Hey folks, if you have a choice, which type of property would choose and why? There are pros and cons for each.

strata title landed for peace of mind.
neighbor issue is too complicated sometime to be handle...
i will have eyesore if neighbor want to renovate to some acquired taste design..

but like you said, pro and cons for both.

Individual freehold

All unit looking the same is so boring

Got extra money wanna extend out or do a balcony also cannot

Buy with so much money but cant do shit to ur exterior

Saying going for strate solve ur neighbour problem that is just unlucky

Even strate also got neighbour problems 1

When u old n pokai no pay security fees also no issues

But for strata need pay until enter coffin

Neighbour issue is worse at strata landed...

strata title having all same facade houses, and better maintenance landscape.

Anyway, the neighbor issue still exists in strata titles. It's just that strata titles are newer, so the house prices are much higher compared to 30-year-old individual landed properties. Therefore, the buyers may belong to a more richer group and civilized.

This post has been edited by StupidGuyPlayComp: May 16 2023, 01:52 PM

yes..i tend to agree as well.
but it wont be as bad with individual title which no one is governing at all right???

Individual title anytime.

I don't see any problem if my neighbour wants to extend however they like as long as it's within the stipulated guidelines of local council authorities.

Apart from that, I am also free to add on awnings, extend a part of my house, change the gates etc. to my own liking whenever I want.

Can't imagine myself kowtowing to the demands and rules of JMB in telling me what and what should not be done onto my house. Can't imagine the gateless concept as well in certain strata-landed houses (especially those who are having small kids - damn!)

individual title freehold.

that piece of land is wholy mine.

strata title more homogeneous outlook, more clean whereas for individual title can do freely. If one neighbors change front outlook, indirectly effect the front outlook of neighbors; heterogeneous outlook

Definitely individual title especially when you bought end lot or corner....

Individual free hold.

There is one time bomb for those who opted for the Strata title landed. The owners / buyers may not be aware, that the maintenance fees they are paying is not sustainable & heavily subsidized by the developers. When the developer finished developing the final phase, handed the responsibility back to MC & pack their belonging , the owners will start crying paying the maintenance.

Street lighting bills, landscaping / gardening, water features, etc = all these requires a lot $$$ to maintain. With landed units density so low vs high rise, be ready to fork out more $$ in future.

This post has been edited by nihility: May 17 2023, 09:24 AM

There was a saying:

Landed strata title, if future any leaking issues there's still management to gao tim everything for you, but for individual title, you have to gao dim yourself and need to fork out quite a lot of money to fix the problems.

Myself staying at old landed kampung house, individual title, recently faced leaking issues, and yes need quite large amount money to fix it, was thinking if strata title will give me a peace of mind for that? Also Strata title will have facilities to use?

What you all think?

If the lansi neighbour is jmb good friends, he can keep complaining you and you need to attend his complaint, more complicated.

Even strata title landed, leaking problem belong to the house owner, you still need fork out money to fix it.

MC gao tim ? it must be a sweet dream....you just wait for it to happen.

MC won't gao tim if leak is not under the common property. Similarly for the high rise, if the leak happened at your unit & affected the floor below, your unit need to bear all the cost to make good the leakage.

just a curious, for starta leasehold landed, the land lease renewal fees will higher? Since the road, public area belong to the owner community, not under government?

Yes, the whole MC will have to apply for renewal when the time comes. This is a ticking time bomb for leasehold strata high rise developments. Now there is none yet where lease expired. Just wait.... but freehold different.

Personally i prefer strata landed because JMB/MC control the landscaping, roads and security. And yes JMB/MC can sue owners to pay maintenance. When times are bad, such as the covid 19 MCO, many individual title housing taman cannot sustain security anymore and have to abandon because many refuse to pay. For me security is a must. Therefore landed strata can ensure that security is always there. Later on can upgrade fencing to electric fencing and installl CCTV just like a condo. Thus much safer. Nowadays at night nobody want to go walking in their individual title taman because of security reasons. But in a strata landed, can be much safer. Plus neighbours cannot simply throw bulk rubbish at any empty land in the taman.

If government want to take over your freehold land or house for infrastructures development… you also have to surrender it…

Of course, but that is like lightning strike.... very unlucky. But leasehold expiry is a sure thing

Is depend on neighbourhood of your Taman… my Taman is individual title with guarded fenced … the overall landscaping, guard house, security patrolling, CCTV and RFID access card all included… except swimming pool with club house … the only thing no good is renovation… some neighbours taste really no eye see… some very tasteful in architectural design … eventually.. still prefer individual title…

You still can apply to continue the lease period… in Selangor state .. just pay 2k to reset to 99 years… but if you want to sell to others… then the renewal will follow market fee

Strata means leasehold in kv means drop valuation over time. Plus the maintenance fee, that's another 15% unrecoverable value. So really depends on your accounting. But for sure win leasehold individual title if you aim simple life.

I choose strata hoping that some form of governance in maintaining the look and feel of the taman and the houses. But seeing that people can just reno as they want in strata landed projects, I am torn now.

just compare the leasehold renewal of strata title and individual title landed. The renewal is based on land size, the strata title land sure much much bigger than individual title property, so the renewal cost may be scary

My answer to your thread title would be developer inherited G&G (built intend) freehold individual title.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 16 2023, 07:42 PM

I will go for strata, at least lower chance to see ah long come pour red paint to neighbours in bad luck.. Security is key for landed i think nowadays

Without strata, normal Taman also can form own RA to act like MC… only difficult to take action on those reluctant to pay maintenance fee..

if budget not a constraint, strata.. else maintainence will only increase and you still have to pay it until you die..

but if you are super rich enough, individual title.. do whatever u want within your compound area..

