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post May 12 2023, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:32 PM)
I can also say that the moto waited 5 sec at the line

And at that time the car is even further away

2.5 sec is 70m
5 sec is 140m

Added together would mean 210 m away

So a 3-5 sec to judge a car that 200m away whether is over speeding or not, can be hard

But for me to say that , means is not concrete cause there is no data

But the face is always there, there is line that bmw should stop, he didnt as there is no possible way to get to that speed from 0 with only 15m distance

So the car is entering the junction at high speed

If say to slow down, means it was even higher speed before that
But that is just conjecture at this time
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Again, nobody disputing driver speeding…
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post May 12 2023, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:20 PM)
Don't lump everyone together

For me facts is fact

Some are unrefutable
Some maybe unknown

But you keep spewing shites is a fact
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Until there is evidence that counter what the existing video indicate, I see no reason to simply put “innocent” when existing video show otherwise.

Suddenly it’s Chinese and all of a sudden most who would normally comment padan muka Motobodo is suddenly white knight in shinning armour… whistling.gif
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post May 12 2023, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 12 2023, 09:52 PM)
oh ya, I encounter a lot of time. just exit and expect you to slow down.

from the video I see same also.

exit, then riding slowly like father mother road.
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There are many such road users, most of the time their strategy works when most other road users are law abiding. There are many road users that drive/ride totally oblivious to other vehicles, like day dreaming.

The day they met equivalent law breaker, then bye bye…
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post May 12 2023, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:57 PM)
no, my dispute is that the aunty also stop for the line

and how she stop at the line for 5 sec means the car is further away, so she felt she can enter the road
thus can say she would have a hard time to judge whether the car is over speeding or not before entering the junction

but you cannot say she didnt stop because she wouldn't go if the car is speeding so much

velocity in the car is something that is on going

but all this is conjecture
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The way the biker exit the junction in a sambil lewa way and also straying to the middle of the narrow lane indicate she totally oblivious to the approaching car.
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post May 12 2023, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 12 2023, 10:21 PM)
I refrained from bringing that up because the same fellas can't see the correlation but rather argue semantics. Prevention of death should be from all parties but if you are more vulnerable, it is in your best interests to put more effort into it. But they see this as shifting blame instead of survival skills. Applies to other aspects of life as well.
Well said.

I noticed the car's behaviour on 1st viewing. Only after after reading comments I rewatched and noticed the lady appeared to be coming out of a junction.
Chose not to bring it up as my opinions on road stuff on /k are very unpopular anyway. Already mentioned BMW clearly wrong but I'm still BMW plotektor somehow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See how different people have different perspectives and angles. We are here to discuss and learn from each other. But many are here to reject other perspectives and shift goal posts.

I've learnt to notice if another road user is not paying attention, especially when I'm coming out of junctions. Don't wanna get T-boned by reckless driver because I value my life.
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Many emo ppl logic, either u totally acknowledge driver wrong or u plotek driver. There’s no other scenario.

Me dumb dumb say the unpopular view biggrin.gif
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post May 12 2023, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ May 12 2023, 10:29 PM)
but any sane or undistracted driver will either brake, or overtake her.

unless the driver have the intention to ram the rider
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I agreed driver wrong and speeding from my very first comment.

But having said that, doesn’t nullify the video showing the biker probably exiting the junction in an oblivious state.
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post May 12 2023, 10:58 PM

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TV news reported 6 persons arrested for the mob, but all released on bail afterwards.

Lesson to any vigilante wannabe.
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post May 12 2023, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 PM)
so what does that bring? you wanna summon the auntie for not stopping at juction?  shakehead.gif
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There’s lesson to be learnt, just like Stormfurry video.
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post May 13 2023, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ May 13 2023, 12:03 AM)
Technically she was not wrong as the car is supposed to stop there.

From looking at the white line and everything, there is clear indication that the car is supposed to stop 

The lady probably assumed that cars will be stopping or slowing at that junction.
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From the video footage, it’s clear she wasn’t even aware of the oncoming car.
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post May 20 2023, 09:56 AM

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