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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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post Jul 1 2023, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 1 2023, 07:29 AM)
i feel like HRW gonna get a earful from a lot of people in the world when Ukrainian been defending while russians been using thermobaric bombs, cluster incendiary bomb, blow up a big dam, etc...

but yeah, Ukraine is a signatory against use of AP landmines. this is sort of wrong.
maybe they should pull back from it the signatory.
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You need to remember that Russia has lots of such mines too. So, if Ukraine starts using them, Russia too will use them. Who suffers more...

Btw, you should know that thermobaric weapons and incendiary bombs are not banned by UN....
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post Jul 1 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 1 2023, 09:59 AM)
Awesome....
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post Jul 1 2023, 10:17 AM

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The war is going well for Russia..... Ukraine is really fighting to their last men for the clown... Soon, no more Ukraine men left on this planet....
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nuclear weapon transfer to belarus, new wagner base in belarus.

russia wanna attack ukraine from belarus side confirmed.
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post Jul 1 2023, 01:37 PM

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seems like in our lifetime there is a possibility of the witnessing sun rising from the west and feel of the wave of gamma radiation may come true.

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 1 2023, 01:37 PM)
seems like in our lifetime there is a possibility of the witnessing sun rising from the west and feel of the wave of gamma radiation may come true.
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It's a good thing, the west can nuke themselves to oblivion....
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post Jul 1 2023, 02:20 PM

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in this case,
drones works better than ATGM.
seems like a abandoned tank fill with explosives.


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post Jul 1 2023, 02:27 PM

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clearly air drop bomb drones are a problem to russian army.


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Guys, bila WW3?
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post Jul 1 2023, 02:48 PM

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russian troops morale is certainly pretty low right now.
for past months, there been videos of russian soldiers wives pleading, russian soldiers making group video about lack of ammo and/or treatment...
and now confrontation with a commanding officer.

the shaping operations must have taken fruits due to the complain of ammunition shortages.



3/ In the recording, the discussion goes as follows. An officer (O) named Sergey is apparently informing a soldier (S) about the death of a popular man in their unit during the Ukrainian counter-offensive. The soldier is very angry about how the men have been treated:

4/ O: "I don't know if the battalion commander has told you or not about what just happened at the 'cucumber' [apparently a nickname for a position, probably referring to its shape on a map].

S: Please tell me, many have not heard.

O: A [Ukrainian] sabotage group ...

5/ S: Can you get closer [to the phone]?

O: A sabotage group attacked the guys, there were ten men left there along with your company man Sergei Maryanych. They took the fight, two men were taken prisoner.

S: Ours?

6/ O: Yes. Several men died. Who, nothing is known. The latest information – Sergey Maryanych went live on the radio and said "fire at me" and communication stopped. Whether Sergey Maryanych is alive or not I don't know. He did a heroic deed. And all his guys are out there.

7/ S: No, well, why was it necessary to destroy people there? You were there today, in the afternoon, everything was explained to you... Can you please explain the meaning of their deaths? What is it for?

O: An order.

8/ S: An order. Now how are we to explain this order to his relatives? Can you? Through what asshole did they make this order? Do we need [to hold] this fucking 'cucumber' with no artillery, with fucking nothing of anything? And more will die.

9/ O: So, whatever the situation, no one has taken this task away from us.

S: Tasks should also be set competently.

O: Look, again...

S: Competent commanders should be sent with us.

O: Come on, they get killed there, artillery hits them.

10/ S: Certainly, certainly! It's easier to sit there and give out tasks. Anyone can reach the 'five'. [unclear what this refers to] Why doesn't one of the seniors, deputy commanders, go under the command of this group?

O: Who told you they're not?

11/ S: We've been there ourselves. They take us to the [forest] strip and say: go over there.

O: And where was the battalion commander for three days?

S: We don't know. Yes, fuck knows where...

O: He was on the 'cucumber'.

12/ S: And why did he go out alone and leave the guys behind?

O: Because he's the battalion commander.

S: And the guys are nobody, they're expendable, right? It's cool in general, we'll get others. Now you try to explain this to our parents and families.

13/ S: And what will they tell you? Sanya, brother, you can explain if you have a conscience, and here, there's no officer's honour, no conscience, which is why we...

O: There's no need to talk about the honour of an officer.

14/ S: And because what about us, we've been abandoned. We've been abandoned.

O: Who's abandoned you? Have have you been abandoned?

S: Yes.

O: When?

S: When we first came in, they just left us.

O: And what, nobody was there?

