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post May 9 2023, 06:27 PM, updated 2y ago

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Intel Layoffs Announced After Company Sees Largest Quarterly Loss Ever
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2023/05...fs/70197173007/

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A wave of layoffs continues to rattle the tech industry, with semiconductor chip manufacturer Intel on Monday confirming that it plans to cut its workforce to reduce costs.

The company declined to share how many workers would be affected but said the layoffs would take place across the company.

“Intel is working to accelerate its strategy while navigating a challenging macro-economic environment,” the company said in an emailed statement. “We continue to invest in areas core to our business, including our U.S.-based manufacturing operations, to ensure we are well-positioned for long-term growth.”

Intel last month reported its largest quarterly loss in company history amid a slump in personal computer sales. First-quarter net loss was $2.8 billion and revenue was down 36% year-over-year.

Despite the loss, the company paid out $1.5 billion in dividends.

Reuters reported the Santa Clara, California-based company cut employee and executive pay earlier this year. And The Wall Street Journal in October reported that Intel was beginning targeted job cuts and aimed to reduce costs by $3 billion in 2023.


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QUOTE(Kim Sim @ May 9 2023, 06:28 PM)
Please cut Malaysia 50% - 100%.
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So you wanna increase our unemployment?
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Pls cut malaysia... Dulan ppl thought working in intel very lanc
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Intel not earlier told invest rm30b into MY, why need to cut MY. They cut the expensive US angmo and hire more MY lah
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Layoff is inevitable as company would rather keep cash to keep shareholder happy amid high interest rates ..because they know well people wouldn't be on spending spree and no point to keep the employees where sales will be lower

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QUOTE(robotking123 @ May 9 2023, 06:48 PM)
Intel not earlier told invest rm30b into MY, why need to cut MY. They cut the expensive US angmo and hire more MY lah
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Cheaper to hire slaves in MY.
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fantasy1989 affeted or US/EU/UK teams again?


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Lets say average annual salary at Intel is 150k.
1.5bil/150k.. that can hire 10k employees for a year.

Intel should forgo dividend

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fantasy1989 affeted or US/EU/UK teams again?
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 9 2023, 07:13 PM)
fantasy1989 affeted or US/EU/UK teams again?
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slight different compared to last round

thats all i can share ..for now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 07:35 PM)
slight different compared to last round

thats all i can share ..for now  biggrin.gif
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Which level? Share la. Also nothing pnc about layoff.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 07:35 PM)
slight different compared to last round

thats all i can share ..for now  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 9 2023, 07:45 PM)
Which level? Share la. Also nothing pnc about layoff.
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 9 2023, 07:45 PM)
Which level? Share la. Also nothing pnc about layoff.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 9 2023, 07:53 PM)
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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wait for awhile more .. i need those external news to "save my ass" laugh.gif

if i share more later those newspaper person take my quote then HR director will asura strike me

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Intel CEO use what excuse this round
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 07:35 PM)
slight different compared to last round

thats all i can share ..for now  biggrin.gif
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asia many kena? sad.gif
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QUOTE(Muchafaka @ May 9 2023, 06:47 PM)
Pls cut malaysia... Dulan ppl thought working in intel very lanc
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 9 2023, 08:16 PM)
Intel CEO use what excuse this round
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actually is kind of expected 1

thats why those lead or manager folks get early pay cut at early/mid of Q1 2023 https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-p...tm_medium=email

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 9 2023, 06:44 PM)
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Yes! Yes! Yes!

Bwahahhaha.... Not like I got anything since Intel opened in Malaysia anyway.. shutdown only la, at least then got wayang to watch.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 08:32 PM)
actually is kind of expected 1

thats why those lead or manager folks get early pay cut at early/mid of Q1 2023 https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-p...tm_medium=email
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Just to keep shareholders happy? Welcome to corporate world I guess.
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 9 2023, 08:37 PM)
Just to keep shareholders happy? Welcome to corporate world I guess.
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think it in another perspective

if you dont keep it rolling..we might not still seeing ~USD30 today

it might dip all the way to USD20 because "we dont keep shareholder happy"

that time employee holding RSUs will "rugi" even more


just like if employee A holding 1000 unit of RSUs aka 30k USD ..become 20k USD

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 08:45 PM)
think it in another perspective

if you dont keep it rolling..we might not still seeing ~USD30 today

it might dip all the way to USD20 because "we dont keep shareholder happy"

that time employee holding RSUs will "rugi" even more
just like if employee A holding 1000 unit of RSUs aka 30k USD ..become 20k USD
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If Pat still cleaning up after Brian, shares will still drop either way
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ May 9 2023, 07:10 PM)
US Ang mor kena tua kii!
Cheaper to hire slaves in MY.
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Inhell forced labour... Lol
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It's an economic cycle, plus worsened by the US political madness.
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QUOTE(delon85 @ May 9 2023, 08:54 PM)
If Pat still cleaning up after Brian, shares will still drop either way
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but with this ; atleast now we dont see any big movement on stock (yet) ; although they claimed biggest loss in history

if normal time ..stock should went to holland (especially US stock)

if u ask my personal opinion ..if stock dip 8% ..my realized loss for upcoming stock is more than this few month punya salary cut sad.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 07:35 PM)
slight different compared to last round

thats all i can share ..for now  biggrin.gif
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penangite can get vss?
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 07:35 PM)
slight different compared to last round

thats all i can share ..for now  biggrin.gif
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That's...... not reassuring at all

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 08:00 PM)
wait for awhile more .. i need those external news to "save my ass"  laugh.gif

if i share more later those newspaper person take my quote then HR director will asura strike me
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wish I could save mine cry.gif

QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ May 9 2023, 08:23 PM)
asia many kena?  sad.gif
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inb4 israel no kena

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 08:32 PM)
actually is kind of expected 1

thats why those lead or manager folks get early pay cut at early/mid of Q1 2023 https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-p...tm_medium=email
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But the other day say wanna remove cut by Q3 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 08:00 PM)
wait for awhile more .. i need those external news to "save my ass"  laugh.gif

if i share more later those newspaper person take my quote then HR director will asura strike me
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your director know your /k name? Nobody will strick u la.
If u say abit different, last time is grade 8 n above, now is what 7 and above?
PM me hows the package.
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QUOTE(commonsense @ May 9 2023, 09:14 PM)
penangite can get vss?
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 9 2023, 09:14 PM)
That's...... not reassuring at all
wish I could save mine  cry.gif
inb4 israel no kena
But the other day say wanna remove cut by Q3  sweat.gif
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relax...

But the other day say wanna remove cut by Q3  sweat.gif
>Yup


QUOTE(kopiride @ May 9 2023, 09:17 PM)
your director know your /k name? Nobody will strick u la.
If u say abit different, last time is grade 8 n above, now is what 7 and above?
PM me hows the package.
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as long as you login with your inhell pc before ..they can know (especially if your comment reach legal team)

unless u been 24/7 using incognito mode to see lolyat for your entire career

>If u say abit different, last time is grade 8 n above, now is what 7 and above?
Just see that website detail for reference https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-p...tm_medium=email

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With AI coming, software team will be the main target for chopping?

As in Google, Microsoft, Twitter, and Meta?


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 08:32 PM)
actually is kind of expected 1

thats why those lead or manager folks get early pay cut at early/mid of Q1 2023 https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-p...tm_medium=email
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but those pay cuts and quarterly bonus etc, didn't save them anything? Now instead of cut pay become cut staff? those effected by the pay cut now get lay off ? That's like slowly killing you.
should do more pay cuts across for all grades what. And more pay cuts.
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Masih pay dividen and top guns still ambil bonus kan?
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 09:19 PM)
no comment yet
relax...

