to go after her. Those are probably inexperienced kiddos living in their fantasyland. The reality is, viet + TFC = scam your money. Just forget abt it and move on.

This itself shows her attitude towards u. You're just one of her many customers. Better spend energy and money to find better, more realistic targets.

you gotta stop stalking her.

do you need go new place meet some vietmoi?

Ya kinda, maybe just meet new ppl so your head can try forget the old 1

lol, im surrounded by vietmoi 

You do know that to bed them only costs around 230 right?

IMO, the girl is just treating TS like an ordinary customer only. No strings attached.

yes

You're just having a crush... just move on. Try joining say hiking groups etc. to look for local girls...

wanna go holiday at cambodia?
i intro u girl,that u can bring to hotel 

I think all girls pattern a lot. 
But there are some rare ones, but i think that's because of good compatibility that you don't notice the pattern.

Enjoy the process of the pursuit

Thats the Modus Operandi Bro !!!

listen to this master . not worth and you will end up losing more than just money.

in hcm, there's alot can converse in good chinese, hokkien or cantonese too. they are pretty easy going and friendly as long as you don't act like a badass.

Usually if she got interest, she'll keep pestering you.

Plus their jealousy is another level and will drive you mad.. Haha

Bro TS, please allow me to share my 2cent experience :

With some luck, time, money and patience spent, I had the chance to peek into TFC / FL / pretty local / foreign girl's phone before (of course in front of them), just a peek and I lost count how many guys msg and miscalls to her.
that open my eyes and from then I see them at most as "best friends" only.

in short, it is possible - who knows you're the lucky guy
But in reality you must be prepared for a battle royale with her lineup of other guys in her phone, the more attractive she is, the more guys she will be seeing.

If you believe you can make a lot of money, your motivation and actions will naturally drive towards set of disciplined plans to reach your financial goals. Same goes to meeting pretty girls, if your pre-story says I can't get this girl because I'm not enough handsome or money, you're beating yourself up without reference experiences. You're not fully living as a human being

Hi, clicked into the thread cause my selff am dating a vietmoi i meet through mobile game ( pubg) during MCO stay at home period. until recently i went to hcmc to confirm our R/S.

I have read almost all TS replies and please allow me to give some input.

I believe that the real problem is not all on those girls you have meet but is yourself.
I kind of get the feels that you are lacking in selff confident and it was reflected on the response those girls gave you.
My Dear Bro, confident is very vital no matter in everyday life or pursuing  a female you will need to have confidence to carry yourself well.
If not people will precive your lack of confidence as sign of weakling. they find no sense of security nor can the see their possible future with a weakling.
Always have this mindset that " it is ok if I i cant get this girl, if she ignore me i will ignore her" acting desperate is the worst you can do.
Many bros here reccomend that you go join some running/hiking/cycling groups is very spot on. it enlarge your social circle, let you get used and practice socialing and get to learn more from others. getting more vitamins D is a plus too as it will make you more cheerful. Focus on yourself as it is ok to be bold to have some tummy fat. they key is how you carry yourself.

Lastly I also would like to add TFC/Escort/KTV, these girls went to such place for works is definitely the type desperate ffor $$  either for their poor family or their very own luxury lifestyle. is very hard to find true love. their mindset is already set to earn as much as possible.

All the Best Bro dont let some small bumps stopping you from going forward.