15/ S: Nobody! There was nobody! The 'Frenchman' led us. We've just been abandoned. And lost, when we came out three days later, they hugged and kissed us because they didn't think we were alive any more.

16/ S: And the fucking battalion commander, fuck, was shouting "thank you" when he brought us in. "Thank you, thank you." Where's the "thank you", fuck that "thank you". Yes, he told stories... There are 5 people here who were in this group, they haven't invented this from here.

17/ S: I was standing on the road just now, he was passing by, he even fucking turned away so as not to see us. I'm on the phone talking, he drives by, I look at him, and he turned away like he didn't fucking notice. Not from you alone, Sergoya.

18/ S: Just turned the fuck away and flew the fuck off somewhere.

O: OK, I understand..."

19/ The death of Sergey Chepik Maryanych was announced on Russian social media on 21 June. He is said to have been the commander of the 6th motorised rifle company of the 2nd battalion of the 1486th Leningrad regiment.

20/ According to a post on VK, "he died heroically near Bakhmut, covering the retreat of his subordinates, Sergey fought back to the last and remained undefeated."

21/ An account from a Russian local news website says that he was covering the retreat of wounded comrades but was equipped with "only an automatic rifle with a pair of clips [60 rounds] and a pistol [and] grenades..." He is said to have called down Russian fire on himself.

22/ "Having run into an ambush and a serious breakthrough of the defence line, he accepted the battle... It was unequal... He was shot and finished off at close range..." His men are said to have renamed his unit the "Chepik Company" in his memory. /end
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Russia Ministry Of Defense Briefing - 1 Jul 2023


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First, Bramlette was caught off guard by how many people picked up and went to Ukraine to help fight without having any military experience.

“There’s a lot of really dumb-ass volunteers over here who have no business being in a war,” he said.

Once in Ukraine, Bramlette sized up some different groups of foreign volunteers, but found their military background similarly lacking. He was “equally unhappy with the quality of foreigners there,” he said.

“This is my third war I’ve fought in, and this is by far the worst one,” Offenbecker told The Daily Beast. “You’re getting fucking smashed with artillery, tanks. Last week I had a plane drop a bomb next to us, like 300 meters away. It’s horrifying shit.”

Once he was there, some of his buddies from the military started messaging him asking for information on how to join up, too. But he ignored messages for months.

“To be honest it was pretty bad so I didn’t want to bring anyone else into it,” he said.

The missions were grueling, Bramlette said. In Iraq or Afghanistan, Bramlette had air support, or supporting ISR, or intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. “The worst day in Afghanistan and Iraq is a great day in Ukraine,” he said. “Even when we thought it wasn’t, we were always in control of the situation… versus as a commander of a team in Ukraine,” where there are more unknowns.


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post Jul 1 2023, 10:34 PM

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After a month into the offensive, now only we get to see other Russian attack helicopters, in this instance a Mi-35M (Hind-E), hunting Ukrainian armor.

But damn that night vision cam is far superior to the Ka-52 Alligator tho!

Interestingly, the Russian nickname for the Mi-24/Mi-35 series is the 'Crocodile'

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A Ka-52 Alligator gets three consecutive kills on Ukrainian armor

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post Jul 1 2023, 10:52 PM

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this kind of proves how resilient, tough, determined the Ukrainian troops are to be under such pressure and intense battles.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 1 2023, 10:19 PM)

First, Bramlette was caught off guard by how many people picked up and went to Ukraine to help fight without having any military experience.

“There’s a lot of really dumb-ass volunteers over here who have no business being in a war,” he said.

Once in Ukraine, Bramlette sized up some different groups of foreign volunteers, but found their military background similarly lacking. He was “equally unhappy with the quality of foreigners there,” he said.

“This is my third war I’ve fought in, and this is by far the worst one,” Offenbecker told The Daily Beast. “You’re getting fucking smashed with artillery, tanks. Last week I had a plane drop a bomb next to us, like 300 meters away. It’s horrifying shit.”

Once he was there, some of his buddies from the military started messaging him asking for information on how to join up, too. But he ignored messages for months.

“To be honest it was pretty bad so I didn’t want to bring anyone else into it,” he said.

The missions were grueling, Bramlette said. In Iraq or Afghanistan, Bramlette had air support, or supporting ISR, or intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. “The worst day in Afghanistan and Iraq is a great day in Ukraine,” he said. “Even when we thought it wasn’t, we were always in control of the situation… versus as a commander of a team in Ukraine,” where there are more unknowns.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 1 2023, 04:28 PM)
NOOOO WHYYYY laugh.gif

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As usual
Who else to blame?

Why not china or iran?

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