This post has been edited by westlife: Sep 30 2023, 10:20 PM

a lot of features coming to iOS 17. Especially the 'Standby'.

This post has been edited by westlife: Sep 30 2023, 10:20 PM

Wow, no live chatter during WWDC… things are slow in the Apple world

indeed. haha. no ppl are interested in mac hardware.

iOS17 is pretty much a boring update. Brings almost nothing except that Standby feature which has a good reason for it's existance. Other than that, I feel everything else is just a mere gimmick.

Also, iOS 17 is sunsetting iPhone 8, 8+ and X.


This post has been edited by PoisonSoul: Jun 6 2023, 01:08 PM

It is indeed a very underwhelming update. Improved autocorrect also listed as a feature? really?

Watch news outlet for reports of people abusing their "Contact Posters" to harrass girls (and guys) with their dikpik soon lol.

was hoping for system wide color that can adapt to your wallpaper change like android material you

Trust me next year iPhone Xs, XR and Xs Max also not getting iOS 18 update

Consider quite good already, supporting 6 years software update

Meanwhile Android getting 4 years of software update (Samsung selected model), while Pixel only 3 years

yes. no other manufacturers can beat apple in terms of software support.

and all supporting model getting software update on the same day

each had their pros and cons

dun see any much pros on android devices nowadays..

most boring and minor update ios i must say, should just name it ios 16.7

i think this is probably the first newly launched iOS update that i couldn't be bothered with installing a dev-beta. not worth the hassle.

the Public Beta has been launched

Anyone installed the beta yet? Our banking apps working well?

I upgraded to iOS 17 when it was just released in Developer Beta, and I have been using it for over a month without encountering any issues with banking apps. The banking apps I frequently use include HBL Connect, MAE, M2U Biz MY, OCBC Bank, Rize, and Standard Chartered. Of course, other finance-related apps such as BigPay, Boost, TnG eWallet, Wise, PayPal, Setel, Atome, etc. can also be used normally.

is CIMB Clicks working on the public beta?

Mine is working.
Most banking app working as normal.

Yup. I finally installed the beta. Currently only 2 items not working:
1) Readdle Scanner Pro
2) Verification notice when log in with Apple ID. It disappeared quickly and unable to tap anything to view the verification code.

iOS 17 PB installed working well, by that I mean all bank apps (very important). Last year on the first 16 PB, all bank apps crashed.
No other complaints. Using on SE 2022

ios 17 Publik Beta 2

how to get beta ver. for iOS17?

Knowing how to disable Wi-Fi Assist on iOS might just be the solution to a frustrating issue you're having with your iPhone. Like many of the best phones around, iPhones have a setting that allows your device to utilize cellular data to boost your internet speeds if your Wi-Fi connection is a bit dodgy. On an iPhone, this is called Wi-Fi Assist.

Wi-Fi Assist can be great — helping you utilize today's rapid 5G network while not using as much data as if you were using cellular data alone. However, having it switched on all the time without realizing can be a double-edged sword.

All the time that Wi-Fi Assist is boosting your Wi-Fi signal using data, it's well, using data. Your data. That you pay for, and which may be limited. If you've found yourself running close or over your data allowance, this may be the culprit. At the very least, if you know you're regularly cutting it quite fine with your data allowance, you'll want to have this feature disabled anyway, even if you don't think it's the main cause of your data usage.

Likewise, all the time Wi-Fi Assist is checking your signal strength and searching for cellular network connection to boost your speeds, it's using battery, so if you're trying to eek out everything you can from a charge — perhaps if you're travelling or haven't got a charger nearby — knowing how to disable Wi-Fi Assist on iPhone will give you another power-saving tool. For more tips on saving battery, check out our guides on how to disable background app refresh on iPhone, which will definitely help, as well as our 12 tips for saving battery life on iPhone.

Without further ado, here's how to disable Wi-Fi Assist on iPhone.

