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post Apr 3 2023, 12:52 AM, updated 3y ago

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I been interested in getting an e-scooters I been checking reviews on youtube but there aren't many from Malaysia so it's hard for me to make a call if I should get it or not. I looked it up on shopee and there's one for RM800 with a brand called Adelmar EVO X. I wanna ask everyone on this forum if you have experience owning one, and how difficulty it is to maintain. What about the battery replacement and how often does it need parts replacement. I will be using this scooter for pretty much daily to go to work. So any advice are appreciated.
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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 12:52 AM)
I been interested in getting an e-scooters I been checking reviews on youtube but there aren't many from Malaysia so it's hard for me to make a call if I should get it or not. I looked it up on shopee and there's one for RM800 with a brand called Adelmar EVO X. I wanna ask everyone on this forum if you have experience owning one, and how difficulty it is to maintain. What about the battery replacement and how often does it need parts replacement. I will be using this scooter for pretty much daily to go to work. So any advice are appreciated.
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Go rent one for whole day first then u only know gam u or not. Got few friend got this few month later all not using it any more due to very leceh .
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post Apr 3 2023, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Apr 3 2023, 12:58 AM)
Go rent one for whole day first then u only know gam u or not. Got few friend got this few month later all not using it any more due  to very leceh .
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I rented one before with beam. Liked it but I guess it's different from actually owning one where you need to charge, having to worry about spare parts. Was wondering if it's easily worn out.. Especially the battery.
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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 01:02 AM)
I rented one before with beam. Liked it but I guess it's different from actually owning one where you need to charge, having to worry about spare parts. Was wondering if it's easily worn out.. Especially the battery.
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Maybe easier if you can provide link (can't find your scoot) because there is 2 type of e scot that I know of. The old ones use big chunk of battery and the other 'newer' ones use smaller flat battery pack.

My friend & I have the old tech one. The battery lasted for about 2 years before 100% dead and cannot hold a charge.

There isn't any other maintenance you need to do other than worrying about the battery. Chains , tyre etc etc wont go out during your ownership (unless punctured). Once the battery is out, you need to replace the battery ranging from price RM 650 - RM 1k depending on how big it is and what type of battery using (lead acid ? I think this is the common one few years ago and now we also got lithium).

But get this, the whole bike was worth RM 1.2k when bought, but when the battery died, the replacement for the same size battery is close to RM 900 xP

If you live in an Apartment / flat, need to consider your battery is heavy to always bring it back to your home or it will be stolen. Depending on what model bla bla bla the battery is heavy. Mine is 15-20kg. I mean not heavy for a dude, but if live in flat, need to climb stairs or wait for lift and doing it everyday, I still think it is a chore.

TLDR: the most worrying part is the battery. Everything else is ok. Just consider every 2 years (at most), you will need to buy a new battery which is close to the value of your entire bike.
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post Apr 3 2023, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Apr 3 2023, 01:32 AM)
Maybe easier if you can provide link (can't find your scoot) because there is 2 type of e scot that I know of. The old ones use big chunk of battery and the other 'newer' ones use smaller flat battery pack.

My friend & I have the old tech one. The battery lasted for about 2 years before 100% dead and cannot hold a charge.

There isn't any other maintenance you need to do other than worrying about the battery. Chains , tyre etc etc wont go out during your ownership (unless punctured). Once the battery is out, you need to replace the battery ranging from price RM 650 - RM 1k depending on how big it is and what type of battery using (lead acid ? I think this is the common one few years ago and now we also got lithium).

But get this, the whole bike was worth RM 1.2k when bought, but when the battery died, the replacement for the same size battery is close to RM 900 xP

If you live in an Apartment / flat, need to consider your battery is heavy to always bring it back to your home or it will be stolen. Depending on what model bla bla bla the battery is heavy. Mine is 15-20kg. I mean not heavy for a dude, but if live in flat, need to climb stairs or wait for lift and doing it everyday, I still think it is a chore.

