My father is already 76. But he is an atheist or free thinker.

Any affordable funeral package to recommend?

Looks like the majority package is either Buddhist or Christian package.

Anyone attended a free thinker funeral service? How the service is like?

Hi, please refer to your PM. Thanks.

You can call nirvana and see what they have to offer? Idk as a secular person ayam don't give a shit how my body is handled after death, it's none of my business anymore, ideally I would like to have all my organs donated where feasible or maybe donate body to science (but I can't find options for this in Malaysia) and then just be cremated and thrown wherever but I guess it's up to next of kin, as a non religious person I don't care which religious rites they choose. Does your father himself care, that it has to be a non religious funeral for him?

In such a case, just cremate and scatter at sea. Kaotim

This is exactly what I intended to do for myself when the time comes. No need to burden anyone year after year with no end.

those 3rd party funeral house/parlour can custom for you, not nirvana though

Ok thanks. I think it will be great if relatives can still come and pay respect . But no need any prayer or any ritual or any singing..so far I haven't attended any free thinker funeral service.

Can save 15K for the prayers and at least 20K for the niche.

For free thinker , can I get Christian package? But on that day, there won't be any prayers, singing. Just for relative to come to pay respect.

nirvana is expensive, which defeat the purpose

Xiao En got.

nilai memorial have package for atheist if im not mistaken. or... convert to islam and they will take care of you. might even gali balik if u already buried elsewhere.

Make it as simple as possible and as cheap as possible.

Same for me. Not sure why die also have to be so expensive. I know a guy spend rm 2 million buy nirvana package. I rather use the money to help the poor.

Just cremate and scatter the ashes at sea or in favorite places. No need for ceremonies.

Nirvana has niche section for free thinkers. No religious symbols and markings, kalau tak silap.

https://medicine.um.edu.my/smp

Good idea

What TS can do is to rent a funeral parlour area in a temple (with cremation service) without any prayers.

Then you invite loved ones and friends to pay a visit for one last time to those who wish to look at him.

Then after that, donate the body to the above research centre.

Or if u don't wish to donate, then cremate the body and put it an urn in the allocated plot. You need to pay for the allocated plot.

Like Christian but without the cross. Just give flowers if you like or anything you fancy.

you can look into Kwong Tong cemetery, they have funeral parlour's for rent, affordable, got a/c, no a/c, Christian, Buddhist,
https://ktc.org.my/

This post has been edited by ycs: May 29 2023, 10:15 AM

don't scatter at sea lah, later fish eat it and we eat fish.

if you want simple, just look for those coffin shop, and ask about the processes and pricing for processing your father's body when he passes away. So later on you have a rough idea what to do if he does pass away.

Because when a person is dead, there are lots of procedure need to follow one, such as getting death certificate, apply a time slot in public crematorium etc. I think such process costs about 8-10k ?

Instead of scatter the ashes into the sea, suggest just buy a place in columbarium, less than 2-3k only..

Also, make you go to at the right place, means if your dad from kwong tong, then go to kwong tong cemetery, hokkien then hokkien cemetery..

Pricy but just check with Nirvana ba. I believe they know what to do if u tell them the requirements.

Can get free sea ash burial if sign up as cadaver "volunteer" for some organisation after death, if you father doesn't mind

I want do this too..

Free thinker, I think no need to do so many leceh thing. Just burn & throw the ashes into the sea.

Just tell the relatives when will the body be cremated. If they can make, they will come, if can't make it not need to wait.

If still care about funeral, then it is not free thinker / defect the purpose of being a free thinker.

Throw into the sea can be quite leceh if the family is not living near the sea. Also I don't think it's legal to litter anything into the sea. Better just dump into rubbish bin.

If scatter ashes into the sea, no need do funeral also can, right?

the Indians scatter the ashes in klang river

Donate body to science la. Can gib benefit to all

if your father is atheist/free thinker he probably against those paid ceremony/funeral event too, many ppl turn atheist/free thinker because of that

if he still stil well now better ask him opinion on this, he probably is more happy if you save the money for your own

if not mistaken you cannot simply scatter ash around (sea/land/etc), need to be at some designated area

Ya need help from them also to do those things. RM8k-RM10k is within our budget

Dumb into bin a bit over even though free thinker.

If the sea is to far, tanam bawah pokok la, jadi baja. Return the earth to the nature.

There's this thing called urn to store human ashes. We are talking about dead human here,not rubbish.