How to disable Wi-Fi Assist on iPhone
It's important to keep your iPhone as up to date as possible. If your iPhone needs an update, take this opportunity to give it one. We can show you how to update an iPhone if you need some pointers.

1. Go to Settings > Mobile/Cellular Service


Open the Settings app and tap Mobile Service. You may see Cellular Service, Cellular Data or Mobile Data.

2. Toggle off Wi-Fi Assist


Scroll down (you'll need to go down quite a way, past all the individual apps) and toggle off Wi-Fi Assist.

And you're done. That's really all there is to it. You'll notice that to the left of the toggle, there's the amount of data that Wi-Fi Assist has used recorded. In my case, that's over 3.5GB, which shows that Wi-Fi Assist can use a sizeable chunk over time.

Source: This iPhone setting could be draining your battery and data — here's how to disable it

Apple is introducing new camera shortcuts in its Shortcuts app with iOS 17. The new features will allow users to more easily jump into select camera modes without going through the full camera app first.

The Shortcuts update, spotted in the iOS 17 beta by Shortcuts enthusiast Matthew Cassinelli, pulls out some of the iPhone's most useful camera modes and places them front and center. With this update, you can now launch directly into the following modes: Cinematic, Pano, Photo, Portrait, Portrait Selfie, Selfie, Slo-Mo, Time-Lapse, and Video.

If you're often using your iPhone for portraits, for example, a shortcut that takes you directly there would be appealing. Sure, the time you save might be a little at first, but it all adds up.

Shortcuts is already one of our favorite iPhone features, and we've pulled together a list of 6 useful iPhone shortcuts (and another list with 9 iPhone shortcuts, if you need even more).

With iOS 17 though, we now know Apple is extending support to one of the iPhone's most well-known features, the camera. It's almost sure to be a hit for some when it launches, and it may even lift the profile of the under-the-radar Shortcuts app more broadly.

Apple's iOS 17 is currently in testing, but will properly launch in or around the second half of September, going by previous patterns.

Putting focus on the camera
Bringing faster access to the camera with the very useful Shortcuts app would be a great move from Apple, but it's just one of many camera-focused improvements expected this year.

Apple is also expected to bring camera improvements to the iPhone 15 line-wide. These include the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus, both of which are rumored to be getting 48MP camera sensors, though possibly not the same sensor as is used in the current iPhone 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max.

The iPhone 15 Pro Max could get better at zoom, with Apple rumored to be equipping this with a periscope lens like some of the best Android phones sport.

The iPhone 15 Pro is reportedly the odd one out here, with Apple expected to keep broadly the same camera setup as the iPhone 14 Pro. But there may be a new sensor in play, and we can expect improvements in software and the new A17 Bionic processor to drive image quality improvements.

With all these changes coming down the pipeline, it’s no wonder Apple’s making it easier to jump right into your preferred camera mode. If you’ve got it, flaunt it, as they say.

Source: Apple's iOS 17 update could make taking photos much faster

iOS 17 beta 5 is out

Apple's been steadily rolling out software betas, and as of Tuesday, developers can finally get their hands on the iOS 17 beta 5. Just update the software, and you'll be able to experience some of the upcoming features for the best iPhones before its latest operating system officially releases later this year.

This test cycle is limited to registered developers at the moment. There's still no word yet on when we can expect the public beta to arrive, but odds are we shouldn't have to wait long. Be sure to check out our guide on how to install iOS 17 public beta if you haven’t done so already. In addition to iOS 17, Apple also rolled out the fifth developer beta versions of iPadOS 17, tvOS 17, watchOS 10 and macOS Sonoma this week.

So without further ado, let's dive on into what's new with the latest iOS 17 beta.

Redesigned shortcut icons
First up, the Shortcuts app has some new icons for Safari functions that make it easier to tell at a glance what each action does. Previously, options like Search Web, Filter Archives and Open URL were all represented by the same default Safari icon. With the fifth beta for iOS 17, these have been updated with more specific icons indicating their functions.