But the other day say wanna remove cut by Q3  sweat.gif
>Yup
as long as you login with your inhell pc before ..they can know (especially if your comment reach legal team)

unless u been 24/7 using incognito mode to see lolyat for your entire career

>If u say abit different, last time is grade 8 n above, now is what 7 and above?
Just see that website detail for reference https://www.semianalysis.com/p/intel-cuts-p...tm_medium=email
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 9 2023, 09:39 PM)
but those pay cuts and quarterly bonus etc, didn't save them anything? Now instead of cut pay become cut staff? those effected by the pay cut now get lay off ? That's like slowly killing you.
should do more pay cuts across for all grades what. And more pay cuts.
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It's very stressful to talk to your overseas colleagues yesterday and today they're gone + all the work/contribution goes to the toilet
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intel penang project will delay & slowdown to conserve cash
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ May 9 2023, 09:45 PM)
Masih pay dividen and top guns still ambil bonus kan?
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And if your company makes a loss, you still get paid also kan?
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sos?
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QUOTE(vexus @ May 9 2023, 10:07 PM)
intel penang project will delay & slowdown to conserve cash
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sos?
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How's the severance package for mnc? How many months salaries
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QUOTE(MrChubbyChocobo @ May 9 2023, 10:14 PM)
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 9 2023, 09:39 PM)
but those pay cuts and quarterly bonus etc, didn't save them anything? Now instead of cut pay become cut staff? those effected by the pay cut now get lay off ? That's like slowly killing you.
should do more pay cuts across for all grades what. And more pay cuts.
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>should do more pay cuts across for all grades what

hard la ..imagine grade 3 n 5 employee that having family ..suddenly chop u 5%

you will be surprised.. in Malaysia..there are many 40+ senior that is g5 g6 smile.gif


thats why only certain grade above kena

in Malaysia u still can choose to opt in or opt out (because of our local law) ; but US is terus kick in..US even slash your employee 401k (something like retirement fund)

thats why eventhough no layoff ..some ppl found job then also lari

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Took chips act money where can simply layoff us workers. Later kena drag to capitol hill again
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 10:18 PM)
you will be surprised.. in Malaysia..there are many 40+ senior that is g5 g6  smile.gif
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how come 🤔
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 9 2023, 10:25 PM)
how come 🤔
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they prefer stagnant and routine job
in the end they become essential and not getting prioritize employee

quite normal on manufacturing side
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 10:27 PM)
they prefer stagnant and routine job
in the end they become essential and not getting prioritize employee

quite normal on manufacturing side
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ic. in rnd hard to be stagnant. 😂 always kena push even though liat. 😂 cuz always got new things to explore. never ending.

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 9 2023, 10:29 PM)
ic. in rnd hard to be stagnant. 😂 always kena push eventhough liat. lol
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yup..unless u move to non technical roles like hiring manager ..lab manager etc ..then maybe still can "cari makan" sikit
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 9 2023, 10:27 PM)
they prefer stagnant and routine job
in the end they become essential and not getting prioritize employee

quite normal on manufacturing side
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whats the diff between essential and prioritize employee?
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Yea, just cut Intel Malaysia 100% and close down business here. Cost too high compare to other countries in same region anyway.
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 9 2023, 11:32 PM)
whats the diff between essential and prioritize employee?
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someone that doing important or no ppl want to do punya job

but someone didnt plan to step up further like learning/owning new thing

in the end your manager will focus promotion to your friend that willing to step up n learn


thats why someone very hate/against towards automation or AI guy..as their routine job might potentially get replaced

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Usually MNC layoff, their staffs very happy waiting for VSS. Especially those with many years. Some even ask their team lead to recommend them.

But this round not sure easy to get a new job or not.
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i guess it is always the norm. save the top people by paying out BIG dividens despite the company BIG losses and cut the people at the bottom.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 9 2023, 06:44 PM)
So you wanna increase our unemployment?
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Mostly conquered by type of race in this company...so it doesn't matter
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QUOTE(carnby77 @ May 11 2023, 09:42 PM)
Mostly conquered by type of race in this company...so it doesn't matter
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Which one brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(mick84 @ May 10 2023, 09:16 AM)
Usually MNC layoff, their staffs very happy waiting for VSS. Especially those with many years. Some even ask their team lead to recommend them.

But this round not sure easy to get a new job or not.
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if 50 or 50+ then happy

but if early 40 and not technical enough will stress gila


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QUOTE(Dweller @ May 11 2023, 09:40 PM)
Foveros how?
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still got..

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got few senior leaders in DEG is leaving Intel.
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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 9 2023, 06:44 PM)
So you wanna increase our unemployment?
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go see intel hire who more in msia..LOL. msian?? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(carnby77 @ May 11 2023, 09:42 PM)
Mostly conquered by type of race in this company...so it doesn't matter
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10 years back maybe. unfortunately their previous CEO's introduced the diversity hiring on URM which changed things. I heard each department need to fulfill certain quota of URM.
Extra bonus given to referral for successful hired URM.

https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-diver...y-report-2017-8
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 11 2023, 09:57 PM)
got few senior leaders in DEG is leaving Intel.
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Wow so many entitled racist supremist r wishing for IntelMY to collapse even though semicon is so important to our economy just becos their kind r not working there. I hope we dont have too many of such bodoh otherwise country is doomed.
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got few senior leaders in DEG is leaving Intel.
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So penaang site affected?
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QUOTE(commonsense @ May 11 2023, 10:05 PM)
So penaang site affected?
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What do u mean by kampung?
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organization

inside intel got many organization..some org expand

some org cut

it depend on how they adjust their business strategy


just like
if company A decided to focus on chip design then outsource to tsmc ; then R&D hiring , manufacturing potong
if company A decided to focus on product shipment and adopt external design; then manufacturing hiring/expand , R&D cut


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QUOTE(MGM @ May 11 2023, 10:02 PM)
Wow so many entitled racist supremist r wishing for IntelMY to collapse even though semicon is so important to our economy just becos their kind r not working there. I hope we dont have too many of such bodoh otherwise country is doomed.
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InHell has been giving me hell for the past few weeks.
But it pays the bills so me no care that much
Those are wumaos BTW
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not sure i am right.

in the DEG ie rnd teams may be dominated by chinese while in manufacturing is dominated by malay?
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if 50 or 50+ then happy

but if early 40 and not technical enough will stress gila
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Especially if got family and children to feed not many places you can jump to. AMD for instance don't have priority taking in ex-Intel staffs unless you can wait a year and try?
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Especially if got family and children to feed not many places you can jump to. AMD for instance don't have priority taking in ex-Intel staffs unless you can wait a year and try?
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not sure i am right.

in the DEG ie rnd teams may be dominated by chinese while in manufacturing is dominated by malay?
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no longer the case

especially hired so many foreign talent

many whole family come to malaysia

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no longer the case

especially hired so many foreign talent

many whole family come to malaysia
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wow International school must be doing good in Penang
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but usually that is their stepping stone only

once they found US headcount they will k bye
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but usually that is their stepping stone only

once they found US headcount they will k bye
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no longer the case

especially hired so many foreign talent

many whole family come to malaysia
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Intel should close, they dont hire a lot of local. Most of their talent are from oversea. we dont need a company which open here but hire oversea talent. Btw, intel culture is hire fast and fire fast. very bad culture. Even they have a lot of training resource, they dont train you! they want to use you immediately after join, which is why now they are hiring more and more oversea talent.

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Intel should close, they dont hire a lot of local. Most of their talent are from oversea. we dont need a company which open here but hire oversea talent. Btw, intel culture is hire fast and fire fast. very bad culture.
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>they dont hire a lot of local.

do you have data to backup your claim?

although they got bring in some foreign talent ; but malaysian still a lot la

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>they dont hire a lot of local.

do you have data to backup your claim?
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If you worked inside before, you will know. Bayan baru and relau condo have very good rental from those talent. their talent mostly source from 3 areas, india, Philippines and Indonesia. I have a lot of network here hence i know the in and out. Some team even have like over 60 % are foreign talent especially the idm 2.0 team

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we dont need this kind of company here. they are not welcome to waste our ftz quota for better companies. they are not interested to train the local talent and resort to foreign talent. Btw out of the 40% local with 30% are either GT or GC while senior are majority foreign talent.

I would courage those local who get squeezed out to group and write open letter to MITI about this issue.

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If you worked inside before, you will know. Bayan baru and relau condo have very good rental from those talent. their talent mostly source from 3 areas, india, Philippines and Indonesia. I have a lot of network here hence i know the in and out
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Not that i aware of

let me check the exact figure with PH

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>they dont hire a lot of local.

do you have data to backup your claim?

although they got bring in some foreign talent ; but malaysian still a lot la
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we should allocate that place of huge land for tesla mega factory

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Pls cut malaysia... Dulan ppl thought working in intel very lanc
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Intel has always been a part of Bayan Lepas, Penang. They were one of the earlier factories to start in Bayan Lepas. Through the years they have employed many, many Malaysians. Many Malaysians continue to be employed at Intel today.