TLDR: the most worrying part is the battery. Everything else is ok. Just consider every 2 years (at most), you will need to buy a new battery which is close to the value of your entire bike.
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https://shopee.com.my/product/826077906/219...cX5VyRVaDJZ9E4X

That's the link.
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post Apr 3 2023, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(pergilahsayang @ Apr 3 2023, 01:32 AM)
Maybe easier if you can provide link (can't find your scoot) because there is 2 type of e scot that I know of. The old ones use big chunk of battery and the other 'newer' ones use smaller flat battery pack.

My friend & I have the old tech one. The battery lasted for about 2 years before 100% dead and cannot hold a charge.

There isn't any other maintenance you need to do other than worrying about the battery. Chains , tyre etc etc wont go out during your ownership (unless punctured). Once the battery is out, you need to replace the battery ranging from price RM 650 - RM 1k depending on how big it is and what type of battery using (lead acid ? I think this is the common one few years ago and now we also got lithium).

But get this, the whole bike was worth RM 1.2k when bought, but when the battery died, the replacement for the same size battery is close to RM 900 xP

If you live in an Apartment / flat, need to consider your battery is heavy to always bring it back to your home or it will be stolen. Depending on what model bla bla bla the battery is heavy. Mine is 15-20kg. I mean not heavy for a dude, but if live in flat, need to climb stairs or wait for lift and doing it everyday, I still think it is a chore.

TLDR: the most worrying part is the battery. Everything else is ok. Just consider every 2 years (at most), you will need to buy a new battery which is close to the value of your entire bike.
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This is the second one that I find interesting.
https://shopee.com.my/product/90013722/1318...bfKPZoDM97E3aBy
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post Apr 3 2023, 01:53 AM

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worth it is subjective , depending what u intend to do with it. if for last mile commute is efficient especially those sub 20kg. for hobby you may want to look at suspensions, ease of charge,lighting, waterproof, price. i use to own zero9 and 10. maintenance is fairly simple and there are utube tutorials. aside to electronics which may require longer tutorial hours. otherwise is like changing a spare tyre on a car. all you need is a toolbox.
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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 12:52 AM)
I been interested in getting an e-scooters I been checking reviews on youtube but there aren't many from Malaysia so it's hard for me to make a call if I should get it or not. I looked it up on shopee and there's one for RM800 with a brand called Adelmar EVO X. I wanna ask everyone on this forum if you have experience owning one, and how difficulty it is to maintain. What about the battery replacement and how often does it need parts replacement. I will be using this scooter for pretty much daily to go to work. So any advice are appreciated.
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does it really have to be electric scooters? would you consider having an electric unicycle (euc)? i prefer the euc because my hands are free to hold my bags or briefcase or phone or whatever. with a scooter you'll need both hands for stability. also euc have bigger tires so it will much safer on the road when hitting potholes or missing tiles.

i ride euc to the ERL station near my home. the train will take me to kl sentral and from there i ride my euc again to my office. so far very smooth sailing and this setup works perfect for me. i am using a very old euc however (bought in november 2015 for rm 3k) and the 30km battery is now only serving me 6km per charge. i'm thinking of changing the battery coz i found it on shopee cost rm 500 ish. my model is the ancient Ninebot One E+. with this setup i save RM 16 per day for overnight parking at the ERL station car park. i work midnight shift.

i have also encountered another guy using an euc at the ERL albeit a much newer and advanced model.

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post Apr 3 2023, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 01:51 AM)
This is the second one that I find interesting.
https://shopee.com.my/product/90013722/1318...bfKPZoDM97E3aBy
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don't take the stated range at face value. it is typically much less.

unfortunately models like this, you won't find much info online about its functionality and reliability. from the looks, it is so uncannily similar to Xiaomi models, except the tires. battery lifetime is unknown from this ad. if you are planning to park it inside your house, charging won't be an issue, though. simply put it next to the power socket. certain Xiaomi model has magnetic connector, so it is more convenient to connect.



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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 01:51 AM)
This is the second one that I find interesting.
https://shopee.com.my/product/90013722/1318...bfKPZoDM97E3aBy
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Ah, its one of these type. No experience with these type one, but if I had to complain, wah, this is standing type so simple design also price close to RM 800. Might as well go for the e-bike that look like a bike and can sit. You may make an argument that e-bike is illegal on the road and heavy though and this small e-scooter lighter and compact can go anywhere.