Safari's revamped private browsing
From the first beta, we already knew iOS 17 introduces a security update for Safari, adding enhancements to Private Browsing sessions to keep your internet usage safe and secure. With Private Browsing, users can block all known trackers from loading and remove tracking added to URLs in private tabs (as well as in Messages and Mail). A new addition, Locked Private Browsing, adds the ability to lock your web sessions behind Face ID, Touch ID or a passcode when you're not actively using them.

The latest beta adds a new splash screen for private browsing that pops up when you open a private browser window for the first time after installing iOS 17. The prompt provides a brief description of the feature along with the option to enable Locked Private Browsing. Earlier betas had this option on by default.

Redesigned Health app
The iOS Health app's new Mental Wellbeing tracking abilities, which were also introduced with the first beta, are getting an update too.

A new tracking interface lets you describe your current mood with a slider to keep a running log of your mood day-to-day. The second beta introduced a new animation to the slider, assigning a color and shape to reflect how pleasant or unpleasant you're feeling at the moment. This latest beta adds a new graphic that launches when you tap the mood tracking interface, as well as different graphics, colors and symbols that correspond to each mood.

Tweaks to Live Voicemail and App Store
Apple's made minor revisions to the wording and punctuation used in several of its apps. For instance, Apple is ditching the all-caps button labels in the App Store. The buttons for Download, Get, Open and Update will now be in title case instead.

The message prompt for Live Voicemail has also been changed, presumably to make it more clear that the caller has reached a voicemail box. Previously, the default voicemail message included language that "the person you're calling may pick up," which could be confusing whether callers should stay on hold or leave a message. Apple's replaced that wording, and the message is now as follows:
"Your call has been forwarded to voicemail. The person you're trying to reach is not available. At the tone, please record your message. When you have finished recording, you may hang up."

Source: iOS 17 beta 5 released to developers — new features for your iPhone

If there’s one feature in foldable phones that has proven to be meaningful to me, it’s the way they handle multitasking. This is an area where the iPhone has struggled in, and quite frankly, it’s downright embarrassing when you consider how Android offered multitasking as far back as 2016 with the release of Android Nougat. Before an iPhone Flip is announced, Apple desperately needs to fix the multitasking problem with iOS.


You might be led to believe that it’s something that the iPhone offers, but Apple’s interpretation works more like app switching rather than true multitasking — like being able to run two apps at the same time, side-by-side to one another. What’s even scarier is that Apple hasn’t really changed this function since it unveiled app switching with iOS 4. I remember this because I shot a video showing off this feature with an iPhone 3GS. Before that, you had to annoyingly go back to the home screen to launch another app.

So yeah, it’s long overdue for a makeover if Apple intends on convincing consumers that foldables are the future. Whether the company goes after flip style foldables like the Motorola Razr+, or perhaps mini-tablet sized foldables like the recent Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5, Apple will need to once and for all bring true multitasking to iOS.

Apple’s been using the same implementation since iOS 4

Apple already introduced iOS 17, and now that the public beta has been out, it’s shown us how the mobile platform continues to mature with each iteration. Don’t get me wrong, I love using features like StandBy Mode and Live Stickers, but I’m stumped as to why multitasking remains unchanged.

Aside from the visual improvements, there hasn’t been a change functionally to multitasking from iOS 4 to iOS17 — you simply just move from one app to another. That's it! Even though I’ve been accustomed to this process for quite a while now, it needs to be changed in a drastic way for Apple to even consider bringing an iPhone Flip to market.

It makes sense for the iPad, it should as well for an iPhone Flip

Interestingly enough, there’s real multitasking with iPadOS. It’s called Stage Manager and you can get up to three apps running simultaneously, which is conducive for a device with a much larger screen than any iPhone. People who’ve ditched their laptops in favor of a hybrid setup with the iPad know how effective this feature is with their workflow — so it would make sense for real multitasking on an iPhone Flip.