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There is plenty of land and plenty of people looking for good jobs in our country. Tesla does not need to worry about space. It will be great if they decide to set up shop in Penang, but currently I think they are looking at Selangor.
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Intel has always been a part of Bayan Lepas, Penang. They were one of the earlier factories to start in Bayan Lepas. Through the years they have employed many, many Malaysians. Many Malaysians continue to be employed at Intel today.

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There is plenty of land and plenty of people looking for good jobs in our country. Tesla does not need to worry about space. It will be great if they decide to set up shop in Penang, but currently I think they are looking at Selangor.
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while those who manage intel msia now no longer interested to training the local and resort to foreign senior talent. As mentioned our FTZ quota is not mean for foreigners. You might be surprised that the EMS hires and reskill even more senior local than Intel. What shame Intel as a OEM

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not all mnc behave this way. Intel just one of the bad one. Most Mnc will reskill their senior talent when one department slows down and relocate them to another department by giving them time to reskill. But intel dont, they CPM or pressure you out while they open new department and hire foreigners. I think AMD do a good job absorbing those local senior talent.

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and CPM mostly local kena.
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What is CPM? Is it equivalent to layoff or separation scheme?
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not all mnc behave this way. Intel just one of the bad one. Most Mnc will reskill their senior talent when one department slows down and relocate them to another department by giving them time to reskill. But intel dont, they CPM or pressure you out while they open new department and hire foreigners.
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lol .. when local malaysia company especially SME use foreigner is OK, while MNC tak boleh ....

I have seen A**** from Penang area back in the day .. use Nepalise for IT job .. guess hows the IT gaji they pay ? RM600
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jul 15 2023, 06:39 PM)
Personally, once you kena CPM, start reaching out to your contacts in other companies. Plan your exit liao, don't wait for the axe to fall. It is the same for all companies. Biasala, in your  40s?
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lol .. when local malaysia company especially SME use foreigner is OK, while MNC tak boleh ....

I have seen A**** from Penang area back in the day .. use Nepalise for IT job .. guess hows the IT gaji they pay ? RM600
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Do you know how much revenue msia lost because of FTZ? If FTZ is not for local, I suggest Penang giveup FTZ and go for free trade port. At least we can become like Singapore.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jul 15 2023, 06:39 PM)
Personally, once you kena CPM, start reaching out to your contacts in other companies. Plan your exit liao, don't wait for the axe to fall. It is the same for all companies. Biasala, in your  40s?
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Bear in mind Intel axe ppl faster than any MNC. And without warning. They axr one side and hire another side. Crazy man...

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corporate people movement. But its actually MSS.
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Layoff all those lazy and expensive AMDK, hire more cheap and hardworking MY
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Bear in mind Intel axe ppl faster than any MNC. And without warning. They axr one side and hire another side. Crazy man...
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From what I know, Intel is one of the better ones. Unless you are a real a**hole, your manager would have given you some hints or heads up during your regular 1to1 meetings. Can take that time to start putting out feelers liao.
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Layoff all those lazy and expensive AMDK, hire more cheap and hardworking MY
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jul 15 2023, 06:51 PM)
From what I know, Intel is one of the better ones. Unless you are a real a**hole, your manager would have given you some hints or heads up during your regular 1to1 meetings. Can take that time to start putting out feelers liao.
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dont judge the book from its cover and 1 case is not the same as another 100 case. If Intel keep thinking in this matter, very soon AMD and other competitors going to overtake Intel.

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corporate people movement. But its actually MSS.
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I see. Yeah, it sucks if you kena.

Is foreigner cheaper than local? Usually, they are more expensive and the first to go if there is any MSS.
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Intel not earlier told invest rm30b into MY, why need to cut MY. They cut the expensive US angmo and hire more MY lah
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Probably invest more on automation.

Sad truth about some cost cutting exercise is when the orders are given from top, lets say 50% from each dept, the downlines just needs to follow the orders to cut no matter how good / significant you think you are, it's always the one that can 'justify' their role more gets to stay.

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dont judge the book from its cover and 1 case is not the same as another 100 case. If Intel keep thinking in this matter, very soon AMD and other competitors going to overtake Intel.
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dont judge the book from its cover and 1 case is not the same as another 100 case. If Intel keep thinking in this matter, very soon AMD and other competitors going to overtake Intel.
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Heard alot of people jump ship to AMD.
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Their chip always more expensive than AMD, how can losess billiun billiun ?
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i didnt dare to ask them. They have family to feed and now getting a job is so hard In Penang. If i ask, for sure its like spread salt on their wound. The part i dont like is Intel recruiting foreign seniors and throw away local seniors

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Heard alot of people jump ship to AMD.
Not teh fake TF-AMD
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Probably invest more on automation.

Sad truth about some cost cutting exercise is when the orders are given from top, lets say 50% from each dept, the downlines just needs to follow the orders to cut no matter how good / significant you think you are, it's always the one that can 'justify' their role more gets to stay.
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they invest factory and those expand headcount were mostly foreign hired or fresh grad. local Senior are all junk to them, no value to reskill.

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AMD Taiwanese work culture is very different from Intel's.
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i didnt dare to ask them.
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Depending on how long you have been there, might not be a bad thing brows.gif

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Chips got demand.. also wanna layoff?
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AMD Taiwanese work culture is very different from Intel's.
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I heard not bad, most important its stable. they dont simply hire fast and fire fast

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Depending on how long you have been there, might not be a bad thing brows.gif

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I heard not bad, most important its stable. they dont simply hire fast and fire fast
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AMD presence in Malaysia got as big as Intel?
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I think intel wipe out the whole HR team last year.

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eh come on, its not easy to get a job for a seniors you knows. especially those required reskills.
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Aiya look at your epf lor, some of those seniors can retire liao. If boring take the package go become hawker lor.

Not all though. sad.gif
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Increasing.
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No longer as enthusiastic as before like in the 80s before the radicalization of Malaysia where equal employment opportunity rights were practiced back then in the tech sector.

Nowadays we face very fierce competition by out neighbors such as SG, TH, VN and even PH.


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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jul 15 2023, 07:57 PM)
Aiya look at your epf lor, some of those seniors can retire liao. If boring take the package go become hawker lor.

Not all though. sad.gif
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oh no....some kids still attending college. You think college very cheap?
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No longer as enthusiastic as before like in the 80s before the radicalization of Malaysia where equal employment opportunity rights were practiced back then in the tech sector.

Nowadays we face very fierce competition by out neighbors such as SG, TH, VN and even PH.
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The problem is talent corp open too many quota for foreigners. Talent corp is the culprit. If intel cannot afford to reskill the local talent, i think they should go. Dont leech on our tax player money to maintain the ftz area.

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Im not a big fan of talent corp. 1) they fail to bring back local talent from oversea 2) now they are giving quota to foreign engineers and increase competition locally. I think most local would want to become engineers, its just company refuse to reskill.

If the 3d jobs i can understand that we can open quota for those because the local dont want to do. But local tech jobs, oh come on talent corp...what are you doing!
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Im not a big fan of talent corp. 1) they fail to bring back local talent from oversea 2) now they are giving quota to foreign engineers and increase competition locally. I think most local would want to become engineers, its just company refuse to reskill.

If the 3d jobs i can understand that we can open quota for those because the local dont want to do. But local tech jobs, oh come on talent corp...what are you doing!
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How to bring back when salary in this country severely short changed?

Also don't forget the 51% criteria, it's a huge turnoff.

If you're from the manufacturing and industrial sector you know the challenges and difficulties middle management people staffs like engineers always face. Boss wants results, bottom boycott work knowing their rights you in the middle kena sammich lor. First to get kicked is not the bottom, it's the engineers and middle management execs.

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eh. got another round of CPM 🤔 how big this time? i thought 2nd half will be getting better for Intel?
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How to bring back when salary in this country severely short changed?

Also don't forget the 51% criteria, it's a huge turnoff.