That's the main issue with RA, strata already have the well-established law and is backed by COB. Anyway, the pros and cons are very subjective to individual preferences.

Confirm it's Individual title freehold 😀

Totally agreed just look at high rise Al gated and guarded are strata title yet many issue all around

Provided you could afford to pay for the services and maintenance.

If this case I don't really see the good in strata landed but seems like it's the new trend? So many new strata landed properties now

I have seen a lot abandonned guard post created by RA, possibly it is good at start, then few years later, those who pay may stop paying after seeing more n more ppl not paying..

Nowadays, many of the new projects' selling points revolve around landscaping. To maintain the landscape, it requires a strata title.

that's why it can attract young generations... wanna to have fancy landscape.,.....

but the building itself cannot reflect character of owner....

ranking.

1-individual title, freehold, prime area.
2-individual title, leasehold, prime area.
3-strata title, freehold, prime area.
4- strata title, leasehold, prime area
5-individual title, freehold, suburban.
6-individal title, leasehold, suburban.
7-strata title, freehold, suburban
8- strata title, leasehold, suburban

only consider strata if you willing to pay and regulated by Strata Act.

location will be above all consideration, even better if the area is matured and low crime rate.

last will be your wallet, buy only what you can afford.

for leasehold strata highrise, I doubt it will be even an issue by the time the 99-year lease expires. High rise buildings won't last a century. Most likely it will end up with an en bloc sale, even for freehold ones.

For strata landed, then yes.

Yup- damn true.
some people can feel very entitle and every small bit also wanna complain to MO and MO no choice gotto kacau you.
They will always put what is right, what is black and white and push over to MO to execute.
I always feel like, the common area is > for everyone to use, and for you, there is lots of restriction.


if individual- no MO, and lets tolerate abit. can bincang bincang and find a friendly solution.

You speak out the real things happen now.

I have friends who stay in individual title taman and the neighbours there always "chope" parking with flower pots and cones. There are a couple times i received a note on my car asking not to park there when i visited my friends . Things like this are regulated by JMB/MC in strata landed.

individual yes some time- got some nasty neighbours- some time you can't park at others area, but most time can- especially next to end lot/corner lot or next to the park

In stratatitle- u can only park within your area.
common area is no no. visitor also got restriction.
some have limited visitor parking - place like atas but visitor need to park some distant away and walk like 50 meters.


give you an example-
1 friend in Wisteria Rimbayu (strata) - Inside house got 2 car park slot, outside got 1. he is facing issue if his parents come over, husband and wife each one car and getting a car for for his son going to be 17 years old.
If non strata then can be innovative a little, and dont block others.

for those have more than 3 cars... is advisable to stay at semi D or bangalow.... is really annoying that some neighbors will park their cars in front of your house and some time got neighbors are reluctant to park at their own car porch ...and like to park at road side

a lot of leasehold expired has extended with resurface better road condition

the pros is usualy strata got nice landscape

like eco grandeur

wow amazing feel like living in New Zealand

but u pay the full price of landed and its only leasehold

friend want come over also abit leceh as guards also more strict

got good n bad

If got good JMB/JMC then is lucky... else it will become disaster.

Especially more complicated design = more higher maintenace issue.

in 10 years time we cannot predict but currently it looks stunning

when u come back home its like going back into your private high class area with nice trees n big pintu gebang welcome u

guard also raise hand salute u

feeling atas

You have a property there in Eco Grandeur, bro? Glad that you are happy there. Couldn't afford it right now, hahahahah!! Millions.

i wish i can spend for such leasehold landed

its ok it will be a life goal to spend without anythoughts

just that i went to their sales gallery n its all very grand

then the experience driving across the iconic bridge and dragofly lake also wow mindblown

u are paying not just the house but the landscaping as well

Well... lease hold -free hold another discussion ba.

yeah- nice design and looking good. but also yes- you are paying for it.
it is indeed a lot to pay- but many people dont mind to pay that to enjoy the quality of life.


Security- indeed leceh.
friend invite to go, i also lazy.... why so pah pai.....
feel like second grade citizen wanna pass to the imigresen right? dont feel welcome at all.

So places really need to wait 10-15 mins to clear, especialy got 1 or 2 visitor infront which is stuck.

CNY time even more kantoi.

Your visitors are experiencing it currently, the hassle to go in? Do you mind to share on which landed strata that you are staying right now, if you don't mind please?

Individual for sure.

Quality of neighbours is subject to what price range you purchase.

Individual 1mil range prop I have in my porfolio, still alot of small pieces of littering and cigarette buds at the tamans. Still the garbage not managed properly and simply put at front common area. And awnings installed sampai water dripping to neighbours side. And of coz the forever argument, the emotional imbalance of the paying vs non-paying neighbours. This alone will lead to slackness from the guards because of the difficulty to filter the real owners from the visitors.
And of coz as pointed out in this thread, some people just lack taste la in their reno.

I also happen to have half a mil strata landed, I just like it better, as Jacky Chan said, people needs to be managed (angkat kaki CCP but its true).

My personal preference, I will go for individual title only when I can afford bungalows, bangsar damansara heights, then ok I take care of my own security, neighbours are classy and educated abit, then it will make sense.

not my visitor.
i am the visitor....

one of it is Setia Eco Park...... need IC, need check booth, if got pre-register then faster, but depend on the few other visitor infront.

take note can be up to 20 mins if bad luck

One mil is a lot and normal at selangor and KL.
Try higher.