But same problem I think, battery will be your main concern. Those flat shaped battery price ranging from Rm 450 - Rm 650 depending capacity size.

If this is a hobby kind of purpose, I won't think about it as much. However, you want to use it as a daily commute, not sure how long this can stand.

Anyway, how far (KM) is your daily commute? Those link you share had fairly small battery (looking at Ah figure). ranging from 6-7.8 Ah, and stated distance is about 30KM, but expect it to be way less than that. But at the same time, these kinds of scoot does not seem to have a bigger size battery because of design limitation. However, while looking for the battery replacement seller, it does seem like there is bigger battery replacement of the same type available up to 10 Ah, so I am "assuming" there should be a scooter like this that have 10Ah capacity? Well, you have to look more into that.
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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 12:52 AM)
I been interested in getting an e-scooters I been checking reviews on youtube but there aren't many from Malaysia so it's hard for me to make a call if I should get it or not. I looked it up on shopee and there's one for RM800 with a brand called Adelmar EVO X. I wanna ask everyone on this forum if you have experience owning one, and how difficulty it is to maintain. What about the battery replacement and how often does it need parts replacement. I will be using this scooter for pretty much daily to go to work. So any advice are appreciated.
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no, ia akan meletup bila charge..

byk case telah berlaku

Better be careful than sorry

If die-die still wanna buy

Check 'Sirim logo'

No logo means prone to explode anytime...

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post Apr 3 2023, 09:42 AM

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dayum, baru mau angkat a new e-scoot

2 yrs lifespan is freaking short

no wonder I also never see my neighbor ride their e-scoot
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post Apr 3 2023, 09:47 AM

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If buy, look for branded ones, many cases of battery overheat and explode during charging as no overheat/overcharge protection circuitry.

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I bought a mi scoot when working at Turkey for the last mile commute and I'm still using it whenever I go for my fix 'teh ice.

- get one that is lightest.
- get one with full sus if u gonna ride on tarmac.
- get one with the biggest wheel.

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Been using it at least 5 year and above.
No overheat issue and it didn't kaboom on me.
Range drop from 20+km to 10+.
Torque drop n I suspect some cell is dead.
Changing the whole battery pack is around 3-4 hundred.


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post Apr 3 2023, 10:12 AM

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After news reporting electric scooter n bicycle exploded while charging n burned the house down n killed the occupants, i takut takut.
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You might wanna consider buying one from an actual store instead of online for future maintenance / spareparts. I recall theres one in PJ called Starwheels. You can google them.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 3 2023, 10:12 AM)
After news reporting electric scooter n bicycle exploded while charging n burned the house down n killed the occupants, i takut takut.
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Brand or non-brand, charge it outdoors.

Put some floor tile around and make a wall. Incase fire, floor tile can act as firewall.
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i also looking for one, but battery is my main concern
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Apr 3 2023, 10:08 AM)
I bought a mi scoot when working at Turkey for the last mile commute and I'm still using it whenever I go for my fix 'teh ice.

- get one that is lightest.
- get one with full sus if u gonna ride on tarmac.
- get one with the biggest wheel.

Edit.
Been using it at least 5 year and above.
No overheat issue and it didn't kaboom on me.
Range drop from 20+km to 10+.
Torque drop n I suspect some cell is dead.
Changing the whole battery pack is around 3-4 hundred.
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May I know which model of Mi is this?

I have been considering one for my daily commute to MRT station (tarmac road), instead of parking my car in open sun. Distance is average 2km one way.
My main criteria is Light and hill incline, that lead me to the Mi Scooter 3. (13.2kg /16% climb)

The essential is 12kg/10% climb. Would it really be diiferent to 16%?

Does these models have full suspension as you mentioned?


Just today I saw a passenger carrying a folded e-scooter on MRT, i am convinced it wont be too obstructive and looking forward to get one.
Anyone knows where i can get the trolley wheels installed on the front bar upright bar?
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question what cells are used, after doing research Samsung/LG,panasonic cells is better durability. BMS plays an important role too.
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As long as you're using a charger with overcharge protection, explosive battery failure shouldn't be an issue. There are also signs of failure that you can look out for in the battery. If it starts to look bloated, just stop using it and replace immediately. When the battery gets bloated, it won't hold a charge properly anyway.