So for this scenario, after death & collect death certificate.
Then proceed to cremate and scatter ?
That's mean no more ceremony at all....
That's what my father want...
But I worry my relative , sam ku Lok por all question why didn't do this , why didn't do that... Niama..
Will ask my father to tell all his brother sister before proceed if not later blame me Cha siew chai

observed one such funeral b4 at a parlor. they just book a lot n place the coffin there. no deco no prayers no nothing. just let visitors to come n pay last respect however they want. no incense no burning anything. 1 day only. next morning angkut pigi cremate n the end.

guess u just pay for the coffin, the lot booking, transport service n cremation.

This post has been edited by Saitama: May 29 2023, 02:30 PM

simply fuck the funeral shit...wasting time and energy and money

just bring the body to jln kuari crematorium, pay the fees then told them to dispose the rubbish ash

long long time ago still remember they charge rm7 for everything. back then still using kayu + arang

As an atheist/free thinker myself, I don't want my ash to be stored in any urn. Best is scattered across sea/hill etc.

If can maybe shoot into the space so my ash can travel beyond our solar system

Cremate and spread by wind

i dont understand why wooden coffins here cost so much;

The urn won't fit all the ashes. Guess what they'll do to the excess.

Tzu chi is free thinker

Not Buddhist?

if you have land why not bury in your compound? not sure legal or not thought

A bit but they don't have the praying one like Taoist

Its Buddhist.

Everyone knows that

Tq captain obvious

But it's suitable for free thinker because less praying like Taoist

How do you know? Have you stored human ashes in urn before?

That's what you want. Not dead's relatives in this topic.
I'll say better just leave them to decide on their own.

Yes. A couple of times. After most of the ashes was put inside the urn, family members will use chopstick to pickup few bones and put into the urn. The rest will be disposed. Or can ask the staff to scatter at sea if you want.

This post has been edited by poweredbydiscuz: May 29 2023, 03:41 PM

In this case is that what TS family wants?
Did he specifically mention about disposing the ashes into rubbish bin? I didn't read any of such thing.

I was replying to the other person.

Can consider something like this:

https://www.facebook.com/naturalburialmalaysia/

Burning is a waste of resources really.

As what hantu said earlier above, there are govt crematoriums eg MBPJ below, MBSJ in Puchong etc.



Just contact for latest fee and process

I’m merely correcting the statement that Tzu Chi is freethinker, which is not, Captain Obnoxious.

told both my kids, if gua jalan, no disco songs, no pamer my body, just cremate and throw ashes into sea...

Well said.

Do they segregate the bodies buried there, or macam mass grave? If segregated, it's also wasting land.

Its not really a grave, the body and coffin gets absorbed back into the land and become nutrients for nature. So you're not wasting land, you're giving back to it.

Can the land be used to plant trees or crops?

Seems like not available in Malaysia yet? Coz all the posts are about oversea news.

That's the whole idea behind it

I'm also not sure if available here, that's why I said "something like this". Just to get the idea out there to TS. I'm not sure who in Malaysia can do it

Not workable here due to few issues:-

1) you need an gazette / alienated land for this. Coz if you simple bury the body at any land, ppl may mistaken it as the attempt to destroy criminal evidence / mistaken the burial as the crime.

2) the left over from the corpse ( the bones ) abit annoying. If the land is use for the growing, the land need to be ploughed , when it is being ploughed, the skeletons may surface. No farmer willing to works on the lands with so many obstruction.

The only way I see it possible maybe it will be something like Bukit Cina at Melaka. The whole area ancient Chinese tombs were covered by the tall growing rubber trees.

pretty sure he doesnt mind..

is it avaiable in penang ?

Penang got Xiao En? I only know the Cheras one got.

simply throw ur tulang very bad feng sui to ur future generation.

I remember something funny from nirvana or one of the other funeral parlours where they charged more for the atheist package compared to the Taoist or Buddhist package. Since I'm an atheist, I'll just take the cheapest one. Doesn't matter if it's Buddhist or Taoist.

Perhaps just go for no-frills basic package and ask for something that doesn't involve customary stuffs. Agree that it would be good for people to pay respect if possible, so a wake will still be good to have. If whoever you're planning this for is still around or able to speak - just check what his/ her preference on such matters. One of my relative actually said in advance that when he dies, just cremate and scatter his ash. Nothing else matters to him because he doesn't believe in life after death. When you're dead, you're just...... dead.

Hahahaha they tell you it's made of this wood, that wood iinm. There's also the cost of ornaments and finishing etc. These things really triggers you to think whether its necessary to pay premium for something better, since it'll be burnt after several days anyway.

maybe shopee will sell this one day like walmart