If you're from the manufacturing and industrial sector you know the challenges and difficulties middle management people staffs like engineers always face. Boss wants results, bottom boycott work knowing their rights you in the middle kena sammich lor. First to get kicked is not the bottom, it's the engineers and middle management execs.
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dont forget why Penang giveup free trade port over FTZ. Im looking at the big picture. We give up free trade port so that FTZ can create job for the LOCAL. And now we are using our tax player money to fund foreigners job?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 15 2023, 08:22 PM)
eh. got another round of CPM 🤔 how big this time? i thought 2nd half will be getting better for Intel?
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Soules know more than fantasy.
Should ask soules instead.
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dont forget why Penang giveup free trade port over FTZ. Im looking at the big picture. We give up free trade port so that FTZ can create job for the LOCAL. And now we are using our tax player money to fund foreigners job?
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hmm, if you remember that you should be around my age? Mahathir took away our free port and gave it to Langkawi, gave us the FTZ in return.
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Soules know more than fantasy.
Should ask soules instead.
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RtK GG
Soules, got lobang in AMD?
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RtK GG
Soules, got lobang in AMD?
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rtk kena CPM 🤔
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Malaysia is not only susceptible to middle income trap.

Our industries and wage earning talents are also at risk with middle management traps.

Boss wants results, bottom main selamba knowing their 51% rights and rehiring costs extra to train.

Who get compressed, pressure cooked and first to get squeeze out?

Middle management of course! Why many quit and join the gig/self employment industry especially talents? Why people prefer prioritizing mental wellness and work life balance nowadays?

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jul 15 2023, 08:27 PM)
hmm, if you remember that you should be around my age? Mahathir took away our free port and gave it to Langkawi, gave us the FTZ in return.
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not dr m, our previous penang state minister lcy requested ftz because he knows ftz will bring jobs to local. It take quite longtime to get this bargain. But now ftz purpose is blur already.

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 15 2023, 08:30 PM)
Malaysia is not only susceptible to middle income trap.

Our industries and wage earning talents are also at risk with middle management traps.

Boss wants results, bottom main selamba knowing their 51% rights and rehiring costs extra to train.

Who get compressed, pressure cooked and first to get squeeze out?

Middle management of course! Why many quit and join the gig/self employment industry especially talents? Why people prefer prioritizing mental wellness and work life balance nowadays?
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government policy need to revise, fix now or more brain drain. if local cannot get job, they will find way out. You have spent so much self cost to reskill, for sure you reskill to go oversea.

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rtk kena CPM 🤔
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Dunno yet.
Rtk gudboi, do work no politiks


Secure placement before kena, if no kena can stay
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 15 2023, 08:31 PM)
not dr m, our previous penang state minister lct requested ftz because he knows ftz will bring jobs to local. It take quite longtime to get this bargain. But now ftz purpose is blur already.
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can't really remember so long ago, but yeah I remember that. The FTZ was in return for the free port status.
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government policy need to revise, fix now or more brain drain. if local cannot get job, they will find way out. You have spent so much self cost to reskill, for sure you reskill to go oversea.
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Most non youths these days is go gig or get out.

Talents are not really appreciated in a country which invites investments for cheap labor only without further value.
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RtK GG
Soules, got lobang in AMD?
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the one i know sudah fillup. better be fast, they going stop hiring soon
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Dunno yet.
Rtk gudboi, do work no politiks
Secure placement before kena, if no kena can stay
VSS monies would be lots
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vss up to 30 months only or max 30 years 🤔
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Most non youths these days is go gig or get out.

Talents are not really appreciated in a country which invites investments for cheap labor only without further value.
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policy didnt help with reskill. I found it stupid where MDEC thinks a reskill class of 4 days can make a person fit to a senior roles. A lot of discipline in Intel required yrs to master. This idea just so wrong. Policy to boost company to reskill rather than CPM should be enforced. And block foreigners hiring.

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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Jul 15 2023, 08:33 PM)
Dunno yet.
Rtk gudboi, do work no politiks
Secure placement before kena, if no kena can stay
VSS monies would be lots
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You don't practice politics also at your workplace your downlines and subordinates who group together will. Worst if you don't have good relations or they choose you to be the scapegoat as a newcomer you're pretty much toast.

They don't perform, refuse to do properly at the end of the day you're the one answerable to top management for not achieving progress at your work because teamwork collaboration is broken.

As much as I hate to admit institutionalized R&R is very prevalent across the industries in this country.
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the one i know sudah fillup. better be fast, they going stop hiring soon
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Fak, gib recommendation can?

QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 15 2023, 08:37 PM)
vss up to 30 months only or max 30 years 🤔
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FAK MEH

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You don't practice politics also at your workplace your downlines and subordinates who group together will. Worst if you don't have good relations or they choose you to be the scapegoat as a newcomer you're pretty much toast.

They don't perform, refuse to do properly at the end of the day you're the one answerable to top management for not achieving progress at your work because teamwork collaboration is broken.

As much as I hate to admit institutionalized R&R is very prevalent across the industries in this country.
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RtK yindian.... is ok rite?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 15 2023, 08:37 PM)
vss up to 30 months only or max 30 years 🤔
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/ktard all minimum 20k brows.gif
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I think now Intel policy is you being given short time to reskill yourself. if fail, they kick you out and backfill with foreign talent.

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I think now Intel policy is you being given short time to reskill yourself. if fail, they kick you out and backfill with foreign talent.
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Previous exercises was 6 months to 1 year to find a position somewhere else in the company, I think. Not sure about the foreign talent part.
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Previous exercises was 6 months to 1 year to find a position somewhere else in the company, I think. Not sure about the foreign talent part.
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that one is separate case. Thats why i mentioned its case by case
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/ktard all minimum 20k brows.gif
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still not a lot. 20k x 30

not even 1M
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Dunno yet.
Rtk gudboi, do work no politiks
Secure placement before kena, if no kena can stay
VSS monies would be lots
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those CPM process not yet settle?
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Please cut Malaysia 50% - 100%.
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Next week list out?
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Malaysia branch less impact I think, because it is a low cost hub for Intel.
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Find it funny

Intel make quarterly loss and the bosses arent the one getting the boot

Management arent accountable for number and share holder value ? And staff is ?

Kasi buang ceo, hr and rnd head out the door dulu then only talk about the ikan bilis
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thank you biden & USA policymaker for stirring shit with CHina but never admit their fault & resign.


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still not a lot. 20k x 30

not even 1M
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It is enough to tide them over until normal retirement age if they so wish. There are many epf millionaires. Not including whatever stock options they may still have. Not as good as last time, but still...
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i heard last intel 50th anniversary....their ceo Pat didnt even turnout. but he turn out at china 20th anniversary. Can see how much value msia intel in Pat eyes.

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Kenapa loss? During pandemic not gain any profitable revenue?
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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Jul 15 2023, 09:35 PM)
Find it funny

Intel make quarterly loss and the bosses arent the one getting the boot

Management arent accountable for number and share holder value ? And staff is ?

Kasi buang ceo, hr and rnd head out the door dulu then only talk about the ikan bilis
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The CEO or country manager probably be reassigned back to US HQ or some other country if the company folds up.

Top Management or HODs mostly won't be accountable because they're the closest intelligence next to the country managers or directors.

Ikan bilis is used to fulfill the 51% quota so they're also untouchables because keeping them is the lowest liability costs to take advantage of the government grants and investment lure benefits.

The BIGGEST casualties are usually the middle management engineers and execs. Next smallest is numbers, easiest to replace with thousands of grads being released annually from local universities, paid in peanut MYR salaries and fulfill the local talent responsibility hiring exercises.

This we refer to as the MIDDLE MANAGEMENT TALENT trap. Most vulnerable to retrenchment due to over excess of grads today and 51% puts them at even more difficult position because top management sees keeping the cheap low cost bottom non execs as a safer way to fulfill the quota.

Talents will be able to sniff this danger long before it happens. Already underpaid and short changed by salary, with no job security what else they want to look for other than get out? laugh.gif

Chinese has a saying holding a position not big enough to make important decisions/give orders and also not small enough to just do your assigned task specifically, what happens? You become the sandwiched filling. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 15 2023, 11:32 PM)
i heard last intel 50th anniversary....their ceo Pat didnt even turnout. but he turn out at china 20th anniversary. Can see how much value msia intel in Pat eyes.
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With the 51% requirement the only lure for Msia is cheap labor. How it's done? Maintaining the cheapest level staffs at the bottom just to fulfill the requirement.