I can’t tell you how effective I am using the various multitasking features on my Galaxy Z Fold 4, so if Apple ends up making a similar foldable, it’s necessary to match what its rivals are offering right now. Apple could essentially bring the same multitasking features in iPadOS to iOS, which would be more than what’s available now, but there are two critical specifications that an iPhone Flip needs to have in order for this to all pan out smoothly.

More processing power and RAM

When you’re trying to juggle multiple apps simultaneously, an iPhone Flip would require a lot of processing power and RAM to effectively handle multitasking. Apple takes pride in the intuitiveness of iOS, so in order for this fundamental principle to remain, a faster processor and more RAM would be necessary.

You probably experienced at one point or another on your iPhone how a web page in Safari will sometimes have to reload from scratch when you briefly switch to another app. More RAM would enable a foldable iPhone to store an app’s state in memory longer, so it wouldn’t have to relaunch it if you do something else.

Of course, running two apps at the same time on screen can be taxing on the processor, but the rumored A17 Bionic chip would be a worthy candidate to test out this new method of multitasking. The 3-nanometer manufacturing process that Apple’s rumored to be using would be able to deliver true multitasking, especially if we’re to see a similar Super Retina XDR OLED display with a 120Hz refresh rate.

iPhone Flip multitasking outlook

There’s no denying the impact Apple could make in the world of foldables. New features previewed in the iOS 17 public beta allude to how Apple may be retooling multitasking in iOS. For example, SharePlay in iOS 17 lets you share a movie you’re watching with someone on FaceTime. And given how Dynamic Island offers some ‘light’ multitasking capabilities, it’s still far from the true side-by-side apps multitasking I’ve experienced on Android.

With rumors painting a 2024 potential release for Apple’s iPhone Flip, it could be a feature that could perhaps be ready for iOS 18. There’s still time for Apple to work out its implementation, but it would be disappointing if multitasking doesn’t get its long overdue upgrade for an iPhone Flip.

Source: iPhone Flip — Apple can’t make a foldable phone until it fixes iOS’ multitasking problem

nice 🙈

Last week it was revealed that the iOS 17 beta had made some changes to the call screen, and moved some of the buttons around — including the red End Call button. It seems Apple hasn’t quite figured out what sort of layout it wants, because the latest iOS 17 beta has shifted the button positioning yet again.

The iOS 17 public beta 4 (also known as developer beta 6) has just started rolling out, and with it comes this tweaked version of the call screen. It’s very similar to the last version of the call screen, which featured some major changes from the interface on iOS 16. Only this time Apple has swapped the positioning of the End and Keypad buttons.

This means the End Call button is now back in the center, albeit still at the bottom of the screen, while the Keypad is sitting in the bottom right.


It’s not clear why the interface has been changed again, and Apple doesn’t have a habit of explaining such decisions. There was a bunch of outcry against this change, though, especially since the FaceTime button now lives where the End call button used to be.

But that backlash really only gained traction last week, and that would mean a very short turnaround for the latest change. To be fair, people are making considerably less phone calls than they used to — and the younger the user the fewer calls they seem to make.

In those instances people tend to look at their screen and hit the big red button, rather than relying on muscle memory alone. Of course some people still do that, and the kind of change Apple preaviously implemented in the iOS 17 beta may have caused them some minor awkwardness for the first few days and weeks after upgrading.

At least now the button has moved down the screen by about a quarter of an inch, instead of diagonally. If you are one of those muscle memory fans, that should make it a lot easier to readjust your habits.

Other additions in iOS 17 public beta 4
There’s more to the new iOS 17 beta than just a newly-tweaked call screen — though it will no doubt be welcome news to users.

In the Messages app, long-pressing the “+” button in the bottom left will now bring up the Photo gallery — saving you the minor hassle of selecting Photos from the menu. The Photos app itself has a new splash screen when you open it for the first time, explaining all the new features that have been included in the update. There's the option to have Albums in the Photos widget, albums of your pet pictures, pinch-to-crop and more customizable memories.

