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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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KLthinker91
post Oct 17 2023, 09:02 PM

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It's expected. Look at the losses when Russia was attacking...Massive losses also. Ukraine would be foolish to think the same won't happen to them...

This war will continue as long as USA keep supplying weapons. Or till Ukraine ran out of men.

The biggest problem Ukraine has is that weapons supplied is dwindling... Basically only USA is still supplying on borrowed money. Germany is supplying a little more. The rest are just like token amounts for courtesy purpose.

This war is actually boosting economies of countries like Iran and North Korea.. by supplying weapons to Russia. They are buying most things from china instead. Then some are getting cheap russian oil... Lol...

So, this war is a strange war. Russia sells oil and gas to xxx countries who in turn sell them to Europe. Europe is basically funding this war. Unless oil and gas in Russia runs out, it will never stop.
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Ukraine is currently limited in its inventory and therefore also in its tactics
bear in mind that just 2 years ago Ukraine was using the same tactics and equipment as Russia, more or less, with the exception of a small brigade-plus of NATO-trained (but not NATO-equipped) troops

it takes time to change that - but the change is in process
the Dutch, Danes and Belgians are transferring several squadrons of F-16s, which again takes time to train pilots for
but once they arrive it will be a game changer as Ukraine can finally contest the air
it also opens the door for US F-16s

According to NATO doctrine, aerial superiority is a prerequisite for successful offensives

Ukraine isn't running short of manpower. they're now better equipped to conserve manpower with more NATO vehicles and precision guided munitions coming in. when Soviet-era vehicles blow up most if not all of the crew goes with it; when modern NATO vehicles are hit, crew survivability is much higher.

Ukraine is far from running short of weapons. It's just that new factories take time to produce new weapons. Quite a few production lines were only started up again in late 2022 or early 2023, and they take time to ramp up

the European nations provide significant support in kind and through the EU framework.
then also most nations are not bothering to transition to a war economy, unlike Russia. Why should they? just 10% of the US defence budget is enough to match the entire Russian wartime budget. there's no need to make the population suffer unnecessarily through a wartime economy... unlike Russians

we are still in a globalised peacetime system so the funding streams look weird, but that is how it is. you can argue that Russia is funding the war against itself also - it sells oil to China, who sells it to everyone else.

the war can stop anytime - Russia can give up.
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post Oct 17 2023, 09:10 PM

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say hello to ATACMS

the fantasy:

QUOTE(Catnip @ Oct 17 2023, 03:00 PM)
The Fall | The Russians Pummel Every Airfield In Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 2023.10.16
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the reality:



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post Oct 17 2023, 11:19 PM

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if it has arrived and being used, everything of target value between 250-300km from frontlines will be in danger. it just depends now on how good is AFU intel collection.


QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 17 2023, 09:10 PM)
say hello to ATACMS

the fantasy:
the reality:


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post Oct 17 2023, 11:20 PM

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The 1st Presidential "Bureviy" Brigade of the NSU destroyed a Murom-P surveillance complex in the Kupyansk region.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1713915071770820912

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post Oct 17 2023, 11:20 PM

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The 79th Air Assault brigade repelled another attack on their positions presumably the Avdiivka direction. Russians retreated with losses.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1713883540557811923

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post Oct 17 2023, 11:21 PM

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The 🇨🇿Czech 122-mm MLRS RM-70 armed with the Armed Forces of 🇺🇦Ukraine strikes 🇷🇺Russian positions

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/...919408932807006

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post Oct 17 2023, 11:21 PM

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Cluster ammo rains on a Russian soldier while filming the Avdiivka battle

In the second video, a Russian soldier is provided with first aid by Ukrainians who have captured him after being wounded with cluster ammo [ENG]

The wounds are impressive🔞

edit: only viewable through direct link due to blood and violence.

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1713859230036263261

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post Oct 17 2023, 11:49 PM

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Operation “Dragonfly”. Successful operation of the Ukrainian SOF to attack Berdyansk and Luhansk Airfields.

As a result, enemy’s losses are:
◾️ 9 helicopters;
◾️ 1 air defense launcher;
◾️ special vehicles;
◾️ ammo depots;
◾️ air strips were damaged

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reports. Bravo!

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1714247717327667363

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post Oct 17 2023, 11:51 PM

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A joint collaboration between the 80th air assault brigade and the 92nd mechanized resulted in a destroyed 2S1 Gzvodika, 2S9 Nona and Russian fortifications and personnel.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1713863353502753149

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post Oct 18 2023, 12:06 AM

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Pro-Russian source Rybar claims Ukraine attacked with a combination of GLSDB and ATACMS this morning at Berdyansk airport. According to him, a total of 6 missiles were launched of which 3 hit their target.

"An ammunition depot was hit, and several helicopters received varying degrees of damage," Rybar adds.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1714267061810090374

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post Oct 18 2023, 12:34 AM

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Apparently, the 🇺🇦Ukrainian Armed Forces used the MGM-140B ATACMS Block 1A (M39A1) ballistic cluster missile to strike the Berdyansk airfield.

This missile contains 275-300 M74 submunitions (already found at the impact site) and is capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 300 kilometers.

The missile is capable of being launched from the M142 HIMARS, M270B and MARS II launchers already in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/...256969265979901

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post Oct 18 2023, 07:01 AM

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Another Russian abandoned Z tank destroyed in the Avdiivka direction by the 110th mechanized brigade.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1713802779762860424

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post Oct 18 2023, 08:31 AM

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Russian infantry taking a beating in Avdiivka

https://twitter.com/JamesCottle15/status/1713923917084020820

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post Oct 18 2023, 09:25 AM

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The 14th Brigade of Operational Assignment (Chervona Kalyna) pushed out Russians from their positions in the Zaporizhzia direction with accurate artillery fire.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1714209819664531914

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Oct 18 2023, 12:19 AM)
if it has arrived and being used, everything of target value between 250-300km from frontlines will be in danger. it just depends now on how good is AFU intel collection.
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Fuuuuu ATACMS/goliath finally ONLINE!! In this war ohmy.gif
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The 2nd mechanized battalion of the Presidential Brigade repulsed a Russian attack in the Avdiivka area. Destroying infantry and equipment.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1714299819064201444

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I think we can confirm the use of ATACMS. This is reportedly debris from Berdyansk.

MGM-140A ATACMS Block I, M39(A1?)

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1714296780697768181

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Oct 18 2023, 12:34 AM)
Apparently, the 🇺🇦Ukrainian Armed Forces used the MGM-140B ATACMS Block 1A (M39A1) ballistic cluster missile to strike the Berdyansk airfield.

This missile contains 275-300 M74 submunitions (already found at the impact site) and is capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 300 kilometers.

The missile is capable of being launched from the M142 HIMARS, M270B and MARS II launchers already in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/...256969265979901

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Reported as additional footage of Berdyansk airport this night. Looking at the fires, its seems 3 helicopters are on fire (smoke coming from the left indicates a 4th might be on fire as well) while ammunition can be heard exploding in the background.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1714270127032799400


Longer version of the video from the attacked airport of Berdyansk. At the end, Russians even run away to exploding ammunition.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1714295882978398718

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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Oct 18 2023, 12:34 AM)
Apparently, the 🇺🇦Ukrainian Armed Forces used the MGM-140B ATACMS Block 1A (M39A1) ballistic cluster missile to strike the Berdyansk airfield.

This missile contains 275-300 M74 submunitions (already found at the impact site) and is capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 300 kilometers.

The missile is capable of being launched from the M142 HIMARS, M270B and MARS II launchers already in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/...256969265979901

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I read they got the M39 variant with 165 km range

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