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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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post May 12 2023, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 04:12 PM)
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father of  bmw driver kena hentam kuat, head jahit 4 benang

victim family claimed not them sent ppl to beat him,

it was random public ppl hentam him

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/20230512/%e3%80...8a%a8%e7%b2%97/
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I don't approved of vigilante/jaguh kampong justice.

Hope the police manage to identify and charge everyone of them from the video footage. innocent.gif
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post May 12 2023, 04:28 PM

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Who is wrong in "Moto innocent RIP, hit by white BMW (PHU 88), ppl hentam BMW driver" lowyat forum discussion?

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Based on the information provided in the Lowyat forum discussion, it is difficult to say definitively who is wrong. However, it is clear that there is a lot of anger and frustration on both sides.

The people who are blaming the BMW driver are likely doing so because they believe that he was driving recklessly and that he is responsible for the accident. They may also be angry that the BMW driver did not stop to help the victim.

The BMW driver, on the other hand, is likely defending himself by saying that he was not driving recklessly and that he did not see the motorcycle until it was too late. He may also be angry that he is being blamed for something that was not his fault.
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post May 12 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 09:59 AM)

woman on moto RIP on the spot

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Finally a media that points out biker likely exit from junction before hit....
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:25 PM)
incident happened when motor already few meter away from the junction. BMW drive too fast lah. If the motor rackless the BMW should have knock hew at the junction not few meter away from the junction. BMW didn't brake at all. Not even got tyre skid mark.
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No driving/riding school ever teach anyone being few meter away from junction means he/she exited the junction correctly. You didn't stop at the junction before exit, you failed the driving/riding test.
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post May 12 2023, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 04:41 PM)
It's keretabodo vs motobodo. And it doesn't help when most /ktards are speedsters like keretabodo. So they are trying to say "it takes 2 to tango".
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You mean the BMW will still crash into the biker if the biker follow rules of stopping at the junction and exit only when traffic is cleared? blush.gif
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 12 2023, 04:44 PM)
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kek mcchin Roman Catholic iGamer

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post May 12 2023, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:49 PM)
how you know she didn't stop at the junction?
Maybe she did stop at the junction and saw the BMW still far away only exit. Or she saw the BMW is at the inside lane which suppose to turn left not going straight.
What I saw in the video is she already fully exit the junction and the BMW rear ended her bike.
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Kids are not advised to cross road by themselves because they lack the ability to judge the speed of oncoming vehicles.

I would expect a licensed road user to be better at it. Anyway, bad decision on the road can end in tragedy, whether not stopping when exiting junction or failure to judge oncoming traffic speed.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 04:51 PM)
Traffic is clear is subjective. Do you really wait until no cars coming before coming out of a junction? or you gauge the distance of the car and the speed limit (bear in mind there is solid stop line there) before coming out?
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Cleared as in safe to exit of course, which in this case not safe to exit.
Judging from the sambil lewa speed the biker was exiting and even straying into the middle of the narrow lane as the impact happened, very high probability the biker didn't bother watch out for oncoming vehicles before exiting the junction.
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 04:59 PM)
Actually, it's difficult to judge in this case, the motorbike already entered fully into the main road before getting rear ended. Normally this won't count as sudden entering lane as bike already completed turn.

In anycase, doesn't matter even if bike is right, she lost her life so no point saying "I'm right".
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Walaowei...... not sure how driving school teaches ppl nowadays, exiting junction properly is not just about whether you managed to fully exit, it's about you fully exit in a safe condition.

Getting hit upon fully exit is not how you supposed to do it. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 05:14 PM)
Yah yah you are the greatest, let me help you increase post counts biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 05:39 PM)
Father : Son don't worry about this case. Remember what our PM taught us, yes, Cash is King. With money, you will be free. All these pipits are just a little inconvenience. Don't worry about the BMW, we buy new one.

Son : Thank you Pa, you are the best.
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Why make baseless fiction like this?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 06:31 PM)
Agreed.

