well both sides is busy launching ATGM at each other but Ukrainian media is better, got clarity and color.

hmmm...
what he said is in line with what i thought too.

Ukraine has a precision range capability and a very obvious drone superiority in frontlines and these are actually doing quite well as we have seen past two week, munitions depo, field munitions depo, train logistics, troops staging area are being taken out behind the front lines.

Ukraine is chipping russian forces at the front and making sure supplies and reinforcements are being complicated as well. not saying Ukraine is not without its losses though, anti air protection is lacking still.

i am not military expert but just using simple logic and deduction, i would say the counter offensive is going according to how Ukraine military command may want or near.as it should be.

one key factor is only three out of twelve brigades are committed. it says a lot that Ukraine is using chisel and the hammer is yet to brought down. another key factor is advancing army can recover vehicles for repair or reuse especially those with mobility kills which defending army cannot.

the recent release footage from Ukraine are only some that probably doesn't violate OPSEC and it already shows more times destruction of russian forces where russia claims Ukraine is suffering enormous casualties but i seen only a few as posted. i am sure russia media will have no qualms about posting Ukraine losses first hand they have.

but we shall see, maybe i could be wrong too 🤷🏻‍♂️

the russians soldiers certainly look better equip than the tons of russians POW throughout the last two weeks that was captured.

i see you as a far more reasonable person for discussion even though you support the opposing side so no need to go all defensive about it.

while in the short term i don't think UA has able to solve the KA-52 8KM+ ATGM capabilities without bringing in some mobile AD cause Manpads just can't reach that far.

unlike the Kharkiv / Kherson offensive,
russians have been able to build up layers of defensive lines as you also said i think, these lines of defense are somewhat functional too.

anyone who expect this to be a rapid takeover is being ignorant whichever side they are part of.

i would say effective is because even with a few month of training, they are undertaking a combined arms offensive action that i am sure any military experts can say it is not easy, ESPECIALLY, without air cover. it takes a lot of willpower, discipline, and determination to actually perform offensive action under enemy fire, artillery, mortars and navigating minefield.

can you quote to me who exactly said "wanted Crimea by summer" cause i want to LOL at that person too.

well Budanov optimism deserve a LOL then.
also i don't think Ukraine can take back Crimea by force as i believe this war will end in a meeting room with concessions given depending on the outcome of the battlefield.

the article quoted here:
Budanov’s forecast for this year is that Russia will focus on occupying more territory in the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions. A renewed offensive from its forces stationed north of Ukraine, in Belarus, is unlikely, he said, and just an attempt to distract and divide Kyiv’s troops. He also said that “we must do everything to ensure that Crimea returns home by summer.”


i do agree that this is a foolish war but i don't agree who started provoking it first and i do agree NATO not exactly blameless.

yes, i think UA is having trouble with the KA-52 and i am not even sure if those mobile AD can hit targets like hover above treeline many kilometers away blurring between radar ping and landscape.

information warfare is very powerful
you are very right there. we all are in the war one way or another now and propaganda works both ways and both sides.

just for example,

lolol
the tweeter description doesn't reflect what was mention in the article.
edit: for those lazy read, what Zelensky said is no loss in territory after the offensive movement began.

This post has been edited by chaosneo: Jun 21 2023, 02:38 PM

it is not your fault, yes, DW put clickbait title.
please don't be baited next time

well you can't blame for this happening since russian MOD has a habit of making up lies, russian media has also a habit of putting fake videos, superimposed images, and of course... tons of smoking incidents.

no one is saying Ukrainian is not taking losses.

why are you salty over that? pleas continue posting videos and images of russian attacks and victories, it suits you better.

not only Ukrainian is saying so... 😂
but i think both sides are definitely taking losses than any wants to admit.

i would say Himars was a gamechanger.
it affected the russians enough to change a lot of their doctrine and quite a number of high ranking officers paid the price for it too.

where in tweet it says stagnant?
oh in case you have not been updated, there is a flurry of postings by russian telegrams that Ukrainian breach two locations and one is one of the first defensive line. waiting for pictures or videos for confirmation.

not sure if its the tons of explosive on the mine or design of the BMP, no crew would survive that.

finally manage to find the tweet but there is no any OSINT so wouldn't put too much into this hence i said until images or video so can be geolocated.

i wonder if this is what Prigozhin was rambling about.

you are right there.
that's why the Ukrainians are really strong, given hands me down stuff of 5 to 15 years, one or two generation ago of equipment and weapons, they manage to hold off the strong overwhelming russians during initial first year and repel back in battles of kyiv, kharkiv, and kherson.

well all the experts analysis and strategist, ex military seems to agree it is still probing.
possibly because only 3 or 4 of brigades is committed.

earlier this week, someone compare that it took 7 weeks or so to secure omaha beach during D Day..
edit: not omaha beach, some other beach head area.

right now we seeing this pattern in Ukraine...
probe probe,
didn't go through much?
bomb logistics more...
maybe probe some more...?

This post has been edited by chaosneo: Jun 23 2023, 02:39 PM

maybe they are... maybe they are not...

so far OSINT has manage to identify the three brigades that participated in the probing operations. analyst puts it maybe four brigades at most.

to give you an insight of how big is one brigade and when you take it from intel that leaked as well as from OSINT info, that there are TWELVE brigades, anyone would think also, where is the main force?



This post has been edited by chaosneo: Jun 23 2023, 03:23 PM