All talents, engineers, execs and junior managers will have to go first when downsizing kicks in.
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 15 2023, 11:32 PM)
i heard last intel 50th anniversary....their ceo Pat didnt even turnout. but he turn out at china 20th anniversary. Can see how much value msia intel in Pat eyes.
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I heard, he also didn't turn up for the ground breaking ceremony of the new building.. just drop by at klia/subang then left.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jul 16 2023, 03:21 PM)
The CEO or country manager probably be reassigned back to US HQ or some other country if the company folds up.

Top Management or HODs mostly won't be accountable because they're the closest intelligence next to the country managers or directors.

Ikan bilis is used to fulfill the 51% quota so they're also untouchables because keeping them is the lowest liability costs to take advantage of the government grants and investment lure benefits.

The BIGGEST casualties are usually the middle management engineers and execs. Next smallest is numbers, easiest to replace with thousands of grads being released annually from local universities, paid in peanut MYR salaries and fulfill the local talent responsibility hiring exercises.

This we refer to as the MIDDLE MANAGEMENT TALENT trap. Most vulnerable to retrenchment due to over excess of grads today and 51% puts them at even more difficult position because top management sees keeping the cheap low cost bottom non execs as a safer way to fulfill the quota.

Talents will be able to sniff this danger long before it happens. Already underpaid and short changed by salary, with no job security what else they want to look for other than get out? laugh.gif

Chinese has a saying holding a position not big enough to make important decisions/give orders and also not small enough to just do your assigned task specifically, what happens? You become the sandwiched filling. icon_idea.gif
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senior engineer arent safe at all, they can easily replaceable with foreign talent and reskill time given is crazy short.
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 15 2023, 07:46 PM)
i didnt dare to ask them. They have family to feed and now getting a job is so hard In Penang. If i ask, for sure its like spread salt on their wound. The part i dont like is Intel recruiting foreign seniors and throw away local seniors
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Is the salary in penang higher than kl?
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Is the salary in penang higher than kl?
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What is KL salary rate?
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are there any plan for vss for intel malaysia next week ?
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Is the salary in penang higher than kl?
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LOL NOPE
I guess Intel is one of those that are considered above ave but PG pay is generally shite compared to KL
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Any official announcement from the company for Malaysia plant?
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are there any plan for vss for intel malaysia next week ?
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You askyour manager lo

We here mana tau o
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Chill la, CEO compensation also got cut, alot you know

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Intel layoff started again...heard there is a planned yearly layoff...

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Intel layoff started again...heard there is a planned yearly layoff...
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Good, amd waiting to hire with massive stock and increment
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serve them right. Follow the sohai congressman to sanction china. End up, own company suffer.
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 16 2023, 10:03 PM)
Intel layoff started again...heard there is a planned yearly layoff...
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GG

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Dec 17 2023, 12:23 AM)
Good, amd waiting to hire with massive stock and increment
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LOL

QUOTE(NightFelix @ Dec 17 2023, 12:33 AM)
cut malaysia please, kan oreo kita nak boycott Intel kan. semua can go work at AMD liao.
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Butthurk?
We don't do as much in terms of RnD
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Butthurk?
We don't do as much in terms of RnD
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Hiring verification engineers, no RnD?
What tok kok you?
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Hiring verification engineers, no RnD?
What tok kok you?
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Heard a lot GT cannot get convert to permanent....pretty bad shape for Intel. But they still hiring GT, not sure what is their intention. Locking GT for 2 yrs and let them go?

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 17 2023, 09:27 PM)
Heard a lot GT cannot get convert to permanent....pretty bad shape for Intel. But they still hiring GT, not sure what is their intention. Locking GT for 2 yrs and let them go?
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iSean you also got this issue right?
Department couldn't absorb you
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Heard a lot GT cannot get convert to permanent....pretty bad shape for Intel. But they still hiring GT, not sure what is their intention. Locking GT for 2 yrs and let them go?
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Waiting for test engineer related job, can go sin ka lan with interviewer. Verification i know enough to screw the yindia engineers only.
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Nope. Job scope not ngam. I am test engineer.
Waiting for test engineer related job, can go sin ka lan with interviewer. Verification i know enough to screw the yindia engineers only.
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Do you have problems with yindia eng too?
They keep pumping out stuff without verifying with others. Then when RtK point out the issue say not their responsibility when die2 got their name in approvals.
Or just taichi
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Dec 17 2023, 10:07 PM)
Do you have problems with yindia eng too?
They keep pumping out stuff without verifying with others. Then when RtK point out the issue say not their responsibility when die2 got their name in approvals.
Or just taichi
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but

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5424439

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Dec 17 2023, 10:15 PM)
Don't follow, first, GG on the Chip act funding. Next export license. Finally the tax incentives.
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Heard the Chips Act gave shit all
https://www.channelasia.tech/article/709744...en-distributed/
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but searching through Workday still hiring a lot though for experienced posts.
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mostly backfill roles which require those who joined to perform immediately and to clear shit. They won't give you time to pickup, heard OKR requirement super strict for those backfill roles.

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So, monday when NASDAQ open, intc will lao sai?
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So, monday when NASDAQ open, intc will lao sai?
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When got layoff share price normally go up..
Cause lower operating cost and higher divident once trim off the fat
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When got layoff share price normally go up..
Cause lower operating cost and higher divident once trim off the fat
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But also declare big losses

Think they are behind amd, too much comfort zone for fee decades i guess
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iSean you also got this issue right?
Department couldn't absorb you
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Yeahh it is a common issue during/post-Pandemic.
They lock in GT for 2 years, unable to convert them.

Eventually most of us leave for other places. Or convert to Grade 3 in other departments, whichever open rack that is available for us.

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 08:38 AM)
Yeahh it is a common issue during/post-Pandemic.
They lock in GT for 2 years, unable to convert them.

Eventually most of us leave for other places. Or convert to Grade 3 in other departments, whichever open rack that is available for us.
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My sis just got into a GT.
FMCG tho... But starting pay oso 4k
Pray she'll get absorbed


Last intern got absorbed cos I pushed the director abit
Called in a personal favour
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So, monday when NASDAQ open, intc will lao sai?
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usually layoff stock will go up

because profit margin will go up as they are supressing their operating cost

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Dec 18 2023, 05:04 AM)
But also declare big losses

Think they are behind amd, too much comfort zone for fee decades i guess
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dont think so..this quarter should be doing good for INTC (although i no longer with intel but this should be reality)

and that quite expected because Q4 should be always the "best" quarter...


they continue layoff is because intc having way higher operating cost compared to other company (might not good direct comparison because intc bao semua including design n fab; whereas AMD only doing design and throw it to TSMC)


cant find a chart ..that time baru see that

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 08:38 AM)
Yeahh it is a common issue during/post-Pandemic.
They lock in GT for 2 years, unable to convert them.

Eventually most of us leave for other places. Or convert to Grade 3 in other departments, whichever open rack that is available for us.
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Yup..or run to competitor company like A or L as G3

QUOTE(rtk74 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:59 AM)
My sis just got into a GT.
FMCG tho... But starting pay oso 4k
Pray she'll get absorbed
Last intern got absorbed cos I pushed the director abit
Called in a personal favour
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if just join still got hope ; existing want full term punya a bit susah

although department got headcount also want keep it for future layoff.. can use reqs to offset instead of need to find weakest link to goreng

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 18 2023, 10:06 AM)
Yup..or run to competitor company like A or L as G3
if just join still got hope ; existing want full term punya a bit susah

although department got headcount also want keep it for future layoff.. can use reqs to offset instead of need to find weakest link to goreng
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typical strategy by any large company. reduce & cut costs to maintain & keep the same profit so that the dividends the shareholders get remain the same despite the increase in losses.
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What's L?
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:59 AM)
My sis just got into a GT.
FMCG tho... But starting pay oso 4k
Pray she'll get absorbed
Last intern got absorbed cos I pushed the director abit
Called in a personal favour
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FMCG...? "Fast Moving Consumer Goods". your sister not in Engineering/IT side or what blink.gif
Seems like Sales rclxub.gif


Well normally if 1 year haven't get absorbed will be an issue la.