This shows kampung justice also happens in other race, not just M as ktards like to point out all the time.
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Sad regression.
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QUOTE(XP750 @ May 12 2023, 07:24 PM)
this is the case where dua dua pun ada salah

motor keluar rumah without looking, helmet tak ikat
BMW not paying attention
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Most are blind, they believe dead one must be blameless. Just like mosquitoes kids blameless, or the kid dead due to awek caretaker ignoring rules to exit junction also blameless. Emo ppl just ignore facts to please their emo.
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ May 12 2023, 08:23 PM)
polis tak dapat kawal keadaan,
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Remember Lowyat phone thief riot? Innocent driver and passengers also beaten up by rioters even though police officer around, claimed outnumbered by rioters…

Ppl who support mobsters or vigilante may one day enjoy the same. Emo ppl and low class society berpisah tiada.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 08:55 PM)
got different here,

basikal lanjak case, the driver obey all traffic rules (this is confirmed by the court)

while this case, the driver kantoi don't stop at white line

6Y6K

hope he don't need to wear diaper when out of jail.
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The fact is both party broke traffic rules, but emo ppl wanna suddenly okay with biker ignoring rules while exiting junction.

I will continue my unpopular stand here when fact is fact.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:00 PM)
the BMW driver should have stop at white line as well

anyway, you can summon the aunties for not obeying traffic rule

but BMW driver still kantoi
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Biker should have also stop at the junction white line before exiting, the rules on how to exit junction is to safeguard the user’s life and other road users as well.

In every other Motobodo thread hypocrite ktards will say padan muka motobodo, suddenly race change and many suddenly sing a different tune….
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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 12 2023, 09:08 PM)
That's because in cases which involve death, the fact the deceased broke any law is excluded as they already paid the ultimate price. They choose to focus on that instead of learning and teaching others how to prevent similar fates.

To them, justice for the dead > preventing death
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And that’s how the mosquitoes biker supporters behaved, totally ignoring the victims play their own part in the tragedy. Die liao so we ignore lah and race factors play important role in how ppl take side.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:16 PM)
No concrete proof that the moto didn't stop before the line which is well behind the CCTV view

You can say she mistaken the speed
But cannot for sure say she didn't stop

For the car you can say for sure no stop or slowdown
Unless you're saying he slow down from 180 to 100

No way a 15m stop to 100kmph can happen with that bmw
That case I fight till the end that the dead is not blameless
The sole reason why that incident happen

This incident, if the moto take center road, means can wack kau till dead lah?

She already on the road by the time of impact

The car unable to "see" is simply because of overspeed and didn't stop or even slow down at junction
See the top of this reply
No concrete proof
Where is the fact she broken the law?
Justice for the dead here is exactly preventing future death
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What lah concrete proof, the line the biker took, the way the biker unaware of the fast car, all indicate one thing.

To even bother to argue biker judge wrongly the speed of the car… u know how ppl judge oncoming speed? You need to observed for a period of time to correctly anticipate the speed. That’s why the rules is to stop and observe, not just slow down and determine the oncoming speed in milliseconds.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 12 2023, 09:21 PM)
So funny seeing arguments here. Fact is the car is speeding. That road is only with 30km/h.
Secondly, there is no blind spot there. Everything is clear. Even the place where moto turning also very clear.
There is quite a distance. Looking at the video, the woman is already out quite sometime at the middle of the semiD house.
The car obviously is not paying attention while speeding.
With the car dash cam that they hide, surely will have proof they saw the motor but bang head on
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Nobody even arguing driver not wrong, but having said that doesn’t mean the biker blameless. In the video, clearly the biker was exiting without a hint of surrounding, and there’s reason why exiting junction got rules to stop and observe oncoming traffic.

Everyday we encountered biker that simply exit junction, 99% of the time they manage to go home safely, 1% encountered another law breaking road users and end up in tragedy. By sympathising the dead and ignoring the fact doesn’t help in preventing future tragedy, becoz emo ppl think the reality will change to accommodate their emo… doh.gif
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:26 PM)
so, you tell me first, why BMW driver don't stop at white line?

simple question
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Simple answer, I already acknowledge the driver wrong from my very first comment.

So driver wrong, but biker also wrong but biker mistake cost her a life. Keep blaming driver while ignoring the part played by biker in the tragedy will help prevent future tragedy?

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