oh hohoho u dont know alot malaysian's dont know white line = stop

i everyday have to pass by a t junction that has no "main" road.

all sides got a white line, but guess what.

those going straight ingat theyre on the main road, and have the right of way.

just jalan only. i am just waiting for 2 going "straight" people to clash only then see how they argue.

some not even slowing down to look at all.

Conclusion, both also wrong. But many emotional ktards die die wanna plotek TS title "innocent biker". I wonder if it's awek instead of amoi, will the replies be the same...

Something is wrong about having the stop line (for BMW lane) here. Usually such stop line for traffic at major road exists only at junctions with traffic light. The vehicle from minor road must stop and yield.

Imagine you were driving there - are you really going to stop behind the white line? Conlanfirm kena butsek.

The problem with those white line for main straight road is that road users unfamiliar with such road would most probably fail to slow down at the white line until too late.

I'll play the devil's advocate.

Let's swap vehicle type: BMW the one exiting from the minor lane and moto was coming straight from major road.

Motor hits car and RIP. Who is wrong now?

I will also honk 9 motobodo that came out of junction assuming the world revolves around them.

I mean the lines in front of the 3 huge houses. Shouldnt it be a straight dashed line instead of following the contour of the curb. Anyway, what do I know. Maybe different codes.

The one you posted is new view kan? Why talk about pre 2018 when the accident happened in 2023?

Don't you find the white stop line strange and not supposed to be there? Who's supposed to stop and who's supposed to have right of way if both junctions have stop lines and no traffic lights?

That white line means "get ready to stop" or "stop"? I never knew we have a "get ready to stop" white line.

And BMW was going straight, not turning kan,

Again, does that white line mean "stop" or "slow down" or "get ready to stop"?

Very true but I can't as it's getting worse if you can only see what I see everyday.
When I drive I am always careful and give riders all the space  they need, so that not only me that reaches home safely but they too.

When I ride, the amount of stress is crazy. I have to anticipate every inconceivable damn stupid thing when others are around, so that hopefully I can go home in 1 piece.

If I can follow the rules when I am a driver, I don't see why others cannot ? Bloody ridiculous. This case will most likely be over even before it started and nothing will happen to the BMW driver. Cash is King. Nabeh.

If only this BMW had stopped where the line was, the lady would not be dead.

I said this in another thread, but ktards argued with me 10 pages that you don't need to stop if there's no oncoming traffic.

You must come to a full stop, whether there are other vehicles or not. 99% of Malaysians do not do that. When they see no incoming vehicles, they go d.

Those fools are wrong. Try to do this overseas and see whether you would get a saman.

Fully stop is required to ensure that you pay full attention to observe any traffic on other roads, with or without traffic, for safety reason.

I read earlier posts got this word powiis, but what the hell is that ?

Thats the thing about malaysia road design...suka hati buat line jer but when accident then dunno who at fault

Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?

car driver wrong, if he didn't stop at white line

but moto driver also wrong, cause she also need to stop at the junction to look right before turning out. no video to prove but i doubt she would turn out if she saw car speeding

jgn buat bodo, dua dua ade isuue.

tak payah whitewash motobodo.

PS. bukan whitewaste la bangang, suru berlajar main lanjiao...ini la...

got this from fb comments. very much confusing.

Manyak detectives in /k

So the road was upgraded and the straight (main) road was extended. And yet, the stop lines were still maintain as it was before.

Just checked google street view. Looks like there's no warning sign that there's a junction ahead along the new widen stretch.

For sake of discussing what went wrong, motorists shouldn't be faulted if they didn't stop. They are on the straight main road, would be ridiculous to expect drivers to slam on the brakes when they saw the white line from a near short distance away.

For sake of the accident (and how the investigating officer would see it too), it is reckless driving.

Why? I have only see the photo of the point of accident (when the motorcyclist was hit) and not the video. Imho, the motorbike is already directly in front of the car. The car hit her directly from behind.

Ok. Not going to comment more as this will be a case in court.

Section 41, reckless driving causing death, at least 5k5y.

seems like the motor came out from junction without stoping.
just like that motor + truck in Telok Gong Klang a month ago.

got someone i know who lives around there, mentioned about it.

That's mentioned by mcchin earlier. I told him normally such stop signs at all junctions are present only at junctions with traffic light, not this junction without traffic light. Takkan everyone stop and play scissors, paper, stone to see who moves first?

He said the solid line means slow down, to which I asked for confirmation (because I didn't know we have road marking like that which represents "slow down" instead of "stop") and then he asked me to ask JPJ pulak.

How to race like that?

If we compare with SKT case:

1. BMW cannot say night time very dark cannot see moto.

2. CCTV show BMW clearly speeding.

3. BMW cannot say moto not supposed to be on the road.

4. Moto wrong for not wearing helmet properly and maybe didn't ride properly, but if BMW didn't drive so fast, moto rider probably didn't die.

kek mcchin Roman Catholic iGamer

It wasn't safe to enter the lane, not about who entered 1st. Still considered as 'sudden entering'.

If about who entered lane 1st, if I cross road on foot and car bang me is the car at fault? I fully entered the road already.

Regardless who is at fault, biker lost her life. Could've been prevented from both ends, especially the side which has higher risk of injury.

Walaowei...... not sure how driving school teaches ppl nowadays, exiting junction properly is not just about whether you managed to fully exit, it's about you fully exit in a safe condition.

Getting hit upon fully exit is not how you supposed to do it.

what you say don't matter , because what happen is obviously the car did not stop and the people has died , u cant just say oh there's a white line and every car will stop automatically and i can just go out with a free of mind without looking anything coming or not that's just having the wrong mentality especially as a motorcyclist we have to be extra careful on the road because we are very vulnerable on the road..

No need maths so much. If car has to brake for moto entering, it wasn't safe for moto to enter the lane.

Regardless who is at fault, who will kena kemek when shit happens?

Too many only look at who is right or wrong in eyes of the law, ignoring whether you'll be alive after the fact.
Now the moto lady cannot go pangsai ever again, does it matter if she is right? BMW driver can still pangsai in jail.

Nobody stop, who pays the highest price? Metal box or skin and bones?

Bodo don't get the point.

Wait, he said he has just done teaching? He is a teacher at POWIIS is it?