Animations for Mood Tracking have also had some tweaks, with faster animations and more rings around each shape. It looks like the wallpaper icons in the Display & Brightness section of the settings app has also had a minor update.

The launch of iOS 17 is drawing ever closer, and if past experience tells us anything it’ll arrive right before the iPhone 15 launch. Currently the Apple September Event is rumored to be happening on September 12, which means we could be less than a month away from the full public release.

With that in mind, it means all future beta updates will be similar to this — smaller tweaks and enhancements rather than big flashy features. Because at this stage Apple is going to be focussed on refining the iOS 17 update, and not potentially adding things that could cause more problems.

Be sure to check out our iOS 17 hub for the rundown of all the latest features coming to your iPhone, and believe me there are a lot of them to sift through. And if you still can’t wait for the public release, we have a guide on how to install the iOS 17 public beta. That gives you the chance to check everything out a little early, but with the risk that some of it may not work as expected.

Source: iOS 17 beta just moved the End Call button again — plus other changes

We’re just few weeks away.

long live team apple🙉

yeay

Maybe we’ll get one more beta before Release candidate which is supposedly the final version.

it means we have to wait a bit long for the final version

Final version is already being loaded to the new iPhones. So iOS 17 will be out one week after the Apple event where the preorders start to deliver to the preorder customers.

finally, io17 with A17 chip 🙊

Your iPhone has a built-in feature that lets you convert any currency quickly. And what’s more, it couldn’t be easier to use.
While there are several ways of converting cash and looking up exchange rates using your iPhone (from Spotlight Search to asking Siri), this nifty feature works faster and a little more discreetly.

If you’ve ever been travelling abroad and needed to translate foreign costs from a restaurant menu, price tag, or supermarket till, you’ll know how useful it can be to subtly convert prices on the fly.

The feature was first introduced by Apple with iOS 16. One of the best additions to the update was the expansion of its Live Text function, which enables iPhone users to identify text in an image, then copy, paste, share, search for, and even translate it. Your iPhone can do this by using something called Visual Look Up, which essentially performs searches on the contents of images and videos. It's one of our favorite iPhone features, and a big part of why we think iPhones are some of the best phones around.

Anyway, one of the clever new tricks added to the Live Text function included currency conversion. This means that by hovering over and zooming in on a price using your iPhone camera, you can get a real-time conversion in your own region’s currency within seconds.

So, next time you’re on holiday and you come across a price tag displaying a foreign currency, follow these easy steps to convert it.

How to convert currency quickly using Visual Look Up on your iPhone
Open Settings > Camera
Toggle on Show Detected Text
Point your Camera at prices
Tap Live Text
View currency

1. Go to Settings > Camera
Open the Settings app, then scroll down and tap Camera.


2. Toggle on Show Detected Text
Now toggle on Show Detected Text.


3. Point your camera at prices
Open the Camera app and point the camera at the price you want to convert. For example, this could be a menu, a sign, or a price tag. Ensure the price is in focus, clear and within the yellow frame.


4. Tap Live Text
Tap the Live Text icon in the bottom right-hand corner of your screen. Notice that the price to be converted is showing in the bottom left. You can tap More to change the price to be converted, if there are multiple on screen.


5. View Currency
From here, a conversion option will appear in the lower left-hand corner where you can view the currency compatible with the region your iPhone is set to.


Source: This iPhone camera trick converts any currency instantly — try it now

currently in the software update section, there is no more iOS17 beta3 or any number, just iOS 17. So it is the RC?

yes, the build number is now just 21A329

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Anyone installed? So far so good?

installed
for me nothing much new
new text and ring tones
lockscreen clock font size can customise
keyboard prediction slight change

Feels the same. anyway it has been the same since iOS7.

This post has been edited by deepan84: Sep 19 2023, 10:06 AM

Does it slow down the phone after iOS 17?