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 11:18 AM)
FMCG...? "Fast Moving Consumer Goods". your sister not in Engineering/IT side or what  blink.gif
Seems like Sales  rclxub.gif
Well normally if 1 year haven't get absorbed will be an issue la.
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Yup... But still pay is comparable to engineering...
FAK meh

Also, possibly they'll pull WFH and push for office all the time

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Yup... But still pay is comparable to engineering...
FAK meh

Also, possibly they'll pull WFH and push for office all the time
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Yeahh it is a common issue during/post-Pandemic.
They lock in GT for 2 years, unable to convert them.

Eventually most of us leave for other places. Or convert to Grade 3 in other departments, whichever open rack that is available for us.
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so you get converted to permanent after how many years?
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so you get converted to permanent after how many years?
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I signed a 1 year GT contract, then since no headcount, I just jumped into PSG for another year.
Next year work as standalone rclxub.gif
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I signed a 1 year GT contract, then since no headcount, I just jumped into PSG for another year.
Next year work as standalone  rclxub.gif
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you are not permanent G3 in PSG now?
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you are not permanent G3 in PSG now?
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Still Perm BB.

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2022.5 - now - G3 @ PSG, Intel

2024 PSG turns standalone, sooner or later we are not longer belong within Intel and celebrate wins together sweat.gif

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Still Perm BB.

2021.5 - 2022.5 GT @ IPG, Intel
2022.5 - now -  G3 @ PSG, Intel

2024 PSG turns standalone, sooner or later we are not longer belong within Intel and celebrate wins together  sweat.gif
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still got job. unless they layoff.

are you doing design, integration, and verification for IPs when you were with IPG?
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 18 2023, 10:04 AM)
dont think so..this quarter should be doing good for INTC (although i no longer with intel but this should be reality)

and that quite expected because Q4 should be always the "best" quarter...
they continue layoff is because intc having way higher operating cost compared to other company (might not good direct comparison because intc bao semua including design n fab; whereas AMD only doing design and throw it to TSMC)
cant find a chart ..that time baru see that
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got good lobang hor?
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got good lobang hor?
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Ya..got lubang

then decided to take high risk move (that time my waifu pregnant)


intc actually counter me with next grade level + "some" increment ; but i reject ..cant compare

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 09:05 PM)
Still Perm BB.

2021.5 - 2022.5 GT @ IPG, Intel
2022.5 - now -  G3 @ PSG, Intel

2024 PSG turns standalone, sooner or later we are not longer belong within Intel and celebrate wins together  sweat.gif
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if detached then u can hop around intel and PSG aka altera again ma

just like last time ppl hop around intel and altera

now we even have L and M-lembut is expanding

on top of other competitor like Star and Sky
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 18 2023, 02:01 AM)
mostly backfill roles which require those who joined to perform immediately and to clear shit. They won't give you time to pickup, heard OKR requirement super strict for those backfill roles.
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How about using you temporarily just to clear the backlogs and work then upon completion of contract, told to leave and refresh with another round of new grads?

Does it fulfill the promise to the local government to pledge providing jobs to new interns with every year of newly released grads?
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Dec 18 2023, 09:35 PM)
How about using you temporarily just to clear the backlogs and work then upon completion of contract, told to leave and refresh with another round of new grads?

Does it fulfill the promise to the local government to pledge providing jobs to new interns with every year of newly released grads?
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Yes. but if company perceive you as potential talent then they will try to convert you la

if not org how to grow


but they just view you as average or low performer ..GT contract end is good reason to kick you out


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Another round of layoffs? since this thread got necroed. meteorlake that bad?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:18 PM)
still got job. unless they layoff.

are you doing design, integration, and verification for IPs when you were with IPG?
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The last part Verification (Electrical/Design Validation), mostly help them with data collection and automation tools development with plotting the .csv data.
Test RX/TX eye margin on test chips.

Was quite happy there, if things was working fine. Just stress during they power on need to do Volume Validation.
And most of the test chips is ... sweat.gif
Sadly, no head req. , got my ex-colleague from my internship company ask me go join her PSG team.

Cincai interview and got into PSG. But she left months afterwards sweat.gif


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:31 PM)
Ya..got lubang

then decided to take high risk move (that time my waifu pregnant)
intc actually counter me with next grade level + "some" increment ; but i reject ..cant compare
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means current company offer more than what Intel counter offer you ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:50 PM)
means current company offer more than what Intel counter offer you ohmy.gif
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Yes

whole package is something that until i willing to take high risk move

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:33 PM)
if detached then u can hop around intel and PSG aka altera again ma

just like last time ppl hop around intel and altera

now we even have L and M-lembut is expanding

on top of other competitor like Star and Sky
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what is M-lembu?

L is Lattice but not so many opening since just a small company compared to Xilinx and Altera.

Besides, StarFive, SkyChip, got Oppstar also. but the last 2 are MY companies.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:54 PM)
what is M-lembu?

L is Lattice but not so many opening since just a small company compared to Xilinx and Altera.

Besides, StarFive, SkyChip, got Oppstar also. but the last 2 are MY companies.
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uSoft

but expand manufacturing related first

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Ya..got lubang

then decided to take high risk move (that time my waifu pregnant)
intc actually counter me with next grade level + "some" increment ; but i reject ..cant compare
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i guess "some" is not attractive enough. haha
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Yes

whole package is something that until i willing to take high risk move
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your current company is rich!

are you doing the same domain of work in your current company as what you did in Intel?
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your current company is rich!

are you doing the same domain of work in your current company as what you did in Intel?
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Similar
but of course not exactly same
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uSoft

but expand manufacturing related first
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you mean Microsoft? they got manufacturing?

i do hope Qualcomm, Nvidia, and Apple open design center here. but well, don't think so. cry.gif
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you mean Microsoft? they got manufacturing?

i do hope Qualcomm, Nvidia, and Apple open design center here. but well, don't think so. cry.gif
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Yes they also got manufacture hardware like MS Surface, game consoles and many other stuffs.

Similar to Apple.

Very unlikely will happen considering talent pool in Malaysia and the quota requirement.

Later the government will ask to absorb all the local grads into their company and suppress salaries. Those who work in there later find out their other peers same grade level as them in other countries earning way more but over here they earn so much less their HR will get headaches.

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 09:46 PM)
The last part Verification (Electrical/Design Validation), mostly help them with data collection and automation tools development with plotting the .csv data.
Test RX/TX eye margin on test chips.

Was quite happy there, if things was working fine. Just stress during they power on need to do Volume Validation.
And most of the test chips is ... sweat.gif
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sounds like you are doing post silicon debug back then. can try iVE group too.
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you mean Microsoft? they got manufacturing?

i do hope Qualcomm, Nvidia, and Apple open design center here. but well, don't think so. cry.gif
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yes. expanding


and they are going to have 1 floor focus on that at bayan lepas soon

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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 09:46 PM)
The last part Verification (Electrical/Design Validation), mostly help them with data collection and automation tools development with plotting the .csv data.
Test RX/TX eye margin on test chips.

Was quite happy there, if things was working fine. Just stress during they power on need to do Volume Validation.
And most of the test chips is ... sweat.gif
Sadly, no head req. , got my ex-colleague from my internship company ask me go join her PSG team.

Cincai interview and got into PSG. But she left months afterwards  sweat.gif
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heard PSG detaching soon. Not sure if the same benefit will stay or back to old Altera style. Sounds very chaos now at Intel.

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Kek, no changes.

QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 18 2023, 09:05 PM)
Still Perm BB.

2021.5 - 2022.5 GT @ IPG, Intel
2022.5 - now -  G3 @ PSG, Intel

2024 PSG turns standalone, sooner or later we are not longer belong within Intel and celebrate wins together  sweat.gif
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Altera? GG
time to trade while still blue to black

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 18 2023, 09:33 PM)
if detached then u can hop around intel and PSG aka altera again ma

just like last time ppl hop around intel and altera

now we even have L and M-lembut is expanding

on top of other competitor like Star and Sky
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LOL M-Lembut
first time hearing people calling it that

Lattice too smol still

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Kek, no changes.
Altera? GG
time to trade while still blue to black
LOL M-Lembut
first time hearing people calling it that

Lattice too smol still
They'll find a yindia Yindian that's more yindian than unker
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They'll find a yindia Yindian that's more yindian than unker
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I wonder why they like to find those from yindia one, especially cw
Those people cannot work one, pandai cakap only
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I wonder why they like to find those from yindia one, especially cw
Those people cannot work one, pandai cakap only
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yes.

