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TSyungkit14
post May 27 2023, 05:30 AM, updated 3y ago

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I want to ask for advice regarding the situation above title.

How did it happen?
I applied for a job in Jobstreet and had 2 round of interview. After that interview, I got a call that I was selected the role after a week. The Hr arrange a meeting to discuss the offer letter and salary on the next day.

I did make some discussion on when I should be on board and etc and that The HR agreed to the arrangement.

A week later, I got surprised that they reschedule another interview with me with another team manager and that round I did the same effort and already explain to the team manager but he was not impressed and directly said I am not suit to the role.i explain to him about the situation and that told to him to align with the Hr.

I got back to the previous recruiter and told about the situation, she said I will get a callback on thursday but there's was still no callback.
Yesterday was Friday, I did update them again yet no one replied.

My opinion:
By my view, I should just move on but all I hope its a respond for a final verdict before applying to another job.

As long there's no offer letter, any santa claus can claim as santa Claus.

Update: after 2 weeks of no respond ,I wasted my money to call this recruiter from China ,ended up she told me the position was on hold

This post has been edited by yungkit14: Jun 24 2023, 08:44 AM
TSyungkit14
post May 28 2023, 10:31 AM

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an advice sifu can give ?
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post May 28 2023, 02:03 PM

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I no sifu myself but most likely they had multiple candidates they were interested in and you weren't the best one, that's really all there is to it. You can ask them for feedback but there's not obligated to give it to you and most places won't.

All you can do is move on to another interview without wasting anymore time since the callback already missed.

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post May 29 2023, 10:32 AM

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Most probably internal issue within the company between the hiring manager (the one that want the vacancy to be filled in), HR and management.

It is quite rare for HR to move on to discuss & finalize salary, benefits & other terms if the hiring manager did not give consent.

Probably the hiring manager gave consent and go ahead to hire, HR do their stuff and then suddenly the management or higher ups disagree with hiring manager's decision. This led to another round of interview (which you had to attend).

Just move on to the next/future interview. Don't bother with their internal mess.
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post May 29 2023, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ May 27 2023, 05:30 AM)
I want to ask for advice regarding the situation above title.

How did it happen?
I applied for a job in Jobstreet and had 2 round of interview. After that interview, I got a call that I was selected the role after a week. The Hr arrange a meeting to discuss the offer letter and salary on the next day.

I did make some discussion on when I should be on board and etc and that The HR agreed to the arrangement.

A week later, I got surprised that they reschedule another interview with me with another team manager and that round I did the same effort and already explain to the team manager but he was not impressed and directly said I am not suit to the role.i explain to him about the situation and that told to him to align with the Hr.

I got back to the previous recruiter and told about the situation, she said I will get a callback on thursday but there's was still no callback.
Yesterday was Friday, I did update them again yet no one replied.

My opinion:
By my view, I should just move on but all I hope its a respond  for a final verdict before applying to another job.

As long there's no offer letter, any santa claus can claim as santa Claus.
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can you tell which company is this?
So people can aware and blacklist them.

Can clearly see there's misalignment internally and they are taichi-ing to shoo you off.
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post May 29 2023, 11:59 AM

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its bad etiquette but not unusual, thats why most people advice to never make any permanent actions before you actually sign your employment contract
TSyungkit14
post May 29 2023, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ May 29 2023, 11:35 AM)
can you tell which company is this?
So people can aware and blacklist them.

Can clearly see there's misalignment internally and they are taichi-ing to shoo you off.
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I cant directly tell but it's the opposite of team blue in pc world
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post Jun 1 2023, 04:08 PM

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your future employer is not professional in the recruitment process. seems that they are not even aligned. red flag..
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post Jun 23 2023, 03:35 PM

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Red flag. they are fickle minded. Just move on, find other job else where.
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post Jun 23 2023, 07:12 PM

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Just move on, you deserve better job.

One door closed another window will open. Don't give up.
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post Jun 23 2023, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ May 27 2023, 05:30 AM)
I want to ask for advice regarding the situation above title.

How did it happen?
I applied for a job in Jobstreet and had 2 round of interview. After that interview, I got a call that I was selected the role after a week. The Hr arrange a meeting to discuss the offer letter and salary on the next day.

I did make some discussion on when I should be on board and etc and that The HR agreed to the arrangement.

A week later, I got surprised that they reschedule another interview with me with another team manager and that round I did the same effort and already explain to the team manager but he was not impressed and directly said I am not suit to the role.i explain to him about the situation and that told to him to align with the Hr.

I got back to the previous recruiter and told about the situation, she said I will get a callback on thursday but there's was still no callback.
Yesterday was Friday, I did update them again yet no one replied.

My opinion:
By my view, I should just move on but all I hope its a respond  for a final verdict before applying to another job.

As long there's no offer letter, any santa claus can claim as santa Claus.
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As in the bolded part you stated, the previous manager was reluctant to hire you under his team. He threw you back to HR and ask them to reassign you to another dept.

Very common thing now in Malaysian unprofessional hiring ethics. No fixed and common decision. It already hinted to you that the company you applied to has a messy management so take caution before deciding to join them.
TSyungkit14
post Jun 24 2023, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 23 2023, 10:42 PM)
As in the bolded part you stated, the previous manager was reluctant to hire you under his team. He threw you back to HR and ask them to reassign you to another dept.

Very common thing now in Malaysian unprofessional hiring ethics. No fixed and common decision. It already hinted to you that the company you applied to has a messy management so take caution before deciding to join them.
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if hes reluctant ,then why make me go through 2 round of interview ?
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post Jun 24 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ Jun 24 2023, 08:43 AM)
if hes reluctant ,then why make me go through 2 round of interview ?
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They are unprofessional in hiring. Just move on mate
You deserve to work in a better company and team
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post Jun 24 2023, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ Jun 24 2023, 08:43 AM)
if hes reluctant ,then why make me go through 2 round of interview ?
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Indecisive and bad management obviously.

It hints to you already what kind of managers you'll be working under not a good future work environment. Later you might have serious conflicts with your superiors not keeping up with their promises and words.
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post Jun 24 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Jun 24 2023, 10:36 AM)
They are unprofessional in hiring. Just move on mate
You deserve to work in a better company and team
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i move on plus getting the conclusion already.. its just I'm surprise such a renown mnc can do me like this

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post Jun 24 2023, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(yungkit14 @ Jun 24 2023, 01:15 PM)
i move on plus getting the conclusion already.. its just I'm surprise such a renown mnc can do me like this
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I would say the hiring manager is not professional, and the HR involved is not strong enough to push back to the hiring manager.

Don't feel upset, polish your skills and if in future some other roles in that MNC comes up, they will hire you with big dollars.

Treat it as a challenge to make yourself stronger.
The more rejections you got, the more experiences you gain.
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post Jun 24 2023, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Jun 24 2023, 02:34 PM)
I would say the hiring manager is not professional, and the HR involved is not strong enough to push back to the hiring manager.

Don't feel upset, polish your skills and if in future some other roles in that MNC comes up, they will hire you with big dollars.

Treat it as a challenge to make yourself stronger.
The more rejections you got, the more experiences you gain.
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i got the similar skill but i just dont work in their environment ,that can go wrong too ?
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post Jul 6 2023, 05:07 PM

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MNC,/SME/CINAMEN,

sometimes all also same pattern one.

 

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