I like the standby mode very much.

nope

me too

I managed to keep the standby mode "always on" on my iPhone 13.

later nite will update also.. hehe

doesnt work on my phone---in settings its enabled
plug in and put on side and when i tap the screen, the old lockscreen shows

Anyone know how to remove transparent background when someone call us?

yes, thanks Bro.

This is definitely useful.

Actually u don't need to tap the screen, once u start to charge the phone while your phone is in landscape mode, it will automatically display standby mode info.

After update, my previous ringtone went missing.

I set the "Reflection" as my notification sound, but now I can no longer able to set "Reflection" inside the menu after iOS 17 update, it is forced under Ringtone no longer able to set as notification sound.

This post has been edited by darren_yuri: Sep 19 2023, 03:43 PM

News said after update to IOS17, Battery drain fast and device very hot till can cook egg


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Got problem with Siri. Doesn't work. Tried setting up again and it can't recognize what I'm saying
It feels like it can't hear me very well. Have to shout at it. Previously I can just speak softly and it can pick up everything. It can hear Hey Siri better than Siri

This post has been edited by N9484640: Sep 19 2023, 04:33 PM

Though not an IOS17 feature, but still a good tip/feature.

Did you say hey while you dont need to? Or the other way round?

no such issue for me

ya, battery drain faster....but didn't get hot

Just battery drain faster even without using it, been using few days.....roughly 15-20% drop faster compare previous ios16

Because of indexing existing data from pre-update.
Hence why phone processor will heat up and battery life will be affected for few days.

iOS just released today... how come you already use for few days?

I'm a beta user, didn't follow up much. But I'm pretty sure mine one is updated on Sat/Sun as it prompt out on my phone that time.
So it's been using for few days on this new ios for few days, previous beta also wont drain like this

I got Reminders set up as a widget. I hate it now you can check off a reminder on the widget itself. I already accidentally checked off one

Quick one I notice the buttons in Call screen been re-arranged.

I updated it this morning. My text tone is a customized one made using Garageband. Now, my text tone is still showing that customized tone. However, once I want to change to another customized tone, it shows "None" and my customized tones are no longer visible on text tone. They can only be seen on "ringtone."

Also, finally, we can select two different tones for two mobile no. (useful for dual SIMs), though this has been available on Android for years.

After updating to ios17, all my favourite transfers in Maybank MAE app all gone. I deleted the app and reinstalled. So now i try requesting the OTP but the OTP never comes. What is going on?

I checked my MAE app, my favourite transfers are still intact.

nice update 👍

that's weird, favourite should be store in Maybank server as the web also refer to the same

hi all. not sure why. i dont see the option to change Hey Siri to Siri only. Its only able to turn listen to Hey siri on or off.

Yea thats why. But my fav page was empty. Very weird. Now i cant register back as the OTP does not come

You can only choose the following( settings > Siri and search)
Siri or hey siri
Hey siri
Off

There’s no way to switch to Siri only

This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Sep 20 2023, 07:19 AM

Updated to iOS 17 last night and love the Standby Mode - though my Analog clock shows Cupertino time, hahaha… didn’t bother changing it yet coz I was gonna go to bed… Will fix it tonight

Hey there, I have the same problem on 13pro.

After checking - it is only available to some languages and some regions.
The option appear after I change from English - Singapore to English - US.

you are probably experiencing the same glitch that happens whenever someone changes to a new phone. try to uninstall and then reinstall back the application - that should sort it out. i encountered this when i bought my 12pro, the bank calls it "security feature". do update.

Love the standby mode too and now i can understand why "Always On" display is a must!

Let me know how to fix that

Haha, yeah, I heard it isn’t that straightforward… lets see

The standby mode only works with a stand, right?

Yup, and it needs to be a charging stand that you can place your phone horizontally at that.

So, if it is a mobile phone stand without charging capability, will not work?

No really physical stand... just put it up to anything... wall/ book/ laptop screen....
as long as it charging. then it will work.





This post has been edited by AhJian: Sep 20 2023, 02:17 PM

Yeah, that’s right! It needs to be plugged in and place horizontally