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Lattice amd boleh work remotely kah
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I wonder why they like to find those from yindia one, especially cw
Those people cannot work one, pandai cakap only
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Yes. but some is they outsourced to that certain company

then Malai have to follow

just like example if you are working with bigger team ..from India

then their topgun say we this project all CW give to this India outsourcing company

and they have branch in Malai ..then no choice lor


not to say all is bad ; but good 1 usually will run elsewhere or become permanent employee
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Lattice amd boleh work remotely kah
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intc depending on org also can remote

2Q ago before i cabut ..my GT work remotely at his hometown for almost 1.5 years
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intc depending on org also can remote

2Q ago before i cabut ..my GT work remotely at his hometown for almost 1.5 years
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I think those GT remote so long tunggu layoff unless veli good performance.

my manager told me only those veli experienced one allowed to remote. others wajib masuk opis.

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I think those GT remote so long tunggu layoff unless veli good performance.

my manager told me only those veli experienced one allowed to remote. others wajib masuk opis.
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No idea...I passdown everything then cabut jor

Not sure he managed to convert or not
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I wonder why they like to find those from yindia one, especially cw
Those people cannot work one, pandai cakap only
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QUOTE(Muchafaka @ May 9 2023, 06:47 PM)
Pls cut malaysia... Dulan ppl thought working in intel very lanc
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why so cibai?

hope your family got laid off too then
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Still Perm BB.

2021.5 - 2022.5 GT @ IPG, Intel
2022.5 - now -  G3 @ PSG, Intel

2024 PSG turns standalone, sooner or later we are not longer belong within Intel and celebrate wins together  sweat.gif
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If not mistake, coming layoff target should be PSG.
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This batch is volunteer will exit in 31 Dec 2023...

Mostly those very senior 10 years++ will resign one ...


Well they plan to IPO in Sept 2024. Hopefully all numbers looks good without reducing headcount...
Else everyday fear of getting potong only. sweat.gif



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If not mistake, coming layoff target should be PSG.
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IFS and TD including PGDM hiring a lot though.
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Internally got VSS (Corporate People Movement - Application Process) this quarter.
This batch is volunteer will exit in 31 Dec 2023...

Mostly those very senior 10 years++ will resign one ...
Well they plan to IPO in Sept 2024. Hopefully all numbers looks good without reducing headcount...
Else everyday fear of getting potong only.  sweat.gif
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once PG17 siap. i think you need to be in office already since PG15 space is freed up.
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once PG17 siap. i think you need to be in office already since PG15 space is freed up.
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Well already being prepared to return to Office long ago laugh.gif ...

I just personally not a fan of being in Office since the Jam became this horrible... sweat.gif
Once PG17 is built, will say good bye to the MDC folks edi.

Hopefully the come office early, leave office early culture still remains. sweat.gif
Otherwise need to find cheap condo to rent around the South side of Penang Island.

Sg. Ara / Bayan Baru region too scary jam edi for just a tiny stretch of land rclxub.gif
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Well already being prepared to return to Office long ago  laugh.gif ...

I just personally not a fan of being in Office since the Jam became this horrible... sweat.gif
Once PG17 is built, will say good bye to the MDC folks edi.

Hopefully the come office early, leave office early culture still remains.  sweat.gif
Otherwise need to find cheap condo to rent around the South side of Penang Island.

Sg. Ara / Bayan Baru region too scary jam edi for just a tiny stretch of land  rclxub.gif
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Batu Maung should have place to rent.
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IFS and TD including PGDM hiring a lot though.
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IFS will have to fight with Infineon, Bosch semi for backend talent as we have limited talent in packaging. While heard TD working environment is bad...

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Internally got VSS (Corporate People Movement - Application Process) this quarter.
This batch is volunteer will exit in 31 Dec 2023...

Mostly those very senior 10 years++ will resign one ...
Well they plan to IPO in Sept 2024. Hopefully all numbers looks good without reducing headcount...
Else everyday fear of getting potong only.  sweat.gif
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Not the end yet.
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See intelians still can action high class work Intel or not
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IFS will have to fight with Infineon, Bosch semi for backend talent as we have limited talent in packaging. While heard TD working environment is bad...
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TD?
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TD?
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why so cibai?

hope your family got laid off too then
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QUOTE(iSean @ Dec 19 2023, 10:48 PM)
Internally got VSS (Corporate People Movement - Application Process) this quarter.
This batch is volunteer will exit in 31 Dec 2023...

Mostly those very senior 10 years++ will resign one ...
Well they plan to IPO in Sept 2024. Hopefully all numbers looks good without reducing headcount...
Else everyday fear of getting potong only.  sweat.gif
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unless got health issue or better opportunity ready to go ..else not really worth

if that person already early 40+ then dont simply take VSS and find job later ..sometime hard to find job

if already 50+ then can take n bye


i have 1 friend which is late 30s ..resigned due to butthurt with management + empty hand at Q1 2022 ..till now still cant get job despite of throwing many resume

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unless got health issue or better opportunity ready to go ..else not really worth

if that person already early 40+ then dont simply take VSS and find job later ..sometime hard to find job

if already 50+ then can take n bye
i have 1 friend which is late 30s ..resigned due to butthurt with management + empty hand at Q1 2022 ..till now still cant get job despite of throwing many resume
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Really or not or ego too high.

Can always go to subcon factory if cant find job.
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Really or not or ego too high.

Can always go to subcon factory if cant find job.
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Dunno him la.. somehow he still can survive with all commitment


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lanjiaoa all this MNC company, pay big for freshy just wanna attract ppl come and then from there milk thier talent and brain washed hard work , later when time for them to increase salaries or promote to higher, they will use all kind of reason
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lanjiaoa all this MNC company, pay big for freshy just wanna attract ppl come and then from there milk thier talent and brain washed hard work , later when time for them to increase salaries or promote to higher, they will use all kind of reason
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lanjiaoa all this MNC company, pay big for freshy just wanna attract ppl come and then from there milk thier talent and brain washed hard work , later when time for them to increase salaries or promote to higher, they will use all kind of reason
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at least freshie has a place to have strong fundamental. then can start looking elsewhere.
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Please la. These days unless if you are working at Ah hock's place dont  bother to show off.
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That place really another level. Can see from the cars in their car park
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That place really another level. Can see from the cars in their car park
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Well that is given since 10 units of their shares can buy a locally made car while most 10 units cant even buy an iphone.
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Well that is given since 10 units of their shares can buy a locally made car while most 10 units cant even buy an iphone.
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Broadcom?
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Well that is given since 10 units of their shares can buy a locally made car while most 10 units cant even buy an iphone.
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Surprisingly they are willing to give that much.

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at least freshie has a place to have strong fundamental. then can start looking elsewhere.
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many after strong fundamental, after vss become insurance agent or CKT at food court, they cannot work for others small company anymore, culture shock
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lanjiaoa all this MNC company, pay big for freshy just wanna attract ppl come and then from there milk thier talent and brain washed hard work , later when time for them to increase salaries or promote to higher, they will use all kind of reason
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macam you go to other company will not do the same
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many after strong fundamental, after vss become insurance agent or CKT at food court, they cannot work for others small company anymore, culture shock
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Sendiri strawberry dont blame others.
This happens just about anywhere
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really use AI already?
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macam you go to other company will not do the same
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China men local companies are even worst. They won't even think carefully whether if the decision to fire is worth a not before pulling the trigger.
A company with deep pocket will consider carefully and value a long time staff but for China men type of companies once you're of no more use to them off you go.
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really use AI already?
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they are piloting MS co-pilot for some use-case before i cabut

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they are piloting MS co-pilot for some use-case before i cabut
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All interview candidates will be filtered with AI for assessment.

Where you've worked before, what were your roles, your experiences, your personality, interests, background check, tendency to be emotionally unstable..
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yep, told you all already. Msia will be the next one. Intel also practice first in first out...so think twice before join.

