Things seems to have calmed down a bit with majority of Wagner troops withdrawn

Putin resolved the issue in background probably?

Edit: Wah maybe not. Putin just publicly declared Wagner as organizing an illegal campaign.

This post has been edited by Etude8891: Jun 24 2023, 03:16 PM

As far as I can tell, Prigozhin main issue is that he is demanding to personally meet Shoigu and Gerasimov in Rostov to hold showdown talks on outstanding issues.

Nothing mentioned as far as unseating Putin or something like that

Although he did say if they refuse to meet him, he and Wagner group will march on Moscow tho

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 24 2023, 03:30 PM

u should watch this. he literally call for martial law, both shoigu n gerasimov to be executed for their incompetency, and 6k general in kremlin to go to ukraine and fight there.

its not a mere talk.

Full text of President Vladimir Putin's address to the citizens of Russia:

I appeal to the citizens of Russia, to the personnel of the Armed Forces, law enforcement agencies and special services, to the fighters and commanders who are now fighting in their combat positions, repulsing enemy attacks, doing it heroically.

I also appeal to those who were drawn into a criminal adventure by deceit or threats, who were pushed onto the path of a serious crime - an armed rebellion.

Today Russia is waging a hard struggle for its future, repelling the aggression of neo-Nazis and their masters. Virtually the entire military, economic and information machine of the West is directed against us. We are fighting for the life and safety of our people, for our sovereignty and independence. For the right to be and remain Russia, a state with a thousand-year history.

This battle, when the fate of our people is being decided, requires the unification of all forces, unity, consolidation and responsibility. When everything that weakens us must be thrown aside, any strife that our external enemies can and use to undermine us from within.

And therefore, actions that split our unity are, in fact, apostasy from one's own people, from comrades-in-arms who are now fighting at the front.

This is a stab in the back to our country and our people.

It was such a blow that was dealt to Russia in 1917, when the country was waging the First World War. But the victory was stolen from her. Intrigues, squabbles, politicking behind the backs of the army and the people turned into the greatest shock, the destruction of the army and the collapse of the state, the loss of vast territories. As a result, the tragedy of the civil war. Russians killed Russians, brothers - brothers, and all sorts of political adventurers and foreign forces, who divided the country, tore it into pieces, gained selfish profit.

We won't let this happen again. We will protect both our people and our statehood from any threats. Including - from internal betrayal.

And what we are faced with is betrayal. Exorbitant ambitions and personal interests led to treason.

To betray our country, our people, and the cause for which, side by side with our other units and subunits, the soldiers and commanders of the Wagner group fought and died.

The heroes who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, the cities and towns of Donbass, fought and gave their lives for Novorossia, for the unity of the Russian world. Their name and glory were also betrayed by those who are trying to organize a rebellion, pushing the country towards anarchy and fratricide. To defeat, in the end, and surrender.

I repeat, any internal turmoil is a deadly threat to our statehood, to us as a nation. This is a blow to Russia, to our people. And our actions to protect the Fatherland from such a threat will be tough.

All those who deliberately embarked on the path of betrayal, who prepared an armed rebellion, embarked on the path of blackmail and terrorist methods, will suffer inevitable punishment , will answer both before the law and before our people.

The Armed Forces and other government agencies have received the necessary orders, and additional anti-terrorist measures are now being introduced in Moscow, the Moscow Region and a number of other regions .

Resolute actions will also be taken to stabilize the situation in Rostov-on-Don. It remains difficult ; in fact, the work of civil and military authorities is blocked.

As the President of Russia and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, as a citizen of Russia, I will do everything to defend the country, to protect the constitutional order, the lives, security and freedom of citizens.

The one who organized and prepared the military rebellion, who raised arms against his comrades-in-arms, betrayed Russia. And they will answer for it.

And I urge those who are being dragged into this crime not to make a fatal and tragic, unique mistake, to make the only right choice - to stop participating in criminal acts.

I believe that we will preserve and defend what is dear and sacred to us, and together with our Motherland we will overcome any trials, we will become even stronger.


Источник: https://rusvesna.su/news/1687590476

The Big Boss has spoken.

Prigozhin addresses the public about his coup

he cant fire gerasimov n shoigu, cos by firing them, he indirectly say hes also at fault for the shitshow in ukraine.

now he double down on gerasimov n shoigu.

lets see how this played out.

either the army join the coup. or prigozhin n wagner is dead.

i definitely prefer the latter.

if you believe this guy, you believe Moskva is on her way to port as well

Wagner just "withdrew" to Voronezh

Putin just called this a mutiny and likened it to 1917 (ktards feel free to look that up)

u also have to understand how dictatorship works, why didnt putin fired off shiogu and gerasimov despite their obvious failures and incompetences in the ukraine war? because both of them are the only ones that can subdue wagner group, the key is not to let wagner group grow too powerful until it threatens putin's power, thats where the FSB and russian MOD comes to balance out the power and influence of wagner in russian military

if in the end wagner group grew too powerful and have full control over the russian military, then its game over for putin and another dictator will take over

don't forget, deputies have significant influence of their own
and all it takes to create civil war is a significant fraction of total power breaking away, such as 20, 25%

Russian civil war is definitely not something one could ever expect to happen in this modern post-Soviet era, but here we are

will we actually able to see literal plot of CoD 4: Modern Warfare happening (ultranationalist vs loyalist)?

50000 People Used to Live Here. Now It's a Ghost Town

Wagner group recruitment ads are being torn down

Russian regional leaders pledge support to President Putin, urging any of their citizens who have joined Wagner group to not obey the orders of Prigozhin

Ramzan Kadyrov gives his comment concerning the Wagner coup

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 24 2023, 05:44 PM

wonder who will win,

regional leader backing
nato, europa backing

wumao, putin fanboi need to start whiteknighting else communism will fall

This post has been edited by Nigmo: Jun 24 2023, 05:45 PM

Alright from what I gather so far today, might Wagner group be the Trojan horse?

Ukraine is awfully quiet to the point where this almost seem part of their planned counter-offensive. How curious.

A Rostov resident chastises a Wagner trooper

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1...521105532235779

Some /k might just be on the money that this could well be a lure trap for the Ukraine, imagine not moving in during a potential civil war to do max damage and retaking the desired territories.