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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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post May 12 2023, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ss_izal @ May 12 2023, 10:18 AM)
wanted to wear full face helmet riding kapcai, but seems weird and unusual for malaysian. if big bike then ok, if big bike pulak wear half face nampak weird also
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You wear helmet for safety, not for recognition from others. Just go for full face lah. biggrin.gif
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post May 12 2023, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 01:26 PM)
some i see.  fasten, but for the sake of fastening it.
fasten but not secure.  too loose.

and for your safety, anyone wants to buy helmet.  please get those with double D ring fastener.
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It's very tightly fasten lah. The dangling strap is because the strap is very long, after fasten, the excess strap will be dangling in the wind.
Have u actually wear helmet before? blush.gif

I am law abiding and kiasi wan, even driving within my condo compound I will also put on seatbelt.
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post May 12 2023, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 01:36 PM)
Very true but I can't as it's getting worse if you can only see what I see everyday.
When I drive I am always careful and give riders all the space  they need, so that not only me that reaches home safely but they too.

When I ride, the amount of stress is crazy. I have to anticipate every inconceivable damn stupid thing when others are around, so that hopefully I can go home in 1 piece.

If I can follow the rules when I am a driver, I don't see why others cannot ? Bloody ridiculous. This case will most likely be over even before it started and nothing will happen to the BMW driver. Cash is King. Nabeh.

If only this BMW had stopped where the line was, the lady would not be dead.
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I rode bike for 10 years b4 quitting for car. I hope I won't have to revert back to bike ever again after seeing bikers from the point of view as a driver. sweat.gif

Bike too risky, it's like a gamble of life. I've pokai twice on bike, one time due to sand on the road, 2nd time due to speedometer cable came off and get caught in the front wheel, end up I 360 degree summersault and land in the middle of the road, luckily no car from behind... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 01:43 PM)
I'm not saying you lah!
so sensitive.  i was referring to others.

me never wear helmet?
I have one HJC full face Rhpa70, HJC IS17 and one Shoei GT-air2, all full face.

and for my mountain bike - I have one IXS Trail-Evo AM helmet, and one full face IXS Trigger helmet.
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post May 12 2023, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 12 2023, 01:39 PM)
solid line means stop. normally will have other road signs/markings too:

user posted image

Get ready to stop or give way is dotted lines:

user posted image
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I've never seen dotted line like this, is this photo from Msia?
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post May 12 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(JimmyX @ May 12 2023, 01:46 PM)
Haunted car
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must be expensive number plate hmm.gif
Would like to see dash cam point of view from this BMW, but I guess that unlikely to happen.
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post May 12 2023, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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.......then come out rock paper scissors...... tongue.gif
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post May 12 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:05 PM)
that's what i said earlier.
the biker was already on that main road few seconds before he came ramming her from behind.  no way that car didn't see her coming out.
but looking at the way he was speeding, i'm not surpised he couldn't even react to avoid hitting her.
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I think nobody dispute the fact that the driver is too fast, but still doesn't whitewash the very high possibility that the biker didn't look out for oncoming traffic and just happy go lucky exiting from that junction. The way the biker moved to the middle of the road before impact suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding and oncoming traffic.
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post May 12 2023, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:09 PM)
as a big biker, my advice to you is to always ride with the high beam.
if possible, change to a more noticeable exhaust system.  to make yourself more aware to other road users.
and change your horn to a bigger horn.  throw away that beep beep, get a real horn.  it helps a lot.
lastly, install a bike dashcam on your bike (front and rear cam).  anything happen, at least there is evidence.
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But in Msia, anything happened between bike vs car, auto car wrong wan from the abang police, so evidence not really necessary sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 02:13 PM)
no proof say the moto no care the car

she might look, the car far away

then turn in, go in front of the CCTV house, around 10m then the BMW hit her

the Junction BMW to The impact around 15m

so the speed the car is going, it will look way back when the moto arrive at the junction
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if she noticed the car, why she go into middle of the road right before impact? That alone suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding.
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QUOTE(dman @ May 12 2023, 02:15 PM)
The road leading to the housing junction are quite long.

BMW driver as usual will drives like lanjiao and cant stop on time or distracted with mobile or something.

I think the road before the junction need to put up traffic light (those with warning blinking yellow light) due to the very long road leading to the housing junction as cars will be in higher speed there.
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I hump would be more effective.
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ May 12 2023, 02:17 PM)
Izzit confirm that the moto came out from that junction? Becoz that could change the whole story.
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The only way to "confirm" is to get the dash cam footage from the BMW. But looking at how the biker stray from left to center of the road right after that junction, very very high chance the bike just exit from the junction.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:15 PM)
but here always firstly say motorbodo fault.
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ktards have differing opinion with abang polis mah.

Anyway, drivers need dashcam to protect themselves in case of accident with bike.
But bike no need dash cam evidence as abang polis always side with biker unless the driver can prove otherwise with dashcam footage (pray pray biker not in blind spot of the video). sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ May 12 2023, 02:27 PM)
Nothing can get away from "hypersonic missile"
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sorry ayam poorfag never drive hypersonic missile cry.gif
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 02:30 PM)
Not stray. Road design is such that the lane the deceased was exiting from actually enters into the BMW lane which is a Single Lane, it's because the houses have special curb design that takes up valuable road space until terpaksa stray into the BMW path of travel.
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That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:01 PM)
I need bro Imp Bron help as an expert witness. He is good with distance, time and speed.

The problem with accidents is speed differential.

The slow speed that the deceased was travelling when the deceased exited the junction, the deceased may not even seen that the BMW was there or the BMW may be too far away. In the deceased judgement if the deceased did see the BMW it would be too far away and it was safe to pass. Besides the BMW has to stop.

The HIGH speed that the BMW was moving in, the BMW would have covered so much distance in such a short span of time. Even after colliding with the deceased, the BMW was still unable to stop until further down the road.

If Imp Bron could work out those figures, it would be fantastic.
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police probably got dashcam footage from the BMW.

Anyway, driver definitely guilty. But if proven the biker also salah, maybe slightly less punishment if driver got good lawyer.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:06 PM)
A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.
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murder is criminal charge wor? can settle out of court?
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QUOTE(zenjet @ May 12 2023, 03:15 PM)
Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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Was replying to "murder case" comment bro. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 12 2023, 03:41 PM)
From bystanders words, the car memang play phone while driving and not paying attention to the road. 100% car's fault.
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Bystanders so awesome can see what driver doing in a fast moving car? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(daniel2006 @ May 12 2023, 03:49 PM)
seems like the motor came out from junction without stoping.
just like that motor + truck in Telok Gong Klang a month ago.
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yup, better than previous FB video taken down.

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