Someone mentioned above, but try to get a scooter with the biggest wheels you can get. Malaysian roads are pretty bad and bigger wheels means you won't get flipped over so easily.

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800 bucks is an experience ..... they should come with warranty no?

Idk about you my area all security guards run around the place with e-scooter and it doesn't seem like giving them any problem.
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Apr 3 2023, 11:26 AM)
As long as you're using a charger with overcharge protection, explosive battery failure shouldn't be an issue. There are also signs of failure that you can look out for in the battery. If it starts to look bloated, just stop using it and replace immediately. When the battery gets bloated, it won't hold a charge properly anyway.

Someone mentioned above, but try to get a scooter with the biggest wheels you can get. Malaysian roads are pretty bad and bigger wheels means you won't get flipped over so easily.
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i agree bigger wheels and with suspension is a bigger bonus. ability to fold up and stand nicely is good too , if you have limited space to store.
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QUOTE(dudester @ Apr 3 2023, 11:21 AM)
May I know which model of Mi is this?

I have been considering one for my daily commute to MRT station (tarmac road), instead of parking my car in open sun. Distance is average 2km one way.
My main criteria is Light and hill incline, that lead me to the Mi Scooter 3. (13.2kg /16% climb)

The essential is 12kg/10% climb. Would it really be diiferent to 16%?

Does these models have full suspension as you mentioned?
Just today I saw a passenger carrying a folded e-scooter on MRT, i am convinced it wont  be too obstructive and looking forward to get one.
Anyone knows where i can get the trolley wheels installed on the front bar upright bar?
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I think mine are the mi scooter gen 1 or 2.

Get the mi 3, climb inclination drop tremendously when the batt is going down.

My current usage does have quite steep climb and it wont be able to go up if the batt is less than 50%.

The model you mention does not have suspension at all laugh.gif - same like mine.

One more thing I forgot the mention is to get a solid tire, bumpier and harder but wont run flat.
Changing the tube by yourself is quite challenging. Change too many tube that I give up and change to a solid tire.

Trolley wheel ? Any link or pic ?
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I have a Segway es4 version but after 3 years battery died and can’t charge up. I can’t find anyone to fix it as well. But when it was workign it was cool. I enjoyed travelling with it to nearby by shops to bungkus or buy bread. But then pdrm said these scooters are illegal for road use so I stop using it and then the battery died and can’t charge up.
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QUOTE(sparketh @ Apr 3 2023, 12:12 PM)
I have a Segway es4 version but after 3 years battery died and can’t charge up. I can’t find anyone to fix it as well. But when it was workign it was cool.  I enjoyed travelling with it to nearby by shops to bungkus or buy bread.  But then pdrm said these scooters are illegal for road use so I stop using it and then the battery died and can’t charge up.
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Try them.
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So all this still legal on the road?
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Apr 3 2023, 12:08 PM)
I think mine are the mi scooter gen 1 or 2.

Get the mi 3, climb inclination drop tremendously when the batt is going down.

My current usage does have quite steep climb and it wont be able to go up if the batt is less than 50%.

The model you mention does not have suspension at all  laugh.gif - same like mine.

One more thing I forgot the mention is to get a solid tire, bumpier and harder but wont run flat.
Changing the tube by yourself is quite challenging. Change too many tube that I give up and change to a solid tire.

Trolley wheel ? Any link or pic ?
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Mi 3 it is I guess. I think the ones with suspension must be heavy and cost more. More powerful. Unless the new mi4.... expensive though.


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QUOTE(dudester @ Apr 3 2023, 02:29 PM)
Mi 3 it is I guess. I think the ones with suspension must be heavy and cost more. More powerful. Unless the new mi4.... expensive though.
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Didnt know such thing existed.

Good to be able to stand the scoot upright with it.

Installation should be very straight forward, clamp and tighten with 2 screws.