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China men local companies are even worst. They won't even think carefully whether if the decision to fire is worth a not before pulling the trigger.
A company with deep pocket will consider carefully and value a long time staff but for China men type of companies once you're of no more use to them off you go.
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A wave of layoffs continues to rattle the tech industry, with semiconductor chip manufacturer Intel on Monday confirming that it plans to cut its workforce to reduce costs.

The company declined to share how many workers would be affected but said the layoffs would take place across the company.

“Intel is working to accelerate its strategy while navigating a challenging macro-economic environment,” the company said in an emailed statement. “We continue to invest in areas core to our business, including our U.S.-based manufacturing operations, to ensure we are well-positioned for long-term growth.”

Intel last month reported its largest quarterly loss in company history amid a slump in personal computer sales. First-quarter net loss was $2.8 billion and revenue was down 36% year-over-year.

Despite the loss, the company paid out $1.5 billion in dividends.

Reuters reported the Santa Clara, California-based company cut employee and executive pay earlier this year. And The Wall Street Journal in October reported that Intel was beginning targeted job cuts and aimed to reduce costs by $3 billion in 2023.
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Which means almost everyone is being profiled in society secretly am I right?

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This is useful to rat out those candidates who abscond after signing the contract or job hop after a year or two.

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yep, told you all already. Msia will be the next one. Intel also practice first in first out...so think twice before join.
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This is complete BS. Don't talk about things you have no idea about.
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This is complete BS. Don't talk about things you have no idea about.
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then proof me wrong, i dare you. If you cant provide any info, then you are the one have no idea about.

Intel have being trimming their headcount since last year till today.

1) HR
2) Engineer
3) Management
4) Marketing
and etc.

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then proof me wrong, i dare you. If you cant provide any info, then you are the one have no idea about.

Intel have being trimming their headcount since last year till today.

1) HR
2) Engineer
3) Management
4) Marketing
and etc.
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Normally I'm too lazy to respond to these and let the ignorant stay ignorant but will bite just this once.

1) Does Intel (and any other MNC) usually shed staff? Yes true - both due to economic reasons and business priorities/decisions.
2) Has Intel been trimming headcount? Yes also true, in bad times and also in good times. It's a usual business model. If anyone wants perfect job security and unchanging environment, MNCs are not for you.

BUT those are NOT what I call out as your bullshit. Receipt here:
QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 25 2023, 09:11 PM)
yep, told you all already. Msia will be the next one. Intel also practice first in first out...so think twice before join.
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Burden of proof is on you to justify your claims. And since I am too fkin free, I'll show you:

1) Intel Malaysia has grown to about ~12k employees in Malaysia. A few thousand hirings are in the pipeline as multiple factories are being built in Bayan Lepas and Kulim ETA sometime 2024.
2) In a general downsizing activity, typically Malaysia is the least affected. In the last couple rounds of limited general downsizing (as opposed to targeted at certain biz functions/groups), Malaysia were specifically EXCLUDED, why? Malaysia's burden rate (cost per employee) is 1/5 of that in USA and Israel. Even India's burden is creeping above Malaysia's and retention in India is shit. In laymen's term - Malaysian labor is cheap and many MNCs would retain employees here rather than in more expensive geos (called Mature Market). We can also discuss CHIPS act and the nuances, but it will not affect Malaysian headcount.
3) Intel practicing FIFO is a downright lie and misinformation. Majority of people downsized are those with a lot of years or nearing retirement. Most companies would retain their newer and thus cheaper employees on their payroll. There has never been a FIFO practice in Intel when it comes to downsizing.

Summary - Malaysia will be the next one is wrong. Intel practice first in first out is wrong.

The only other proof I can show you is my Intel badge, but I won't cause I don't care what you think. I'm not here to defend Intel because like any other company in the world, they want to make money and we want to get paid - no loyalty nor love. I can't stand though, people who spew misinformation from their coffee shop rumor. 

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Normally I'm too lazy to respond to these and let the ignorant stay ignorant but will bite just this once.

1) Does Intel (and any other MNC) usually shed staff? Yes true - both due to economic reasons and business priorities/decisions.
2) Has Intel been trimming headcount? Yes also true, in bad times and also in good times. It's a usual business model. If anyone wants perfect job security and unchanging environment, MNCs are not for you.

BUT those are NOT what I call out as your bullshit. Receipt here:

Burden of proof is on you to justify your claims. And since I am too fkin free, I'll show you:

1) Intel Malaysia has grown to about ~12k employees in Malaysia. A few thousand hirings are in the pipeline as multiple factories are being built in Bayan Lepas and Kulim ETA sometime 2024.
2) In a general downsizing activity, typically Malaysia is the least affected. In the last couple rounds of limited general downsizing (as opposed to targeted at certain biz functions/groups), Malaysia were specifically EXCLUDED, why? Malaysia's burden rate (cost per employee) is 1/5 of that in USA and Israel. Even India's burden is creeping above Malaysia's and retention in India is shit. In laymen's term - Malaysian labor is cheap and many MNCs would retain employees here rather than in more expensive geos (called Mature Market). We can also discuss CHIPS act and the nuances, but it will not affect Malaysian headcount.
3) Intel practicing FIFO is a downright lie and misinformation. Majority of people downsized are those with a lot of years or nearing retirement. Most companies would retain their newer and thus cheaper employees on their payroll. There has never been a FIFO practice in Intel when it comes to downsizing.

Summary - Malaysia will be the next one is wrong. Intel practice first in first out is wrong.

The only other proof I can show you is my Intel badge, but I won't cause I don't care what you think. I'm not here to defend Intel because like any other company in the world, they want to make money and we want to get paid - no loyalty nor love. I can't stand though, people who spew misinformation from their coffee shop rumor. 
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Untrue, MNC are product focused for long terms hence it have better job security and stable environment. When a MNC keeping on trimming headcount multiple times in 2-3 years its a red indicators that its business is facing issue.

1) Those factories are built with the cost of letting go other design and business function including aka Altera! And very very likely Intel business model in Msia will focus on Contract manufacturing rather than MNC! Intel quite flat with its recruitment after the last crazy hiring, those numbers will go down soon with ex-Altera spin-off!
3) FIFO is valid, a lot of new hired, exp hired, GT, CW being let go or push out within 1-2 years through the new OKR system which newly implemented. And yes other MNC like us will hire slow while retain both exp and young talent, we will preferred to adjust their project and keep them in our workforce. When we hire anyone fresh or exp, we will make sure we give them all the support they need to navigation and adopt to our culture but not judging them like asset for disposal when it didn't meet our early expectation. We worked in the industry long enough to know everyone around us and bad news travel fast, and we thank Intel for letting go so much of design talent which help Intel's competitors to growth!

You must have spending most of your time in Intel. Its time for you to come out to look around and learn more. MNC which in good shape are way way stable than contract manufacturing.

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post Dec 26 2023, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ May 9 2023, 06:44 PM)
So you wanna increase our unemployment?
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maybe coz intel opening new factory in israel so he want to support zionist
SUSrtk74
post Dec 26 2023, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Dec 26 2023, 05:54 PM)
Untrue, MNC are product focused for long terms hence it have better job security and stable environment. When a MNC keeping on trimming headcount multiple times in 2-3 years its a red indicators that its business is facing issue.

1) Those factories are built with the cost of letting go other design and business function including aka Altera! And very very likely Intel business model in Msia will focus on Contract manufacturing rather than MNC! Intel quite flat with its recruitment after the last crazy hiring, those numbers will go down soon with ex-Altera spin-off!
3) FIFO is valid, a lot of new hired, exp hired, GT, CW being let go or push out within 1-2 years through the new OKR system which newly implemented. And yes other MNC like us will hire slow while retain both exp and young talent, we will preferred to adjust their project and keep them in our workforce.  When we hire anyone fresh or exp, we will make sure we give them all the support they need to navigation and adopt to our culture but not judging them like asset for disposal when it didn't meet our early expectation. We worked in the industry long enough to know everyone around us and bad news travel fast, and we thank Intel for letting go so much of design talent which help Intel's competitors to growth!

You must have spending most of your time in Intel. Its time for you to come out to look around and learn more. MNC which in good shape are way way stable than contract manufacturing.
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