Moving the scoot folded is better with the existing wheel, much bigger.
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parking. also finding for one
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Apr 3 2023, 02:52 PM)
Didnt know such thing existed.

Good to be able to stand the scoot upright with it.

Installation should be very straight forward, clamp and tighten with 2 screws.

Moving the scoot folded is better with the existing wheel, much bigger.
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yes good for commute in train, does not take up space.
Can DIY but if people sell easy. so far i only see Philippines seller.
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QUOTE(bobiq @ Apr 3 2023, 10:35 AM)
You might wanna consider buying one from an actual store instead of online for future maintenance / spareparts. I recall theres one in PJ called Starwheels. You can google them.
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Yeah I checked their webpage and I find it very interesting... RM1099 isn't so bad either but they didn't show full specs of the product, I whatsapp the seller but he hasn't reply yet. My main concerns are these things below:

Maximum weight load.
Battery type.
Battery capacity
The cost of battery replacement.
Does it have overcharge protection.

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I've bought the Adelmar scooter last year, I use it for my daily commute to MRT station and I can even lock it using its app. totally transformed the way I travel short distance thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(EveTape @ Apr 3 2023, 10:30 PM)
I've bought the Adelmar scooter last year, I use it for my daily commute to MRT station and I can even lock it using its app. totally transformed the way I travel short distance  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Have you tried replacing the battery?
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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 10:49 PM)
Have you tried replacing the battery?
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Nope but before I buy I asked their shop they said any problem can contact them and their shop looks like reputable. I walked in and tested in their shop before I buy.
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QUOTE(EveTape @ Apr 3 2023, 11:12 PM)
Nope but before I buy I asked their shop they said any problem can contact them and their shop looks like reputable. I walked in and tested in their shop before I buy.
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Can you please pm me the address?
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QUOTE(lIAmLegendl @ Apr 3 2023, 11:15 PM)
Can you please pm me the address?
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I got 3 e-scoot. Ninebot kaput already.

Mijia Xiaomi is super smooth but only 25km/ht iinm and short distance about 15km only.

My Zero 8 bought new rm2.4k I think 3-4 years already still going strong. 45km.with speed 35km/hr.. got nice suspension too. Thinking of selling mur2 below rm1k.. barely use it now.
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Apr 3 2023, 11:26 AM)
As long as you're using a charger with overcharge protection, explosive battery failure shouldn't be an issue. There are also signs of failure that you can look out for in the battery. If it starts to look bloated, just stop using it and replace immediately. When the battery gets bloated, it won't hold a charge properly anyway.

Someone mentioned above, but try to get a scooter with the biggest wheels you can get. Malaysian roads are pretty bad and bigger wheels means you won't get flipped over so easily.
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QUOTE(boyz @ Apr 3 2023, 12:01 PM)
i agree bigger wheels and with suspension is a bigger bonus. ability to fold up and stand nicely is good too , if you have limited space to store.
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If like this Inokim OXO how?
Looks hhnngghh...
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Apr 4 2023, 04:43 PM)
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If like this Inokim OXO how?
Looks hhnngghh...
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65kmh, 33kg is a different category liao
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Apr 4 2023, 04:35 PM)
I got 3 e-scoot. Ninebot kaput already.

Mijia Xiaomi is super smooth but only 25km/ht iinm and short distance about 15km only.

My Zero 8 bought new rm2.4k I think 3-4 years already still going strong. 45km.with speed 35km/hr.. got nice suspension too. Thinking of selling mur2 below rm1k.. barely use it now.
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Apr 4 2023, 07:18 PM)
65kmh, 33kg is a different category liao
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Anyone who's interested in selling their used escooter for under RM1K we can COD tonight right now. I'm in KL.

I AM NOT INTERESTED IN THESE BRANDS BELOW
1. XIaomi (Heard it got so many issues)
2. Ninebot (Friend owns it and it breaks easily)

It must have 120KG maximum load at least. Please provide infos such as the battery type, how much does it cost to replace the battery, how long it can last for daily usage (I will be using it for work)
jcheong
post Apr 5 2023, 01:43 PM

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Wait for the Honda ones to come. They use Bosch motors and have actual spare parts. To be honest, not worth it if saving money is the concern.

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